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Two focus points for MC17 (114,680)
by BFF from US
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I agree, Edward. I think there have been opportunities to turn this around but decisions have been made by Mariah or on her behalf to preclude any way for the public to reconnect with her outside of Christmas or her legacy catalog. She cannot blame her team when they make these decisions on her behalf. If she wants commercial and artistic relevance outside of Christmas, she has to pivot back to the craft of writing and recording original music and away from her holiday catalog and residences. Christmas and the residencies might make her money, but they are hallmarks of someone in artistic stagnation.
She and her team severely botched the rollout of all three of her last three studio albums - "Me. I Am Mariah", "Caution", and "Here For It All". And she's been focused on Christmas and residencies since 2014... the past twelve years, during which she has only released two studio albums.
(Sunday 11 October 2026; 16:34)
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Two focus points for MC17 (114,676)
by Edward from USA
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Bobby A, do we coexist in the same universe? Looking at the sales of her last two albums, there simply aren't enough of us to make a meaningful dent in her overall streaming numbers. The reality is that 90% of the people streaming AIWFCIY are fans of the song, not Lambs. I applaud you for always being positive, but sometimes you need to be realistic.
Mariah just isn't that popular anymore, and on top of that, she's become largely unrelatable to the general public. We need to stop blaming Gamma and other external factors for the lack of success of her recent projects. Outside of what's left of her core fanbase, the general public doesn't seem particularly interested in what she has to offer. Her music has also started to feel stagnant, and she seems increasingly reluctant to take a genuine leap of faith and try something completely new.
Mariah once had the Midas touch that Taylor Swift has now, and that's well and good. But if she wants to be commercially successful again, she needs to find a way to connect with a new generation, reinvent herself musically, and deliver something genuinely fresh. HFIA has some gems that could have been hits in the hands of Ariana or Taylor, it's not only about the music but also the artist.
So no, I don't think streaming campaigns alone are going to solve the problem. The problem is not the wrong singles, a lack of promotion, but simply a public that no longer cares enough to tune in, there's only so much fans can do. We can stream until we're blue in the face, but we can't manufacture public interest. At some point, Mariah and her team need to give people a compelling reason to care again. 
(Sunday 11 October 2026; 03:42)
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Two focus points for MC17 (114,679)
by Rose from United States
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It's not impossible, but I think she burned bridges with people who could help her. Maybe in the moment, she chose to be right rather than trying to understand where the other parties were coming from, leading to hostility and tension and annoying or hurting the people she's in conflict with. She needs to decide what's most important: mutual progress or winning.
(Sunday 11 October 2026; 13:42)
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Two focus points for MC17 (114,675)
by Bobby A from United States
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Most Lambs (me too) are not streaming on repeat to increase MC's streaming numbers in the way the younger demographics do for Taylor Swift and Ella Langley. Lambs have to start new streaming campaigns in 2027 by choosing songs from MC's 2000s catalogue to focus on each month until MC17's first single is released.
MC and .gamma should consider a streaming only release for the first three months and then drop the physical cd and vinyl three months later. During the initial streaming only release, MC could rely on a corporate streaming integration such as Coach X Spotify Tabby Tour activation to push her presence onto active user playlists like "On Repeat".
(Sunday 11 October 2026; 00:50)
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Two focus points for MC17 (114,678)
by Lighty from China
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Maybe we should wait until this year's Christmas tours to see if she's still stiff and lifeless on stage. If so, nothing could save MC17, if that album's ever gonna happen.
(Sunday 11 October 2026; 05:50)
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Two focus points for MC17 (114,675)
by Bobby A from United States
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Most Lambs (me too) are not streaming on repeat to increase MC's streaming numbers in the way the younger demographics do for Taylor Swift and Ella Langley. Lambs have to start new streaming campaigns in 2027 by choosing songs from MC's 2000s catalogue to focus on each month until MC17's first single is released.
MC and .gamma should consider a streaming only release for the first three months and then drop the physical cd and vinyl three months later. During the initial streaming only release, MC could rely on a corporate streaming integration such as Coach X Spotify Tabby Tour activation to push her presence onto active user playlists like "On Repeat".
(Sunday 11 October 2026; 00:50)
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Two focus points for MC17 (114,677)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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If that's how song and album success is achieved nowadays, perhaps Mariah could try it. I am also a little desperate to see her on top of the charts like she used to. She could release another TEOM or something new that today's music consumers can't get enough of from streaming, whatever that "something new" or unheard-of from her is. However, let's face the truth that her voice is no longer as powerful as it used to be. While she can sing in her most comfortable key for her age, it may work, but still, it'll sound different. We all know that she's known as "The Voice". Another truth that we must accept is that the industry is clearly biased in favor of the younger singers. But hey. anything is possible. If she was able to bounce back in 2005, she can do it again, but it will be harder and will require a miracle. Cher was 52 when Believe became a worldwide hit. She's 57, so yes, she needs a miracle from her faith.
(Sunday 11 October 2026; 04:53)
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Two focus points for MC17 (114,675)
by Bobby A from United States
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Most Lambs (me too) are not streaming on repeat to increase MC's streaming numbers in the way the younger demographics do for Taylor Swift and Ella Langley. Lambs have to start new streaming campaigns in 2027 by choosing songs from MC's 2000s catalogue to focus on each month until MC17's first single is released.
MC and .gamma should consider a streaming only release for the first three months and then drop the physical cd and vinyl three months later. During the initial streaming only release, MC could rely on a corporate streaming integration such as Coach X Spotify Tabby Tour activation to push her presence onto active user playlists like "On Repeat".
(Sunday 11 October 2026; 00:50)
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Two focus points for MC17 (114,676)
by Edward from USA
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Bobby A, do we coexist in the same universe? Looking at the sales of her last two albums, there simply aren't enough of us to make a meaningful dent in her overall streaming numbers. The reality is that 90% of the people streaming AIWFCIY are fans of the song, not Lambs. I applaud you for always being positive, but sometimes you need to be realistic.
Mariah just isn't that popular anymore, and on top of that, she's become largely unrelatable to the general public. We need to stop blaming Gamma and other external factors for the lack of success of her recent projects. Outside of what's left of her core fanbase, the general public doesn't seem particularly interested in what she has to offer. Her music has also started to feel stagnant, and she seems increasingly reluctant to take a genuine leap of faith and try something completely new.
Mariah once had the Midas touch that Taylor Swift has now, and that's well and good. But if she wants to be commercially successful again, she needs to find a way to connect with a new generation, reinvent herself musically, and deliver something genuinely fresh. HFIA has some gems that could have been hits in the hands of Ariana or Taylor, it's not only about the music but also the artist.
So no, I don't think streaming campaigns alone are going to solve the problem. The problem is not the wrong singles, a lack of promotion, but simply a public that no longer cares enough to tune in, there's only so much fans can do. We can stream until we're blue in the face, but we can't manufacture public interest. At some point, Mariah and her team need to give people a compelling reason to care again.
(Sunday 11 October 2026; 03:42)
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Two focus points for MC17 (114,675)
by Bobby A from United States
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Most Lambs (me too) are not streaming on repeat to increase MC's streaming numbers in the way the younger demographics do for Taylor Swift and Ella Langley. Lambs have to start new streaming campaigns in 2027 by choosing songs from MC's 2000s catalogue to focus on each month until MC17's first single is released.
MC and .gamma should consider a streaming only release for the first three months and then drop the physical cd and vinyl three months later. During the initial streaming only release, MC could rely on a corporate streaming integration such as Coach X Spotify Tabby Tour activation to push her presence onto active user playlists like "On Repeat".
(Sunday 11 October 2026; 00:50)
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Two focus points for MC17 (114,675)
by Bobby A from United States
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Most Lambs (me too) are not streaming on repeat to increase MC's streaming numbers in the way the younger demographics do for Taylor Swift and Ella Langley. Lambs have to start new streaming campaigns in 2027 by choosing songs from MC's 2000s catalogue to focus on each month until MC17's first single is released.
MC and .gamma should consider a streaming only release for the first three months and then drop the physical cd and vinyl three months later. During the initial streaming only release, MC could rely on a corporate streaming integration such as Coach X Spotify Tabby Tour activation to push her presence onto active user playlists like "On Repeat".
(Sunday 11 October 2026; 00:50)
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Grammy nominations for HFIA (114,674)
by BFF from US
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With Beyonce, there's just a point where you have to question how someone can receive 35 awards and 99 nominations (the most for any artist) when they don't play an instrument, read music, and are really only a songwriter in the sense of "writing" songs with committees of tastemakers. It speaks to what you mentioned about the "commercial" influence on the Grammys in recent years.
In contrast, the Georg Solti, who won 31 Grammys, was an operatic conductor and classically trained musician who clearly had a major investment in music theory.
(Friday 9 October 2026; 16:49)
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Grammy nominations for HFIA (114,673)
by Edward from USA
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Gone are the days when the Grammys felt like they were about the music rather than popularity. I wouldn't be surprised if Mariah doesn't win anything next year, simply because she doesn't have the commercial relevance she once did. Let's be real, the narrative surrounding an artist seems to matter just as much as the music itself. Even Beyoncé looked genuinely surprised when she won Best Country Album for "Cowboy Carter" last year. Back in the '90s, it felt like an album didn't have to be a commercial success to win Album of the Year or Record of the Year. Something that flew under the radar could still get recognized if voters thought it deserved it. These days, it feels like the biggest names and cultural moments have the advantage before the envelope is even opened. The Grammys were never perfect, but I miss when winning one felt like recognition of musical excellence rather than another popularity contest.
(Friday 9 October 2026; 16:34)
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Grammy nominations for HFIA (114,673)
by Edward from USA
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Gone are the days when the Grammys felt like they were about the music rather than popularity. I wouldn't be surprised if Mariah doesn't win anything next year, simply because she doesn't have the commercial relevance she once did. Let's be real, the narrative surrounding an artist seems to matter just as much as the music itself. Even Beyoncé looked genuinely surprised when she won Best Country Album for "Cowboy Carter" last year. Back in the '90s, it felt like an album didn't have to be a commercial success to win Album of the Year or Record of the Year. Something that flew under the radar could still get recognized if voters thought it deserved it. These days, it feels like the biggest names and cultural moments have the advantage before the envelope is even opened. The Grammys were never perfect, but I miss when winning one felt like recognition of musical excellence rather than another popularity contest.
(Friday 9 October 2026; 16:34)
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Grammy nominations for HFIA (114,671)
by BFF from US
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HFIA is a deserving body of work, so it would be nice to have her win at least one. It's just a shame she didn't get anything for "Daydream" and "Butterfly" when she was arguably at her creative peak. It was also frustrating that they did not include the awards she won for "The Emanicipation of Mimi" during the televised broadcast in 2006.
I think the Grammys have always suffered from a lack of balance and patterns of questionable decision making. It's hard to make sense of giving more awards to Beyonce (35) than to Aretha Franklin (18). Or even Taylor Swift (14) having more than Joni Mitchell (11).
(Friday 9 October 2026; 13:29)
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Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) (114,672)
by BFF from US
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Yes. Throughout the years, Mariah has definitely shown a knack for transforming cover songs and making them her own. Mariah's version of "Christmas" is just so much more joyful than the original. The lead vocals and the background vocal arrangements make it so evident that she was having the time of her life working on that first Christmas album. Darlene Love can stay mad and salty and go kick rocks.
(Friday 9 October 2026; 13:43)
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Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) (114,669)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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I could not agree more. Mariah's version is better than the OG. At first, I thought it was not a remake, but of course, our queen has the magical vocal power to cover songs and make them her own OG. Right?
(Friday 9 October 2026; 09:41)
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Grammy nominations for HFIA (114,671)
by BFF from US
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HFIA is a deserving body of work, so it would be nice to have her win at least one. It's just a shame she didn't get anything for "Daydream" and "Butterfly" when she was arguably at her creative peak. It was also frustrating that they did not include the awards she won for "The Emanicipation of Mimi" during the televised broadcast in 2006.
I think the Grammys have always suffered from a lack of balance and patterns of questionable decision making. It's hard to make sense of giving more awards to Beyonce (35) than to Aretha Franklin (18). Or even Taylor Swift (14) having more than Joni Mitchell (11).
(Friday 9 October 2026; 13:29)
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Grammy nominations for HFIA (114,667)
by Bobby A from United States
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It was reported yesterday that MC submiited several HFIA songs to the Grammys for nominations. We will find out on November 16th. Something tells me that this is the year. I say that because MC has had this glow about her for the past 2 months. It is like she is preparing for The Emancipation of Mimi era all over again. Everything this year since MC's Winter Olympics performance has been on beautiful.
(Friday 9 October 2026; 05:25)
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Grammy nominations for HFIA (114,670)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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Let's hope and pray that this time she'll win almost all the awards she'll be nominated for, if not all.
(Friday 9 October 2026; 09:43)
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Grammy nominations for HFIA (114,667)
by Bobby A from United States
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It was reported yesterday that MC submiited several HFIA songs to the Grammys for nominations. We will find out on November 16th. Something tells me that this is the year. I say that because MC has had this glow about her for the past 2 months. It is like she is preparing for The Emancipation of Mimi era all over again. Everything this year since MC's Winter Olympics performance has been on beautiful.
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Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) (114,669)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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I could not agree more. Mariah's version is better than the OG. At first, I thought it was not a remake, but of course, our queen has the magical vocal power to cover songs and make them her own OG. Right?
(Friday 9 October 2026; 09:41)
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Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) (114,661)
by Bill from the UK
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If they do start promoting Christmas (Baby Please Come Home), I pray to God it is the original 1994 version and not that dreadful remake that was done for one of her stupid specials.
(Thursday 8 October 2026; 12:51)
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Article: Mariah Carey's photo with "The Last Supper" painting (114,668)
by Rose from United States
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This picture looks like the meme of the little girl with the house burning behind her.
(Friday 9 October 2026; 06:52)
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Grammy nominations for HFIA (114,667)
by Bobby A from United States
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It was reported yesterday that MC submiited several HFIA songs to the Grammys for nominations. We will find out on November 16th. Something tells me that this is the year. I say that because MC has had this glow about her for the past 2 months. It is like she is preparing for The Emancipation of Mimi era all over again. Everything this year since MC's Winter Olympics performance has been on beautiful.
(Friday 9 October 2026; 05:25)
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Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) (114,666)
by Edward from USA
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I agree with you there, Bill. It'd better be the original album version. After what Darlene Love said about Mariah, she can go suck a lemon.
(Friday 9 October 2026; 00:23)
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Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) (114,661)
by Bill from the UK
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If they do start promoting Christmas (Baby Please Come Home), I pray to God it is the original 1994 version and not that dreadful remake that was done for one of her stupid specials.
(Thursday 8 October 2026; 12:51)
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Article: Mariah Carey sends sweet video message to DWTS contestants (114,665)
by Rose from United States
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I think the If It's Over cover is the only one I loved.
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Article: Mariah Carey sends sweet video message to DWTS contestants (114,660)
by Bobby A from United States
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I watched the show live and the producers had amaeturs sing MC's songs. I found out after the Anytime You Need A Friend performance when Shazam did not recognize it. Lol. One male singer sounded really good on If It"s Over. I loved the singer who sang #Beautiful. I guess Sony Legacy or Def Jam would not approve ABC's price for MC's actual vocals.
(Thursday 8 October 2026; 12:17)
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Article: Mariah Carey sends sweet video message to DWTS contestants (114,664)
by Rose from United States
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I wish Mariah would have given them a discount. 
(Thursday 8 October 2026; 18:01)
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Article: Mariah Carey sends sweet video message to DWTS contestants (114,662)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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It's not that her versions weren't approved, it's because it would have been too expensive.
(Thursday 8 October 2026; 13:41)
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Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) (114,663)
by BFF from US
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I think it would definitely be the original 1994 recording since that one is already played frequently around the holidays and has already appeared in the top 20 of the "Holiday 100" chart. I think it's way better than Darlene Love's version, and because Love didn't write it, she can't really claim it's "her song".
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Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) (114,661)
by Bill from the UK
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If they do start promoting Christmas (Baby Please Come Home), I pray to God it is the original 1994 version and not that dreadful remake that was done for one of her stupid specials.
(Thursday 8 October 2026; 12:51)
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Article: Mariah Carey sends sweet video message to DWTS contestants (114,662)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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It's not that her versions weren't approved, it's because it would have been too expensive.
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Article: Mariah Carey sends sweet video message to DWTS contestants (114,660)
by Bobby A from United States
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I watched the show live and the producers had amaeturs sing MC's songs. I found out after the Anytime You Need A Friend performance when Shazam did not recognize it. Lol. One male singer sounded really good on If It"s Over. I loved the singer who sang #Beautiful. I guess Sony Legacy or Def Jam would not approve ABC's price for MC's actual vocals.
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Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) (114,661)
by Bill from the UK
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If they do start promoting Christmas (Baby Please Come Home), I pray to God it is the original 1994 version and not that dreadful remake that was done for one of her stupid specials.
(Thursday 8 October 2026; 12:51)
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Somebody's Ugly Daughter (114,656)
by BFF from US
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I'm wondering when she is planning to release the project. There were rumors that it would come out in late 2026, but it probably got pushed back to make room for the Glitter anniversary and whatever plans she has for this holiday season.
I'm reading rumors that Mariah and Sony are planning to promote "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" as an official single. Darlene Love would probably not be happy about that, but I actually think Mariah's version is more appealing. It would be nice to have a change from the focus on "All I Want for Christmas is You".
Mariah might be able to pull off a few more US #1 singles with this kind of strategy. I think she deserves it considering she's had four songs peak at #2 (Can't Let Go, Endless Love, Loverboy, Shake It Off) and barely miss #1. And it might even work with a non-holiday song. I remember how popular "Running Up That Hill" by Kate Bush became after it appeared in "Stranger Things". It didn't hit #1, but it came pretty close at #3.
I'm preparing myself to be underwhelmed by the Glitter deluxe edition but hope I'm pleasantly surprised.
(Wednesday 7 October 2026; 14:13)
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Article: Mariah Carey sends sweet video message to DWTS contestants (114,660)
by Bobby A from United States
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I watched the show live and the producers had amaeturs sing MC's songs. I found out after the Anytime You Need A Friend performance when Shazam did not recognize it. Lol. One male singer sounded really good on If It"s Over. I loved the singer who sang #Beautiful. I guess Sony Legacy or Def Jam would not approve ABC's price for MC's actual vocals.
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Article: Mariah Carey sends sweet video message to DWTS contestants (114,658)
by Rose from United States
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I watched the performances on YouTube but they were not the original versions sung by Mariah. Were they her versions on the real show when it aired?
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Somebody's Ugly Daughter (114,659)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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That's a good insight, one all the lambs are hoping for, so the strategy delivers as expected. A couple of number-ones would be great, plus another number-one album on the Billboard main charts. I'm really curious to hear this album, so let's hope she releases it after the anniversary version of Glitter.
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Somebody's Ugly Daughter (114,656)
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I'm wondering when she is planning to release the project. There were rumors that it would come out in late 2026, but it probably got pushed back to make room for the Glitter anniversary and whatever plans she has for this holiday season.
I'm reading rumors that Mariah and Sony are planning to promote "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" as an official single. Darlene Love would probably not be happy about that, but I actually think Mariah's version is more appealing. It would be nice to have a change from the focus on "All I Want for Christmas is You".
Mariah might be able to pull off a few more US #1 singles with this kind of strategy. I think she deserves it considering she's had four songs peak at #2 (Can't Let Go, Endless Love, Loverboy, Shake It Off) and barely miss #1. And it might even work with a non-holiday song. I remember how popular "Running Up That Hill" by Kate Bush became after it appeared in "Stranger Things". It didn't hit #1, but it came pretty close at #3.
I'm preparing myself to be underwhelmed by the Glitter deluxe edition but hope I'm pleasantly surprised.
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Article: Mariah Carey sends sweet video message to DWTS contestants (114,658)
by Rose from United States
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I watched the performances on YouTube but they were not the original versions sung by Mariah. Were they her versions on the real show when it aired?
(Thursday 8 October 2026; 03:22)
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Somebody's Ugly Daughter (114,657)
by Rose from United States
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I have an active imagination. I was thinking in the show (Elle) Liz could sing it in her voice like it's her song but then one day she gets sick so Elle has to take over and sing it one time in Mariah's original recording voice. One or two songs. So they can get heard without stealing Liz's thunder. We all know Elle eventually becomes a lawyer not a singer.
I like the Robyn Sparkles storyline in How I Met Your Mother because it's unexpected. Robyn can sing?
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Somebody's Ugly Daughter (114,653)
by Rose from United States
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I watched the series Elle on Prime video. It's Elle from Legally Blonde when she's in high school in 1995. I thought it was so cute. They have this part where they have little indie concerts at a carpet store. They could have one of the bands perform a couple of the songs. It would be Mariah's voice from the recording back then, but lip-sung. One of the main characters is a singer, but I don't know if she would want lip-sing. It would need to be an actress who can't sing and wouldn't mind miming the Mariah track. Some reviews I read said they didn't like the show but I really liked it. I'm not sure if they're having another chapter but if they did this would be a fun way to showcase the songs.
(Wednesday 7 October 2026; 09:05)
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Somebody's Ugly Daughter (114,656)
by BFF from US
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I'm wondering when she is planning to release the project. There were rumors that it would come out in late 2026, but it probably got pushed back to make room for the Glitter anniversary and whatever plans she has for this holiday season.
I'm reading rumors that Mariah and Sony are planning to promote "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" as an official single. Darlene Love would probably not be happy about that, but I actually think Mariah's version is more appealing. It would be nice to have a change from the focus on "All I Want for Christmas is You".
Mariah might be able to pull off a few more US #1 singles with this kind of strategy. I think she deserves it considering she's had four songs peak at #2 (Can't Let Go, Endless Love, Loverboy, Shake It Off) and barely miss #1. And it might even work with a non-holiday song. I remember how popular "Running Up That Hill" by Kate Bush became after it appeared in "Stranger Things". It didn't hit #1, but it came pretty close at #3.
I'm preparing myself to be underwhelmed by the Glitter deluxe edition but hope I'm pleasantly surprised.
(Wednesday 7 October 2026; 14:13)
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Somebody's Ugly Daughter (114,650)
by Bobby A from United States
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I have been thinking all day about how MC can release Somebody's Ugly Daughter and it have the biggest impact like an unreleased David Bowie or Fleetwood Mac project. So here is my list.
1. Record Store Day 2027
2. Partner with Target and Wal-Mart for exclusive CD and vinyl summer 2027 release
3. 2027 boxset with 180g vinyl with two 7 inch records of Love Is A Scam and Demented and commentary by Jimmy Fallon and Questlove
4. 2027 exclusive double CD sold only on MC's website with 5 extended versions remixed by Mick Jones (Foreigner) and Dave Stewart (Eurythmics)
5. 2027 Black Friday exclusive boxset, double CD with rough writing session demos, acappellas, and two 7 inch records
6. Follow the same physical preorder and streaming rollout like Glitter, but use only one physical preorder partner
(Tuesday 6 October 2026; 21:45)
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