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Long Ago and Melt Away a capellas (114,246) by Lainsky from Philippines
Ever since I listened to the a capella versions of these two underrated songs, I have been having LSS. I loved Melt Away already in 1995, and love it even more. I used to skip Long Ago, but I have developed an appreciation for it in the 00s, and now, I like it a lot. Can she release these two as singles? I mean, if they debut in the BBH100, it's another record.

Have you seen her latest video singing Melt Away? While she sounds like she still has it, her facial expression appears to be... expressionless? And the slow robotic movement made me cringe a bit. She looks pretty nice, though. Just saying.

My apologies. I got confused with the two. The video I was referring to is "Underneath The Stars", not "Melt Away."

Also, it's so nice to see that the worldwide sales of Daydream have now reached 27 million copies. Moreover, her iconic hits "Fantasy" and "Always Be My Baby" are certified 8× Platinum and 7× Platinum in the US, respectively. Woo hoo.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 06:49)
Dedicated Mariah Fan YT Channel (114,245) by John from USA
I just came across the YT channel Butterfly Notes. I enjoy the two women react to and dissect Mariah's different songs from different eras.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 03:40)
Who is the meanest Pop girl (114,244) by Bobby A from United States
This video is really good.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 02:58)
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Who is the meanest Pop girl (114,243) by Lambi from USA
The same creator made another video, and Mariah got a lot of airtime. Our girl is also winning, yet again, in the court of public opinion. Just read the comment section. She is undefeated with her wise mouth and quick wit. The 90s rivalries were so comical.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 02:07)
Interesting video (114,242) by Lambi from USA
I simply don't need ChatGPT. My line of work is tech (I'm well-versed in this and you're in my lane), I also have a minor in journalism. I was trained to write well. Maybe that's just how you think because you can't fathom that someone can actually defend their case and articulate their thoughts perfectly.

If you landed on that assumption because I used a big word like "evidentiary", I picked that up from Elle Woods in Legally Blonde.

[censored] The court of public opinion seems to be leaning my way anyway. Just read the comment section of the video. This'll be the end of this pointless debate. Bless you and have a great day.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 01:49)
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Latest impromtu video (114,241) by Bobby A from United States
I really feel MC is dealing with something with her physical health. It is something more than the effects of her bipolar meds. She appeared to deal with some pain when she was singing Underneath the Stars. I pray she will get better.
(Monday 20 July 2026; 00:33)
Daydream 30th anniversary (114,240) by Zachariah from Croatia
I just love it and really have been daydreaming the whole weekend. I ordered everything because it is just a must have.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 23:43)
Daydream 30 (114,239) by Bobby A from United States
I understand better now. Thank you for explaining. Your post made me think about the other female powerhouse singer, Lara Fabian. Also, today I found a maxi CD of Tina Arena's Chains with various remixes. Do you have a copy?
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 22:44)
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Underneath the Stars (114,238) by Lighty from China
Mariah just posted a new clip of singing Underneath the Stars with piano. Nice vocals still those fixed dead eyes though.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 18:35)
Daydream 30 - reflections (114,237) by Lainsky from Philippines
With your informatively long but enjoyable message, Bill, I noticed this one, "Skipping Did I Do That? always." Please give it a chance. I used to skip that too, but after a few years, when I listened to it with intention, I realized it was not bad. I have developed a new admiration for this song, so I played it with Stay Long Love You and other songs that sound kind of the same. It's ideal for cheering up a low, quiet, or lazy mood. And thanks for your review of Daydream 30.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 16:37)
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Daydream 30 - reflections (114,236) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Lol, yes. In the future, there will be a chip playing near the ear or brain at that anniversary. But I will still want a cd and will be searching everywhere for it. And maybe Mariah will be still touring with AIWFIY the extra festive world tour.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 15:41)
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Daydream 30 - reflections (114,235) by Lambi from USA
Love it, this is peak lambily. I agree with the lack of new nuggets. I wish she took some time to actually go through other vocal alternatives such as these.

Then remixed them to stripped down guitar acoustic versions like this. Maybe add some subtle warm drum and dreamy synth pads, for a modern twist. People eat up simplicity.

Engineers have talked about how she literally does a million takes of song recordings. Mariah also had said she was told (after submitting songs) to "sing this straight and don't sing it like that". Where are those other vocal takes where she didn't sing it straight? She's very much free to use them now. It'd be such a sweet treat remixed into a new simplified version.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 10:24)
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Daydream 30 - reflections (114,234) by TJ from Norway
At one point, it will be [too] late. We, the fans will be so old that we don't understand the technology anymore.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 07:14)
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Interesting video (114,233) by jaker20 from US
Mariah can actually do three movies, one is about the butterfly storyline which we've heard many times but that's really the theme of her music in the 90s so it's a given.

Obviously Motorolla [sic] is going to be in it a lot, which would turn the movie into damsel in distress What's Love Got To Do With It type but with more hit songs.

If there's going to be a movie about Mariah's actual life story, where she doesn't reveal much about her life (like the movie Michael which is same old same old), but it has good music that people know, this is the one. I just don't know if people would be interested.

Another is an expected Christmas lady movie which is likely more palatable to the public because that's what everyone knows her now.

The song itself has a love story angle in it, so that would make for a perfect Christmas film to counter program all the big blockbusters in December. But this type of movie can easily turn to cringe and sideways if not done right. Look at all the animated AIWFC themed movies she's been doing in the past 10 years, they're really not that good, and does not give the song justice.

Last, if I'm to make a decent real movie about Mariah that is actually about her and a story that I wish she's actually willing to open, not the ones that she's just willing to admit, is about her being biracial.

Yes I know she's revealed her biracial struggles already, I just don't think that its the full story. She had identity struggles early in her life from her book, and to me that's the compelling story that Mariah can go deeper, that she needs to tell more about and many can likely relate because I think I'm not that interested in hearing another story about Motorolla [sic].
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 03:00)
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Daydream 30 - reflections (114,232) by Lighty from China
Maybe they are saving the whole Rotterdam concert for the 35th/40th anniversary of Daydream. Who knows?
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 02:48)
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Interesting video (114,231) by jaker20 from US
I didn't create an argument. You came out of the gate swinging and now you're getting censored, chill I'm just following what you started.

You're literally on a website that respect attribution of sources because that's how the internet is supposed to be, not even making money off Mariah, but diligently doing something because of love for her.

And here you are promoting AI, deepfakes, automation and scraping and stealing sources that even you said is easy to find on the internet, and automating them into sensationalism and playing with YouTube algorithm to earn money from materials they didn't even create.

And then you come back here from chatgpt to lay out and promote the process as some kind hard work that we should admire, because you know "that's how the internet works."

Mama you are lost my loves what you doing.
(Sunday 19 July 2026; 02:45)
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Daydream 30 (114,230) by Bill from the UK
No really my dear friend as the instrumentation is synth and Mariah's voice is electronically enhanced. Here are some examples of what I would say are more traditional acapellas rather than just vocal stems. And of course.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 23:22)
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Interesting video (114,229) by Zachariah from Croatia
I hope they will not make any movie about her because I just know that nobody will be able to portray her like we would expect.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 20:05)
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Interesting video (114,228) by Chicago Lamb from USA
1989-1998 surely was a love story. We never discuss the songs that Mariah wrote, inspired by her love of Tommy. To be Around You, Now That I Know, Forever, and then in the end Slipping Away, Whenever You Call, Butterfly at the end of their relationship. Alas, the love affair luster wasn't meant to last forever. What biopic consumers really want is the bad stuff, the reasons the relationship could no longer continue: The back-stabbing, betrayal, maniac control and mental spiral.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 13:56)
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Interesting video (114,227) by MusicfanJ from Germany
I also don't like AI videos, "songs", hosts, bands whatever at all. They are still missing a natural view and creative mind of a human being and always will. They just seem fake, it's hard to describe. They may be very "perfect" sometimes but that made them even more artificial. I watched the video and it was boring and nothing new. But the headline will generate some clicks.

Let's watch the Daydream concert in NYC or Tokyo. It will never get boring to me. The live version of "Open Arms" in Rotterdam is always a highlight too. I just wish she would have relessed the whole concert.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 13:47)
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Daydream 30 - reflections (114,226) by Bill from the UK
Okay so. I've had some time with the anniversary edition now and can post my thoughts properly. In terms of general ranking amongst her anniversary releases, Music Box is still, by far, the best. I would rank this as a respectable second. Brace yourself, it's a long read for anyone interested in what some anonymous loser on a Mariah forum thinks.

Part 1 - The Remaster
So the album has been remastered. My first listening experience was on my EarPods so I reserved judgement until I'd listened to it properly on my hi-fi and then my good headphones. Perhaps it is because I have listened to the album some 230,000 times since its release, but the remaster can be jarring at times. Fantasy seems somewhat murky now and is missing the bright vibrancy of the original. The low harmonies in the chorus being pushed forward in the mix, along with the bells being more prominent changes the overall feel of the record. Another noticeable change was with Looking In, and how the guitar was much more pronounced than the gentle background strums in the original. It is now almost in line with the lead vocal which is an odd choice. On the plus side, more vocal nuances are noticeable in tracks like Long Ago and Melt Away, but all told I prefer the original over the remaster. And this isn't me just stating the original because I've spent most of my life with it; the remaster of Rainbow is miles better than the trash output of the original album and is my absolute go-to when I play that album (always skipping Did I Do That of course).

The Amazon intros were okay, but as Jamie said she seemed somewhat spaced out and lethargic in her recollections, didn't really offer any new tidbits or nuggets about the songs, and glossed over half the album by not addressing half of the tracks. So, it's not a "track by track" commentary, more a handful of 30 second soundbites about the main tracks. Would have been nice for the opening and closing statements on the album to be longer and reflect where she was in her life at that point, where her head was at, her career, what she was aiming to achieve, initial concepts versus the final output, how it's aged in her mind, etc., especially as it was recorded with the backdrop of her marriage collapsing.

Part 2 - The Remixes
So the big players are here as expected - Fantasy with ODB as well as the Def Club Mix (not a patch on Dreamlover but a close second), Always Be My Baby with Da Brat, and the Chucky Remix of One Sweet Day, Good to see something completely new and original with the Eric Kupper mix of Underneath the Stars.

Part 3 - The B-sides and Demos
It's a shame there was no surprises like Music Box's Workin' Hard and My Prayer. Instead we have One Night and Slipping Away from The Rarities and nothing else. The acapellas I've already written about, though good to hear an extra 30 seconds of ad libbing that was previously hidden. The writing session demos are excellent, and the real highlight of the project. Would have been absolutely amazing to have this for every track.

Part 4 - The Live Tracks
Here's where I have a mild annoyance. I'm not sure why the MSG concert is a vinyl-exclusive. No reason why it couldn't form part of the digital release. I understand the CD cutting some tracks out to not seep into a third disc, but the digital album can be limitless, so that's a real shame to not have such a fantastic concert released to stream and download. The tracks selected for the digital release (Fantasy and OSD from MSG) were both previously released on singles at the time, as was Forever from Tokyo Dome, and later Underneath the Stats from Tokyo on The Rarities. The real keepers though are Open Arms and ABMB from Rotterdam Ahoy. Fantastic recordings and vocals, but it's annoyed me that the full concert is professionally available to be released (it was filmed too), but remains locked up. I understand keeping Daydream tracks on the anniversary edition, but she did some incredible versions of her other songs during that tour that ought to be put out there.

So yes. Overall I am happy and grateful to see such a wonderful album get the anniversary treatment, but a few marks were missed when compared against Music Box.

I am now hungry for the debut and Emotions to not be ignored and get some treatment very soon (35th/40th) as I have no doubt, especially with the debut, there is a wealth of material to unearth and celebrate.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 13:23)
Interesting video (114,225) by Bobby A from United States
I wonder if MC will ever allow her life story from 1989-1998 to be made into a movie. I am curious about those first 9 years of her career and her marriage to Tommy. She really did have a Princess Di wedding that fell apart so quickly during the course of two eras. Movie titles like The Songbird Supreme or Dear Mariah Carey would totally capture the essence of those years. I wonder what Tommy thinks of the Mariah Carey he sees on TV now. Anyhow I do think he geniunely loved MC and Emilio Estefan said that Tommy was devasted about the break up of their marriage.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 05:38)
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Interesting video (114,224) by Lambi from USA
Firstly, I didn't even acknowledge that you're correct, because it's not a text-to-speech video. I clearly disagreed. There are editing platforms with AI tools that can sequence footage, automate cuts, and speed up post-production. This isn't that.

If this were AI auto story generation, the output would be inconsistent, contextually inaccurate, and dizzying. Instead, there's a clear pre-written monologue carried by a real human voice, not a synthetic TTS engine.

The visuals track the narration with a level of precision that strongly indicates manual clip stitching and editing. There's virtually no evidentiary trace of automated story generation.

My point was broader than this specific video. It's entirely possible to produce an in-depth video essay while still using modern tools to streamline workflow and get your work out. If you want to be effective, you need to know how to scale an online business.

Using technology in production is obviously not the same thing as outsourcing authorship or narration. You're conflating fundamentally different processes, which makes your arguments invalid from the start. [censored]
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 04:35)
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Article: Mariah is giving "Daydream" fans the ultimate surprise (114,223) by Lainsky from Philippines
Only Mariah can do these kinds of releases from her previous works. Out of 33 tracks, only 15 tracks - tracks 7- 21, are the ultimate surprise here for the fans. I love the accapellas and session demos. They sound like they're lullabying me. Lol.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 02:55)
Interesting video (114,222) by jaker20 from US
With every post you're sounding more and more clueless. I get it, I had to explain it slowly to my mom too.

Now you're saying that's how the internet works, automation. Just a prior post you said he did extensive research. Make up your mind.

These content are scraped online fed to AI automation ok, wrapped into AI narration and deepfake thumbnail and sensational headline ok.

And yes that is literally the point, to create them with little effort. see, no buzzword. At least you agree it is automated. Just a prior post you said he went in-depth and put effort into research.

People like you is why these AI content are thriving. I explained it to my mom and how it's hurting the creative industry and he got it in 5 minutes. But you're just going on contracting yourself.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 02:36)
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