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GenX OG fans (114,024)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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I guess the GenX OG fans are simply blessed to have experienced and witnessed Mariah at her prime. I have seen her live once during her first concert here in the Philippines. I was sitting in the 10th row from the front. She had two more concerts here, or three more than a decade later, and I decided not to see her. Aside from the very pricey ticket, the amount was not worth the quality of her performance and the show itself. As you said, it was pretty much all the same and fell flat. Don't get me wrong. I still adore her. However, I've learned to accept and live with the reality of who she is now, together with the artist and person she was once.
(Saturday 20 June 2026; 02:53)
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by Edward from USA
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Jamie, that's exactly how I feel. I don't think most OG fans wanted Mariah to stay exactly the same forever. We just wanted her to keep the things that made us love her in the first place, her authenticity, her humility, and the focus on her talent instead of all the superficial stuff. Her metamorphosis on "Butterfly" was shockingly amazing to me, she was sexy without even trying.
Up until around 2012, she was still a diva, but there was still a lot of the old Mariah there. Now she seems like she's on autopilot. Her concerts are basically the same show over and over again. She just stands there, looking more focused on not missing one of her many lipping cues or forgetting the lyrics than actually connecting with the audience. Everything feels flat like the shoes she refuses to wear.
Like you and Bill, I'm just happy I got to experience her when she was at her best. At least we have all that amazing music to go back to, and those remixes were everything. For me, the closes she got to replicate 90's remixes was with "Triumphant", after that, most of it was pretty meh.
As much as I love Mariah, I wouldn't pay to see her live at this point. I feel the same way about Madonna. Her shows are definitely more interesting, and the production value is still impressive, but she barely moves. She's in amazing shape, but you can still see the difference. She's also still leaning on the same shock-value tactics that worked 30 years ago, and they just don't hit the same when you're pushing 70.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 17:48)
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Mariah in Jamaica 2015 concert (114,023)
by Lambi from USA
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I love 420-riah. LMAO. I'm forever impressed by the 2nd verse of WBT in Jamaica. You can tell she wrote the song because of the way she ad libbed her way through it and still perfectly sat right on top of the melody and instrumentation, freaking phenomenal musical genius. Peep, "I gotta change the station."
(Friday 19 June 2026; 23:35)
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Mariah in Jamaica 2015 concert (114,022)
by ADAM from USA
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On a positive note, I wanted to share with the community this link for MC's iconic Jamaica concert in 2015. This long form video is so heart warming to watch. Her adlibs were so creative and interesting. Her spirit was everything. Her tone was drastically different from the records but it didn't matter. She was a free spirit and I loved to watch every minute of this. I wish she would open up about her struggles as this person nowadays is a ghost of her former self. The amount of stuff she didn't address in her memoir easily warrants another book or two. I'm not anxious to see her memoir on film with Lee Daniels as I feel she's not an objective source to document what really happened and as today, the most interesting talking points would be what happened to her voice and we know she won't even touch the topic.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 21:25)
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Mariah in Jamaica 2015 concert (114,022)
by ADAM from USA
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On a positive note, I wanted to share with the community this link for MC's iconic Jamaica concert in 2015. This long form video is so heart warming to watch. Her adlibs were so creative and interesting. Her spirit was everything. Her tone was drastically different from the records but it didn't matter. She was a free spirit and I loved to watch every minute of this. I wish she would open up about her struggles as this person nowadays is a ghost of her former self. The amount of stuff she didn't address in her memoir easily warrants another book or two. I'm not anxious to see her memoir on film with Lee Daniels as I feel she's not an objective source to document what really happened and as today, the most interesting talking points would be what happened to her voice and we know she won't even touch the topic.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 21:25)
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It's a wrap (114,021)
by Edward from USA
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Jamie, that's exactly how I feel. I don't think most OG fans wanted Mariah to stay exactly the same forever. We just wanted her to keep the things that made us love her in the first place, her authenticity, her humility, and the focus on her talent instead of all the superficial stuff. Her metamorphosis on "Butterfly" was shockingly amazing to me, she was sexy without even trying.
Up until around 2012, she was still a diva, but there was still a lot of the old Mariah there. Now she seems like she's on autopilot. Her concerts are basically the same show over and over again. She just stands there, looking more focused on not missing one of her many lipping cues or forgetting the lyrics than actually connecting with the audience. Everything feels flat like the shoes she refuses to wear.
Like you and Bill, I'm just happy I got to experience her when she was at her best. At least we have all that amazing music to go back to, and those remixes were everything. For me, the closes she got to replicate 90's remixes was with "Triumphant", after that, most of it was pretty meh.
As much as I love Mariah, I wouldn't pay to see her live at this point. I feel the same way about Madonna. Her shows are definitely more interesting, and the production value is still impressive, but she barely moves. She's in amazing shape, but you can still see the difference. She's also still leaning on the same shock-value tactics that worked 30 years ago, and they just don't hit the same when you're pushing 70.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 17:48)
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It's a wrap (114,018)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes watching her early interviews she's all about the music. Now all she really cares about is how she looks, some of which will have affected her voice indirectly and directly. She once said she wasn't all about the glitz and glamour. Now that's all she's about. It's a real shame she went this way, but she only has herself to blame. It was cute at first but eventually it's overtaken the music and even her personality. She will never be like she was but it would be nice for her to still be humble and connected. I used to follow Mariah to hotels just to get a glimpse of her, I couldn't wait to see her on TV or in concerts, I'd constantly be chasing down memorabilia. It's a sad day when I'm clinging onto the old Mariah and the pre 2016 Mariah as I currently feel disconnected from who she is right now. It makes me sad to feel this way.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 14:21)
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It's a wrap (114,020)
by Jamie from UK
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I’ll have to dig out my ticket and see what seat I was in relation to you lol. Yes we lived through the best times. Artists decline over the years is inevitable but I would never in a million years have predicted we would be where we are at now.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 16:29)
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It's a wrap (114,019)
by Bill from the UK
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Me too. I've found some peace living in my 90s bubble and enjoying her performances, interviews, albums, and remixes from that decade. So glad I was there at the time and witnessed it all first hand, and I'll be eternally grateful that I attended the Daydream Tour's London concert. I still get a pang when I watch her interview on This Morning in the UK, where she said "I would never lip sync." Oh Mariah.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 15:35)
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It's a wrap (114,019)
by Bill from the UK
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Me too. I've found some peace living in my 90s bubble and enjoying her performances, interviews, albums, and remixes from that decade. So glad I was there at the time and witnessed it all first hand, and I'll be eternally grateful that I attended the Daydream Tour's London concert. I still get a pang when I watch her interview on This Morning in the UK, where she said "I would never lip sync." Oh Mariah.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 15:35)
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It's a wrap (114,018)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes watching her early interviews she's all about the music. Now all she really cares about is how she looks, some of which will have affected her voice indirectly and directly. She once said she wasn't all about the glitz and glamour. Now that's all she's about. It's a real shame she went this way, but she only has herself to blame. It was cute at first but eventually it's overtaken the music and even her personality. She will never be like she was but it would be nice for her to still be humble and connected. I used to follow Mariah to hotels just to get a glimpse of her, I couldn't wait to see her on TV or in concerts, I'd constantly be chasing down memorabilia. It's a sad day when I'm clinging onto the old Mariah and the pre 2016 Mariah as I currently feel disconnected from who she is right now. It makes me sad to feel this way.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 14:21)
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It's a wrap (114,018)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes watching her early interviews she's all about the music. Now all she really cares about is how she looks, some of which will have affected her voice indirectly and directly. She once said she wasn't all about the glitz and glamour. Now that's all she's about. It's a real shame she went this way, but she only has herself to blame. It was cute at first but eventually it's overtaken the music and even her personality. She will never be like she was but it would be nice for her to still be humble and connected. I used to follow Mariah to hotels just to get a glimpse of her, I couldn't wait to see her on TV or in concerts, I'd constantly be chasing down memorabilia. It's a sad day when I'm clinging onto the old Mariah and the pre 2016 Mariah as I currently feel disconnected from who she is right now. It makes me sad to feel this way.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 14:21)
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by Dave from USA
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I would agree. It is odd that once she broke away from Tommy, where you would think she would continue to shine personally, she actually seemed to have less and less self esteem publicly. I'm not sure if it was the declining voice, which appears shot now, or because she started to put so much of her identity on her antics and looks, that as she aged, she grew more insecure. I was watching an old tape from when I saw her live in 92. She was so alive up on stage and her voice was so incredible.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 20:36)
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It's a wrap (114,017)
by Dave from USA
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I would agree. It is odd that once she broke away from Tommy, where you would think she would continue to shine personally, she actually seemed to have less and less self esteem publicly. I'm not sure if it was the declining voice, which appears shot now, or because she started to put so much of her identity on her antics and looks, that as she aged, she grew more insecure. I was watching an old tape from when I saw her live in 92. She was so alive up on stage and her voice was so incredible.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 20:36)
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It's a wrap (114,014)
by Lambi from USA
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I agree with the untapped comedienne potential. People with deep trauma use humor to cope and inevitably become hilarious. Her imitation and accent skills are so underrated.
But fair, she is essentially a living corpse these days, not sure how she is going to navigate a movie set. I too am exhausted seeing her with no spark. She's rather dull even when she should be excited talking about something she loves like songwriting. The NY Times interview was saddening.
I miss pre-breakdown Mariah. She was so refreshingly interesting, articulate and intelligent.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 11:24)
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Article: Mariah to guest star on "The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder" (114,016)
by Bobby A from United States
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It will be fun to watch MC's comedic timing and vocals shine again during another Proud Family episode. Also, I forgot MC appeared in three different American Dad episodes in 2013.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 19:19)
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It's a wrap (114,015)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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"I miss pre-breakdown Mariah. She was so refreshingly interesting, articulate and intelligent." Oh yes, she was. I miss her so much too. Her aura was just magical. So positive, full of life, she did outshine everyone and everything back then. Pure Mariah power. I've never seen someone so fascinating, lovely with that smile like Mariah during late 90ies. Her eyes were always shining. I wish I could go back to that time, before 9/11. I was also happier then, but yes life life must go on. But so many things really were better then. I also wonder if "a part of that smart, happy Mariah before breakdown" is still there in her soul or vanished away. I would love to see her again. She's missing.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 16:32)
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It's a wrap (114,014)
by Lambi from USA
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I agree with the untapped comedienne potential. People with deep trauma use humor to cope and inevitably become hilarious. Her imitation and accent skills are so underrated.
But fair, she is essentially a living corpse these days, not sure how she is going to navigate a movie set. I too am exhausted seeing her with no spark. She's rather dull even when she should be excited talking about something she loves like songwriting. The NY Times interview was saddening.
I miss pre-breakdown Mariah. She was so refreshingly interesting, articulate and intelligent.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 11:24)
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It's a wrap (114,014)
by Lambi from USA
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I agree with the untapped comedienne potential. People with deep trauma use humor to cope and inevitably become hilarious. Her imitation and accent skills are so underrated.
But fair, she is essentially a living corpse these days, not sure how she is going to navigate a movie set. I too am exhausted seeing her with no spark. She's rather dull even when she should be excited talking about something she loves like songwriting. The NY Times interview was saddening.
I miss pre-breakdown Mariah. She was so refreshingly interesting, articulate and intelligent.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 11:24)
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It's a wrap (114,008)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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I never said she's the next great phenomenal actress. All I said is that maybe there is some untapped potential there and that it's something Mariah could try again to get herself out of the rut she's in.
I swear some of you people are so argumentative and catty and want to misrepresent or malign people who post something that even slightly challenges your worldview.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 12:35)
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It's a wrap - Bond Girl (114,013)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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She totally gave that vibe in the "Honey" music video, my favorite because it's like a mini-movie. I wish she had done something like this. Why did it not materialize? Was the Bond girl just purely a rumor back then?
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 05:06)
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It's a wrap (114,011)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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That was on point. I agree with all three mentioned points. I read all the other views about Mariah's acting and possibly new roles. Personally I'm not so interested in new movie roles played by Mariah. She did it and it was okay. Some were good, some were not needed (that Zohan comedy movie, I even went to cinema for it) lol. I'll always prefer music from her. But in 97-99 she could have been a real Bond girl. "Honey" was showing it.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 17:36)
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It's a wrap (114,012)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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Amen to that. A little drama can make even a puddle look deep.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 18:05)
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It's a wrap (114,010)
by Edward from USA
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Remember that some lambs love the drama of pretending they're drowning in a glass of water.
The facts: Mariah is a legendary musician.
The fiction: There is a brilliant, dormant actress inside of her just begging to be awakened.
The delusion: Tommy is the sole reason she doesn't have an "Oscar-winning acting career".
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 16:43)
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It's a wrap (114,011)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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That was on point. I agree with all three mentioned points. I read all the other views about Mariah's acting and possibly new roles. Personally I'm not so interested in new movie roles played by Mariah. She did it and it was okay. Some were good, some were not needed (that Zohan comedy movie, I even went to cinema for it) lol. I'll always prefer music from her. But in 97-99 she could have been a real Bond girl. "Honey" was showing it.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 17:36)
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It's a wrap (114,010)
by Edward from USA
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Remember that some lambs love the drama of pretending they're drowning in a glass of water.
The facts: Mariah is a legendary musician.
The fiction: There is a brilliant, dormant actress inside of her just begging to be awakened.
The delusion: Tommy is the sole reason she doesn't have an "Oscar-winning acting career".
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 16:43)
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It's a wrap (114,010)
by Edward from USA
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Remember that some lambs love the drama of pretending they're drowning in a glass of water.
The facts: Mariah is a legendary musician.
The fiction: There is a brilliant, dormant actress inside of her just begging to be awakened.
The delusion: Tommy is the sole reason she doesn't have an "Oscar-winning acting career".
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 16:43)
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It's a wrap (114,009)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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Nobody's maligning you. We just upgraded "maybe she has some untapped potential" into the equally radical position of "maybe she doesn't". You're accusing people of misrepresenting your point while dramatically turning disagreement into a coordinated attack on your worldview. That's a lot of mileage from a Mariah Carey acting discussion. Disagreeing with your assessment of an actress isn't a worldview. It's called having a different assessment of an actress. The irony of accusing people of misrepresenting your point while turning simple disagreement into a battle over your worldview is pretty hard to miss.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 15:08)
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by Zachariah from Croatia
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Nobody's maligning you. We just upgraded "maybe she has some untapped potential" into the equally radical position of "maybe she doesn't". You're accusing people of misrepresenting your point while dramatically turning disagreement into a coordinated attack on your worldview. That's a lot of mileage from a Mariah Carey acting discussion. Disagreeing with your assessment of an actress isn't a worldview. It's called having a different assessment of an actress. The irony of accusing people of misrepresenting your point while turning simple disagreement into a battle over your worldview is pretty hard to miss.
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by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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I never said she's the next great phenomenal actress. All I said is that maybe there is some untapped potential there and that it's something Mariah could try again to get herself out of the rut she's in.
I swear some of you people are so argumentative and catty and want to misrepresent or malign people who post something that even slightly challenges your worldview.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 12:35)
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by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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I never said she's the next great phenomenal actress. All I said is that maybe there is some untapped potential there and that it's something Mariah could try again to get herself out of the rut she's in.
I swear some of you people are so argumentative and catty and want to misrepresent or malign people who post something that even slightly challenges your worldview.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 12:35)
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by Zachariah from Croatia
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We're nearly two decades removed from Tennessee and people are still talking about Mariah's acting "potential" like Hollywood is desperately overlooking the next great dramatic actress. Maybe the simpler explanation is that she's a phenomenal musician and a mediocre actress.
Not every criticism of her acting career can be blamed on Glitter.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 23:47)
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The perfect role (114,007)
by Lambi from USA
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The thing is my pitch would be easy for MC. She already knows the struggle of a singing single mom via Patricia. She also know what it's like to be a "has been" and she's got a such a great sense of humor. This would just be her coming back to being little Mirage in middle school coping with only having 3 shirts on rotation by being a hilarious class clown. The material is make or break for acting, it needs to be right and she would just be a natural in comedy.
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The perfect role (114,005)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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If Mariah goes back into acting, a comedy or drama-dy is the genre that could fit her mediocre ability and personality. She's witty and funny. It might work. However, if she's really interested in acting, she can go to an acting workshop. I believe it would not be that hard. As a singer, she draws from her emotions; acting demands emotional depth to make performances believable and impactful for viewers.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 05:17)
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The perfect role (114,006)
by nancy from Switzerland
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I could see MC in little guest roles. Where she can play a hairdresser, a beautician, or an office worker where she can sit and stand still. But I don't see her in dynamic roles, where she has to walk and run. I also agree that she has to know the part by heart. And that could be difficult for her. Punctuality on the set is also crucial. No one wants to wait for a mediocre actress with difficult personality who has always demands and wants a high salary.
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by Lainsky from Philippines
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If Mariah goes back into acting, a comedy or drama-dy is the genre that could fit her mediocre ability and personality. She's witty and funny. It might work. However, if she's really interested in acting, she can go to an acting workshop. I believe it would not be that hard. As a singer, she draws from her emotions; acting demands emotional depth to make performances believable and impactful for viewers.
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by Lainsky from Philippines
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If Mariah goes back into acting, a comedy or drama-dy is the genre that could fit her mediocre ability and personality. She's witty and funny. It might work. However, if she's really interested in acting, she can go to an acting workshop. I believe it would not be that hard. As a singer, she draws from her emotions; acting demands emotional depth to make performances believable and impactful for viewers.
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by Lambi from USA
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I actually see Mariah doing a comedy classic. She could play as a poor, struggling single mom who's way past her prime but still convinced she's one performance away from superstardom.
She bounces around open mics, hotel lounges, bar gigs, county fairs, and singing competitions trying to make ends meet while demanding full diva treatment everywhere she goes. Her kids could be like, "I think only 18 year old girls should wear that." Or "Mom, again, no one knows that song anymore."
My bubbling scene idea is she gets booked to sing at a bar and arrogantly tells everyone, "Vegas called." People assume she's headlining a casino but it's actually just a run-down tavern. It'd also be freaking hilarious seeing her scramble together a superstar look with blue eye shadow, on a dollar-store budget.
The comedy comes from her having the confidence of a global superstar while living a life that's the opposite; it's rather unbelievably sad and pathetic. Add alcohol addiction somewhere. Couple of questionable low-life men. Think delusional, hysterical, unhinged, chaotic, and weirdly inspiring. Of course, the life lesson would be how family is really all that matters at the end. Working title: Ghetto Diva.
Everyone should throw their scene ideas here and we should help pitch it. It would help her connect with Patricia's story and heal her somehow. Comedy has always been her coping mechanism and I think it'd be fun to see her do some acting that's less serious. I honestly think she would do a good job.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:12)
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by Zachariah from Croatia
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We're nearly two decades removed from Tennessee and people are still talking about Mariah's acting "potential" like Hollywood is desperately overlooking the next great dramatic actress. Maybe the simpler explanation is that she's a phenomenal musician and a mediocre actress.
Not every criticism of her acting career can be blamed on Glitter.
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by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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We're just going to have to disagree on this one. I think Mariah has some untapped potential on the acting front (evidenced by "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee") and has been unfairly written off on that front due to the failure of "Glitter". She actually received good reviews for her performances in "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee". The films just didn't get wide releases outside of the festival circuit.
Attempting another film like "Tennessee" could lead to another interesting musical collaboration like "Right to Dream" with Willie Nelson. It could spark something that takes Mariah out of her comfort zone.
I just don't see Mariah writing and producing for other artists - if she comes up with something good, she's going to want to keep it for herself.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 17:02)
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It's a wrap (114,003)
by Sasha from Nomansland
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You are pretty optimistic when it comes to her acting career. The girl is 56 or 57 years old (who really knows), pretty much need a rollator to move, heavily medicated at times due to her bipolar disorder, probably has other health issues. In addition, she can't even remember the lyrics of her own songs while pretending singing live on stage and she needs hours of high maintenance in her beauty room before going out. Can you really imagine her on a movie set? I can't.
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It's a wrap (114,002)
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We're just going to have to disagree on this one. I think Mariah has some untapped potential on the acting front (evidenced by "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee") and has been unfairly written off on that front due to the failure of "Glitter". She actually received good reviews for her performances in "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee". The films just didn't get wide releases outside of the festival circuit.
Attempting another film like "Tennessee" could lead to another interesting musical collaboration like "Right to Dream" with Willie Nelson. It could spark something that takes Mariah out of her comfort zone.
I just don't see Mariah writing and producing for other artists - if she comes up with something good, she's going to want to keep it for herself.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 17:02)
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It's a wrap (114,002)
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We're just going to have to disagree on this one. I think Mariah has some untapped potential on the acting front (evidenced by "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee") and has been unfairly written off on that front due to the failure of "Glitter". She actually received good reviews for her performances in "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee". The films just didn't get wide releases outside of the festival circuit.
Attempting another film like "Tennessee" could lead to another interesting musical collaboration like "Right to Dream" with Willie Nelson. It could spark something that takes Mariah out of her comfort zone.
I just don't see Mariah writing and producing for other artists - if she comes up with something good, she's going to want to keep it for herself.
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An unknown mediocre actor is not the same thing as Mariah Carey being mediocre at acting. Everything Mariah does gets magnified because of who she is. A random actor can be average and nobody cares. Mariah can't. Every role, every performance, every line delivery is going to be picked apart because she's Mariah Carey.
So saying "you don't have to be good to act" kind of misses the point. Sure, you don't. But why would anyone want her to pursue something she's never really been great at when she has other talents that are much more proven?
And I don't really buy the argument about her writing and producing either. Not every song written by Diane Warren, Babyface, or any other legendary songwriter is a hit. That's just the nature of the business. The difference is that Mariah has an entire career's worth of songwriting accomplishments behind her. Her track record as a writer is infinitely stronger than her track record as an actress.
At the end of the day, it's not about whether she can act. It's about where she's most likely to succeed and create something worthwhile. Outside of Precious, acting has never really been her lane. Writing, producing, and creating music have always been. If she's looking for a new creative outlet, it makes a lot more sense to lean into the things she's actually excelled at instead of chasing a film career that's never really taken off.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:09)
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Article: Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (114,001)
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The Walter collab list does the rounds almost as much as my list of excuses I post every so often lol.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 16:40)
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Article: Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (114,000)
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I always get sad when an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about writes nonsenses like "Who are the other superstars that Walter had success with?" OK, here we go again: - Barbra Streisand - Celine Dion - Destiny's Child - Michael Bolton - Kenny G - Daryl Hall - Luther Vandross - New Kids on the Block - Dusty Springfield - All-4-One - Tina Arena - Gary Barlow - Babyface - Paul Anka - Savage Garden - Marc Anthony - Ricky Martin - Lara Fabian - Christina Aguilera - Josh Groban - Lionel Richie - Jessica Simpson - Earth, Wind & Fire - Leona Lewis - Brian McKnight - Idina Menzel - Neil Diamond
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Article: Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (114,000)
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I always get sad when an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about writes nonsenses like "Who are the other superstars that Walter had success with?" OK, here we go again: - Barbra Streisand - Celine Dion - Destiny's Child - Michael Bolton - Kenny G - Daryl Hall - Luther Vandross - New Kids on the Block - Dusty Springfield - All-4-One - Tina Arena - Gary Barlow - Babyface - Paul Anka - Savage Garden - Marc Anthony - Ricky Martin - Lara Fabian - Christina Aguilera - Josh Groban - Lionel Richie - Jessica Simpson - Earth, Wind & Fire - Leona Lewis - Brian McKnight - Idina Menzel - Neil Diamond
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Article: Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (113,999)
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What a ridiculous article. ShowBiz411 is mostly just a gossip column, so I guess it's their prerogative to stir up drama. But here is the truth: First, Mariah and Walter had a falling out a long time ago because he sold her out to her ex-husband during their divorce. If he had been interested in continuing their successful collaboration, he should have supported her during that time. Instead, he hedged his bets that Tommy would be the star to hook his wagon to and Mariah would fail without Tommy's support. Well, who's still around 30 years later? Tommy is disgraced and Mariah continues to be a relevant influence in the music industry. Walter made the wrong choice and ShowBiz411 wants to make it sound like Mariah is the disloyal one? We know better. Secondly, they assert that Walter is the "true composer" of her hits. That's not an accurate assessment. Walter is a talented musician and songwriter for sure - but his process with Mariah is well documented. She created the melodies and lyrics, and Walter helped her put what she heard in her head on "paper". He is a talented pianist and Mariah doesn't play, so she needed him to help her flesh out her ideas. But he is not the "true composer" of her hits. A collaborator, for sure, but the melodies and lyrics are entirely hers. The truth is that Mariah is a superstar who continued to have great success for decades after her collaboration with Walter ended. If he was the reason for her success, we wouldn't have songs like "Heartbreaker", "We Belong Together", "Touch My Body", or "#Beautiful". Who are the other superstars that Walter had success with? Savage Garden, anyone? Please.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:28)
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