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The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,109) by Jamie from UK I'm under no illusion over 30 years has past, even Mariah who refuses to acknowledge time (for some weird reason) will know that over 30 years has past. Let me put it this way, if Mariah was to hold her public image in some kind of way that resembles the early days I believe she would have more respect now and be more popular at this point. I'm not saying she should be skipping through fields in a plaid shirt and denim shorts (however cool that was) she's not a young girl anymore. But how I do feel she should be carrying herself is just like when she sang "With you I'm born again" in 2005. There she was a grown woman but with grace, she was articulate and professional. And way more stage presence that she has today. None of us are saying to go back 30 years, would be great if we could but what I and many others are saying is when she tries too much and cheapens herself it doesn't work. Mariah at this point in her career should be like that 2005 stage performance, balanced, elegant, professional, coherent and drawing the audience in. We all love Mariah and only want the best for her and know she's capable of so much more without the whole diva pretense. Ps. I never said she wasn't still a nice person. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 10:21) this is a reply to message 110,101

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,101) by Zachariah from Croatia Hm, let's put it down like this; go back 30 years (this is for lambs who are following Mariah from day one) and try to remember yourself back then. Done? Ok. Now see yourself today. Somehow I doubt that you all are the same person. Because I am not. I was gullible, shy, very introverted, afraid to say something and just followed others. Today, I am unrecognizable. She is still a nice person and our Mariah - who gets her, gets her. Who doesn't, doesn't. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 00:19)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,108) by Jamie from UK I always remember my Nana being pleased when I finally dropped being a Madonna fan in 1993 for Mariah as she didn't approve of Madonna and her dressing so inappropriately. At the time I remember thinking Mariah would never ever go that way as like you said she had such grace and a natural wholesome appeal that drew people in. Never would I imagine she would be in a convertible car in a sawn off wedding dress and garter acting provocatively in a music video. The OG's were so so lucky to have experienced that, it was life changing and such a force of nature that was unparalleled. It was completely organic and authentic. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 09:57) this is a reply to message 110,096

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,096) by Bill from the UK Jamie thank you for putting so eloquently my exact thoughts. I think only the OG fans can relate to what you say, because we were there living those great moments live at the time. I don't think people get just how special she was and how she drew so many people to her by being an incredible talent, humble, and her good fortune of being naturally photogenic. Talk about hitting a jackpot. But then to see it descend year by year is so heartbreaking. Not just the voice, but the grace, the elegance, the class, the poise... sigh. Right now you're gone, you just vanished away. But I'll never leave you behind. No, I'll never forget you. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 17:33)

When Christmas comes (110,107) by Giovanni from USA I know we're far from Christmas but when I'm asked what is my favorite Mariah Carey song I wanna say "Someday" or "Love takes time" but call me crazy it has to be "When Christmas comes". And it doesn't have to be Christmas for you to play this song. Mariah really out did herself with this one. The music, the lyrics, her voice. If she had made it into a love song it would have likely been a hit. The Emancipation Of Mimi Mariah is singing in that song. I mean she is really showing off that 5 octave range and belting so strong. I so wish Mariah never got into champagne because I feel it damaged her voice tremendously and holds her back vocally. I know she has vocal nodules but she would sound better if she stayed away from the drinking. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 05:36)

Sugar Sweet (110,106) by Giovanni from USA Such a vibe and super catchy. The song sounds like what's current right now. I can hear Ariana or Ciara singing this song. My only complain is that I wish it was a solo. When it comes to Mariah I really don't want or need to hear anybody else. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 05:19)

Andrew (110,105) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Thank you Shezz you are always so kind and you are right about Bobby A, he is always too nice to really say what really went down back then. It was outrageous and unacceptable. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 03:19) this is a reply to message 110,099

Andrew (110,099) by Shezz from Pk Agreed Mimi L. His ridiculous outbursts at you are my last memories of him. Whoever still has a soft spot or sympathy for him should maintain a direct private relationship with him. Bobby A. is downplaying how rude he was to him. And then of course the daily nonstop venom spewed at Mariah. There are plenty of people here who don't like her current music or style or what have you but they always express it with respect and love still for her. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 19:09)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,104) by Stacey from USA Excellent post as well. Agree 100%. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 02:33) this is a reply to message 110,090

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,090) by MusicfanJ from Germany Jamie, Edward I absolutely feel the same about Mariah. It's good to know some longtime fans also miss the authentic, lovely Mariah. I miss the natural Mariah. "She was sexy without even trying, and that voice was just next level. That combo is what made her so special." So true, that was something beside her voice that made her so unique, so loveable and even relateable. For me this will always be the real Mariah. Of course we all change a bit with age, but most people stay indeed the same just wiser and older with luck. I do wonder what made her change so much too? Sometimes it feels like she hides the humble Mariah inside. I understand it can be a shield or something but it must be more than that. The "Joy to the world video" is one of my favourites. Not because it's so good, no story I know, but just seeing an already global superstar, having so much fun, looking so carefree, a diva but with a big heart and humour, Mariah was never more beautiful, more adorable than when she's "not trying". (Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:29)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,103) by Stacey from USA Well said Jaime, Bill, and Edward. People say we OG fans constantly live in the past. Well, I wonder why. For all the reasons you guys stated. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 02:31) this is a reply to message 110,096

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,096) by Bill from the UK Jamie thank you for putting so eloquently my exact thoughts. I think only the OG fans can relate to what you say, because we were there living those great moments live at the time. I don't think people get just how special she was and how she drew so many people to her by being an incredible talent, humble, and her good fortune of being naturally photogenic. Talk about hitting a jackpot. But then to see it descend year by year is so heartbreaking. Not just the voice, but the grace, the elegance, the class, the poise... sigh. Right now you're gone, you just vanished away. But I'll never leave you behind. No, I'll never forget you. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 17:33)

Sugar Sweet promotion (110,102) by Bobby A from United States I feel Gamma is just waiting on the video to drop and radio adds to hype up the promotion. We should see in August a late night or daytime TV performance and remixes before MC's festival performances in the UK and Brazil. I hope she and the ladies perform at the VMAs too. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 02:30) this is a reply to message 110,094

Sugar Sweet promotion (110,094) by MhieMhie from Vietnam Guys. Do check out Shenseea and Kehlani's socials. Damn, promotion is in the right direction with each has their own reel or video of their song parts. Genius. At first I thought it was the MV and was gonna feel disappointed to watch 3 girls just miming buuuuut its a part of the promo. Damn - Gamma and Mariah is gearing up for Sugar Sweet. They are not super hyping it like TD as potentially they used it to test the waters. More or less this might be a slow burn slow churn. As one saying goes "good things take time". I just want virality and reintroduction to Mariah being immortal lol. Charts, number one? Good. Top 100? Good. Not chart? Good. As I have another workout song to add in my repertoir. All is fine as long as she releases music and further cements her imprint in the world. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 15:26)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,101) by Zachariah from Croatia Hm, let's put it down like this; go back 30 years (this is for lambs who are following Mariah from day one) and try to remember yourself back then. Done? Ok. Now see yourself today. Somehow I doubt that you all are the same person. Because I am not. I was gullible, shy, very introverted, afraid to say something and just followed others. Today, I am unrecognizable. She is still a nice person and our Mariah - who gets her, gets her. Who doesn't, doesn't. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 00:19) this is a reply to message 110,090

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,090) by MusicfanJ from Germany Jamie, Edward I absolutely feel the same about Mariah. It's good to know some longtime fans also miss the authentic, lovely Mariah. I miss the natural Mariah. "She was sexy without even trying, and that voice was just next level. That combo is what made her so special." So true, that was something beside her voice that made her so unique, so loveable and even relateable. For me this will always be the real Mariah. Of course we all change a bit with age, but most people stay indeed the same just wiser and older with luck. I do wonder what made her change so much too? Sometimes it feels like she hides the humble Mariah inside. I understand it can be a shield or something but it must be more than that. The "Joy to the world video" is one of my favourites. Not because it's so good, no story I know, but just seeing an already global superstar, having so much fun, looking so carefree, a diva but with a big heart and humour, Mariah was never more beautiful, more adorable than when she's "not trying". (Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:29)

Mariah's charting power (110,100) by Bobby A from United States Chap GPT said it is possible that Apple allowed MC and Gamma to have a staggered release of full songwriting credits if it aligned with the label's marketing strategy. Well, I believe the Stereotypes, Harv, Roget Chahayed, and Bongo ByTheWay tracks may have features or samples on them like Bryson Tiller or R&B/Hip Hop samples. Who knows Drake or Brandy maybe featured on a couple of tracks. And we don't know who producers are for each song yet. I feel we are in for some surprises when the song titles and full credits are released in September. We may even see an increase in streaming numbers that day for TD and Sugar Sweet. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 22:19) this is a reply to message 110,060

Mariah's charting power (110,060) by Bobby A from United States Based upon the #5 charting postion of Sugar Sweet on iTunes today and Type Dangerous still rising on the radio airplay charts, I feel Here For It All is going to do very well during the first sales week. And we still haven't received the full tracklisting with features and full writing credits. I feel some writers were deliberately left off the Apple songwriters credits list that we saw to keep their feature status a secret. (Friday 25 July 2025; 17:50)

Andrew (110,099) by Shezz from Pk Agreed Mimi L. His ridiculous outbursts at you are my last memories of him. Whoever still has a soft spot or sympathy for him should maintain a direct private relationship with him. Bobby A. is downplaying how rude he was to him. And then of course the daily nonstop venom spewed at Mariah. There are plenty of people here who don't like her current music or style or what have you but they always express it with respect and love still for her. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 19:09) this is a reply to message 110,089

Andrew (110,089) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I for one am glad he's gone and hope he stays gone. I think everyone on this board forgot why he was banned. I can appreciate people having different takes and different opinions about MC but Andrew's opinions weren't just about Mariah. His very last stunt was being extremely violent towards me and a few others on this board. He resorted to name calling, personally attacking and just making outrageous posts that had no business here. All because he didn't agree with my views. I get some people who know him say that he was going though personal stuff but no amount of stuff going on in your personal life justifies viciously attacking someone on a freaking messageboard. Not only was he a bully, he also never considered that the person he's throwing insults at may have personal things going on themselves but didn't resort to his level of insult hurling. His language had gotten so bad when responding to me the webmaster had to stop posting them. Not only included abusive language he would also constantly demean people for their English, myself included when English isn't our first language. He was petty, a bully and downright abusive and this wasn't the first time he did that to me at least and wouldn't have been the last if he wasn't stopped. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:11)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,098) by Lee from UK I think "Tik Tok is going to eat this up" was definitely the initial marketing plan for Sugar Sweet. Unfortunately it seems like the marketing team are stuck in 2022 when this tactic actually worked for the likes of Meghan Trainor - who literally wrote hooks for TikTok. I love Mariah to bits but she is often either too far ahead of her time, or more recently, too far behind the times. I know she says she doesn't like to do what's "popular or on trend" but keeping up with what's current may be what she needs. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 18:15) this is a reply to message 110,090

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,090) by MusicfanJ from Germany Jamie, Edward I absolutely feel the same about Mariah. It's good to know some longtime fans also miss the authentic, lovely Mariah. I miss the natural Mariah. "She was sexy without even trying, and that voice was just next level. That combo is what made her so special." So true, that was something beside her voice that made her so unique, so loveable and even relateable. For me this will always be the real Mariah. Of course we all change a bit with age, but most people stay indeed the same just wiser and older with luck. I do wonder what made her change so much too? Sometimes it feels like she hides the humble Mariah inside. I understand it can be a shield or something but it must be more than that. The "Joy to the world video" is one of my favourites. Not because it's so good, no story I know, but just seeing an already global superstar, having so much fun, looking so carefree, a diva but with a big heart and humour, Mariah was never more beautiful, more adorable than when she's "not trying". (Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:29)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,097) by Jamie from UK Yes love the Joy to the World video for that reason, also love the Anytime You Need A Friend C&C remix video. The playfulness is so natural and she is so cool without even trying. She appealed from all angles back then. Now when people think of her it's for the big diva personality which has made her more unattractive to people over the years and pushed people away. But to her she thinks funny and has created this whole persona which unfortunately her career is based around as apposed to the music. She'll never be young Mariah again but at least have some dignity and humbleness to you, don't cheapen yourself for popularity. Mariah is the first to remind us she wrote her own songs at every chance she gets, but had she portrayed herself more professionally (at least in her persona) she wouldn't need to keep saying it, people would have had more respect for her, where as I think because of the image she has turned into people think she's an airhead, and she really hasn't done anything to quash that she is actually really intelligent. That's just my opinion and Mariah is free to live her life the way she chooses, but the humble Mariah we all fell in love with I'm sure wouldn't want to be like she is now. There's clearly some serious mental health issues going on as she's barely recognizably, I think the last time I remember her being fully coherent and like herself was during E=MC2 era. She was diva like but more in touch with herself and didn't appear lost and distracted. Whilst I think medication is crucial in her situation, I can't help but think she is heavily over medicated and it's causing this huge shift in her. I would love her to go on some kind of retreat where everything is stripped back, no cameras no booze no external interaction etc where she has no choice but to be at one with herself to find her true inner self again. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 17:44) this is a reply to message 110,090

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,090) by MusicfanJ from Germany Jamie, Edward I absolutely feel the same about Mariah. It's good to know some longtime fans also miss the authentic, lovely Mariah. I miss the natural Mariah. "She was sexy without even trying, and that voice was just next level. That combo is what made her so special." So true, that was something beside her voice that made her so unique, so loveable and even relateable. For me this will always be the real Mariah. Of course we all change a bit with age, but most people stay indeed the same just wiser and older with luck. I do wonder what made her change so much too? Sometimes it feels like she hides the humble Mariah inside. I understand it can be a shield or something but it must be more than that. The "Joy to the world video" is one of my favourites. Not because it's so good, no story I know, but just seeing an already global superstar, having so much fun, looking so carefree, a diva but with a big heart and humour, Mariah was never more beautiful, more adorable than when she's "not trying". (Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:29)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,096) by Bill from the UK Jamie thank you for putting so eloquently my exact thoughts. I think only the OG fans can relate to what you say, because we were there living those great moments live at the time. I don't think people get just how special she was and how she drew so many people to her by being an incredible talent, humble, and her good fortune of being naturally photogenic. Talk about hitting a jackpot. But then to see it descend year by year is so heartbreaking. Not just the voice, but the grace, the elegance, the class, the poise... sigh. Right now you're gone, you just vanished away. But I'll never leave you behind. No, I'll never forget you. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 17:33) this is a reply to message 110,075

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,075) by Jamie from UK Whilst I love that Mariah is still putting out music I can't help but wonder what went wrong for Mariah. I've just heard Without You on an Instagram post which to me is the pinnacle of Mariah in 1993, you couldn't get much better than that. To now her latest single Sugar Sweet (which I don't mind) but let's be honest she can barely sing this tune and it isn't very taxing on the voice as a were her earlier hits. When I hear old school Mariah I can't help but feel sad at where we are now. A complete transformation of personality and a huge degrading of vocals. What happened? Was it self inflicted or is it just natural wear and tear of a once untouchable voice. I would love to rewind to 1993 when her career took off internationally and just remind her to stay grounded and focus on what's important. I've said this multiple times but I just don't get how we went from Mariah to MC it's such a contrast of personalities. Her early cross over stuff was cool but as I've said countless times she took it too far and I think the partying etc took a toll on her vocals and ate away at her wholesomeness. She might say and pretend that she's always been hood but I remember those early days and there was no pretence, just a natural girl living her best life. Yes we all change but we're still recognisable, I think Mariah took it too far and now she doesn't even recognise herself. Her appearance last night on Jimmy Kimmel is a far cry from who she once was, I would love to sit 1993 Mariah down and show her 2025 Mariah. I don't even think she would relate to that. I'm speaking from the heart and probably don't understand the ins and outs of the celebrity lifestyle and how it affects you both physically and mentally. But part of me wants to understand what went wrong and what happened to Mariah and why she's so affected now and her voice has taken such a turn. It's great she's still giving us music but vocally and especially personality she's a far cry from what she was. I don't even think Mariah knows herself anymore she's that affected. I reminisce of her dancing on the beach with "to be around you" playing out to her now barely able to focus or speak and can't but help to want to say to her it's ok to be Mariah again. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 01:14)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,095) by Bill from the UK Great post Eddie. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 17:30) this is a reply to message 110,079

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,079) by Edward from USA Jamie, I've wondered the same thing. Mariah used to be so grounded, with this effortless innocence. She was sexy without even trying, and that voice was just next level. That combo is what made her so special. It's sad, but at least we have her amazing back catalog to fall back on. I'm really hoping "Here For It All" has at least one huge power ballad. I kind of feel like this might be her last album. With how the voice has been and how long she takes between projects, I'm not sure what she'll sound like in another five years. Hopefully she goes out with a bang, a critically acclaimed album and maybe a couple of Grammys to top it off. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 02:40)

Sugar Sweet promotion (110,094) by MhieMhie from Vietnam Guys. Do check out Shenseea and Kehlani's socials. Damn, promotion is in the right direction with each has their own reel or video of their song parts. Genius. At first I thought it was the MV and was gonna feel disappointed to watch 3 girls just miming buuuuut its a part of the promo. Damn - Gamma and Mariah is gearing up for Sugar Sweet. They are not super hyping it like TD as potentially they used it to test the waters. More or less this might be a slow burn slow churn. As one saying goes "good things take time". I just want virality and reintroduction to Mariah being immortal lol. Charts, number one? Good. Top 100? Good. Not chart? Good. As I have another workout song to add in my repertoir. All is fine as long as she releases music and further cements her imprint in the world. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 15:26)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,093) by Edward from USA The biggest shift in her personality happened around 2012. When she was a judge on American Idol, her full blown diva persona really took center stage. I actually felt a little embarrassed by the way she acted toward Ariana. Ariana had always spoken about how much of an influence she was on her career, but eventually, she stopped mentioning it for a while. I remember thinking, "Mariah, embrace that little girl, you’re old enough to be her mother." Thankfully, she seemed to come to her senses later on. I’m not saying she’s a bad person, I truly believe she’s good at heart, but at some point, she started believing her own hype and surrounded herself with some questionable people. From that moment on, she was never quite the same. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 15:16) this is a reply to message 110,090

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,090) by MusicfanJ from Germany Jamie, Edward I absolutely feel the same about Mariah. It's good to know some longtime fans also miss the authentic, lovely Mariah. I miss the natural Mariah. "She was sexy without even trying, and that voice was just next level. That combo is what made her so special." So true, that was something beside her voice that made her so unique, so loveable and even relateable. For me this will always be the real Mariah. Of course we all change a bit with age, but most people stay indeed the same just wiser and older with luck. I do wonder what made her change so much too? Sometimes it feels like she hides the humble Mariah inside. I understand it can be a shield or something but it must be more than that. The "Joy to the world video" is one of my favourites. Not because it's so good, no story I know, but just seeing an already global superstar, having so much fun, looking so carefree, a diva but with a big heart and humour, Mariah was never more beautiful, more adorable than when she's "not trying". (Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:29)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,092) by BFF from United States For me, my favorite Mariah was from the 1997-2000 period. She had her freedom from the marriage but also seemed very happy and carefree. The bad experience with “Glitter” changed things for the worse in my opinion. In my opinion, that was really the point at which she became more remote, seemed less relatable, and less focused on her voice and the music. That marriage to Tommy really screwed her over in a lot of ways and its aftermath derailed her professional and personal life in the early 2000s. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 15:10) this is a reply to message 110,075

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,075) by Jamie from UK Whilst I love that Mariah is still putting out music I can't help but wonder what went wrong for Mariah. I've just heard Without You on an Instagram post which to me is the pinnacle of Mariah in 1993, you couldn't get much better than that. To now her latest single Sugar Sweet (which I don't mind) but let's be honest she can barely sing this tune and it isn't very taxing on the voice as a were her earlier hits. When I hear old school Mariah I can't help but feel sad at where we are now. A complete transformation of personality and a huge degrading of vocals. What happened? Was it self inflicted or is it just natural wear and tear of a once untouchable voice. I would love to rewind to 1993 when her career took off internationally and just remind her to stay grounded and focus on what's important. I've said this multiple times but I just don't get how we went from Mariah to MC it's such a contrast of personalities. Her early cross over stuff was cool but as I've said countless times she took it too far and I think the partying etc took a toll on her vocals and ate away at her wholesomeness. She might say and pretend that she's always been hood but I remember those early days and there was no pretence, just a natural girl living her best life. Yes we all change but we're still recognisable, I think Mariah took it too far and now she doesn't even recognise herself. Her appearance last night on Jimmy Kimmel is a far cry from who she once was, I would love to sit 1993 Mariah down and show her 2025 Mariah. I don't even think she would relate to that. I'm speaking from the heart and probably don't understand the ins and outs of the celebrity lifestyle and how it affects you both physically and mentally. But part of me wants to understand what went wrong and what happened to Mariah and why she's so affected now and her voice has taken such a turn. It's great she's still giving us music but vocally and especially personality she's a far cry from what she was. I don't even think Mariah knows herself anymore she's that affected. I reminisce of her dancing on the beach with "to be around you" playing out to her now barely able to focus or speak and can't but help to want to say to her it's ok to be Mariah again. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 01:14)

Andrew (110,091) by Dove from United States Wow. I wasn't here when it got that bad. That sucks. I remember him being rude sometimes, but not abusive. Honestly though, I grew up around some abusive people, and then my first husband was an abuser, so sometimes it feels normal to me and I don't notice it. I hope Andrew, and I, and whoever else needs it, heals. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 14:15) this is a reply to message 110,089

Andrew (110,089) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I for one am glad he's gone and hope he stays gone. I think everyone on this board forgot why he was banned. I can appreciate people having different takes and different opinions about MC but Andrew's opinions weren't just about Mariah. His very last stunt was being extremely violent towards me and a few others on this board. He resorted to name calling, personally attacking and just making outrageous posts that had no business here. All because he didn't agree with my views. I get some people who know him say that he was going though personal stuff but no amount of stuff going on in your personal life justifies viciously attacking someone on a freaking messageboard. Not only was he a bully, he also never considered that the person he's throwing insults at may have personal things going on themselves but didn't resort to his level of insult hurling. His language had gotten so bad when responding to me the webmaster had to stop posting them. Not only included abusive language he would also constantly demean people for their English, myself included when English isn't our first language. He was petty, a bully and downright abusive and this wasn't the first time he did that to me at least and wouldn't have been the last if he wasn't stopped. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:11)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,090) by MusicfanJ from Germany Jamie, Edward I absolutely feel the same about Mariah. It's good to know some longtime fans also miss the authentic, lovely Mariah. I miss the natural Mariah. "She was sexy without even trying, and that voice was just next level. That combo is what made her so special." So true, that was something beside her voice that made her so unique, so loveable and even relateable. For me this will always be the real Mariah. Of course we all change a bit with age, but most people stay indeed the same just wiser and older with luck. I do wonder what made her change so much too? Sometimes it feels like she hides the humble Mariah inside. I understand it can be a shield or something but it must be more than that. The "Joy to the world video" is one of my favourites. Not because it's so good, no story I know, but just seeing an already global superstar, having so much fun, looking so carefree, a diva but with a big heart and humour, Mariah was never more beautiful, more adorable than when she's "not trying". (Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:29) this is a reply to message 110,079

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,079) by Edward from USA Jamie, I've wondered the same thing. Mariah used to be so grounded, with this effortless innocence. She was sexy without even trying, and that voice was just next level. That combo is what made her so special. It's sad, but at least we have her amazing back catalog to fall back on. I'm really hoping "Here For It All" has at least one huge power ballad. I kind of feel like this might be her last album. With how the voice has been and how long she takes between projects, I'm not sure what she'll sound like in another five years. Hopefully she goes out with a bang, a critically acclaimed album and maybe a couple of Grammys to top it off. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 02:40)

Andrew (110,089) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I for one am glad he's gone and hope he stays gone. I think everyone on this board forgot why he was banned. I can appreciate people having different takes and different opinions about MC but Andrew's opinions weren't just about Mariah. His very last stunt was being extremely violent towards me and a few others on this board. He resorted to name calling, personally attacking and just making outrageous posts that had no business here. All because he didn't agree with my views. I get some people who know him say that he was going though personal stuff but no amount of stuff going on in your personal life justifies viciously attacking someone on a freaking messageboard. Not only was he a bully, he also never considered that the person he's throwing insults at may have personal things going on themselves but didn't resort to his level of insult hurling. His language had gotten so bad when responding to me the webmaster had to stop posting them. Not only included abusive language he would also constantly demean people for their English, myself included when English isn't our first language. He was petty, a bully and downright abusive and this wasn't the first time he did that to me at least and wouldn't have been the last if he wasn't stopped. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:11) this is a reply to message 110,082

Andrew (110,082) by Dove from United States Yeah, he left an impression on me. Sometimes his opinions would piss me off but they weren't entirely wrong. I felt personally victimized when he said anything negative about MC. Lol. He's a talented and entertaining writer. I hope he's good. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 03:29)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,088) by Bobby A from United States I hope MC wins 100% with Here For It All. I want Sugar Sweet to be at least in the top 10 on the Hot 100 when her album drops. That would be so sweet for MC. I hope The Clark Sisters collaboration becomes a huge gospel radio hit and people start talking about it on social media. I hope one of the ballads on the album becomes a LTT moment for MC. September 26, 2025 is going be a huge day for MC filled with good reviews and TV appearances and a hopefully a GMA or Today Show performance. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 12:28) this is a reply to message 110,075

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,075) by Jamie from UK Whilst I love that Mariah is still putting out music I can't help but wonder what went wrong for Mariah. I've just heard Without You on an Instagram post which to me is the pinnacle of Mariah in 1993, you couldn't get much better than that. To now her latest single Sugar Sweet (which I don't mind) but let's be honest she can barely sing this tune and it isn't very taxing on the voice as a were her earlier hits. When I hear old school Mariah I can't help but feel sad at where we are now. A complete transformation of personality and a huge degrading of vocals. What happened? Was it self inflicted or is it just natural wear and tear of a once untouchable voice. I would love to rewind to 1993 when her career took off internationally and just remind her to stay grounded and focus on what's important. I've said this multiple times but I just don't get how we went from Mariah to MC it's such a contrast of personalities. Her early cross over stuff was cool but as I've said countless times she took it too far and I think the partying etc took a toll on her vocals and ate away at her wholesomeness. She might say and pretend that she's always been hood but I remember those early days and there was no pretence, just a natural girl living her best life. Yes we all change but we're still recognisable, I think Mariah took it too far and now she doesn't even recognise herself. Her appearance last night on Jimmy Kimmel is a far cry from who she once was, I would love to sit 1993 Mariah down and show her 2025 Mariah. I don't even think she would relate to that. I'm speaking from the heart and probably don't understand the ins and outs of the celebrity lifestyle and how it affects you both physically and mentally. But part of me wants to understand what went wrong and what happened to Mariah and why she's so affected now and her voice has taken such a turn. It's great she's still giving us music but vocally and especially personality she's a far cry from what she was. I don't even think Mariah knows herself anymore she's that affected. I reminisce of her dancing on the beach with "to be around you" playing out to her now barely able to focus or speak and can't but help to want to say to her it's ok to be Mariah again. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 01:14)

In love with Sugar Sweet (110,087) by MusicfanJ from Germany "TikTok is gonna eat this up." Maybe this is a reason I don't "feel" this song yet. I think younger ones will indeed like it. But "Type Dangerous" has grown on me plus the remixes. "Motorcycle man has a yen for me" somehow stays in the ear. And I love the Straisand [sic] song. Lol. It reminds me of a Disney movie. The new album stays excited. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 12:23) this is a reply to message 110,077

In love with Sugar Sweet (110,077) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Since I heard the snippet and the full song didn't disappoint. I do hope she's got an MC only version with a second verse because how is she gonna perform it when she's on stage without Kehlani and Sheseea? They have a lot of real estate in the song. It's a certifiable bop, much more than Type. She's using her comfort zone for the more "poppy" songs now GTFO vocal texture just like on Type. I predict a top 20 BB and depending on how the album performs, even higher. I like that it's an all female collab. Her lyrics, I am marinating on right now. One line gave ne pause but I'm used to Mariah's trolling so it could mean nothing. TikTok is gonna eat this up (Saturday 26 July 2025; 01:52)

NMD interview (110,086) by Haiji from United States Hopefully yall are able to view it since it's on Instagram. I tried looking for it on YouTube but couldn't find it. Not sure if there's a longer version though. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 12:16)

Jimmy Kimmel (110,085) by Bobby A from United States Oh, I thought that was Andrew posting. I hope he is well too. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 12:08) this is a reply to message 110,074

Jimmy Kimmel (110,074) by Edward from USA Bobby A, that was a different person from the UK. It's been nearly two years since Andy last posted here. I think he was dealing with some personal stuff. I hope he's ok wherever he is. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 01:13)

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