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Anther correction (114,767) by Rose from United States Giving Me Life not Bringing Me to Life. In the last paragraph. Sorry. (Monday 26 October 2026; 03:41)

The girl we fell in love with, the woman she became (114,766) by Rose from United States I’ve been thinking about the girl-next-door Mariah from her debut until about Glitter. Glitter must have been a much harder time for her than we can imagine because she went through a major death and rebirth. She was in her early 30s around the time of Glitter and Charmbracelet, so it makes sense that she would outgrow that girl anyway. But the ego death she experienced around that time made it even more intense. After that experience, she had to reinvent herself and Phoenix even harder than she would have had to otherwise. At the beginning, she was curated into the pop princess the machine knew we wanted. Everything about her was manicured and perfect. It worked because we loved it. We ate it up. . We’re still in love with that girl we fell in love with back then, almost 40 years later. But that wasn’t entirely who she was. It was the surface of who she was, so it wasn’t fake, but it wasn’t everything. If you look at old pictures of her before she was famous, she always liked to dress sexy. Like you said, she’s one of those people who don’t need to try because it’s in their aura. Her sensual vibe was always going to shine through, no matter what she wore. But she likes to dress sexy. I mean, she loves Marilyn Monroe, the ultimate sex symbol/goddess. And why is that wrong? Why do we make it wrong? None of us are the same person we were when we were 20, 32, 41, 55, 73, or 90. Our life experiences change us. It makes sense that she would adopt the Ginger persona. When she was little, she used to watch reruns of Gilligan’s Island like the rest of us. As a little girl, I wanted to be Ginger too, so I can relate. Ginger was like a living Barbie doll. She had the most beautiful clothes, and all the men swooned over her. She was mesmerizing. After feeling controlled and managed by her career for so long, Mariah went through a period of trying to find herself again. She wanted to be young, free, and sexy, and in hindsight, I love that for her. At the time, it was a little jarring and confusing for me that the media turned against her because she had always been their sweetheart. If we felt that way, imagine how she felt? Probably like the plane was going down fast. I look back at the publicity and songs and music videos Jennifer Lopez was getting back then. It made me see how having all the support and talented people on your side really does help a ton. When I see Jennifer Lopez in her Fly Girl days, I don’t think she was extraordinarily special. They made her extraordinarily special. When you have an above-average physical package and then get the best makeup people, hair extensions, videographers, designers, publicists, label plugs with connections who want to make you the next big thing, and talented people writing your songs and singing them for you, that helps. That matters. Jennifer was wearing revealing clothes too, but the marketing was on her side. So it was okay for her, but Mariah was labeled “slutty” and “crazy. ” Mariah was blessed with beauty, so we do admire that about her. But when we look at Mariah’s actual art, her voice and her music, it’s always been great. Mariah’s music has never disappointed me. It has evolved, but art is supposed to. I didn’t understand Butterfly when it first came out. I wanted something that was more easily digestible. I was young. But then I grew up, and when I finally got it, I REALLY got it. I love that she’s the Queen of Christmas. I love Mariah memes. I love memes in general. I don’t love tabloids, but it’s not like she’s going after them, asking them to write scandalous stories about her. The tabloid thing can’t be blamed on her. Famous people will always be targeted by the tabloids, and it’s up to the public to choose whether to pay attention to that or not. Also, another thought I just had: Why are men (and some women) so threatened by women who wear sexy clothes? In my opinion, it’s mostly men who want to control women and shame us into submission. It’s a different thing when it’s young women whose bodies are being exploited by older men. I’m not okay with that. But if it’s a 30-year-old woman wearing short shorts and a tube top in the summertime because it’s hot outside and she wants to feel unrestricted and comfortable, and it’s her own choice, I don’t think that judgment is warranted. Take Tate McRae, for example. She’s always scantily clad, but she’s a trained dancer, so that’s the kind of stuff she’s used to wearing. She looks comfortable, and it seems like it’s her own choice. So I don’t have a problem with her nakedness. (On a side note, I really love her and her personality, and I hope she has a long and prosperous career. ) Shakira has always seemed comfortable in her sexiness and her body too. But there are some artists where it doesn’t look comfortable or natural. It looks like they’re doing it because someone else told them to or suggested it. I don’t like that. The Loverboy remix and the abundance of guest artists: I think it works. If you didn’t like it, it’s probably because you don’t like rap music, and that’s okay. That’s why she has a version without the rappers. This just occurred to me: I think that’s why she makes the joke in Glitter about getting rid of the “superfluous shit. ” She knew what some people would say. Ha ha. Honestly, I’m not super into rap music either. I mostly only know the huge hits and what Mariah has shared with the world. The emphasis on attitude and the argument that the music became more disposable and less emotionally meaningful than her earlier work: She has deep, emotional tracks on all her albums, so I’m not sure why you say this. Historically, she’s had fun songs that are usually the main single. Fantasy, Dreamlover, and Heartbreaker weren’t deep or emotional either. They’re on the same level as Loverboy, Obsessed, and #Beautiful. On that note, I wanted to share something. I was watching Mariah Carey interview videos on YouTube while I was cleaning my house. A video came up where these guys were comparing Mary J. Blige, Janet, Whitney, and Mariah. One of the men had the nerve to put Mariah Carey at the bottom. . He said Mariah Carey is a singles/hit artist and doesn’t have any albums that are good as a whole. Tell me you’ve never listened to an entire Mariah Carey album without telling me you’ve never listened to an entire Mariah Carey album. . And a lot of people think this. . I was talking to a girl at my old job, and we were talking about our favorite artists. I said Mariah Carey. She made a face and said, “Oh no, not her. ” WTF. I was so shocked because this girl, my ex-coworker, is the coolest, most nonjudgmental person ever. It got me thinking that this narrative against Mariah runs deep, and it’s going to continue if something isn’t done. If you watch old interviews, she was so happy, confident, and free, and now she’s like a puppy that’s been abused. The media has been abusive to Mariah, so I understand it. She always has to be careful about what she says because everything can be twisted to fit a narrative. She probably wonders if it’s even worth it and checks out. I’m sure she only goes through with it partly because she knows there are some of us who still love her. And I feel like she still has hope that things will turn around and people will appreciate her creations again. On that YouTube clip I watched, one of the other guys told the naysayer that Mariah has a lot of good songs that have never been heard and that she wasn’t at the bottom. The older guy told him he really didn’t believe that. He wouldn’t even let him have his own opinion. Oh, and the guy just got up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the conversation and told everyone. It was a short clip, like 10 minutes, and I can’t find it now, but I wish I could so I could share it with you guys. To the guy who defended Mariah: I wish all the good things for you, sir. May both sides of your pillow always stay cool, and I pray you have more abundance and good fortune than you could ever imagine. The only thing I remember is that it was four Black men, and one was called Joe Budden. (I remember because it sounds like Joe Biden.) Anyway, Mariah has lots of good songs that are unheard of by anyone but fans. While I’ve been responding to this post, I’ve had a Mariah playlist of all her songs playing in the background, and every song has been a banger. Impossible. So Blessed. Yours. You Need Me. Where I Belong. Bringing Me Life. I am Free, I Wish You Well, You Don’t Know What to Do. My point is, she’s still great. She needs better marketing. (Monday 26 October 2026; 02:47)

Mariah Carey: why I miss the artist she used to be (114,765) by BFF from US I certainly believe Mariah's account of how stifled she felt in the early period of her career, how Tommy made life hard for her on Sony after the divorce, and how he worked to sabotage "Glitter". But I do agree that Mariah took it too far in terms of some of the changes she made in "rebellion" against Tommy. For example, we didn't need four guest rappers on the "Loverboy" remix. The "Firecracker" version would have worked so much better than the "Candy" version in terms of securing a hit and building momentum for the soundtrack. It's a shame that Tommy sabotaged her on that record. The final product of the movie wasn't great and didn't represent Mariah's original vision but at least the project could have been redeemed by the music. I think the "Butterfly" album struck the correct balance between her early days and cultivating a new audience. She could have easily stayed in that lane. But post-1998, she veered way too far in an alternate direction that shifted the focus away from her voice, her songwriting, etc. And she stopped taking proper care of her voice. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 22:02) this is a reply to message 114,763

Mariah Carey: why I miss the artist she used to be (114,763) by karel from belgie I was a Mariah Carey fan for what many would call the "Classic Mariah" era. When I think of Mariah Carey, I don't immediately think of Christmas. I don't think of tabloid headlines. I don't think of viral memes, diva moments, or the annual return of All I Want for Christmas Is You. I think of Hero. I think of Dreamlover. I think of Fantasy. I think of Always Be My Baby. I think of Anytime You Need a Friend. Even the B-sides or the rarities. Those songs represent the Mariah Carey I fell in love with as an artist. Not because they were perfect, but because they reflected a rare combination of talent, authenticity, elegance, and accessibility. Looking back, one of the most remarkable things about Mariah's early career was how naturally everything seemed to fit together. The voice was extraordinary, but it never felt like she needed to constantly remind people of that fact. The image was attractive, but it never felt like the image was the product. People often talk about how Tommy Mottola supposedly prevented Mariah from expressing her sexuality. I have always felt that discussion misses an important point. Mariah had already proven she could be sexy. The difference was that she was also classy. Look at Dreamlover. She spends much of the video wearing a plaid flannel shirt and denim shorts. It sounds incredibly ordinary on paper, yet she radiates charm and confidence. Look at Always Be My Baby. To this day, I consider it one of the most effortlessly attractive music videos ever made. She is barefoot on a tire swing above a pond, running her fingers through the water, wearing fitted jeans and a casually unbuttoned blue shirt. There is nothing provocative about it, yet everything about it feels authentic and appealing. That was Mariah's gift. She never needed to try too hard. Even songs like Fantasy, Anytime You Need a Friend, I Still Believe, and All I Want for Christmas Is You projected the same energy. These were upbeat, positive, feel-good songs, but they were never cheap. She looked beautiful without looking manufactured. Attractive without appearing desperate for attention. Most importantly, the music remained the focus. Then something changed. I understand why many fans celebrate Mariah's post-1997 liberation. I understand why people see it as her finally taking control of her own image and career. There is certainly truth in that. But as someone who loved Classic Mariah, I can't help feeling that something valuable was lost in the process. For me, Loverboy was the turning point. Ironically, I actually like the original Firecracker version. It is festive, upbeat, and feel-good track from that period. The remix, however, represents much of what started to frustrate me. Too many guest artists. Too much focus on attitude. Too much emphasis on creating a trend rather than creating a timeless record. Even lyrically, it felt like a step backwards. Compare Loverboy to Hero. Compare it to Always Be My Baby. Compare it to Anytime You Need a Friend. The difference is impossible to ignore. The songs that once balanced commercial appeal with emotional depth were increasingly replaced by music that felt more disposable. The image evolved as well. Again, my criticism has never been that Mariah became sexier. She had always been sexy. My criticism is that the elegance gradually disappeared. The Mariah who once stood performing Hero in a simple black dress increasingly gave way to an image that felt less timeless and more tied to the excesses of its era. Whether that was bandanas, ultra-revealing outfits, or increasingly image-driven videos, I found myself paying more attention to the presentation and less to the music. And I don't believe I was alone. One uncomfortable truth that many fans refuse to acknowledge is that a significant number of casual listeners gradually developed a negative perception of Mariah during those years. Not because of her talent, but because the image often overshadowed it. As a result, one of the most gifted vocalists of her generation was increasingly judged through a lens that had very little to do with her actual abilities. Then came 2005. And to her immense credit, Mariah delivered one of the greatest comeback albums in pop history. The Emancipation of Mimi reminded the world that she was still capable of great songs. The lyrics improved. The songwriting improved. The balance between glamour and artistry improved. For a moment, it felt as though she had rediscovered part of what made her special. But even then, I never felt that the effortless elegance of the early years fully returned. At the same time, her voice was beginning to change. That is not a criticism. Every singer ages. The problem was that the conversation increasingly shifted from celebrating her voice to questioning it. Live performances became less consistent. The woman who once seemed capable of anything vocally now appeared to be in an ongoing battle with the expectations created by her own legendary standards. I remained a fan for many years. But somewhere around 2016, I realised something uncomfortable. I was no longer a fan of the current Mariah Carey. I was a fan of the Mariah Carey I remembered. The artist I admired was the one who recorded Hero. The one who sang Anytime You Need a Friend. The one who created the magical optimism of Fantasy and the emotional maturity of Always Be My Baby. Today, what saddens me most is not that Mariah Carey changed. Every artist changes. What saddens me is how much of her legacy has been reduced. Every December, the world celebrates All I Want for Christmas Is You. It is an incredible achievement and one she absolutely deserves. But I sometimes wonder whether newer generations realize who she was before that song became a cultural phenomenon. Mariah Carey should not primarily be remembered as "the Christmas lady." She should be remembered as one of the greatest vocalists in popular music history. She should be remembered for redefining vocal standards in pop music. She should be remembered for Vision of Love, Hero, Fantasy, Dreamlover, Always Be My Baby, Anytime You Need a Friend, and dozens of other songs that showcased extraordinary talent, songwriting, and emotional intelligence. Perhaps that is why I still revisit the Classic Mariah era so often. Not because I am trapped in nostalgia. But because that era reminds me of an artist who achieved something extraordinarily difficult: she made elegance seem effortless, sexiness seem natural, and greatness seem completely normal. And for a while, nobody did it better. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 20:30)

Glitter (114,764) by Bobby A from United States I don't think MC will disappoint us based upon her Loverboy video she posted today. She has really been promoting the Glitter25 anniversary. I feel that is why her Spotify numbers have increased during these past two months and because of DWTS as well. I anticipate huge chart positions and sales numbers for individual songs and the Glitter album starting Friday. In the video, she looks 35 years old and like a model in the video. Does MC [wear] hair extensions? (Sunday 25 October 2026; 21:50) this is a reply to message 114,762

Glitter (114,762) by Edward from USA I'm not setting my expectations too high. When artists talk about outtakes, they usually mean different versions of songs we already know. I was hoping we'd get some completely new songs, but I'm not holding my breath. But let's see what we get. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 19:46)

Mariah Carey: why I miss the artist she used to be (114,763) by karel from belgie I was a Mariah Carey fan for what many would call the "Classic Mariah" era. When I think of Mariah Carey, I don't immediately think of Christmas. I don't think of tabloid headlines. I don't think of viral memes, diva moments, or the annual return of All I Want for Christmas Is You. I think of Hero. I think of Dreamlover. I think of Fantasy. I think of Always Be My Baby. I think of Anytime You Need a Friend. Even the B-sides or the rarities. Those songs represent the Mariah Carey I fell in love with as an artist. Not because they were perfect, but because they reflected a rare combination of talent, authenticity, elegance, and accessibility. Looking back, one of the most remarkable things about Mariah's early career was how naturally everything seemed to fit together. The voice was extraordinary, but it never felt like she needed to constantly remind people of that fact. The image was attractive, but it never felt like the image was the product. People often talk about how Tommy Mottola supposedly prevented Mariah from expressing her sexuality. I have always felt that discussion misses an important point. Mariah had already proven she could be sexy. The difference was that she was also classy. Look at Dreamlover. She spends much of the video wearing a plaid flannel shirt and denim shorts. It sounds incredibly ordinary on paper, yet she radiates charm and confidence. Look at Always Be My Baby. To this day, I consider it one of the most effortlessly attractive music videos ever made. She is barefoot on a tire swing above a pond, running her fingers through the water, wearing fitted jeans and a casually unbuttoned blue shirt. There is nothing provocative about it, yet everything about it feels authentic and appealing. That was Mariah's gift. She never needed to try too hard. Even songs like Fantasy, Anytime You Need a Friend, I Still Believe, and All I Want for Christmas Is You projected the same energy. These were upbeat, positive, feel-good songs, but they were never cheap. She looked beautiful without looking manufactured. Attractive without appearing desperate for attention. Most importantly, the music remained the focus. Then something changed. I understand why many fans celebrate Mariah's post-1997 liberation. I understand why people see it as her finally taking control of her own image and career. There is certainly truth in that. But as someone who loved Classic Mariah, I can't help feeling that something valuable was lost in the process. For me, Loverboy was the turning point. Ironically, I actually like the original Firecracker version. It is festive, upbeat, and feel-good track from that period. The remix, however, represents much of what started to frustrate me. Too many guest artists. Too much focus on attitude. Too much emphasis on creating a trend rather than creating a timeless record. Even lyrically, it felt like a step backwards. Compare Loverboy to Hero. Compare it to Always Be My Baby. Compare it to Anytime You Need a Friend. The difference is impossible to ignore. The songs that once balanced commercial appeal with emotional depth were increasingly replaced by music that felt more disposable. The image evolved as well. Again, my criticism has never been that Mariah became sexier. She had always been sexy. My criticism is that the elegance gradually disappeared. The Mariah who once stood performing Hero in a simple black dress increasingly gave way to an image that felt less timeless and more tied to the excesses of its era. Whether that was bandanas, ultra-revealing outfits, or increasingly image-driven videos, I found myself paying more attention to the presentation and less to the music. And I don't believe I was alone. One uncomfortable truth that many fans refuse to acknowledge is that a significant number of casual listeners gradually developed a negative perception of Mariah during those years. Not because of her talent, but because the image often overshadowed it. As a result, one of the most gifted vocalists of her generation was increasingly judged through a lens that had very little to do with her actual abilities. Then came 2005. And to her immense credit, Mariah delivered one of the greatest comeback albums in pop history. The Emancipation of Mimi reminded the world that she was still capable of great songs. The lyrics improved. The songwriting improved. The balance between glamour and artistry improved. For a moment, it felt as though she had rediscovered part of what made her special. But even then, I never felt that the effortless elegance of the early years fully returned. At the same time, her voice was beginning to change. That is not a criticism. Every singer ages. The problem was that the conversation increasingly shifted from celebrating her voice to questioning it. Live performances became less consistent. The woman who once seemed capable of anything vocally now appeared to be in an ongoing battle with the expectations created by her own legendary standards. I remained a fan for many years. But somewhere around 2016, I realised something uncomfortable. I was no longer a fan of the current Mariah Carey. I was a fan of the Mariah Carey I remembered. The artist I admired was the one who recorded Hero. The one who sang Anytime You Need a Friend. The one who created the magical optimism of Fantasy and the emotional maturity of Always Be My Baby. Today, what saddens me most is not that Mariah Carey changed. Every artist changes. What saddens me is how much of her legacy has been reduced. Every December, the world celebrates All I Want for Christmas Is You. It is an incredible achievement and one she absolutely deserves. But I sometimes wonder whether newer generations realize who she was before that song became a cultural phenomenon. Mariah Carey should not primarily be remembered as "the Christmas lady." She should be remembered as one of the greatest vocalists in popular music history. She should be remembered for redefining vocal standards in pop music. She should be remembered for Vision of Love, Hero, Fantasy, Dreamlover, Always Be My Baby, Anytime You Need a Friend, and dozens of other songs that showcased extraordinary talent, songwriting, and emotional intelligence. Perhaps that is why I still revisit the Classic Mariah era so often. Not because I am trapped in nostalgia. But because that era reminds me of an artist who achieved something extraordinarily difficult: she made elegance seem effortless, sexiness seem natural, and greatness seem completely normal. And for a while, nobody did it better. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 20:30)

Glitter (114,762) by Edward from USA I'm not setting my expectations too high. When artists talk about outtakes, they usually mean different versions of songs we already know. I was hoping we'd get some completely new songs, but I'm not holding my breath. But let's see what we get. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 19:46) this is a reply to message 114,750

Glitter (114,750) by Jamie from UK So the first 6 tracks from disc 2 have been revealed. 1. Out Here On My Own 2. Never Too Far / Hero (Medley) 3. Loverboy (Firecracker - Original Version) 4. All My Life (Channel Tres Remix) 5. Didn't Mean To Turn You On (with Rochelle Jordan) 6. Loverboy (MJ Cole Remix) I hope there are more unknown tracks apart from the new mixes. I already had all those songs so I'm hoping for some surprises. I don't get why they don't just release all the track list at once (Saturday 24 October 2026; 20:47)

Vanity project: Mimi's mashups (114,761) by John from USA It's time for Mariah to pick up her phone, and call on a bunch of other artists old and new. Time to find songs with compatible themes, chord progression, and beats, and mash them up. Maybe in the process, some rewriting to unify the songs in a perfect mash up, or re-sing some phrases and add combined voices in a duet. I don't know if anything like this has ever been done before, but if someone can do it, Mariah (the old driven one, at least) could do it. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 18:45)

Milan, Italy videos (114,760) by Bobby A from United States Actually, the Milan Fashion Week was September 22-28. MC's selfie was posted on October 7th. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 17:56) this is a reply to message 114,759

Milan, Italy videos (114,759) by nancy from Switzerland I guess Mariah was not in Milan for surgery, neither vocal coaching. The world Vogue fashion event took place in Milan around this time. Many artists performed there. Maybe she was just there to see the Caltwalk and meet designers like Donatella Versace. She combined the trip with art this time. J.Lo was also at the World vogue. I am pretty sure they still don't know each other. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 11:00)

Milan, Italy videos (114,759) by nancy from Switzerland I guess Mariah was not in Milan for surgery, neither vocal coaching. The world Vogue fashion event took place in Milan around this time. Many artists performed there. Maybe she was just there to see the Caltwalk and meet designers like Donatella Versace. She combined the trip with art this time. J.Lo was also at the World vogue. I am pretty sure they still don't know each other. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 11:00) this is a reply to message 114,752

Milan, Italy videos (114,752) by Bobby A from United States Is it just me thinking that MC's recent social media video standing in front of the Last Supper painting was her giving the Lambs a sign that she was in Milan for vocal surgery or vocal coaching. Her picture was very peculiar and unlike MC to do. I say this because her voice message today about unearthed Glitter 25 vocal takes are on the way revealed a very different sounding MC. Her speaking voice to me sounded more huskier in tone and timbre. I am just praying this is true because we all know how much she wants her vocal abilities to return. Plus, MC never sounds the same from one album to the next one. Also, I find it odd that she is only doing three Europe Christmas shows this year. It is like she wants to save her voice for recording MC17. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 00:55)

Glitter (114,758) by Bobby A from United States Tracks 7-15 have to be earth shattering based upon my analysis MC's voice message yesterday. She was told not to give away too much as to what they have in store for Glitter25. I guess UMG doesn't want certain songs to leak or Youtubers to post their own fake AI songs or vocal takes before October 30. Plus, they might have secured a Spotify promotional plan or other physical variants could be on the way too. I think this wait has been longer than waiting for The Rairities tracklist. Lol. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 09:38) this is a reply to message 114,750

Glitter (114,750) by Jamie from UK So the first 6 tracks from disc 2 have been revealed. 1. Out Here On My Own 2. Never Too Far / Hero (Medley) 3. Loverboy (Firecracker - Original Version) 4. All My Life (Channel Tres Remix) 5. Didn't Mean To Turn You On (with Rochelle Jordan) 6. Loverboy (MJ Cole Remix) I hope there are more unknown tracks apart from the new mixes. I already had all those songs so I'm hoping for some surprises. I don't get why they don't just release all the track list at once (Saturday 24 October 2026; 20:47)

HFIA (114,757) by Rose from United States Maybe you’re right. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 08:18) this is a reply to message 114,749

HFIA (114,749) by Edward from USA That sounds good on paper, but we're talking about Mariah Carey here. An ultra wealthy superstar using college kids for cheap labor under the guise of giving them an "opportunity" would be a PR nightmare. People would drag her mercilessly for making millions while paying students pennies. Public opinion would have her heading straight to the guillotine. Believe me, if Mariah genuinely thought throwing another million or two into a project would make a difference, she would find the money and invest it herself. She's done it before. The issue is that at some point, you have to look at the numbers and decide whether the investment is actually worth it. You can't keep throwing money at a project indefinitely just because you're hoping it'll eventually pay off. (Saturday 24 October 2026; 20:11)

Milan, Italy videos (114,756) by TJ from Norway Or maybe The Last Supper is her way to say, I'm done. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 07:21) this is a reply to message 114,752

Milan, Italy videos (114,752) by Bobby A from United States Is it just me thinking that MC's recent social media video standing in front of the Last Supper painting was her giving the Lambs a sign that she was in Milan for vocal surgery or vocal coaching. Her picture was very peculiar and unlike MC to do. I say this because her voice message today about unearthed Glitter 25 vocal takes are on the way revealed a very different sounding MC. Her speaking voice to me sounded more huskier in tone and timbre. I am just praying this is true because we all know how much she wants her vocal abilities to return. Plus, MC never sounds the same from one album to the next one. Also, I find it odd that she is only doing three Europe Christmas shows this year. It is like she wants to save her voice for recording MC17. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 00:55)

Article: Mariah Carey teases unearthed vocal takes (114,755) by Lainsky from Philippines Again, let's all hope that at least some of those unearthed vocal takes are new tracks. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 06:47)

Glitter (114,754) by Lainsky from Philippines Basically, we already have half of the list, while the other half has been released. So, yes, let's hope there are a few unknown, unreleased tracks. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 06:45) this is a reply to message 114,750

Glitter (114,750) by Jamie from UK So the first 6 tracks from disc 2 have been revealed. 1. Out Here On My Own 2. Never Too Far / Hero (Medley) 3. Loverboy (Firecracker - Original Version) 4. All My Life (Channel Tres Remix) 5. Didn't Mean To Turn You On (with Rochelle Jordan) 6. Loverboy (MJ Cole Remix) I hope there are more unknown tracks apart from the new mixes. I already had all those songs so I'm hoping for some surprises. I don't get why they don't just release all the track list at once (Saturday 24 October 2026; 20:47)

Glitter (114,753) by TJ from Norway They are making the songs as we speak. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 06:37) this is a reply to message 114,750

Glitter (114,750) by Jamie from UK So the first 6 tracks from disc 2 have been revealed. 1. Out Here On My Own 2. Never Too Far / Hero (Medley) 3. Loverboy (Firecracker - Original Version) 4. All My Life (Channel Tres Remix) 5. Didn't Mean To Turn You On (with Rochelle Jordan) 6. Loverboy (MJ Cole Remix) I hope there are more unknown tracks apart from the new mixes. I already had all those songs so I'm hoping for some surprises. I don't get why they don't just release all the track list at once (Saturday 24 October 2026; 20:47)

Milan, Italy videos (114,752) by Bobby A from United States Is it just me thinking that MC's recent social media video standing in front of the Last Supper painting was her giving the Lambs a sign that she was in Milan for vocal surgery or vocal coaching. Her picture was very peculiar and unlike MC to do. I say this because her voice message today about unearthed Glitter 25 vocal takes are on the way revealed a very different sounding MC. Her speaking voice to me sounded more huskier in tone and timbre. I am just praying this is true because we all know how much she wants her vocal abilities to return. Plus, MC never sounds the same from one album to the next one. Also, I find it odd that she is only doing three Europe Christmas shows this year. It is like she wants to save her voice for recording MC17. (Sunday 25 October 2026; 00:55)

HFIA (114,751) by Bobby A from United States You're right. I guess the disagreement that Larry Jackson and MC had was about releasing a deluxe edition for an album that sold poorly. Hopefully, MC17 will be MC's second comeback album. I know The-Dream, Tricky Stewart, and others brought in during the final months of recording will deliver some hits next year for MC. The trajectory of MC17 is destined to be better than HFIA. I just feel it. We all know MC17 will be her last chance for a Hot 100 Top 10 hit. (Saturday 24 October 2026; 21:21) this is a reply to message 114,744

HFIA (114,744) by Edward from USA And where was all that money supposed to come from, Mariah's personal bank account? You wouldn't keep pouring water into a bottomless pit and expect it to fill up, would you? I think the promotional campaign leading up to "HFIA" was great. Mariah was everywhere, and there was clearly an effort to generate interest in the album. Unfortunately, the debut numbers didn't justify continuing to pour more money into a project that was out of the Hot 100 in its second week. At the end of the day, it is business, not charity. A fecent music video, radio promotion, and a cosmetic brand endorsement all sound great in theory, but who exactly was going to pay for all of that, and would the investment have actually translated into sales or streams? As fans, it's easy for us to come up with ideas after the fact when we're not the ones footing the bill. (Friday 23 October 2026; 14:55)

Glitter (114,750) by Jamie from UK So the first 6 tracks from disc 2 have been revealed. 1. Out Here On My Own 2. Never Too Far / Hero (Medley) 3. Loverboy (Firecracker - Original Version) 4. All My Life (Channel Tres Remix) 5. Didn't Mean To Turn You On (with Rochelle Jordan) 6. Loverboy (MJ Cole Remix) I hope there are more unknown tracks apart from the new mixes. I already had all those songs so I'm hoping for some surprises. I don't get why they don't just release all the track list at once (Saturday 24 October 2026; 20:47)

HFIA (114,749) by Edward from USA That sounds good on paper, but we're talking about Mariah Carey here. An ultra wealthy superstar using college kids for cheap labor under the guise of giving them an "opportunity" would be a PR nightmare. People would drag her mercilessly for making millions while paying students pennies. Public opinion would have her heading straight to the guillotine. Believe me, if Mariah genuinely thought throwing another million or two into a project would make a difference, she would find the money and invest it herself. She's done it before. The issue is that at some point, you have to look at the numbers and decide whether the investment is actually worth it. You can't keep throwing money at a project indefinitely just because you're hoping it'll eventually pay off. (Saturday 24 October 2026; 20:11) this is a reply to message 114,746

HFIA (114,746) by Rose from United States A lot of times we pay for experience and skill, and that is valuable. But sometimes we can find people who have natural talent who won't charge a fortune because they're just getting started. A lot of the expensive music video producers charge a small fortune because they've already made it and have to maintain their expensive lifestyles. I'm not saying they're not worth it. These days, you pretty much need to be independently wealthy to even try to be any kind of artist. The equipment used to make good art is not cheap. When I was young, I used to play the flute, and I had to stop because we couldn't afford to rent it anymore. I'm not saying I was ever going to be a famous flutist, but it was a hobby I enjoyed. It makes me wonder about the kids who actually do have natural talent that never gets the chance to grow and develop. To be able to afford another video, they could go to an art school and ask the professor if there are any promising students. They could let them borrow equipment, have them come up with a concept, and make a rough demo. Whoever wins gets to make a low-budget video. The top candidates could win a $1,000 cash prize, and the winner could get more. It still wouldn't cost nearly as much as hiring a more established and experienced artist. I'm not even thinking top-tier schools, either. I'm thinking community colleges. That would be life-changing money for some people. They could invest it into buying equipment that would support and nurture their talent. I know experience and skill do matter, and a lot of times that's what we pay for. But there are rare gems who are naturally gifted. We've all witnessed them. We're in a timeline where money can't be our main focus right now. She has made a lot of money off the people and could use this as an opportunity to give back. (Saturday 24 October 2026; 03:07)

More thoughts about this (114,748) by MusicfanJ from Germany Bambi vibe. I love it. "Early Mariah had a combination of innocence, vulnerability, sweetness, and quiet sensuality. She looked doe-eyed in interviews, then she'd sing those impossible notes like it was easy. Like a goddess." Absolutely, she was simply the best. That combination made her so special and loveable. Alfter Glitter it went too much into the diva direction. But that's just my personal view. I always loved the more natural Mariah. I have to google the woman you mentioned for playing Mariah, I've never heard of her. I have a feeling there won't be a bio-pic about MC, not so soon. (Saturday 24 October 2026; 14:17) this is a reply to message 114,745

More thoughts about this (114,745) by Rose from United States Whoever gets chosen to play Mariah in a movie would have to lip-sync. No one should even attempt to sing like Mariah. The reason I like Victoria Justice is because her cheekbones remind me of her, and she has that Bambi vibe Mariah had from her debut album up until Glitter. After that, the glamorous persona (Ginger) came out, and we never saw the girl-next-door again. Early Mariah had a combination of innocence, vulnerability, sweetness, and quiet sensuality. She looked doe-eyed in interviews, then she'd sing those impossible notes like it was easy. Like a Goddess. Whoever plays her would have to nail Mariah's mannerisms: the shy little smiles, the way she laughs when she's being cheeky, the hand gestures, and her slightly awkward, girlish humor. The voice can be dubbed, but the personality has to feel real. Who do you guys think could play her? Also, Keke Palmer could play Whitney in the MC biopic. She captures her essence. I've read other people say Keke should play Whitney in a biopic about Whitney but I think she could play Whitney in Mariah's biopic too. (Friday 23 October 2026; 15:57)

More thoughts about this (114,747) by Chicago Lamb from USA Absolutely I do not want to hear anyone's voice but Mariah's in a biopic. They must use the album and or live/outtake tracks. (Saturday 24 October 2026; 13:55) this is a reply to message 114,745

More thoughts about this (114,745) by Rose from United States Whoever gets chosen to play Mariah in a movie would have to lip-sync. No one should even attempt to sing like Mariah. The reason I like Victoria Justice is because her cheekbones remind me of her, and she has that Bambi vibe Mariah had from her debut album up until Glitter. After that, the glamorous persona (Ginger) came out, and we never saw the girl-next-door again. Early Mariah had a combination of innocence, vulnerability, sweetness, and quiet sensuality. She looked doe-eyed in interviews, then she'd sing those impossible notes like it was easy. Like a Goddess. Whoever plays her would have to nail Mariah's mannerisms: the shy little smiles, the way she laughs when she's being cheeky, the hand gestures, and her slightly awkward, girlish humor. The voice can be dubbed, but the personality has to feel real. Who do you guys think could play her? Also, Keke Palmer could play Whitney in the MC biopic. She captures her essence. I've read other people say Keke should play Whitney in a biopic about Whitney but I think she could play Whitney in Mariah's biopic too. (Friday 23 October 2026; 15:57)

HFIA (114,746) by Rose from United States A lot of times we pay for experience and skill, and that is valuable. But sometimes we can find people who have natural talent who won't charge a fortune because they're just getting started. A lot of the expensive music video producers charge a small fortune because they've already made it and have to maintain their expensive lifestyles. I'm not saying they're not worth it. These days, you pretty much need to be independently wealthy to even try to be any kind of artist. The equipment used to make good art is not cheap. When I was young, I used to play the flute, and I had to stop because we couldn't afford to rent it anymore. I'm not saying I was ever going to be a famous flutist, but it was a hobby I enjoyed. It makes me wonder about the kids who actually do have natural talent that never gets the chance to grow and develop. To be able to afford another video, they could go to an art school and ask the professor if there are any promising students. They could let them borrow equipment, have them come up with a concept, and make a rough demo. Whoever wins gets to make a low-budget video. The top candidates could win a $1,000 cash prize, and the winner could get more. It still wouldn't cost nearly as much as hiring a more established and experienced artist. I'm not even thinking top-tier schools, either. I'm thinking community colleges. That would be life-changing money for some people. They could invest it into buying equipment that would support and nurture their talent. I know experience and skill do matter, and a lot of times that's what we pay for. But there are rare gems who are naturally gifted. We've all witnessed them. We're in a timeline where money can't be our main focus right now. She has made a lot of money off the people and could use this as an opportunity to give back. (Saturday 24 October 2026; 03:07) this is a reply to message 114,744

HFIA (114,744) by Edward from USA And where was all that money supposed to come from, Mariah's personal bank account? You wouldn't keep pouring water into a bottomless pit and expect it to fill up, would you? I think the promotional campaign leading up to "HFIA" was great. Mariah was everywhere, and there was clearly an effort to generate interest in the album. Unfortunately, the debut numbers didn't justify continuing to pour more money into a project that was out of the Hot 100 in its second week. At the end of the day, it is business, not charity. A fecent music video, radio promotion, and a cosmetic brand endorsement all sound great in theory, but who exactly was going to pay for all of that, and would the investment have actually translated into sales or streams? As fans, it's easy for us to come up with ideas after the fact when we're not the ones footing the bill. (Friday 23 October 2026; 14:55)

More thoughts about this (114,745) by Rose from United States Whoever gets chosen to play Mariah in a movie would have to lip-sync. No one should even attempt to sing like Mariah. The reason I like Victoria Justice is because her cheekbones remind me of her, and she has that Bambi vibe Mariah had from her debut album up until Glitter. After that, the glamorous persona (Ginger) came out, and we never saw the girl-next-door again. Early Mariah had a combination of innocence, vulnerability, sweetness, and quiet sensuality. She looked doe-eyed in interviews, then she'd sing those impossible notes like it was easy. Like a Goddess. Whoever plays her would have to nail Mariah's mannerisms: the shy little smiles, the way she laughs when she's being cheeky, the hand gestures, and her slightly awkward, girlish humor. The voice can be dubbed, but the personality has to feel real. Who do you guys think could play her? Also, Keke Palmer could play Whitney in the MC biopic. She captures her essence. I've read other people say Keke should play Whitney in a biopic about Whitney but I think she could play Whitney in Mariah's biopic too. (Friday 23 October 2026; 15:57) this is a reply to message 114,741

Biopic (114,741) by Rose from United States If there were a biopic about Mariah, I think Victoria Justice could do her justice. She's stunning, and I'm surprised she didn't become more famous. She's one of those people I never get tired of looking at when she's on the screen. Her speaking voice isn't as beautiful as Mariah's, not that it's unpleasant. Mariah's speaking voice is celestial. (Friday 23 October 2026; 01:48)

HFIA (114,744) by Edward from USA And where was all that money supposed to come from, Mariah's personal bank account? You wouldn't keep pouring water into a bottomless pit and expect it to fill up, would you? I think the promotional campaign leading up to "HFIA" was great. Mariah was everywhere, and there was clearly an effort to generate interest in the album. Unfortunately, the debut numbers didn't justify continuing to pour more money into a project that was out of the Hot 100 in its second week. At the end of the day, it is business, not charity. A fecent music video, radio promotion, and a cosmetic brand endorsement all sound great in theory, but who exactly was going to pay for all of that, and would the investment have actually translated into sales or streams? As fans, it's easy for us to come up with ideas after the fact when we're not the ones footing the bill. (Friday 23 October 2026; 14:55) this is a reply to message 114,743

HFIA (114,743) by Bobby A from United States Gamma could have promoted Sugar Sweet more after MC was in the kitchen posing as Betty Crocker. Sugar Sweet needed a great video, a iHeart radio every hour radio promotion, and a cosmetic brand endorsement. A smart move could have been to tie the Sugar Sweet video to part two of the #Beautiful video with some acting and a live party performance. (Friday 23 October 2026; 08:43)

HFIA (114,743) by Bobby A from United States Gamma could have promoted Sugar Sweet more after MC was in the kitchen posing as Betty Crocker. Sugar Sweet needed a great video, a iHeart radio every hour radio promotion, and a cosmetic brand endorsement. A smart move could have been to tie the Sugar Sweet video to part two of the #Beautiful video with some acting and a live party performance. (Friday 23 October 2026; 08:43) this is a reply to message 114,739

HFIA (114,739) by Edward from USA Making an album costs money, especially with promotion, music videos, and everything else involved. Based on HFIA's numbers, it probably didn't make sense to keep spending on a project that lost most of its momentum after week one. At some point, you have to look at the return. It's a business. Some people love blaming Gamma for what they did wrong or didn't do, but they need to be realistic. The label can't keep pouring money into a project that isn't bringing in enough to justify more investment. (Thursday 22 October 2026; 17:19)

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