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The perfect role (114,005)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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If Mariah goes back into acting, a comedy or drama-dy is the genre that could fit her mediocre ability and personality. She's witty and funny. It might work. However, if she's really interested in acting, she can go to an acting workshop. I believe it would not be that hard. As a singer, she draws from her emotions; acting demands emotional depth to make performances believable and impactful for viewers.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 05:17)
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The perfect role (113,998)
by Lambi from USA
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I actually see Mariah doing a comedy classic. She could play as a poor, struggling single mom who's way past her prime but still convinced she's one performance away from superstardom.
She bounces around open mics, hotel lounges, bar gigs, county fairs, and singing competitions trying to make ends meet while demanding full diva treatment everywhere she goes. Her kids could be like, "I think only 18 year old girls should wear that." Or "Mom, again, no one knows that song anymore."
My bubbling scene idea is she gets booked to sing at a bar and arrogantly tells everyone, "Vegas called." People assume she's headlining a casino but it's actually just a run-down tavern. It'd also be freaking hilarious seeing her scramble together a superstar look with blue eye shadow, on a dollar-store budget.
The comedy comes from her having the confidence of a global superstar while living a life that's the opposite; it's rather unbelievably sad and pathetic. Add alcohol addiction somewhere. Couple of questionable low-life men. Think delusional, hysterical, unhinged, chaotic, and weirdly inspiring. Of course, the life lesson would be how family is really all that matters at the end. Working title: Ghetto Diva.
Everyone should throw their scene ideas here and we should help pitch it. It would help her connect with Patricia's story and heal her somehow. Comedy has always been her coping mechanism and I think it'd be fun to see her do some acting that's less serious. I honestly think she would do a good job.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:12)
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It's a wrap (114,004)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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We're nearly two decades removed from Tennessee and people are still talking about Mariah's acting "potential" like Hollywood is desperately overlooking the next great dramatic actress. Maybe the simpler explanation is that she's a phenomenal musician and a mediocre actress.
Not every criticism of her acting career can be blamed on Glitter.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 23:47)
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It's a wrap (114,002)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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We're just going to have to disagree on this one. I think Mariah has some untapped potential on the acting front (evidenced by "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee") and has been unfairly written off on that front due to the failure of "Glitter". She actually received good reviews for her performances in "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee". The films just didn't get wide releases outside of the festival circuit.
Attempting another film like "Tennessee" could lead to another interesting musical collaboration like "Right to Dream" with Willie Nelson. It could spark something that takes Mariah out of her comfort zone.
I just don't see Mariah writing and producing for other artists - if she comes up with something good, she's going to want to keep it for herself.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 17:02)
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It's a wrap (114,003)
by Sasha from Nomansland
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You are pretty optimistic when it comes to her acting career. The girl is 56 or 57 years old (who really knows), pretty much need a rollator to move, heavily medicated at times due to her bipolar disorder, probably has other health issues. In addition, she can't even remember the lyrics of her own songs while pretending singing live on stage and she needs hours of high maintenance in her beauty room before going out. Can you really imagine her on a movie set? I can't.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 20:46)
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It's a wrap (114,002)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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We're just going to have to disagree on this one. I think Mariah has some untapped potential on the acting front (evidenced by "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee") and has been unfairly written off on that front due to the failure of "Glitter". She actually received good reviews for her performances in "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee". The films just didn't get wide releases outside of the festival circuit.
Attempting another film like "Tennessee" could lead to another interesting musical collaboration like "Right to Dream" with Willie Nelson. It could spark something that takes Mariah out of her comfort zone.
I just don't see Mariah writing and producing for other artists - if she comes up with something good, she's going to want to keep it for herself.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 17:02)
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It's a wrap (114,002)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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We're just going to have to disagree on this one. I think Mariah has some untapped potential on the acting front (evidenced by "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee") and has been unfairly written off on that front due to the failure of "Glitter". She actually received good reviews for her performances in "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee". The films just didn't get wide releases outside of the festival circuit.
Attempting another film like "Tennessee" could lead to another interesting musical collaboration like "Right to Dream" with Willie Nelson. It could spark something that takes Mariah out of her comfort zone.
I just don't see Mariah writing and producing for other artists - if she comes up with something good, she's going to want to keep it for herself.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 17:02)
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It's a wrap (113,997)
by Edward from USA
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An unknown mediocre actor is not the same thing as Mariah Carey being mediocre at acting. Everything Mariah does gets magnified because of who she is. A random actor can be average and nobody cares. Mariah can't. Every role, every performance, every line delivery is going to be picked apart because she's Mariah Carey.
So saying "you don't have to be good to act" kind of misses the point. Sure, you don't. But why would anyone want her to pursue something she's never really been great at when she has other talents that are much more proven?
And I don't really buy the argument about her writing and producing either. Not every song written by Diane Warren, Babyface, or any other legendary songwriter is a hit. That's just the nature of the business. The difference is that Mariah has an entire career's worth of songwriting accomplishments behind her. Her track record as a writer is infinitely stronger than her track record as an actress.
At the end of the day, it's not about whether she can act. It's about where she's most likely to succeed and create something worthwhile. Outside of Precious, acting has never really been her lane. Writing, producing, and creating music have always been. If she's looking for a new creative outlet, it makes a lot more sense to lean into the things she's actually excelled at instead of chasing a film career that's never really taken off.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:09)
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Article: Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (114,001)
by Bill from the UK
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The Walter collab list does the rounds almost as much as my list of excuses I post every so often lol.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 16:40)
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Article: Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (114,000)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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I always get sad when an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about writes nonsenses like "Who are the other superstars that Walter had success with?" OK, here we go again: - Barbra Streisand - Celine Dion - Destiny's Child - Michael Bolton - Kenny G - Daryl Hall - Luther Vandross - New Kids on the Block - Dusty Springfield - All-4-One - Tina Arena - Gary Barlow - Babyface - Paul Anka - Savage Garden - Marc Anthony - Ricky Martin - Lara Fabian - Christina Aguilera - Josh Groban - Lionel Richie - Jessica Simpson - Earth, Wind & Fire - Leona Lewis - Brian McKnight - Idina Menzel - Neil Diamond
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:32)
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Article: Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (114,000)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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I always get sad when an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about writes nonsenses like "Who are the other superstars that Walter had success with?" OK, here we go again: - Barbra Streisand - Celine Dion - Destiny's Child - Michael Bolton - Kenny G - Daryl Hall - Luther Vandross - New Kids on the Block - Dusty Springfield - All-4-One - Tina Arena - Gary Barlow - Babyface - Paul Anka - Savage Garden - Marc Anthony - Ricky Martin - Lara Fabian - Christina Aguilera - Josh Groban - Lionel Richie - Jessica Simpson - Earth, Wind & Fire - Leona Lewis - Brian McKnight - Idina Menzel - Neil Diamond
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:32)
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Article: Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (113,999)
by Scott from USA
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What a ridiculous article. ShowBiz411 is mostly just a gossip column, so I guess it's their prerogative to stir up drama. But here is the truth: First, Mariah and Walter had a falling out a long time ago because he sold her out to her ex-husband during their divorce. If he had been interested in continuing their successful collaboration, he should have supported her during that time. Instead, he hedged his bets that Tommy would be the star to hook his wagon to and Mariah would fail without Tommy's support. Well, who's still around 30 years later? Tommy is disgraced and Mariah continues to be a relevant influence in the music industry. Walter made the wrong choice and ShowBiz411 wants to make it sound like Mariah is the disloyal one? We know better. Secondly, they assert that Walter is the "true composer" of her hits. That's not an accurate assessment. Walter is a talented musician and songwriter for sure - but his process with Mariah is well documented. She created the melodies and lyrics, and Walter helped her put what she heard in her head on "paper". He is a talented pianist and Mariah doesn't play, so she needed him to help her flesh out her ideas. But he is not the "true composer" of her hits. A collaborator, for sure, but the melodies and lyrics are entirely hers. The truth is that Mariah is a superstar who continued to have great success for decades after her collaboration with Walter ended. If he was the reason for her success, we wouldn't have songs like "Heartbreaker", "We Belong Together", "Touch My Body", or "#Beautiful". Who are the other superstars that Walter had success with? Savage Garden, anyone? Please.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:28)
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Article: Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (113,999)
by Scott from USA
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What a ridiculous article. ShowBiz411 is mostly just a gossip column, so I guess it's their prerogative to stir up drama. But here is the truth: First, Mariah and Walter had a falling out a long time ago because he sold her out to her ex-husband during their divorce. If he had been interested in continuing their successful collaboration, he should have supported her during that time. Instead, he hedged his bets that Tommy would be the star to hook his wagon to and Mariah would fail without Tommy's support. Well, who's still around 30 years later? Tommy is disgraced and Mariah continues to be a relevant influence in the music industry. Walter made the wrong choice and ShowBiz411 wants to make it sound like Mariah is the disloyal one? We know better. Secondly, they assert that Walter is the "true composer" of her hits. That's not an accurate assessment. Walter is a talented musician and songwriter for sure - but his process with Mariah is well documented. She created the melodies and lyrics, and Walter helped her put what she heard in her head on "paper". He is a talented pianist and Mariah doesn't play, so she needed him to help her flesh out her ideas. But he is not the "true composer" of her hits. A collaborator, for sure, but the melodies and lyrics are entirely hers. The truth is that Mariah is a superstar who continued to have great success for decades after her collaboration with Walter ended. If he was the reason for her success, we wouldn't have songs like "Heartbreaker", "We Belong Together", "Touch My Body", or "#Beautiful". Who are the other superstars that Walter had success with? Savage Garden, anyone? Please.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:28)
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The perfect role (113,998)
by Lambi from USA
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I actually see Mariah doing a comedy classic. She could play as a poor, struggling single mom who's way past her prime but still convinced she's one performance away from superstardom.
She bounces around open mics, hotel lounges, bar gigs, county fairs, and singing competitions trying to make ends meet while demanding full diva treatment everywhere she goes. Her kids could be like, "I think only 18 year old girls should wear that." Or "Mom, again, no one knows that song anymore."
My bubbling scene idea is she gets booked to sing at a bar and arrogantly tells everyone, "Vegas called." People assume she's headlining a casino but it's actually just a run-down tavern. It'd also be freaking hilarious seeing her scramble together a superstar look with blue eye shadow, on a dollar-store budget.
The comedy comes from her having the confidence of a global superstar while living a life that's the opposite; it's rather unbelievably sad and pathetic. Add alcohol addiction somewhere. Couple of questionable low-life men. Think delusional, hysterical, unhinged, chaotic, and weirdly inspiring. Of course, the life lesson would be how family is really all that matters at the end. Working title: Ghetto Diva.
Everyone should throw their scene ideas here and we should help pitch it. It would help her connect with Patricia's story and heal her somehow. Comedy has always been her coping mechanism and I think it'd be fun to see her do some acting that's less serious. I honestly think she would do a good job.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:12)
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It's a wrap (113,996)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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Who says you have to be "good" in order to pursue film and TV roles? There are plenty of people in the film and TV industry who are mediocre. Just look at anything that Tyler Perry has put out and you can see that superb acting chops are not a requirement to be in a hit film or TV show. At least it would be something different than robotically miming past hits.
And you forget... Mariah has already tried writing and producing for her other artists in the past with pretty middling results. I think her ego is too big to go back to letting other artists to sing stuff that she's written and produced. In the past, most of the things she wrote for other people were cast offs - songs she didn't want to keep for herself because they weren't very good. She's not disciplined enough to do what Diane Warren, Babyface and other professional songwriters do.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 12:26)
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It's a wrap (113,997)
by Edward from USA
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An unknown mediocre actor is not the same thing as Mariah Carey being mediocre at acting. Everything Mariah does gets magnified because of who she is. A random actor can be average and nobody cares. Mariah can't. Every role, every performance, every line delivery is going to be picked apart because she's Mariah Carey.
So saying "you don't have to be good to act" kind of misses the point. Sure, you don't. But why would anyone want her to pursue something she's never really been great at when she has other talents that are much more proven?
And I don't really buy the argument about her writing and producing either. Not every song written by Diane Warren, Babyface, or any other legendary songwriter is a hit. That's just the nature of the business. The difference is that Mariah has an entire career's worth of songwriting accomplishments behind her. Her track record as a writer is infinitely stronger than her track record as an actress.
At the end of the day, it's not about whether she can act. It's about where she's most likely to succeed and create something worthwhile. Outside of Precious, acting has never really been her lane. Writing, producing, and creating music have always been. If she's looking for a new creative outlet, it makes a lot more sense to lean into the things she's actually excelled at instead of chasing a film career that's never really taken off.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:09)
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It's a wrap (113,996)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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Who says you have to be "good" in order to pursue film and TV roles? There are plenty of people in the film and TV industry who are mediocre. Just look at anything that Tyler Perry has put out and you can see that superb acting chops are not a requirement to be in a hit film or TV show. At least it would be something different than robotically miming past hits.
And you forget... Mariah has already tried writing and producing for her other artists in the past with pretty middling results. I think her ego is too big to go back to letting other artists to sing stuff that she's written and produced. In the past, most of the things she wrote for other people were cast offs - songs she didn't want to keep for herself because they weren't very good. She's not disciplined enough to do what Diane Warren, Babyface and other professional songwriters do.
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It's a wrap (113,996)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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Who says you have to be "good" in order to pursue film and TV roles? There are plenty of people in the film and TV industry who are mediocre. Just look at anything that Tyler Perry has put out and you can see that superb acting chops are not a requirement to be in a hit film or TV show. At least it would be something different than robotically miming past hits.
And you forget... Mariah has already tried writing and producing for her other artists in the past with pretty middling results. I think her ego is too big to go back to letting other artists to sing stuff that she's written and produced. In the past, most of the things she wrote for other people were cast offs - songs she didn't want to keep for herself because they weren't very good. She's not disciplined enough to do what Diane Warren, Babyface and other professional songwriters do.
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It's a wrap (113,991)
by Edward from USA
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"Acting again", is that a joke?
"Precious" is the closest she's ever come to actually acting. In most of her other roles, she was basically just playing herself.
At this point, I think she should stay away from acting and focus on writing and producing. Out of all her talents, those are the areas where she can still really shine and make the most of what she brings to the table. JLo is to singing what Mariah is to acting.
(Monday 15 June 2026; 20:25)
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It's a wrap / acting (113,995)
by nancy from Switzerland
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Acting is not her forte. Tommy Mottola forbid her to act. He certainly is not a good guy. But he knew which direction to go with Mariah and recognized what her strengths and her weaks are. It was not beneficial for MC's health and she did not feel free. But for her career it was an enormous advantage. But nowadays she is not even able to lipsync her songs correctly. Because she is so distracted. Tommy Mottola also did not want her to make huge concerts. Only a few performances and attend on shows like [Oprah] etc. The first big tour was Daydream era. When Tommy wasn't around then she started to tour heavily.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 11:22)
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Voice (113,994)
by nancy from Switzerland
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I think too she has to stick to songwriting and singing in the studio. But the voice today which sounds weak, it is difficult to get promotional support from the music label. Even Madonna's or J .Lo's voice sounds healthier today. Although they are not known for their powerful voices. But they dance and have a huge stage presence.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 09:58)
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It's a wrap (113,993)
by Lighty from China
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Nowadays she can't even act like she's singing live, let alone playing a real role.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 06:34)
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It's a wrap (113,989)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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It certainly does seem like Mariah has been in a pattern of "arrested development" since the "Butterfly" era. She has worked with different producers but they're overall from the same musical lane. There have been rare exceptions - "Right to Dream" with Willie Nelson, "Giving Me Life" with Blood Orange, "Beautiful" with Miguel.
From where I sit, Mariah seems unwilling to step outside her comfort zone and content to release a throwaway album here and there while concentrating energy on legacy releases and the massive royalty checks coming in at Christmas time.
Music doesn't seem to bring her much joy these days, so I wonder if it might be an opportune time to attempt acting again even if it's just Made for TV movies or a periodic TV show role. She did good work in "Wisegirls", "Precious", and "Tennessee". I'd rather see her do that for a while than just watching her lip sync past hits joylessly in overpriced stadium shows year after year.
(Monday 15 June 2026; 15:35)
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It's a wrap (113,992)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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True. Acting is not her cup of tea, but cameo roles will do. Yes, she should stay in her singing and songwriting as long as she can, but it has to sound good.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 03:54)
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It's a wrap (113,991)
by Edward from USA
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"Acting again", is that a joke?
"Precious" is the closest she's ever come to actually acting. In most of her other roles, she was basically just playing herself.
At this point, I think she should stay away from acting and focus on writing and producing. Out of all her talents, those are the areas where she can still really shine and make the most of what she brings to the table. JLo is to singing what Mariah is to acting.
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It's a wrap (113,991)
by Edward from USA
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"Acting again", is that a joke?
"Precious" is the closest she's ever come to actually acting. In most of her other roles, she was basically just playing herself.
At this point, I think she should stay away from acting and focus on writing and producing. Out of all her talents, those are the areas where she can still really shine and make the most of what she brings to the table. JLo is to singing what Mariah is to acting.
(Monday 15 June 2026; 20:25)
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It's a wrap (113,989)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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It certainly does seem like Mariah has been in a pattern of "arrested development" since the "Butterfly" era. She has worked with different producers but they're overall from the same musical lane. There have been rare exceptions - "Right to Dream" with Willie Nelson, "Giving Me Life" with Blood Orange, "Beautiful" with Miguel.
From where I sit, Mariah seems unwilling to step outside her comfort zone and content to release a throwaway album here and there while concentrating energy on legacy releases and the massive royalty checks coming in at Christmas time.
Music doesn't seem to bring her much joy these days, so I wonder if it might be an opportune time to attempt acting again even if it's just Made for TV movies or a periodic TV show role. She did good work in "Wisegirls", "Precious", and "Tennessee". I'd rather see her do that for a while than just watching her lip sync past hits joylessly in overpriced stadium shows year after year.
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by Lambi from USA
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JD is actually good though. I love Cruise Control, Love Story, and The One. But it did get stale around MIAM. They brought nothing new to the table.
He did evolve as a producer and got with the times eventually, though I'm not sure if I'd be excited. His latest hits are subpar: Pressure and Soft Girl Era, both by Ari Lennox. IMHO, A No No, written by Muni Long, was infinitely better.
Maybe Mariah, along with BMC, will bring out the best in him. The trio worked on SIO and DFAU, and they were solid bops. She's really pulling all her power moves to retire on a good note, it seems like.
The refusal to tap out is actually crazy. She's been flopping since Memoirs. It's been 17 years, and she is still going. I gotta respect the hustle.
(Monday 15 June 2026; 17:26)
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by Bill from the UK
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I did see that my friend, and like every time I see her and JD in that damn studio together I inwardly sigh because she's once again staying in the same gear she's been in since Butterfly. At this point I'm wishing they are there to close that blessed studio down once and for all.
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by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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It certainly does seem like Mariah has been in a pattern of "arrested development" since the "Butterfly" era. She has worked with different producers but they're overall from the same musical lane. There have been rare exceptions - "Right to Dream" with Willie Nelson, "Giving Me Life" with Blood Orange, "Beautiful" with Miguel.
From where I sit, Mariah seems unwilling to step outside her comfort zone and content to release a throwaway album here and there while concentrating energy on legacy releases and the massive royalty checks coming in at Christmas time.
Music doesn't seem to bring her much joy these days, so I wonder if it might be an opportune time to attempt acting again even if it's just Made for TV movies or a periodic TV show role. She did good work in "Wisegirls", "Precious", and "Tennessee". I'd rather see her do that for a while than just watching her lip sync past hits joylessly in overpriced stadium shows year after year.
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by Bill from the UK
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I did see that my friend, and like every time I see her and JD in that damn studio together I inwardly sigh because she's once again staying in the same gear she's been in since Butterfly. At this point I'm wishing they are there to close that blessed studio down once and for all.
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by Bill from the UK
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I did see that my friend, and like every time I see her and JD in that damn studio together I inwardly sigh because she's once again staying in the same gear she's been in since Butterfly. At this point I'm wishing they are there to close that blessed studio down once and for all.
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by Bobby A from United States
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Bill, I don't feel MC is ready to just be a songwriter for Ariana or another artist. Did you see that she went back into the studio with JD and Bryan-Michael Cox yesterday? MC17 just might be in our hands next year.
(Sunday 14 June 2026; 21:45)
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MC songwriting (113,987)
by Lambi from USA
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She kind of already wrote about those though: "Where do I go from here? How do I disappear?" is from the tremendous embarrassment of NYE. "I remember so many nights in the bed alone" is a precursor to being a single mom, and "all my tears dissipate cause our love is supernatural" is peak motherhood. I think it was Lara who said "but when you leave, you take a little bit of fiber that's embedded in me" may be about Roc & Roe going to Nick's for the weekend, and I actually agree with that read.
But true, I'm not exactly sure why there isn't an easily distinguishable theme in some of her songs. She writes rather vaguely. I tried to decipher HFIA, and what I got was essentially loving someone through the highs and lows of a relationship: the glory, the shakes, and withdrawals. The heart of the song is probably her children, though. It makes sense because they are the closest to her, and sadly they would also be the ones most affected by her mental illness.
Her writing is pretty abstract in my opinion, even in Portrait. It's all broad concepts and suggestive language. Languishing and TAOLG also fall into the same category. It's still very emotional but you can't always tell what/who it's about, at least for the average listener. I'd say she still managed to deliver the true emotion of those songs, but in a more indirect, symbolic way, probably for a reason. She is queen of discretion after all.
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I think she opened up with Here for It All (the song), but the rest of the album have generic lyrics because she doesn't want to open up. She can't keep in singing about things from 30 years ago, which is her way of hiding.
Why can't she write about motherhood, about the hardships of being alone without partner, about aging, about being viewed differently by the public. It would her to sing some lines and thoughts in The Meaning of Mariah.
But I think she is scared. Frankly it's easier to write experiences for a book matter-of-factly, than put emotions into those words through a song, because she is an artist.
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MC songwriting (113,986)
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I don't know if it's fair to say she's "scared". Not every artist processes their life through direct autobiography. Mariah has always been selective about what she reveals in her music, often using metaphor, fantasy, romance, or reflections on past experiences rather than documenting her current life in a diary-like way.
Also, just because she doesn't explicitly sing about motherhood, aging, or being single doesn't mean she's avoiding vulnerability. Different artists express themselves differently. Some write very literally, others prefer themes that are more universal or timeless.
The Meaning of Mariah showed she is capable of opening up deeply when she chooses to, but a memoir and a song serve different purposes. A memoir allows for detailed explanation and context, while songs often rely on mood, symbolism, and emotional snapshots.
It's possible you'd like more songs about her present-day experiences, and that's a valid preference. But concluding that the absence of those topics means she's hiding or afraid seems like a leap.
(Monday 15 June 2026; 06:25)
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MC songwriting (113,980)
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I think she opened up with Here for It All (the song), but the rest of the album have generic lyrics because she doesn't want to open up. She can't keep in singing about things from 30 years ago, which is her way of hiding.
Why can't she write about motherhood, about the hardships of being alone without partner, about aging, about being viewed differently by the public. It would her to sing some lines and thoughts in The Meaning of Mariah.
But I think she is scared. Frankly it's easier to write experiences for a book matter-of-factly, than put emotions into those words through a song, because she is an artist.
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MC songwriting (113,985)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I don't know if it's fair to say she's "scared". Not every artist processes their life through direct autobiography. Mariah has always been selective about what she reveals in her music, often using metaphor, fantasy, romance, or reflections on past experiences rather than documenting her current life in a diary-like way.
Also, just because she doesn't explicitly sing about motherhood, aging, or being single doesn't mean she's avoiding vulnerability. Different artists express themselves differently. Some write very literally, others prefer themes that are more universal or timeless.
The Meaning of Mariah showed she is capable of opening up deeply when she chooses to, but a memoir and a song serve different purposes. A memoir allows for detailed explanation and context, while songs often rely on mood, symbolism, and emotional snapshots.
It's possible you'd like more songs about her present-day experiences, and that's a valid preference. But concluding that the absence of those topics means she's hiding or afraid seems like a leap.
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MC songwriting (113,980)
by jaker20 from US
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I think she opened up with Here for It All (the song), but the rest of the album have generic lyrics because she doesn't want to open up. She can't keep in singing about things from 30 years ago, which is her way of hiding.
Why can't she write about motherhood, about the hardships of being alone without partner, about aging, about being viewed differently by the public. It would her to sing some lines and thoughts in The Meaning of Mariah.
But I think she is scared. Frankly it's easier to write experiences for a book matter-of-factly, than put emotions into those words through a song, because she is an artist.
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MC songwriting (113,984)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I don't know if it's fair to say she's "scared". Not every artist processes their life through direct autobiography. Mariah has always been selective about what she reveals in her music, often using metaphor, fantasy, romance, or reflections on past experiences rather than documenting her current life in a diary-like way.
Also, just because she doesn't explicitly sing about motherhood, aging, or being single doesn't mean she's avoiding vulnerability. Different artists express themselves differently. Some write very literally, others prefer themes that are more universal or timeless.
The Meaning of Mariah showed she is capable of opening up deeply when she chooses to, but a memoir and a song serve different purposes. A memoir allows for detailed explanation and context, while songs often rely on mood, symbolism, and emotional snapshots.
It's possible you'd like more songs about her present-day experiences, and that's a valid preference. But concluding that the absence of those topics means she's hiding or afraid seems like a leap.
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I think she opened up with Here for It All (the song), but the rest of the album have generic lyrics because she doesn't want to open up. She can't keep in singing about things from 30 years ago, which is her way of hiding.
Why can't she write about motherhood, about the hardships of being alone without partner, about aging, about being viewed differently by the public. It would her to sing some lines and thoughts in The Meaning of Mariah.
But I think she is scared. Frankly it's easier to write experiences for a book matter-of-factly, than put emotions into those words through a song, because she is an artist.
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It's a wrap (113,983)
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Maybe not. But her union to Nick Cannon did produce two children. Being a mom may be the only thing keeping her going at this point.
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It's a wrap (113,975)
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I agree with all of this. I hope there are no more albums. A song here or there is fine but I think Here For It All is a perfect ending to an amazing vocal career. The next album will basically have to be spoken word at this point. Mariah will never live through another person. Can you imagine if she has enough writing in her to produce ten more #1's and she gifts them to Ariana to pass her in the all time list. It's just never going to happen with someone who is as competitive as Mariah. I think she is hooked on some kind of drugs and has been since she fell of that table in 2013 curtsey of Nick Cannon. A person she had no business marrying in the first place.
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MC 2017? It's A Wrap? Bye Bye? (113,982)
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I hate to agree with you, TJ, but I share your sentiments, especially regarding the IDKH situation with JLo. We all understand where that expression is coming from and the truth behind it. I've watched her movie on Netflix, and despite her diva-like attitude (which is reportedly worse than Mariah Carey's, according to the media and those who have worked with her), I still appreciate her as an actress.
As for singing, songwriting, and her album, recent messages from dedicated fans seem to suggest that they are ready for Mariah to wrap things up, leading to her song, "Is it a wrap? Or are we really singing 'bye-bye?'" I don't think so. Remember when Mariah mentioned in previous interviews that she can't envision doing anything other than singing and creating music? I believe she will continue to pursue that passion despite the challenges you've all highlighted. While her voice may have been affected over time, she can still sing and, most importantly, continue writing songs. Hey, I believe writing songs is her innate coping defense.
It's hard to predict where she will go with her current situation musically, but we can only hope and pray for the best. Let's continue to support her while enjoying the classic status of her early music.
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I think she has stagnated as a musician a long time ago. She makes what she thinks is safe, and then it fails. This old school RnB is just boring (in my opinion). Her voice has become metallic and sounds more like the chipmunks characters. It's difficult to hear what she is singing, because of the voice and the mumbling throughout some songs. I also think that her lyrics used to be more mature back in the days. It's to much swearing and brand naming in her latest work. The melodies are almost gone compared to how she sang and produced in her early days. I'm tired of the "I don't know her" attitude, and I think she has lost that fight against J.Lo (who acts much more mature, polite and classy about the whole thing). Mariah comes out as simple and bitter, acting like a spoiled child. Her interviews are not interesting because there has been absolutely nothing new for the last 10-15 years. It's like she's on repeat. She doesn't get the respect she wants and there's reasons for that. She just doesn't realise it.
I believe that most people outside this board think she is an outdated diva with crazy demands and no connection with the real world (or that she stopped making music in 2005). Most of my friends can't stand her, and when I mention her name to people they are either "who is that?" or "she is horrible". Guess who is fighting for her in those discussions. That's me.
(Sunday 14 June 2026; 08:09)
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Do you remember when MC's songwriting took a downward fall on Memoirs because she had to write lyrics to match The-Dream's melody and lyrics on his demo? Some critics called her out on that. Her vocals and lyrics were not that great on Memoirs. Fast forward to MIAM and this one reviewer said MC got the memo for MIAM. Her vocals and lyrics improved from Memoirs because she wrote about her broken marriage to Nick and motherhood. MC has been very unhappy for a while not being in love and having a family unit for Roc and Roe. Bryan gave her stability and love when they were together. It seems like MC lost motivation in the studio during the seven years it took her to complete HFIA because of her vocal decline. I hope she can find love again during the recording of MC17.
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I think she opened up with Here for It All (the song), but the rest of the album have generic lyrics because she doesn't want to open up. She can't keep in singing about things from 30 years ago, which is her way of hiding.
Why can't she write about motherhood, about the hardships of being alone without partner, about aging, about being viewed differently by the public. It would her to sing some lines and thoughts in The Meaning of Mariah.
But I think she is scared. Frankly it's easier to write experiences for a book matter-of-factly, than put emotions into those words through a song, because she is an artist.
(Monday 15 June 2026; 02:47)
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