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Interesting video (114,254) by jaker20 from US
"My work is tech." Like most people, it's not 1995.

And why is everything a debate to you, is that what you learned in journalism? I'm not debating, I'm just pointing out that your journalistic career of online-posting is full of inconsistencies.

First you said it was well researched, then you said the clips have been around forever (inconsistency 1), then you said we should thank him for the hard work, then you said the world is full of automated process now (inconsistency 2), then you said it's "organic effort", and then you said "every video editing software has AI features" (inconsistency 3). Then you said it's an honest monologue, then you went on about scaling an online business (how is deepfakes and scraping scraped content honest, you yourself said they're around, he doesn't own them).

Your promo of scraped pseudo journalism is confused.
(Tuesday 21 July 2026; 02:50)
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More depth to the interesting video (114,253) by T from USA
Ok, now we're getting somewhere. I had never put the connection together between leaving James Packer and screwing him out of so much money and the NYE fiasco. It does make perfect sense. She fired back on "Caution" with some pretty stingy songs but maybe he got the last laugh and had her mom and sister killed on the same day. It's been reported he's into some shady things and maybe he knows a lot of dangerous people. I wonder if Mariah feels guilt about that relationship now and all the trauma it's caused thereafter. Maybe hence the medication to cope. Or maybe the people drugging her are part of the conspiracy.
(Tuesday 21 July 2026; 02:39)
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Soulless (114,252) by Edward from USA
That UTS snippet sounds fine, but she looks heavily medicated, with that empty, almost soulless stare. I'm genuinely concerned about her well-being. I hope she's doing okay.
(Tuesday 21 July 2026; 01:23)
More depth to the interesting video (114,251) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
Interesting facts and chronology as well. If we could just get answers straight from Mariah herself. Lol.
(Tuesday 21 July 2026; 00:02)
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More depth to the interesting video (114,250) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
Have you ever considered seeking professional help?
(Monday 20 July 2026; 15:10)
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More depth to the interesting video (114,249) by Lambi from USA
Anyway guys, let me just jog your memory real quick, I wish he actually had gone way deeper on the video essay. I've added more to my timeline:

• January 2016: Mariah and James get engaged.
• September 2016: They break it off.
• October/November 2016: Mariah seeks $50 million.

From this PR response Mariah made in November, you can sense that the legal battle has intensified. I've summarized what she was signaling to James so you don't have to:

• I made a million in 7 minutes, so this $50 million inconvenience fee is more than appropriate.
• I don't know what to do with your 35-carat ring, but I have it and I'm keeping it. Oh wait, I'll put in on my middle finger as a f*** you.
• I'm about to clap back with a new song, Bryan is infinitely cuter than you and no, we are not reconciling.

Then December 2016 NYE comes, we all know what happened. I'm not sure who thought getting involved with a billionaire, especially one who are buddies with powerful political figures (meaning unlimited power), was a good idea.

Another tidbit: Brett Ratner (their mutual) also ended his business partnership with James in April 2017. Subsequently, Brett was faced with allegations of sexual harassment, unwanted sexual advances, and sexual assault. The same playbook seemingly used for Mariah during Stella's era.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 14:47)
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Who is the meanest Pop girl (114,248) by Lambi from USA
Someone wrote, "Mariah is the only one Madonna never ever bothered again." LMAO. She should've just left it at, "Mariah and Whitney are great vocalists." I truly don't know why she had to categorize MC as "homogenous" and as someone who "lacks point of view".

Mariah was still so new and was really just enjoying making music. Going against the grain and hitting political angles tend to happen later in one's career, so I always thought that was a pretty unfair subjection to her.

I wonder if Madonna's comment ever played a part in Mariah even being more sure of moving away from her more generic pop formula. The interview happened in October 95 and was released in January 96, right when she was probably starting Butterfly.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 12:09)
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Daydream 30 (114,247) by Bill from the UK
I do my friend. Chains is one of my most favourite songs ever. I loved it since I first heard it in early 1995 and play it a few times a month ever since that day. Her "Don't Ask" album it stemmed from was great.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 11:07)
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Long Ago and Melt Away a capellas (114,246) by Lainsky from Philippines
Ever since I listened to the a capella versions of these two underrated songs, I have been having LSS. I loved Melt Away already in 1995, and love it even more. I used to skip Long Ago, but I have developed an appreciation for it in the 00s, and now, I like it a lot. Can she release these two as singles? I mean, if they debut in the BBH100, it's another record.

Have you seen her latest video singing Melt Away? While she sounds like she still has it, her facial expression appears to be... expressionless? And the slow robotic movement made me cringe a bit. She looks pretty nice, though. Just saying.

My apologies. I got confused with the two. The video I was referring to is "Underneath The Stars", not "Melt Away."

Also, it's so nice to see that the worldwide sales of Daydream have now reached 27 million copies. Moreover, her iconic hits "Fantasy" and "Always Be My Baby" are certified 8× Platinum and 7× Platinum in the US, respectively. Woo hoo.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 06:49)
Dedicated Mariah Fan YT Channel (114,245) by John from USA
I just came across the YT channel Butterfly Notes. I enjoy the two women react to and dissect Mariah's different songs from different eras.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 03:40)
Who is the meanest Pop girl (114,244) by Bobby A from United States
This video is really good.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 02:58)
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Who is the meanest Pop girl (114,243) by Lambi from USA
The same creator made another video, and Mariah got a lot of airtime. Our girl is also winning, yet again, in the court of public opinion. Just read the comment section. She is undefeated with her wise mouth and quick wit. The 90s rivalries were so comical.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 02:07)
Interesting video (114,242) by Lambi from USA
I simply don't need ChatGPT. My line of work is tech (I'm well-versed in this and you're in my lane), I also have a minor in journalism. I was trained to write well. Maybe that's just how you think because you can't fathom that someone can actually defend their case and articulate their thoughts perfectly.

If you landed on that assumption because I used a big word like "evidentiary", I picked that up from Elle Woods in Legally Blonde.

[censored] The court of public opinion seems to be leaning my way anyway. Just read the comment section of the video. This'll be the end of this pointless debate. Bless you and have a great day.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 01:49)
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Latest impromtu video (114,241) by Bobby A from United States
I really feel MC is dealing with something with her physical health. It is something more than the effects of her bipolar meds. She appeared to deal with some pain when she was singing Underneath the Stars. I pray she will get better.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 00:33)
Daydream 30th anniversary (114,240) by Zachariah from Croatia
I just love it and really have been daydreaming the whole weekend. I ordered everything because it is just a must have.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 23:43)
Daydream 30 (114,239) by Bobby A from United States
I understand better now. Thank you for explaining. Your post made me think about the other female powerhouse singer, Lara Fabian. Also, today I found a maxi CD of Tina Arena's Chains with various remixes. Do you have a copy?
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 22:44)
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Underneath the Stars (114,238) by Lighty from China
Mariah just posted a new clip of singing Underneath the Stars with piano. Nice vocals still those fixed dead eyes though.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 18:35)
Daydream 30 - reflections (114,237) by Lainsky from Philippines
With your informatively long but enjoyable message, Bill, I noticed this one, "Skipping Did I Do That? always." Please give it a chance. I used to skip that too, but after a few years, when I listened to it with intention, I realized it was not bad. I have developed a new admiration for this song, so I played it with Stay Long Love You and other songs that sound kind of the same. It's ideal for cheering up a low, quiet, or lazy mood. And thanks for your review of Daydream 30.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 16:37)
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Daydream 30 - reflections (114,236) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Lol, yes. In the future, there will be a chip playing near the ear or brain at that anniversary. But I will still want a cd and will be searching everywhere for it. And maybe Mariah will be still touring with AIWFIY the extra festive world tour.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 15:41)
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Daydream 30 - reflections (114,235) by Lambi from USA
Love it, this is peak lambily. I agree with the lack of new nuggets. I wish she took some time to actually go through other vocal alternatives such as these.

Then remixed them to stripped down guitar acoustic versions like this. Maybe add some subtle warm drum and dreamy synth pads, for a modern twist. People eat up simplicity.

Engineers have talked about how she literally does a million takes of song recordings. Mariah also had said she was told (after submitting songs) to "sing this straight and don't sing it like that". Where are those other vocal takes where she didn't sing it straight? She's very much free to use them now. It'd be such a sweet treat remixed into a new simplified version.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 10:24)
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Daydream 30 - reflections (114,234) by TJ from Norway
At one point, it will be [too] late. We, the fans will be so old that we don't understand the technology anymore.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 07:14)
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Interesting video (114,233) by jaker20 from US
Mariah can actually do three movies, one is about the butterfly storyline which we've heard many times but that's really the theme of her music in the 90s so it's a given.

Obviously Motorolla [sic] is going to be in it a lot, which would turn the movie into damsel in distress What's Love Got To Do With It type but with more hit songs.

If there's going to be a movie about Mariah's actual life story, where she doesn't reveal much about her life (like the movie Michael which is same old same old), but it has good music that people know, this is the one. I just don't know if people would be interested.

Another is an expected Christmas lady movie which is likely more palatable to the public because that's what everyone knows her now.

The song itself has a love story angle in it, so that would make for a perfect Christmas film to counter program all the big blockbusters in December. But this type of movie can easily turn to cringe and sideways if not done right. Look at all the animated AIWFC themed movies she's been doing in the past 10 years, they're really not that good, and does not give the song justice.

Last, if I'm to make a decent real movie about Mariah that is actually about her and a story that I wish she's actually willing to open, not the ones that she's just willing to admit, is about her being biracial.

Yes I know she's revealed her biracial struggles already, I just don't think that its the full story. She had identity struggles early in her life from her book, and to me that's the compelling story that Mariah can go deeper, that she needs to tell more about and many can likely relate because I think I'm not that interested in hearing another story about Motorolla [sic].
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 03:00)
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Daydream 30 - reflections (114,232) by Lighty from China
Maybe they are saving the whole Rotterdam concert for the 35th/40th anniversary of Daydream. Who knows?
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 02:48)
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Interesting video (114,231) by jaker20 from US
I didn't create an argument. You came out of the gate swinging and now you're getting censored, chill I'm just following what you started.

You're literally on a website that respect attribution of sources because that's how the internet is supposed to be, not even making money off Mariah, but diligently doing something because of love for her.

And here you are promoting AI, deepfakes, automation and scraping and stealing sources that even you said is easy to find on the internet, and automating them into sensationalism and playing with YouTube algorithm to earn money from materials they didn't even create.

And then you come back here from chatgpt to lay out and promote the process as some kind hard work that we should admire, because you know "that's how the internet works."

Mama you are lost my loves what you doing.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 02:45)
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Daydream 30 (114,230) by Bill from the UK
No really my dear friend as the instrumentation is synth and Mariah's voice is electronically enhanced. Here are some examples of what I would say are more traditional acapellas rather than just vocal stems. And of course.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 23:22)
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