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Penny Ford - I lose control (110,932) by Lambi from USA Great tidbit. "Cheesy little uptempo ditty that I hated so much" is rather true. It sounds like a theme song for a corny sitcom. It's like they tried to capture the soulful elements of the New Jack Swing era but failed halfway, and it turned a little white bread. "Another white girl trying to sing black" would have been justified. It's the same mold as Here We Go Round Again, but HWGRA is slightly better. I totally see why she scrapped the song and didn't want it to see the light of day. Mariah is the queen of roasting cheesy songs. "Corny like Fritos" probably annihilated Nick during the marriage. (Thursday 4 September 2025; 03:49) this is a reply to message 110,918

Penny Ford - I lose control (110,918) by Bill from the UK I Lose Control is amazing and a long time ago an "AI" edit was floating, but it got embargoed to the point that people thought it was actually Mariah's demo, as it included high notes and ad libs not in the Penny version. It sounded incredible and every day I curse myself for not downloading a copy when I had the chance. It was originally intended as Mariah's launch single, according to rumours. Everyone loved it but Mariah couldn't stand it, saying it was "stupid" and a "cheesy little uptempo ditty that I hated so much". This is why I think she never worked with NMW again, as she also didn't enjoy the "I Don't Wanna Cry" experience either, saying she wouldn't have titled the song that and that it went in a different direction to what she envisaged (more "Careless Whisper" vibe originally). In the liner notes for the debut album, she thanks her then-manager Don Ienner "for not making me 'lose control'". Apparently he was the only one who had her back around not including the song on the album at all, let alone it being the lead single, and advocated with Mariah for "Vision of Love" instead. Walden had reached out to Carey saying he still had the master tape for if she wanted to include it on The Rarities, but she never got back to him. I wonder how differently things would have panned out? A one hit wonder? A no hit wonder? The mind boggles. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 17:52)

SZA (110,931) by Giovanni from USA There are rumors that Mariah did a collaboration with SZA and that she likes the song. I don't listen to SZA but I know she's popular and likes Mariah. (Thursday 4 September 2025; 02:28)

Kai Cenat interview (110,930) by Giovanni from USA Mariah looked so fresh, beautiful and relaxed. Her outfit was on point too. I can't believe this woman is 56, she looks so much younger. (Thursday 4 September 2025; 02:26)

Kai Cenat's stream (110,929) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter This is the most relaxed I've seen her in a while. I'm sure she was nervous because this isn't a platform she had experimented with before and they are all a younger generation but she fit right in and looked like she had fun although I was dying at the spelling me because they were cracking me up. (Thursday 4 September 2025; 02:26) this is a reply to message 110,927

Kai Cenat's stream (110,927) by Edward from USA I how informal and real this interview is. Mariah is cooped up on that low chair not giving two f***s about it. She's alert, fun and interested. Very relatable. It's obvious Gamma was taking advantage of those 13.5M subscribers, who wouldn't? A well-deserved A+ for Mariah. (Thursday 4 September 2025; 00:21)

Kai Cenat's stream (110,928) by Lambi from USA We have to acknowledge Joachim being correct. He said, "After this period with our beloved Mariah be almost a living dead, she is too fatigued to even move around, expect a period from some time from now when she will be exuberant again." I am so elated to find out Mariah didn't fully lose that personality. I'd say she is still a tiny bit stiff, but the spark is there and definitely held her own in a room of teenage boys full of energy. Her hosting a spelling bee and them not getting a single word right is so random and will forever send me. LMAO. (Thursday 4 September 2025; 00:45) this is a reply to message 110,906

Kai Cenat's stream (110,906) by Lighty from China Might be the the most vibrant Mariah I've seen in a very long while. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 12:57)

Kai Cenat's stream (110,927) by Edward from USA I how informal and real this interview is. Mariah is cooped up on that low chair not giving two f***s about it. She's alert, fun and interested. Very relatable. It's obvious Gamma was taking advantage of those 13.5M subscribers, who wouldn't? A well-deserved A+ for Mariah. (Thursday 4 September 2025; 00:21) this is a reply to message 110,906

Kai Cenat's stream (110,906) by Lighty from China Might be the the most vibrant Mariah I've seen in a very long while. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 12:57)

Random thought | Hunt for palatable ballads (110,926) by Lighty from China Let's not forget some of the biggest hits of recents years from the likes of Alex Warren, Morgan Wallen, Benson Boone, Teddy Swims, to name just a few, are all ballads. (Thursday 4 September 2025; 00:08) this is a reply to message 110,917

Random thought | Hunt for palatable ballads (110,917) by BFF from United States I think certain niche genres still leave room for ballads, but they are just not mainstream any more. I usually hear material like that on the local alternative and adult contemporary stations but not the pop, R&B or hip-hop stations. Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars doing "Die With a Smile" was a bit of an outlier - it went to #1 and has more a ballad/soft rock feel than 90 percent of what becomes popular on the radio. Leon Bridges dropped a single called "Hold On" that has an almost Otis Redding/Bill Withers feel to it, but he has always been very non-mainstream artist. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 15:55)

Here for it all/The Era Of Mi (110,925) by Lambi from USA I love the title The Era Of Mi, it's another TEOM acronym like Bobby A said. And a clever way to up cycle Emancipation, just like what she did with E=MC2. Anything shorter and simplified is rather slick. I think the Swifties will come for us though. The word "era" is very synonymous to Taylor, so that's why Mimi is just resorting to using it as an Instagram caption moment, or just a cute catchphrase moment. Not an album title. And I also think Mariah just genuinely loves the song Here For It All. It describes where she's at in life so it's very fitting to make that the theme of the whole moment. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 23:07) this is a reply to message 110,900

Here for it all/The Era Of Mi (110,900) by Giovanni from USA Do y'all think Mariah should have named her album "The Era Of Mi"? It's a very strong album title. Also I wonder what she is doing in the studio? Remixes? (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 02:10)

David Guetta and will.i.am (110,924) by Tevin from USA I agree Dove. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 19:55) this is a reply to message 110,913

David Guetta and will.i.am (110,913) by Dove from United States I don't know if these people's sound is still considered "cool" but I always enjoyed their songs when they came on. I wouldn't want an entire Mariah album like this but one song wouldn't hurt. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 14:41)

Superbowl Mariah (110,923) by jaker20 from US I think Mariah would do great in it. Superbowl is about presentation, and the sets, and the overall show. Mariah's sets in Brazil looked amazing and they compliment her music so well, and as mentioned, she has so many classics. She has so many hits, creative directors can make a lot of magic with them. Mariah won't be hanging upside down from the ceiling or riding some aerial rig animal ride that many artists are doing now, which apparently is becoming associated with Superbowl. No, no. I find that to be just so silly. How about her bringing it to church. I can imagine her in this big set with a full giant choir doing something like Fly Like a Bird, and then followed by I Want To Know What Love Is, as she walks into the middle of the arena which shows a giant butterfly, just like in the video, and followed by a set of dramatic high tech drones as she walks into the center of it. Amazing. I've seen an artist on YouTube from China doing this and it looks amazing, and all she's doing is walk and these drones were following her as she sings this ballad. Though I admit she lips better than Mariah. But audiences will be wrapped up with her classic hits and the beauty of the presentation and people won't care. There are so many creative ways for it to be big without it being a circus, and still true to her music. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 19:35) this is a reply to message 110,888

Superbowl Mariah (110,888) by Terna from Nigeria I know for a fact she can absolutely crush a superbowl performance. This is a woman that has hits for days (every single soul remembers and would love to sing along to), that can make a playlist hours of non stop bops, without repeating a song twice and she doesn't even need to sing the whole songs. And then there's the features with several artists that I know for a fact would honor her invitation. Don't underestimate her now? The Superbowl performance is for like maybe 15 minutes maximum, and Mariah has more than enough hits both past and present to cover that. Think of it for a second, all her massive hits and then suddenly, she announces "I just gotta bring Christmas back one more time". Haha. And then AIWFCIY closes with an absolutely explosive fest of cheer and confetti. (Monday 1 September 2025; 23:44)

My all (110,922) by jaker20 from US My All is truly that bish. It is a certified classic. She really went into that studio and sang it like she really meant every word. It sounds even better on vinyl. The world should thank Derek Jeter for inspiring her to make that masterpiece. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 19:30) this is a reply to message 110,902

My all (110,902) by Giovanni from USA One of Mariah's best songs and hits. I listened to today and it sounds so good when you haven't heard it in a while. I also watched some of her live performances and I so wish she still had her Butterfly voice. Butterfly era Mariah was amazing. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 03:34)

Here for it all/The Era Of Mi (110,921) by Edward from USA I agree, "Here For It All" really works as a title, especially considering everything Mariah's been through since "MIAM". It feels strong, honest, and like she's embracing her whole journey. "The Era of Mi" sounds more like a flashy, attention-grabbing name, and without much depth behind it, it just wouldn't hit the same. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 19:28) this is a reply to message 110,915

Here for it all/The Era Of Mi (110,915) by MusicfanJ from Germany No, the title "Here for it all" is perfect. The other title sounds selfish mi/me. Even if it's just a word for Mimi, I don't know. But I really think the chosen abum title is a good one. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 15:08)

LA Reid (110,920) by Bobby A from United States Right. I hope L.A. joins MC on at least one U.S. promo TV event to talk about how he was involved in the making of the album. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 19:22) this is a reply to message 110,912

LA Reid (110,912) by T from USA Since LA Reid is executive producing the new album Here For It All, I wonder why he didn't call in his former clients like Usher, Pink [sic] or Andre 3000 to lend some features that could've maybe got people excited. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 14:30)

Kai Cenat's stream (110,919) by Bobby A from United States Yes. I loved this interview. The way MC pulled the desk chair towards Kai showed that she was really comfortable being in his company. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 19:18) this is a reply to message 110,909

Kai Cenat's stream (110,909) by Jamie from UK Wow yes, she's really comfortable and confident again. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 13:08)

Penny Ford - I lose control (110,918) by Bill from the UK I Lose Control is amazing and a long time ago an "AI" edit was floating, but it got embargoed to the point that people thought it was actually Mariah's demo, as it included high notes and ad libs not in the Penny version. It sounded incredible and every day I curse myself for not downloading a copy when I had the chance. It was originally intended as Mariah's launch single, according to rumours. Everyone loved it but Mariah couldn't stand it, saying it was "stupid" and a "cheesy little uptempo ditty that I hated so much". This is why I think she never worked with NMW again, as she also didn't enjoy the "I Don't Wanna Cry" experience either, saying she wouldn't have titled the song that and that it went in a different direction to what she envisaged (more "Careless Whisper" vibe originally). In the liner notes for the debut album, she thanks her then-manager Don Ienner "for not making me 'lose control'". Apparently he was the only one who had her back around not including the song on the album at all, let alone it being the lead single, and advocated with Mariah for "Vision of Love" instead. Walden had reached out to Carey saying he still had the master tape for if she wanted to include it on The Rarities, but she never got back to him. I wonder how differently things would have panned out? A one hit wonder? A no hit wonder? The mind boggles. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 17:52) this is a reply to message 110,907

Penny Ford - I lose control (110,907) by Lighty from China This song was intended for Mariah's debut album but got scrapped for unknown reasons. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 13:02)

Random thought | Hunt for palatable ballads (110,917) by BFF from United States I think certain niche genres still leave room for ballads, but they are just not mainstream any more. I usually hear material like that on the local alternative and adult contemporary stations but not the pop, R&B or hip-hop stations. Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars doing "Die With a Smile" was a bit of an outlier - it went to #1 and has more a ballad/soft rock feel than 90 percent of what becomes popular on the radio. Leon Bridges dropped a single called "Hold On" that has an almost Otis Redding/Bill Withers feel to it, but he has always been very non-mainstream artist. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 15:55) this is a reply to message 110,904

Random thought | Hunt for palatable ballads (110,904) by Lambi from USA Honestly there actually is an appetite for that sound. I've traveled to so many places, in New Zealand, there were ridiculous amount of amazing ballads on the radio. I was so shocked to hear how good their songwriting is. It felt like they stayed in the 90's and early 2000's. I feel like the U.S. still has the talent, but for whatever reason, actual quality songs aren't making it to mainstream radio. Maybe the industry has become so oversaturated that real talent is getting harder to recognize. The last time I was truly ever "satisfied" vocally with a ballad was Bruno Mar's Versace On The Floor and Chris Stapleton's Tennessee Whiskey. Those Sia, Adele Or Beyoncé ballads didn't even hit the spot for me, fell a little short. Anyway from my travels, here are songs that are solid melodically and productions Mariah can totally experiment with: • Don't Let Go - Spawnbreezie • Mirror - Madison Ryan Ward • Fly - Common Kings Let me know if you guys have any favorite local artist that most will never hear about (while we drag the longest 25 days of our lives). There are many hidden gems and I know the lambily got great taste (duh), so please share them. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 06:37)

My all (110,916) by MusicfanJ from Germany Absolutely. "My all" is one of her best. The song and video, pure art. Her live versions are fantastic, I love them all. The one from the Pavarotti benefit concert, I can't get over it. Lol. I watch it over and over again. The beginning with the high note, the "shocked" audience, the look like a goddess, the smile and the house mix outro. I miss the Butterfly voice too. It wasn't so powerful like from "Music Box" or "Daydream" but still outstanding. The more vulnerable tone was touching my heart. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 15:20) this is a reply to message 110,902

My all (110,902) by Giovanni from USA One of Mariah's best songs and hits. I listened to today and it sounds so good when you haven't heard it in a while. I also watched some of her live performances and I so wish she still had her Butterfly voice. Butterfly era Mariah was amazing. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 03:34)

Here for it all/The Era Of Mi (110,915) by MusicfanJ from Germany No, the title "Here for it all" is perfect. The other title sounds selfish mi/me. Even if it's just a word for Mimi, I don't know. But I really think the chosen abum title is a good one. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 15:08) this is a reply to message 110,900

Here for it all/The Era Of Mi (110,900) by Giovanni from USA Do y'all think Mariah should have named her album "The Era Of Mi"? It's a very strong album title. Also I wonder what she is doing in the studio? Remixes? (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 02:10)

Christmas music videos (110,914) by Dove from United States I like the idea someone had a few days ago of making a new Christmas video (or two) each year until all the songs have music videos. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 15:06)

David Guetta and will.i.am (110,913) by Dove from United States I don't know if these people's sound is still considered "cool" but I always enjoyed their songs when they came on. I wouldn't want an entire Mariah album like this but one song wouldn't hurt. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 14:41)

LA Reid (110,912) by T from USA Since LA Reid is executive producing the new album Here For It All, I wonder why he didn't call in his former clients like Usher, Pink [sic] or Andre 3000 to lend some features that could've maybe got people excited. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 14:30)

Random thought (110,911) by T from USA I view Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis like I view David Foster, which is replacement Walter's. I would rate her fourth biggest hitmaker co-producer to be the short lived C+C Music Factory. Only because we could imagine if David Cole wouldn't have died so young the hits she would've made with them would've blown the world. David Morales has to be on the list of greatest collaborators with MC as well. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 14:27) this is a reply to message 110,901

Random thought (110,901) by Bobby A from United States Could Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis be seen as number 4? The two producers brought out some gorgeous melodies from MC on Glitter, Charmbracelet, and Rainbow. The dynamic duo would have been producers on TEOM if they didn't have prior commitments. They sent Big Jim Wright as their replacement. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 03:27)

Kai Cenat's stream (110,910) by Dove from United States I love her here. She's so cute. My inner child connects with her inner child. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 13:52) this is a reply to message 110,906

Kai Cenat's stream (110,906) by Lighty from China Might be the the most vibrant Mariah I've seen in a very long while. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 12:57)

Kai Cenat's stream (110,909) by Jamie from UK Wow yes, she's really comfortable and confident again. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 13:08) this is a reply to message 110,906

Kai Cenat's stream (110,906) by Lighty from China Might be the the most vibrant Mariah I've seen in a very long while. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 12:57)

Penny Ford - I lose control (110,908) by Jamie from UK Yep new that. (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 13:06) this is a reply to message 110,905

Penny Ford - I lose control (110,905) by Billy from Greece How many of you are aware that Mariah and Narada Michael Walden are the writers of this? (Wednesday 3 September 2025; 12:30)

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