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About Lambi from USA:
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It's a wrap (114,036)
by Lambi from USA
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I think she does a good job. She finds ways to include them in her touring lifestyle, letting them perform while also letting them be kids and play. She even set up a mini pop-up lemonade stand with a whole cash register for them so they get excited and feel like they're contributing to the show too.
Rocky seems to include God a lot in his captions, and Roe seems very level-headed. They're surrounded 24/7 by trusted friends and professionals so she's definitely doing a better job of preserving their innocence. They are not being left alone with sketchy people like Mariah was with Alison's pimps.
The mafia have gone after her public reputation, her wealth, and her health. Family is the one thing she has now that's somewhat stable, and she is fighting tooth and nail to protect it and keep those relationships intact.
In her book, she denotes her children as one of her greatest gifts, alongside her tremendous musical talent. They hold such a magnitude of strength, healing and saving grace for her (like music do), and I'm so elated MC gets to have that. Dem kids truly are a gift from the Lord.
(Thursday 25 June 2026; 03:16)
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It's a wrap (114,032)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Yes, it's true. They are often copying it. The good and the bad. But sometimes it can also be the complete opposite. I know a lot of people that became the opposite of their parents. Even the stars can be the opposite. I find it fascinating that Steven Tyler's daughter, the beautiful Liv Tyler, looks so normal and not like the "Rock and Roll style" with all the bad habits that often come with it. But with Mariah, she did escape the poorness from the family. She became one of the biggest stars in music, broke every record, a real legend. But sadly in private life it looks more like copying, you're right. I just wish she could find a normal man, not only good looking clowns or partners that only wants the money and a bit fame. She so deserves a stable own family after all that mess. That would be healing for sure.
(Tuesday 23 June 2026; 12:32)
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It's a wrap (114,026)
by Lambi from USA
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I feel like she was pretty much the same until around 2014. Post-divorce, the triple D's and clown contour got a little too desperate. I think Nick leaving broke her to the core.
Mariah has always been about looks, in my opinion. I mean, it's Hollywood, you kind of have to be. She was always fixing her hair, even in the 90s, always making sure you shot her from her good side. It's just that in the 2000s, Britney, Christina, Beyoncé, Aaliyah, and other up-and-coming pop girlies all had formidable sex appeal. There was just more competition, and Mariah made sure she was up to par.
She stuck it out naturally for as long as possible, facially at least. Her look that night on Idol when she bopped Nicki's head off with, "Not everybody has that," looked like she was straight out of the Honey remix video.
The Stella era is really when she started heavily experimenting with Botox, which she most likely despised because she ended up redeeming herself in 2018 with yet another beauty peak and I honestly think she looks good even today. She hasn't had the bee-sting lips or the MJ nose.
She thickens her lips via makeup and, in my assessment, did a non-invasive nose slimming procedure, where they inject filler to achieve the desired shape but it's very minimal. She sort of just harmonizes with her natural features, which I actually appreciate. It's just the boobs that are overdone.
(Saturday 20 June 2026; 11:26)
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It's a wrap (114,017)
by Dave from USA
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I would agree. It is odd that once she broke away from Tommy, where you would think she would continue to shine personally, she actually seemed to have less and less self esteem publicly. I'm not sure if it was the declining voice, which appears shot now, or because she started to put so much of her identity on her antics and looks, that as she aged, she grew more insecure. I was watching an old tape from when I saw her live in 92. She was so alive up on stage and her voice was so incredible.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 20:36)
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Mariah in Jamaica 2015 concert (114,023)
by Lambi from USA
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I love 420-riah. LMAO. I'm forever impressed by the 2nd verse of WBT in Jamaica. You can tell she wrote the song because of the way she ad libbed her way through it and still perfectly sat right on top of the melody and instrumentation, freaking phenomenal musical genius. Peep, "I gotta change the station."
(Friday 19 June 2026; 23:35)
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Mariah in Jamaica 2015 concert (114,022)
by ADAM from USA
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On a positive note, I wanted to share with the community this link for MC's iconic Jamaica concert in 2015. This long form video is so heart warming to watch. Her adlibs were so creative and interesting. Her spirit was everything. Her tone was drastically different from the records but it didn't matter. She was a free spirit and I loved to watch every minute of this. I wish she would open up about her struggles as this person nowadays is a ghost of her former self. The amount of stuff she didn't address in her memoir easily warrants another book or two. I'm not anxious to see her memoir on film with Lee Daniels as I feel she's not an objective source to document what really happened and as today, the most interesting talking points would be what happened to her voice and we know she won't even touch the topic.
(Friday 19 June 2026; 21:25)
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It's a wrap (114,014)
by Lambi from USA
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I agree with the untapped comedienne potential. People with deep trauma use humor to cope and inevitably become hilarious. Her imitation and accent skills are so underrated.
But fair, she is essentially a living corpse these days, not sure how she is going to navigate a movie set. I too am exhausted seeing her with no spark. She's rather dull even when she should be excited talking about something she loves like songwriting. The NY Times interview was saddening.
I miss pre-breakdown Mariah. She was so refreshingly interesting, articulate and intelligent.
(Thursday 18 June 2026; 11:24)
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It's a wrap (114,008)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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I never said she's the next great phenomenal actress. All I said is that maybe there is some untapped potential there and that it's something Mariah could try again to get herself out of the rut she's in.
I swear some of you people are so argumentative and catty and want to misrepresent or malign people who post something that even slightly challenges your worldview.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 12:35)
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The perfect role (114,007)
by Lambi from USA
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The thing is my pitch would be easy for MC. She already knows the struggle of a singing single mom via Patricia. She also know what it's like to be a "has been" and she's got a such a great sense of humor. This would just be her coming back to being little Mirage in middle school coping with only having 3 shirts on rotation by being a hilarious class clown. The material is make or break for acting, it needs to be right and she would just be a natural in comedy.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 12:09)
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The perfect role (114,005)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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If Mariah goes back into acting, a comedy or drama-dy is the genre that could fit her mediocre ability and personality. She's witty and funny. It might work. However, if she's really interested in acting, she can go to an acting workshop. I believe it would not be that hard. As a singer, she draws from her emotions; acting demands emotional depth to make performances believable and impactful for viewers.
(Wednesday 17 June 2026; 05:17)
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The perfect role (113,998)
by Lambi from USA
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I actually see Mariah doing a comedy classic. She could play as a poor, struggling single mom who's way past her prime but still convinced she's one performance away from superstardom.
She bounces around open mics, hotel lounges, bar gigs, county fairs, and singing competitions trying to make ends meet while demanding full diva treatment everywhere she goes. Her kids could be like, "I think only 18 year old girls should wear that." Or "Mom, again, no one knows that song anymore."
My bubbling scene idea is she gets booked to sing at a bar and arrogantly tells everyone, "Vegas called." People assume she's headlining a casino but it's actually just a run-down tavern. It'd also be freaking hilarious seeing her scramble together a superstar look with blue eye shadow, on a dollar-store budget.
The comedy comes from her having the confidence of a global superstar while living a life that's the opposite; it's rather unbelievably sad and pathetic. Add alcohol addiction somewhere. Couple of questionable low-life men. Think delusional, hysterical, unhinged, chaotic, and weirdly inspiring. Of course, the life lesson would be how family is really all that matters at the end. Working title: Ghetto Diva.
Everyone should throw their scene ideas here and we should help pitch it. It would help her connect with Patricia's story and heal her somehow. Comedy has always been her coping mechanism and I think it'd be fun to see her do some acting that's less serious. I honestly think she would do a good job.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:12)
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It's a wrap (113,996)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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Who says you have to be "good" in order to pursue film and TV roles? There are plenty of people in the film and TV industry who are mediocre. Just look at anything that Tyler Perry has put out and you can see that superb acting chops are not a requirement to be in a hit film or TV show. At least it would be something different than robotically miming past hits.
And you forget... Mariah has already tried writing and producing for her other artists in the past with pretty middling results. I think her ego is too big to go back to letting other artists to sing stuff that she's written and produced. In the past, most of the things she wrote for other people were cast offs - songs she didn't want to keep for herself because they weren't very good. She's not disciplined enough to do what Diane Warren, Babyface and other professional songwriters do.
(Tuesday 16 June 2026; 12:26)
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It's a wrap (113,990)
by Lambi from USA
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JD is actually good though. I love Cruise Control, Love Story, and The One. But it did get stale around MIAM. They brought nothing new to the table.
He did evolve as a producer and got with the times eventually, though I'm not sure if I'd be excited. His latest hits are subpar: Pressure and Soft Girl Era, both by Ari Lennox. IMHO, A No No, written by Muni Long, was infinitely better.
Maybe Mariah, along with BMC, will bring out the best in him. The trio worked on SIO and DFAU, and they were solid bops. She's really pulling all her power moves to retire on a good note, it seems like.
The refusal to tap out is actually crazy. She's been flopping since Memoirs. It's been 17 years, and she is still going. I gotta respect the hustle.
(Monday 15 June 2026; 17:26)
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by Bill from the UK
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I did see that my friend, and like every time I see her and JD in that damn studio together I inwardly sigh because she's once again staying in the same gear she's been in since Butterfly. At this point I'm wishing they are there to close that blessed studio down once and for all.
(Monday 15 June 2026; 14:51)
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MC songwriting (113,987)
by Lambi from USA
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She kind of already wrote about those though: "Where do I go from here? How do I disappear?" is from the tremendous embarrassment of NYE. "I remember so many nights in the bed alone" is a precursor to being a single mom, and "all my tears dissipate cause our love is supernatural" is peak motherhood. I think it was Lara who said "but when you leave, you take a little bit of fiber that's embedded in me" may be about Roc & Roe going to Nick's for the weekend, and I actually agree with that read.
But true, I'm not exactly sure why there isn't an easily distinguishable theme in some of her songs. She writes rather vaguely. I tried to decipher HFIA, and what I got was essentially loving someone through the highs and lows of a relationship: the glory, the shakes, and withdrawals. The heart of the song is probably her children, though. It makes sense because they are the closest to her, and sadly they would also be the ones most affected by her mental illness.
Her writing is pretty abstract in my opinion, even in Portrait. It's all broad concepts and suggestive language. Languishing and TAOLG also fall into the same category. It's still very emotional but you can't always tell what/who it's about, at least for the average listener. I'd say she still managed to deliver the true emotion of those songs, but in a more indirect, symbolic way, probably for a reason. She is queen of discretion after all.
(Monday 15 June 2026; 11:39)
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MC songwriting (113,980)
by jaker20 from US
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I think she opened up with Here for It All (the song), but the rest of the album have generic lyrics because she doesn't want to open up. She can't keep in singing about things from 30 years ago, which is her way of hiding.
Why can't she write about motherhood, about the hardships of being alone without partner, about aging, about being viewed differently by the public. It would her to sing some lines and thoughts in The Meaning of Mariah.
But I think she is scared. Frankly it's easier to write experiences for a book matter-of-factly, than put emotions into those words through a song, because she is an artist.
(Monday 15 June 2026; 02:47)
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It's a wrap (113,973)
by Lambi from USA
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I was kind of half joking. She's probably capable of walking by herself when the high heels are off, but because of her perpetual low energy, she seems like the type who would rather not walk these days.
In 2018, when she publicly revealed her bipolar disorder, she said that she finally sought treatment (therapy and medication) after the hardest couple of years she had been through, so it was only then that she began receiving consistent, intensive treatment.
They definitely got her hooked on something, and to be completely honest, it feels like they're just slowly walking her into fully losing the spark she once had. She's not at all any better. In fact, she seem to be more exhausted than ever about life as the years go by.
(Sunday 14 June 2026; 13:56)
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It's a wrap (113,972)
by TJ from Norway
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Your last point made me laugh. It is so sad if that is the real problem with her creativity. It is time to claim those insurance money.
(Sunday 14 June 2026; 11:32)
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It's a wrap (113,971)
by Lambi from USA
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She's definitely still one hell of a writer though. With You proves that. And if you took away some of the production and the state of her voice, Cry, HFIA, and NII were pretty stellar work.
But fair, meds absolutely affect your creative process. She still has her writing chops, but because of this seemingly declining health she's got going on, it just takes longer.
Another thing I noticed is that Mariah has always said she likes to go on walks for ideas to come and marinate. It's also a way for creatives to work through a mental block. She can't even walk now.
(Sunday 14 June 2026; 08:15)
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by Lara from Middle East
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Her voice is seriously damaged from all these years, which is somehow expected. And her writing skills are nowhere where they're used to be, and that is probably from her medication literally blocking her brain. Most bipolar artists get creative during (hypo)mania episodes and the medication work on blocking those (among with the depressive ones). Mariah knows it but can't do anything about it, I guess that explains the lack of energy we see. Don't expect anything more from her, at this point I don't know if she's still enjoying making music with all her limitations.
(Sunday 14 June 2026; 00:21)
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Everything Fades Away (113,957)
by Lambi from USA
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The concept of her voice is still so mind-boggling to me. Feather-light on the soft tones, delicately sweet, with subtle built-in rasps that make it impossible to duplicate. Then she belts with such a force of resonance, yet the opulence stays intact. She is unbelievably ethereal in every register, it really doesn't make sense.
When you listen to the a cappella versions of Forever, OSD, My All, and Outside, you would actually be a fool not to admit she has the absolute greatest singing voice, nobody honestly comes close. Patti LaBelle was correct in her assessment when she said Mariah has the most phenomenal voice.
Your talent is essentially borrowed, and Mariah can confidently face the Creator one day and say, "Lord, I did the best with what You gave me." She did the most while she had it in pristine condition. For that, I'll always be eternally grateful.
(Friday 12 June 2026; 15:02)
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Everything Fades Away (113,949)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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Yes, I used her Music Box album filler song to describe the current status of our queen's glamorous life. Come on, lambs. You cannot expect her to be the '90s Mariah. She's way past that. It's already written in history. Her glittery music career is taking its natural course. The peaks and valleys, and another set of peaks and valleys, had happened already. I am not saying she may not peak again. She may, but also may not, depending on her choices and the public's. However, let's face the hard reality that she's slowly fading away, at least the music she's putting out there recently. Everything fades like Aretha, Whitney, Janet, Madonna, and even Celine, Britney, and Christina A. They are no longer the singers they used to be, and neither is Mariah Carey. We can only hope for and pray for another peak, but we can also choose to be truthful, be happy, and content with the contribution she already made in the industry, the history she has written, and enjoy the songs and albums she worked really hard to put out there for us to enjoy forever.
Mariah can still do what she does to stay relevant. She was born to do it. However, we may put our expectations realistically. Her voice can never be the same. She's effing 57 years old and not 27, may I remind everyone? And singers can still sing in their old age, but not the way they sounded when they were young. Our speaking voice naturally loses its strength, much like the singing voice. It's a hard truth that we all need to accept instead of being disillusioned about her voice and singing career. Whether we like it or not, her light gradually dims, and she can only extend this before it completely fades, depending on the choices she makes in life. Everything eventually fades away.
(Thursday 11 June 2026; 05:54)
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Article: Kris Jenner and Mariah Carey go glam for dinner at Giorgio Baldi (113,925)
by Lambi from USA
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That's a bit crass. She's obsessed with being fabulous, yes, but at the core of it is growing up poor and being called ugly as a child. There's also the pressure that comes with being a global superstar, and Nick having a new supermodel by his side every other week probably doesn't help either.
The fact that she did a Hallmark movie with C-list actors debunks the idea that she's focused on maintaining an A-list image at all costs. And looking back after the series of legal battles, James feels more like a "handler" whose actions were meant to derail her wealth and damage her touring revenue via NYE disaster. She probably woke up this and is a lot more careful now on who she lets in.
But fair take with "it's all for the gram, the likes, and access to networks". I'm usually cynical too, but I get the sense that Kris sees Mariah as genuine. Mariah was reportedly the only person who brought Kris a gift on her birthday, and even Mariah's memoir came packaged with a tissue, signaling that she was about to share something deeply personal. I don't think Kris can stomach being fake to someone that's been that openly vulnerable with her.
It might even be the other way around. In an industry full of people putting on a façade, Kris may have found a rare bit of genuine sincerity in Mariah so she really values the friendship. Just a thought to ponder.
(Saturday 6 June 2026; 06:03)
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Article: Kris Jenner and Mariah Carey go glam for dinner at Giorgio Baldi (113,918)
by ADAM from USA
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I think Mariah is obsessed with status. She wants to be viewed as A-list at all times. James Packer was her fiancée because he was a billionaire and that was an obvious flex. Kris Jenner is A-list in Hollywood for a long time so the associate makes sense. I don't think in reality any of these Hollywood friendships are really deep. It's all for the gram and likes and access to networks. Mariah seems only interested in her looks and wealth since her voice is gone.
(Friday 5 June 2026; 04:16)
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Article: Kris Jenner and Mariah Carey go glam for dinner at Giorgio Baldi (113,916)
by Lambi from USA
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They're neighbors in Calabasas. Kris was one of the people Mariah sent her book to. We can assume she's aware of MC's lack of family support growing up and so I actually appreciated when she rallied the whole entire Kardashian clan to see a Christmas show. Kris' own words: "I'm so blessed and grateful for our friendship." We'll probably just leave it at that. They seem sweet and they really show up for you.
(Friday 5 June 2026; 00:28)
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Article: Kris Jenner and Mariah Carey go glam for dinner at Giorgio Baldi (113,915)
by Stacey from USA
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Given the concerns we have for MC's mental health, I think I'd be more worried if Mariah chose to isolate herself rather then spending time with friends. I hope she enjoyed her night out with Kris.
(Thursday 4 June 2026; 18:00)
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Article: Mariah Carey to take Christmastime special international (113,897)
by Lambi from USA
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I love this so much. Fresh off the peak of her superstardom and commercial success, she was probably at her most confident/ambitious state, eager to really meet and exceed expectations even way more. Also happened to be in a perfect pristine vocal condition; right in between MB and DD. I'm shamelessly on board with this being the Mariah most will remember. I know WBT is absolutely up to par, but that God-given youthful tone she had in 94 just can't be quite recaptured. She didn't exactly step back vocally either. It's a beautiful showcase of her immense musical talent and I'm glad everyone is reminded annually.
(Sunday 31 May 2026; 04:57)
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Article: Mariah Carey to take Christmastime special international (113,896)
by Lambi from USA
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Christmas could have potentially belonged to Whitney, Aretha, or any other vocally gifted soulful singer, but it was Mariah who God ultimately handpicked for the season. She was given an assignment in 94, and she simply did a phenomenal job.
It's a double-edged sword though, it's a yearly commercial phenomenon but it also does inevitably reduce her to Christmas. However, from a business stand point, it makes perfect sense to jump in on a stock that predictably spikes up every November and December. You'd be an idiot to not.
It may have irked her not having massive soundtrack success like Whitney and Celine did but now that All I Want has reached full resurgence and completely dominates every holiday season, I don't think she's capable of being bitter at all. You just can't be. You just become perpetually festive.
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Article: Mariah Carey to take Christmastime special international (113,896)
by Lambi from USA
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Christmas could have potentially belonged to Whitney, Aretha, or any other vocally gifted soulful singer, but it was Mariah who God ultimately handpicked for the season. She was given an assignment in 94, and she simply did a phenomenal job.
It's a double-edged sword though, it's a yearly commercial phenomenon but it also does inevitably reduce her to Christmas. However, from a business stand point, it makes perfect sense to jump in on a stock that predictably spikes up every November and December. You'd be an idiot to not.
It may have irked her not having massive soundtrack success like Whitney and Celine did but now that All I Want has reached full resurgence and completely dominates every holiday season, I don't think she's capable of being bitter at all. You just can't be. You just become perpetually festive.
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Article: Mariah Carey to take Christmastime special international (113,886)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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Based on the comments I've read so far, more than half of the people are unhappy with this news. Well, IMHO, no one should be scared or worried about Mariah's legacy. Whether we like it or not, Christmas is already a part of that legacy, a huge one, which makes sense since the song and the album peaked and achieved success in the latter part of her career. So, for the younger fans or people who witnessed it, they have come to know her through it more than the impact she has already made in the first fifteen years of her music career. For the people and lambs who witnessed her success in those times, whether we like it or not, that success is already part of her legacy. Most people from that era will always remember her for the songs and albums that profoundly impacted their lives. That kind of legacy is even more significant than "All I Want for Christmas Is You". Mariah Carey will always be celebrated for her vocal talent, chart-topping successes, and timeless, heartfelt lyrics, as well as for her inspiring songs that have influenced and transformed the pop and R&B music industry. If these elements don't define Mariah's legacy, then I don't know what does. While many people over the past ten years may associate her primarily with Christmas, music enthusiasts from the '90s and 2000s know that Mariah's legacy extends far beyond the holiday season.
(Friday 29 May 2026; 10:45)
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Webmaster (113,882)
by Lambi from USA
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Unrelated to Mariah but just curious. I was always trained to use the em dash (-) but I notice you always reduce them to just an en dash (-) which totally has a different function in grammar. What is the reason you do that? Is it simply to shorten the messages?
(Friday 29 May 2026; 01:57)
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What a breath of fresh air MCA is (113,861)
by Lambi from USA
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I loved the proper introduction and résumé, Syed. I appreciate your well thought-out first post. You are rather expressive, well-meaning and polite. This board is categorically on its own lane. All kinds of interesting topics. All kinds of characters. Welcome aboard and I hope you keep connecting with other lifelong lambs.
(Monday 25 May 2026; 12:38)
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What a breath of fresh air MCA is (113,849)
by Syed from UK
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Hey everyone. I never knew about this site until today. I can't begin to tell you how refreshing it is to see actual conversations about our queen as opposed to an endless barrage of GIF's and emoji's under every Mariah post on Facebook, Insta, etc. And well articulated conversations - at that. I might not completely agree with every comment I've read, I think 1 or 2 border on overly critical, but it's good to see a diverse mixture of opinions from Lambs, without overt censorship.
I agree with some of the viewpoints here that Mariah increasingly does not seem like her usual self these days. It may be her condition, a side effect of medication, or past (and recent) trauma resurfacing, a combination of all the above, or... something unrelated. As Lambs, the best thing we can do is to support Mariah in any we we can. Because that's what she did for us through countless songs such as: Hero, Can't take that away, Make it happen, and so many others. We also need to overlook any behaviors we might not agree with because A) It's hard to trust anything you see online anymore (thanks AI) and media never shows us the true picture, only a distorted version that "sells" better. And B) We are not in her shoes, as much as we may think we know her, we only know her through the lens of the media, mostly. What she may be going through or battling internally and how they might manifest outwardly are things we need to be mindful of. Just be kind. As she has always been to us.
What do I feel could help? Well... if I had a magic wand I'd whisk Mariah away to a place where she could spend some time being in touch with nature, walk down a street without being recognized, and feel genuine excitement reconnecting with the simple things in life. It may not solve everything but I could literally guarantee that she'd feel a positive difference. Call it intuition (I share a lot of uncanny coincidences with Mariah) or just my observation of Mariah over the years and knowing the person she is beneath the exterior.
About me: - Lamb since 1993 - when I first heard Dreamlover in a clothes store. - I can confidently say I wouldn't be where I am today, without her music to help me through so many rough times. - Creator of the "40 Hidden Mariah songs challenge" which is a tribute to Mimi plus fun Easter Egg hunt for the Lambily, you can catch it here if you'd like to try solving it. - Recorded and released my own song in 2 languages based on a wish to "pay forward" what Mariah's music did for me, with a song that gives others hope. Took me just 20 years to make it happen.
Have a great weekend everyone and again really nice to meet you all.
(Saturday 23 May 2026; 19:26)
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Mariah cover songs (113,844)
by Lambi from USA
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I remember liking #Beautiful as a song, but I could not get past how dried up her breathy head voice was; therefore I never played the song as much. It's a feeling I hadn't felt about her voice before at the time. There were subtleties of it with MC2U too, but I was still able to get on with When Christmas Comes.
She eventually redeemed herself, though. I really liked her whispers in Stay Long Love You, Giving Me Life, With You, and The Distance, probably because of the way they were mixed sonically: just a bit of soft pitch correction, airy reverb, minimal compression, and high-end EQ to fine-tune the breathy tone. She also harmonized them with elements of her lower register. It's hauntingly darker, smoky, and somewhat fresh.
I think it's the piano-belting vocal-type songs that aren't really hitting the spot. Frankenstein approach is pretty accurate. Also if we didn't know, we'd probably assume Cry, Camouflage, Portrait, and HFIA belonged on the same album just because of how similar the high belts sound.
(Wednesday 20 May 2026; 12:12)
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Mariah cover songs (113,823)
by Bill from the UK
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It's an oddity in her catalogue because her other covers have all been really, really good. And she sort of brought it back with My Love. Although her voice is shot now she managed to pull it off and it's probably my favourite from the LP.
I think because MIAM had such a Frankenstein approach to the vocals, all super engineered, enhanced, pitched up, and cut and spliced to mask how bad her voice has gotten, it just doesn't even sound like her. More like an AI rendition of what Mariah would do. Which, in fact, is what it probably was.
(Friday 15 May 2026; 09:29)
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Reported attempt to put Mariah under guardianship/conservatorship (113,843)
by Lambi from USA
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Hi lamb. I recommend reading the book Hollywood Babylon. It highlights:
• Exploitation by managers/studios/family. • Repeated public breakdown/mental illness narratives. • The entertainment industry profiting from vulnerable stars.
The recurring theme is that stars are treated more like assets than people; controlled financially, medically, and publicly. They sort of follow the same playbook anytime someone tries to get out of major contracts. I believe Mariah survived 2001 by the grace of God.
As much I think she is tremendously strong and is a true survivor, I also think after decades of atrocities against your life and legacy, you are inevitably going to be fatigued, which is what I've been feeling from her in these last years. Her overall demeanor, even when laughing, still has that cloud hovering over it. There is such a deep sense of sadness in her eyes that you can just feel.
(Wednesday 20 May 2026; 00:17)
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Reported attempt to put Mariah under guardianship/conservatorship (113,830)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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I'm currently listening to the audiobook of Diane Dimond's book "We're Here to Help: When Guardianship Goes Wrong", which is about abuses of guardianship like those committed against Britney Spears.
I just came across a passage where Diane Dimond lists celebrity cases where someone attempted or proposed a guardianship/conservatorship and Mariah's name was mentioned alongside B.B. King, Lindsay Lohan, Charlie Sheen and others. Has anyone else read or heard anything about this?
It doesn't surprise me that someone tried this against Mariah and it seems most likely to have occurred during the 2001 hospitalizations or the 2016 incident. Stella seems the most likely culprit in my opinion. Dimond's book makes it seem like the system is very easy to weaponize for financial gain. No wonder Mariah was so outspoken in her support for Britney.
(Sunday 17 May 2026; 21:21)
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Gamma (113,792)
by Lambi from USA
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I've only set up a couple of live session sets and haven't quite crack any of Mariah's circle because there's a clear divide between backstage and tech but I haven't forgotten about your request.
(Friday 8 May 2026; 09:32)
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Gamma (113,788)
by Bill from the UK
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I would have been hilarious if Lambi went to all that trouble to get that job as Galatic Head of NDAs at Gamma and then Mariah went and quit lol. I'm just yanking your chain sweetie pie.
(Thursday 7 May 2026; 21:35)
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Generation (113,789)
by Lambi from USA
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Not really an album for gen Z. It's more singles: Obsessed, It's A Wrap and WBT all collectively represent her to the youngin's ears because of their virality on TikTok.
(Thursday 7 May 2026; 22:59)
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Generation (113,774)
by Tevin from USA
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So I was thinking about the impact that Mariah's albums have had with the GP throughout her career. I know we all love list here lol, so here is my list of non Christmas albums that I think had the biggest success with each generation.
Gen X = Music Box Millennials = TEOM Gen Z = Memoirs
Across all Generations = Daydream (ABMB and Fantasy) still sound fresh and are on constant rotation even today. What do you all think? Would you change anything on this list?
Also, I still find it interesting (although I love the album) that Memoirs seemed to be loved by the younger GP rather than many of Mariah's veteran fans.
(Tuesday 5 May 2026; 17:07)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,770)
by Lambi from USA
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Page 128: "In the beginning, Tommy protected me. He shielded me from all the people who thought I owed them something or who wanted to use me." I would not be shocked if this is why Brenda was dropped from Sony in such a cutthroat way.
It's also interesting that, on the very next pages, Mariah elaborates on how she found the perfect house for her mom, how she handpicked every detail because she knew what her mom liked, and how hugely important it was to her to finally find some stability for her family. After reading it, it makes Brenda's request for a house all the more absurd.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 21:17)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,766)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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I agree. Brenda and Arthur Baker both come across like they have chips on their shoulders in that interview. Arthur is probably jealous that Mariah went with Tommy Mottola and Sony and worked with producers other than him. Both were seeming to imply that Mariah made up portions of her "being discovered" story, but I question their motivations.
It was unrealistic for Brenda to expect so many favors from Mariah simply because Brenda was helpful to her in getting signed. Brenda was Mariah's employer, so their relationship was primarily a professional one. A former employer typically shouldn't be expecting an employee to help them out after the contractual obligations are fulfilled. Mariah has never portrayed that relationship as super close personal relationship in the manner that Brenda has, and I think there's a reason for that. Watching that interview, I also noticed that Brenda gets song titles from Mariah's first album and demo wrong - so I am not sure I completely trust her version of events.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 12:55)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,765)
by Lambi from USA
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You're actually correct, I don't work for Gamma. I went there solely for contacts and now work in tech for a touring agency. We're not supposed to speak negatively about artists. This is kind of incognito though, but you never know.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 06:45)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,764)
by Belinda Vasquez from USA
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Please stop acting like you work for Gramma. You don't.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 03:48)
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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,763)
by Lambi from USA
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Turns out I'm wrong. She called up TMZ to set the record straight. She does this every time to clap back. (Example: JLO: "She's forgetful I guess." Hoodriah: "I still don't know her.")
Peep the interviewers who was prompted to say: "You're a legend, you deserve everything." She just posted Underneath The Stars as well to remind everyone how phenomenal her songwriting is.
We know snubs make the headlines and we also know Mariah's will be extra sensationalized because she is actually a legend. But now I'm kind of convinced there is an effort to defame her just from the way PR reacted and handled it. I was genuinely surprised she actually took the time to do all that when there's literally so much cooking right now.
(Sunday 3 May 2026; 13:47)
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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,666)
by Lambi from USA
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In a way, I sort of agree, she may have been downplaying its significance. It's about legends, and she is unequivocally one. On one hand, it is objectively unfair, but on the other hand, she's been robbed so many freaking times that she's probably been numb for a while to the lack of impartiality. It's nothing she hasn't experienced before, so she just defaults to the nonchalant, "I don't really care."
(Sunday 19 April 2026; 04:21)
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The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,761)
by Lambi from USA
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This is all in jest so I'm safe from my NDA. I'm forever cackling at:
9. Scared of Michael Jackson's casket 30. Avoiding wrinkles (courtesy of me)
Keep it going.
(Sunday 3 May 2026; 13:23)
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The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,735)
by Bill from the UK
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Thanks all. Due to public demand here is the current list of excuses for why Mariah can't or won't sing live anymore. These have been collected over the years from either Mariah herself or from Yaas Queens on this very board. Remember, this is all in jest and we love everyone, but these have all genuinely been said out loud and seriously since 1997 to date.
1. Ear monitor malfunction 2. No humidifiers 3. Too cold 4. Too hot 5. Stage fright 6. Corset too tight 7. Heels too high 8. Preserving her voice 9. Scared of Michael Jackson's casket 10. Didn't want to upstage the Queen of Soul 11. Wanted to respect her peers 12. Bronchitis 13. Stressful divorce/break up 14. Arm in a sling 15. Pregnant 16. Not pregnant 17. Nodules 18. Too many splashes 19. Medicated 20. Backing singers missed their cue 21. Backing singers singing her part now baby 22. Foiled by Dick Clarke Productions 23. Late for the sound check 24. Not enough sleep 25. Too much sleep 26. Bipolar 27. Food poisoning 28. Mic wasn't turned up 29. Shit happens 30. Avoiding wrinkles 31. Nothing to prove 32. Prioritising her children 33. Too early in the morning 34. Too late at night 35. Broken hip 36. Alzheimer's 37. Fibromyalgia 38. Botched vocal surgery 39. Inadequate breath support 40. Preparing for Christmas shows
(Wednesday 29 April 2026; 09:44)
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