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2005 (112,498) by Dove from United States
The Beatles are old and still re-release their stuff for newer audiences. No one is taking anything away from the youngsters.
(Tuesday 25 November 2025; 03:19)
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Some say that's tough (112,497) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
Yes, we can hear it as well. We have since the moment we got to listen to the song. It's very characteristic and unusual. The interpretations have already been stated here, and I think they are approximate.
(Tuesday 25 November 2025; 01:12)
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Vegas (112,496) by Dove from United States
I'm kind of over her being in Vegas. Can't we get a residency in New York City? After I saw the Elvis movie I'm not so into Vegas anymore.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 22:52)
Some say that's tough (112,495) by Edward from USA
Someone isolated just the background vocals, and once again you can hear how good Mariah is at building those crazy, beautifully detailed layers you barely notice in the full mix. But that weird sound in there? It adds nothing. It totally sounds like a glitch. Whatever it was supposed to be, it makes no sense. It actually reminds me of that glitch on one of the Memoirs tracks.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 20:53)
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Random thoughts (112,494) by jaker20 from US
Mariah's merch is not good lol because I think she is the one managing it. She no longer knows what is cool. She needs to hand them over to younger people to create ideate merch for her.

I have not bought any Mariah merch, but instead gone back to collecting CDs, vinyl and tapes. They're on a glass display that I just put together last year. I used to have some rare collectibles I bought in record stores, but I regretted selling them.

Now her Christmas merch is another, they are actually pretty good, especially the tumbler and the snow globe. But I'm sorry, her non-Christmas merch is ugly, she needs to update them to the 21st century lol

I don't think that is Mariah's forte. That is why all her partnerships in the past didn't work, just like Black Irish, and her perfume.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 19:53)
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2005 (112,493) by Tony Lorenzo from UK
I think we should all get over the business side of her career now. She has done it all. She's been on top of the charts more than anyone else in history. She has an exquisite back catalogue that she can perform whenever she likes throughout the year which she also owns the masters to. She has her yearly Christmas show. She is widely seen as a legend. What more can she and we ask for? Do we need her try and compete with the youngsters, who also sometimes deserve their time in the spotlight? Do we want her compromising on her sound so the music is "current" but not really her?

She is now at the stage where she can, and needs to, sit back, survey her career with glee, and enjoy her leisure time. She's got two beautiful children, one of whom apparently wants to join the singing business, meaning Mariah can mentor her and do what she can for the success of her next generation.

I don't think we fans can expect any more of her. She brings out a new album for her die-hard fans and it matters not how it charts. We should be on the floor praising the Lord that she has bothered to bring out new music for us, when she absolutely doesn't need to any more.

Mariah has given us so so much. An ouvre that she and we can be deeply proud of and go back to again and again, a timeless catalogue of stunning hits and exquisite vocals. Her recent performances have come despite all of the grief from her personal life, and despite her mental health, which due to bipolar's nature will only progressively get more difficult to deal with.

She is doing the most, for us, and what I want to tell Mariah, that woman who we should be so amazed to have been around to witness in her prime, is rest. Do not worry about your career, stop performing when you don't want to. Pop up a couple of times a year to keep the money you fully deserve rolling in, to sing your hits , knowing you have a solid fanbase who will always turn out for you when you're in town. Celebrate the Christmas period with us, then go back and hibernate, help dem babies with whatever they have going on, and never think for a second that because you might be being quiet, your status as a legend is in any doubt.

Those of us trying to strategize how to keep her in the headlines and at the top of the charts are just applying unnecessary pressure on her, making her think she's got to keep up the insane work ethic lest we all disappear. We need to just enjoy what she has already achieved, and allow her to spend the rest of her life lounging on the beach and popping up now and again.

I would personally enjoy some more writing for another book. Perhaps one delving into her music catalogue, with the stories behind them and their recording, her take on some of the fabulous moments in her career like Divas Live with Aretha, or her first ever performance when she sings America the Beautiful to the sports stars, etc. We'd all love to know more about her from the perspective of her music, now she has already given us her perspective on her personal life and history. We want info on the music now.

I also would definitely not object to a concept album where she sings jazz standards, or sings over some amazing dance music. Mariah over some hot current beats. Basically using her voice in different ways, as it is an instrument. Basically just flirting with whatever bits and bobs she likes, with zero pressure.

It's what Mariah deserves. We should all be thankful that she is still here to receive her flowers and enjoy this stage of life, given how many of our stars pass away before they get to reflect on their careers.

I shall shut up now. Not criticising you, merely advocating for us to stop thinking Mariah needs to do any more than she has. Mariah has had a stellar career and I can't understand why people want even more from her. Can we not just enjoy what we already have and stop pressuring her for even more?
(Monday 24 November 2025; 18:07)
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Queen of Christmas (112,492) by Edward from USA
I don't think she should've tried in the first place. The backlash was immediate, and honestly, predictable. You can't trademark a general Christmas term, it just comes off as ridiculous. The moment she filed for "Queen of Christmas", I knew it was going to blow back on her ass.

Mariah already owns a piece of Christmas culturally. She earned that organically through her music and impact, she didn't need a legal title to prove it. Trying to lock it down for profit only made her look unnecessarily greedy, and it distracted from what she actually excels at: being the soundtrack of the season without even trying.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 17:14)
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Elf on the shelf (112,491) by Dove from United States
I'm at Walmart right now and they have Martha Stewart's elf on the shelf again this year and there are little outfits so you can change her. If it was Mariah I would have bought all of it.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 17:10)
Name as a brand (112,490) by Dove from United States
I don't know anything about licensing but they do a good job. I've bought a lot of things just because her name is connected.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 15:49)
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Queen of Christmas (112,489) by Dove from United States
I think she should try to trademark this again. Maybe she could write a Christmas song about the Virgin Mary and call the song "Queen of Christmas" so nobody gets any ideas. I don't know why other singers are against this. Mariah Carey is the queen of Christmas. Also, wishlist:
Christmas duet with Kelly Clarkson
Cover of Winter Wonderland
Cover of Last Christmas by Wham
Cover of Christmas Tree Farm by Taylor Swift
Christmas duet with Doja Cat (original song with rap verses)
(Monday 24 November 2025; 15:48)
Name as a brand (112,488) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
Marilyn Monroe's likeness is licensed through her estate, which is owned by Authentic Brands Group (ABG). Her name is used as a brand name for a wide variety of products and collaborations, including cosmetics, apparel, and accessories from different companies, such as the makeup line born from Stefano Cigana and collaborations with brands like DIFF Eyewear and Max Factor.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 15:43)
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Name as a brand (112,487) by Dove from United States
Maybe she should ask Shaquille O''Neal about how they use Marilyn Monroe's name for everything. One Christmas my mom got me some underwear that were "Marilyn Monroe" since she knows I like her. The only thing "Marilyn Monroe" about the underwear was the label because how would anyone know what kind of underwear she wore? One of them was cheetah print, one was black transparent with some lace, and the third was nude colored. I mean I guess she could have worn underwear like that but I know my mom bought them for the picture of Marilyn Monroe on the label. If it had any other label they wouldn't have been as special, I think.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 15:34)
Waterford collab (112,486) by Dove from United States
I was thinking of what I would like to be the shapes of the crystal Mariah ornaments and the first thing that came to mind was Mariah in the Honey video when she's climbing up the rope to get in the helicopter.

I went to Hobby Lobby and saw some ornaments that reminded me of early Taylor Swift. It was the hands making the heart, a glittery guitar, some cowboys boots, and a cowboy hat. They weren't all pink. They weren't Taylor Swift ornaments but they're figures that immediately remind me of her.

For Mariah one is definitely a butterfly. I like Elton's Red heart ornament that gives 10% to the Aids Foundation. She could have a pink or "pink yet lavender" ornament that gives a percentage to a charity.

Another one that came to mind was a meme I saw of her where she has her finger in her ear with her eyes closed and her other arm in the air. I guess she's hitting the high notes. Crystal ornaments don't really have faces but there could be an indentation to show her eyes are closed and she could be wearing the stars crown she has in the "It's Time" Sephora ad.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 15:24)
Random thoughts (112,485) by Dove from United States
I don't know if the people Taylor has working for her are younger or what, but she jumps on every marketing opportunity and puts out fun merch that you'd actually want to buy.

I know a lot of us Mariah fans, we're older now, but we've been with her since we were kids. She brings out the kid in me. Not just because I've been a fan since I was a kid but also because she's like a big kid herself.

Some of the merch I like, but a lot of it has been a miss for me. A while ago I got some of her wrapping paper that was fun. It had the cartoon version of her and her dog. I wrapped up some empty boxes with it and I put them out every year as decoration. Now her wrapping paper and annual ornaments just have her name or initials. It's quality paper but it's not fun. I'd rather buy fun wrapping paper at Home Goods than use that.

I liked the Swarovski snowflake she had a few years back. Couldn't she do an ornament collaboration with Waterford like Elton John has? Release one every year?

Or I've seen advertised some really cute advent calendars with each window having a mini figure of Mariah in her most famous ensembles. It's a scam, and 2D, but it would be cute if they were real. You could sell that for $120 ($10 per figure that probably cost a few dollars to make). I think people would buy it. But if it's quality. Not the ugly deformed faces the Hallmark ornaments have had in recent years.

I've already said I prefer blow molds to inflatables. I like to use the same stuff year after year.

Some of her merch is cute. I like the denim jacket and one of the sweatshirts she had the year she had the concert in New York during covid. Her kids were wearing it.

But to get this stuff to sell you kind of need a promotional vehicle. Like with Disney. I know Disney would get a big cut but it's good marketing because it would reinforce the queen of Christmas idea and introduce kids to her voice. Maybe they could use the recordings of her when she was younger from the original Merry Christmas. I don't know how that works. (Just because if the Princess is a young girl she needs to sound young.) It would be nice if they included the duet with her mom as a tribute. Like, recreating the video in cartoon form.

A few years ago I saw a short (reel?) of Kris Jenner's wrapping paper she made for her kids. It had drawings of her kids on it and it was really good. I'm not sure who the artist was but hire her for the wrapping paper. Or there's also an artist I've seen on Facebook whom I really like. I just looked her up, the page is called Hayden Williams Illustrations. That would be fun wrapping paper. (Or art prints.)
(Monday 24 November 2025; 14:59)
Merch (112,484) by Dove from United States
There's so much potential for quality, collectible merch. The stuff they have now is meh.

Also, the angel Halloween costume was really cute. Her back up singers should have dressed up as angels too and thrown together a music video for Hark. The Herald Angels Sing.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 14:35)
2005 (112,483) by Dove from United States
You're probably right. I just feel like with a really good idea, things could take off again.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 14:26)
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Some say that's tough (112,482) by Chicago Lamb from USA
It's there and it's intentional. Sounds like a snicker.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 13:46)
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2005 (112,481) by Bobby A from United States
I think he couldn't reinvent MC's career now being out of her life for so long. MC needs an up and coming business-minded CEO to manage her career. The music business is really challenging for a lot of R&B artists right now because they have managers who are not marketing the whole artist anymore. Their mindset today is to release a couple of singles for streaming success and then drop the album one year later hoping for huge album numbers. Summer Walker's Finally Over It is really suffering from this business strategy.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 12:52)
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2005 (112,480) by Dove from United States
A part of me wishes Benny Medina was still a big part of Mariah’s team.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 05:58)
Some say that's tough (112,479) by Lambi from USA
Someone said "oooh", I think Bobby A is correct, sounded like Daniel Moore was giving her props for writing such a great lyric.

Also, "Someone said that's tough" is probably inspired by Rocky. Gen Z boys always comment "dats tuff" when something goes hard on social media and I agree. "And thank the Lord I lived to see the physical embodiment of love" is pretty "tuff".

The next line, "But when you leave, you take away a little bit of every fiber that's embedded in me" is also pretty dang tuff and profound. I understand it even more now because her book discussed how Mariah's body really went through the ringer while being pregnant with the twins. Poisonous edema, gestational diabetes and she gained a hundred pounds. She quite literally couldn't have loved harder physically. It's pure labor of love.

I think Mara was correct about the song's first stanzas being about Dem Kids leaving to be with Nick for the weekend or something. That would be pretty heavy for MC, considering that they're truly the only ones who's shown her unconditional love, it's deep. Letting go ain't easy.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 03:55)
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Some say that's tough (112,478) by Bobby A from United States
Lambi was trying to figure it out too on October 1st . I think HFIA was recorded in multiple parts over 3 years and that part was the best take. So, MC decided to include Daniel's hot mic part.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 02:00)
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Some say that's tough (112,477) by Edward from USA
While listening to "Here For It All", I noticed a brief distortion that sounds like a sped-up, slightly warped male voice, almost the way a CD glitches for a split second. At first I thought it was just my copy, but I checked the YouTube lyric video and the distortion is there as well.

It happens right after she finishes the line: "Some say that's tough." And for some reason, once I heard it, I can't unhear it. Every time I listen, it jumps out at me.

Can any of you hear it as well? Do you think it's intentional, part of the production, or does it sound like someone saying something in the background? If you can make out what that brief sound/voice might be, I'd love to know. If you can't hear it, I think it's time for me to check my meds and get them right.
(Monday 24 November 2025; 01:18)
Vocals 2009-10 (112,476) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
This is just spectacular.
(Sunday 23 November 2025; 21:25)
A little life update (112,475) by Lambi from USA
Congrats Mimi L. You have been heaven blessed. Raising a child is the most rewarding and there is not a job more significant (I have 4 nephews, 2 nieces). Family truly is so sacred. "We're the only thing that's true." I am so elated for you, darling.
(Sunday 23 November 2025; 13:49)
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I won't allow it (112,474) by Lambi from USA
"He can have relationships with as many women but she's not allowed to date others." I lied, I didn't think it was possible but I did somehow find another reason to dislike him even more. He's literally so ghetto.

He got to level up with Mariah and experience the grandiosity of life but he basically chose to go back to the projects and do hoot rat shit. Could've been jets on holidays and chefs with hollandaise but Nick will forever love his Chick-fil-A.

All of his baby mamas have the same mold too. Instagram addicted models that are attention starved. I truly do not understand why they would even entertain the idea of pro-creating with someone who treats relationships this way or why they'd want to be part of his rotation. The dynamic is impossible to justify. The money can't make up for it, and in the end, it's really the kids who will inevitably have to suffer the consequences.
(Sunday 23 November 2025; 13:38)
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