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It's a wrap (114,029) by Bobby A from United States
MC's 2016 New Year's Eve disastrous performance broke her as well. It broke her so much that she wrote Portrait. MC really hasn't been the same on any stage since that awful moment. I hope she can find her groove again on stage by moving more and singing live. Wouldn't it be cool if she partnered up with Tiana Taylor to help with her stage presence prior to launching MC17?
(Monday 22 June 2026; 02:26)
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It's a wrap (114,028) by MusicfanJ from Germany
"I think Nick leaving broke her to the core." That's what I think too. And it's so sad. Mariah really thought it is a "love story" and he did "the impossible" but that clownish, egomaniac man only broke her inner heart. He and Stella are the worst. Back then I had a bad feeling when the news were telling that she will marry him after such a short time. But that he became such a nightmare, it was a bad surprise. Mariah always wanted a stable family for own (after all her experiences from childhood on) but he left her with two kids and made many babies with diffrent women. He's a shame as a man and as a person. A second divorce is one thing and hard enough, but Nick made her look like a fool. I also feel sorry for the children, they will have questions soon. I hope they can be a little support for Mariah when they are grown-up. Mariah needs a true soul, I hope one day she'll find him. She deserves happiness with a real man. But no more clowns, then it's better to be alone and find inner peace and strength again. Good friends can help too.
(Sunday 21 June 2026; 14:34)
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It's a wrap (114,027) by nancy from Switzerland
Mc has always been into fashion. But she put music first. She also took care of her voice with tea and honey. And now she replaced tea with Champagne splashes. I remember the interviews of the Charmbracelet era. (Larry King etc. They were so spontaneous comparing to what I see today. Eg. The project. In 2014 she started rambling and being very awkward. Eg. The Breakfast Club.) She is in the I do not care club. The clothes now fit a lot better. She used to wear too tight clothes at times. Especially in the Rainbow, Glitter and Stella era. The face looks great thanks to her stylists. In a few photos the lips are too thick in my opinion.
(Saturday 20 June 2026; 23:58)
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It's a wrap (114,026) by Lambi from USA
I feel like she was pretty much the same until around 2014. Post-divorce, the triple D's and clown contour got a little too desperate. I think Nick leaving broke her to the core.

Mariah has always been about looks, in my opinion. I mean, it's Hollywood, you kind of have to be. She was always fixing her hair, even in the 90s, always making sure you shot her from her good side. It's just that in the 2000s, Britney, Christina, Beyoncé, Aaliyah, and other up-and-coming pop girlies all had formidable sex appeal. There was just more competition, and Mariah made sure she was up to par.

She stuck it out naturally for as long as possible, facially at least. Her look that night on Idol when she bopped Nicki's head off with, "Not everybody has that," looked like she was straight out of the Honey remix video.

The Stella era is really when she started heavily experimenting with Botox, which she most likely despised because she ended up redeeming herself in 2018 with yet another beauty peak and I honestly think she looks good even today. She hasn't had the bee-sting lips or the MJ nose.

She thickens her lips via makeup and, in my assessment, did a non-invasive nose slimming procedure, where they inject filler to achieve the desired shape but it's very minimal. She sort of just harmonizes with her natural features, which I actually appreciate. It's just the boobs that are overdone.
(Saturday 20 June 2026; 11:26)
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It's a wrap (114,025) by Bobby A from United States
Your post made me watch MC's First Vision today. It was nice to see how MC captivated the whole music industry with her voice. I don't think any other female artist will ever come along and have the rise to stardom like MC. Thinking about next year, I really feel we are going to be talking next year how MC brought it home with MC17. I just feel it in my soul.
(Saturday 20 June 2026; 06:12)
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GenX OG fans (114,024) by Lainsky from Philippines
I guess the GenX OG fans are simply blessed to have experienced and witnessed Mariah at her prime. I have seen her live once during her first concert here in the Philippines. I was sitting in the 10th row from the front. She had two more concerts here, or three more than a decade later, and I decided not to see her. Aside from the very pricey ticket, the amount was not worth the quality of her performance and the show itself. As you said, it was pretty much all the same and fell flat. Don't get me wrong. I still adore her. However, I've learned to accept and live with the reality of who she is now, together with the artist and person she was once.
(Saturday 20 June 2026; 02:53)
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Mariah in Jamaica 2015 concert (114,023) by Lambi from USA
I love 420-riah. LMAO. I'm forever impressed by the 2nd verse of WBT in Jamaica. You can tell she wrote the song because of the way she ad libbed her way through it and still perfectly sat right on top of the melody and instrumentation, freaking phenomenal musical genius. Peep, "I gotta change the station."
(Friday 19 June 2026; 23:35)
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Mariah in Jamaica 2015 concert (114,022) by ADAM from USA
On a positive note, I wanted to share with the community this link for MC's iconic Jamaica concert in 2015. This long form video is so heart warming to watch. Her adlibs were so creative and interesting. Her spirit was everything. Her tone was drastically different from the records but it didn't matter. She was a free spirit and I loved to watch every minute of this. I wish she would open up about her struggles as this person nowadays is a ghost of her former self. The amount of stuff she didn't address in her memoir easily warrants another book or two. I'm not anxious to see her memoir on film with Lee Daniels as I feel she's not an objective source to document what really happened and as today, the most interesting talking points would be what happened to her voice and we know she won't even touch the topic.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 21:25)
It's a wrap (114,021) by Edward from USA
Jamie, that's exactly how I feel. I don't think most OG fans wanted Mariah to stay exactly the same forever. We just wanted her to keep the things that made us love her in the first place, her authenticity, her humility, and the focus on her talent instead of all the superficial stuff. Her metamorphosis on "Butterfly" was shockingly amazing to me, she was sexy without even trying.

Up until around 2012, she was still a diva, but there was still a lot of the old Mariah there. Now she seems like she's on autopilot. Her concerts are basically the same show over and over again. She just stands there, looking more focused on not missing one of her many lipping cues or forgetting the lyrics than actually connecting with the audience. Everything feels flat like the shoes she refuses to wear.

Like you and Bill, I'm just happy I got to experience her when she was at her best. At least we have all that amazing music to go back to, and those remixes were everything. For me, the closes she got to replicate 90's remixes was with "Triumphant", after that, most of it was pretty meh.

As much as I love Mariah, I wouldn't pay to see her live at this point. I feel the same way about Madonna. Her shows are definitely more interesting, and the production value is still impressive, but she barely moves. She's in amazing shape, but you can still see the difference. She's also still leaning on the same shock-value tactics that worked 30 years ago, and they just don't hit the same when you're pushing 70.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 17:48)
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It's a wrap (114,020) by Jamie from UK
I’ll have to dig out my ticket and see what seat I was in relation to you lol. Yes we lived through the best times. Artists decline over the years is inevitable but I would never in a million years have predicted we would be where we are at now.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 16:29)
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It's a wrap (114,019) by Bill from the UK
Me too. I've found some peace living in my 90s bubble and enjoying her performances, interviews, albums, and remixes from that decade. So glad I was there at the time and witnessed it all first hand, and I'll be eternally grateful that I attended the Daydream Tour's London concert. I still get a pang when I watch her interview on This Morning in the UK, where she said "I would never lip sync." Oh Mariah.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 15:35)
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It's a wrap (114,018) by Jamie from UK
Yes watching her early interviews she's all about the music. Now all she really cares about is how she looks, some of which will have affected her voice indirectly and directly. She once said she wasn't all about the glitz and glamour. Now that's all she's about. It's a real shame she went this way, but she only has herself to blame. It was cute at first but eventually it's overtaken the music and even her personality. She will never be like she was but it would be nice for her to still be humble and connected. I used to follow Mariah to hotels just to get a glimpse of her, I couldn't wait to see her on TV or in concerts, I'd constantly be chasing down memorabilia. It's a sad day when I'm clinging onto the old Mariah and the pre 2016 Mariah as I currently feel disconnected from who she is right now. It makes me sad to feel this way.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 14:21)
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It's a wrap (114,017) by Dave from USA
I would agree. It is odd that once she broke away from Tommy, where you would think she would continue to shine personally, she actually seemed to have less and less self esteem publicly. I'm not sure if it was the declining voice, which appears shot now, or because she started to put so much of her identity on her antics and looks, that as she aged, she grew more insecure. I was watching an old tape from when I saw her live in 92. She was so alive up on stage and her voice was so incredible.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 20:36)
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Article: Mariah to guest star on "The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder" (114,016) by Bobby A from United States
It will be fun to watch MC's comedic timing and vocals shine again during another Proud Family episode. Also, I forgot MC appeared in three different American Dad episodes in 2013.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 19:19)
It's a wrap (114,015) by MusicfanJ from Germany
"I miss pre-breakdown Mariah. She was so refreshingly interesting, articulate and intelligent." Oh yes, she was. I miss her so much too. Her aura was just magical. So positive, full of life, she did outshine everyone and everything back then. Pure Mariah power. I've never seen someone so fascinating, lovely with that smile like Mariah during late 90ies. Her eyes were always shining. I wish I could go back to that time, before 9/11. I was also happier then, but yes life life must go on. But so many things really were better then. I also wonder if "a part of that smart, happy Mariah before breakdown" is still there in her soul or vanished away. I would love to see her again. She's missing.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 16:32)
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It's a wrap (114,014) by Lambi from USA
I agree with the untapped comedienne potential. People with deep trauma use humor to cope and inevitably become hilarious. Her imitation and accent skills are so underrated.

But fair, she is essentially a living corpse these days, not sure how she is going to navigate a movie set. I too am exhausted seeing her with no spark. She's rather dull even when she should be excited talking about something she loves like songwriting. The NY Times interview was saddening.

I miss pre-breakdown Mariah. She was so refreshingly interesting, articulate and intelligent.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 11:24)
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It's a wrap - Bond Girl (114,013) by Lainsky from Philippines
She totally gave that vibe in the "Honey" music video, my favorite because it's like a mini-movie. I wish she had done something like this. Why did it not materialize? Was the Bond girl just purely a rumor back then?
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 05:06)
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It's a wrap (114,012) by Zachariah from Croatia
Amen to that. A little drama can make even a puddle look deep.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 18:05)
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It's a wrap (114,011) by MusicfanJ from Germany
That was on point. I agree with all three mentioned points. I read all the other views about Mariah's acting and possibly new roles. Personally I'm not so interested in new movie roles played by Mariah. She did it and it was okay. Some were good, some were not needed (that Zohan comedy movie, I even went to cinema for it) lol. I'll always prefer music from her. But in 97-99 she could have been a real Bond girl. "Honey" was showing it.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 17:36)
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It's a wrap (114,010) by Edward from USA
Remember that some lambs love the drama of pretending they're drowning in a glass of water.

The facts: Mariah is a legendary musician.

The fiction: There is a brilliant, dormant actress inside of her just begging to be awakened.

The delusion: Tommy is the sole reason she doesn't have an "Oscar-winning acting career".
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 16:43)
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It's a wrap (114,009) by Zachariah from Croatia
Nobody's maligning you. We just upgraded "maybe she has some untapped potential" into the equally radical position of "maybe she doesn't". You're accusing people of misrepresenting your point while dramatically turning disagreement into a coordinated attack on your worldview. That's a lot of mileage from a Mariah Carey acting discussion. Disagreeing with your assessment of an actress isn't a worldview. It's called having a different assessment of an actress. The irony of accusing people of misrepresenting your point while turning simple disagreement into a battle over your worldview is pretty hard to miss.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 15:08)
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It's a wrap (114,008) by TheButterflyReturns from United States
I never said she's the next great phenomenal actress. All I said is that maybe there is some untapped potential there and that it's something Mariah could try again to get herself out of the rut she's in.

I swear some of you people are so argumentative and catty and want to misrepresent or malign people who post something that even slightly challenges your worldview.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 12:35)
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The perfect role (114,007) by Lambi from USA
The thing is my pitch would be easy for MC. She already knows the struggle of a singing single mom via Patricia. She also know what it's like to be a "has been" and she's got a such a great sense of humor. This would just be her coming back to being little Mirage in middle school coping with only having 3 shirts on rotation by being a hilarious class clown. The material is make or break for acting, it needs to be right and she would just be a natural in comedy.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 12:09)
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The perfect role (114,006) by nancy from Switzerland
I could see MC in little guest roles. Where she can play a hairdresser, a beautician, or an office worker where she can sit and stand still. But I don't see her in dynamic roles, where she has to walk and run. I also agree that she has to know the part by heart. And that could be difficult for her. Punctuality on the set is also crucial. No one wants to wait for a mediocre actress with difficult personality who has always demands and wants a high salary.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 11:28)
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The perfect role (114,005) by Lainsky from Philippines
If Mariah goes back into acting, a comedy or drama-dy is the genre that could fit her mediocre ability and personality. She's witty and funny. It might work. However, if she's really interested in acting, she can go to an acting workshop. I believe it would not be that hard. As a singer, she draws from her emotions; acting demands emotional depth to make performances believable and impactful for viewers.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 05:17)
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