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About Lambi from USA:
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Gamma (113,792)
by Lambi from USA
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I've only set up a couple of live session sets and haven't quite crack any of Mariah's circle because there's a clear divide between backstage and tech but I haven't forgotten about your request.
(Friday 8 May 2026; 09:32)
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Gamma (113,788)
by Bill from the UK
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I would have been hilarious if Lambi went to all that trouble to get that job as Galatic Head of NDAs at Gamma and then Mariah went and quit lol. I'm just yanking your chain sweetie pie.
(Thursday 7 May 2026; 21:35)
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Generation (113,789)
by Lambi from USA
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Not really an album for gen Z. It's more singles: Obsessed, It's A Wrap and WBT all collectively represent her to the youngin's ears because of their virality on TikTok.
(Thursday 7 May 2026; 22:59)
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Generation (113,774)
by Tevin from USA
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So I was thinking about the impact that Mariah's albums have had with the GP throughout her career. I know we all love list here lol, so here is my list of non Christmas albums that I think had the biggest success with each generation.
Gen X = Music Box Millennials = TEOM Gen Z = Memoirs
Across all Generations = Daydream (ABMB and Fantasy) still sound fresh and are on constant rotation even today. What do you all think? Would you change anything on this list?
Also, I still find it interesting (although I love the album) that Memoirs seemed to be loved by the younger GP rather than many of Mariah's veteran fans.
(Tuesday 5 May 2026; 17:07)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,770)
by Lambi from USA
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Page 128: "In the beginning, Tommy protected me. He shielded me from all the people who thought I owed them something or who wanted to use me." I would not be shocked if this is why Brenda was dropped from Sony in such a cutthroat way.
It's also interesting that, on the very next pages, Mariah elaborates on how she found the perfect house for her mom, how she handpicked every detail because she knew what her mom liked, and how hugely important it was to her to finally find some stability for her family. After reading it, it makes Brenda's request for a house all the more absurd.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 21:17)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,766)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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I agree. Brenda and Arthur Baker both come across like they have chips on their shoulders in that interview. Arthur is probably jealous that Mariah went with Tommy Mottola and Sony and worked with producers other than him. Both were seeming to imply that Mariah made up portions of her "being discovered" story, but I question their motivations.
It was unrealistic for Brenda to expect so many favors from Mariah simply because Brenda was helpful to her in getting signed. Brenda was Mariah's employer, so their relationship was primarily a professional one. A former employer typically shouldn't be expecting an employee to help them out after the contractual obligations are fulfilled. Mariah has never portrayed that relationship as super close personal relationship in the manner that Brenda has, and I think there's a reason for that. Watching that interview, I also noticed that Brenda gets song titles from Mariah's first album and demo wrong - so I am not sure I completely trust her version of events.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 12:55)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,765)
by Lambi from USA
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You're actually correct, I don't work for Gamma. I went there solely for contacts and now work in tech for a touring agency. We're not supposed to speak negatively about artists. This is kind of incognito though, but you never know.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 06:45)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,764)
by Belinda Vasquez from USA
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Please stop acting like you work for Gramma. You don't.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 03:48)
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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,763)
by Lambi from USA
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Turns out I'm wrong. She called up TMZ to set the record straight. She does this every time to clap back. (Example: JLO: "She's forgetful I guess." Hoodriah: "I still don't know her.")
Peep the interviewers who was prompted to say: "You're a legend, you deserve everything." She just posted Underneath The Stars as well to remind everyone how phenomenal her songwriting is.
We know snubs make the headlines and we also know Mariah's will be extra sensationalized because she is actually a legend. But now I'm kind of convinced there is an effort to defame her just from the way PR reacted and handled it. I was genuinely surprised she actually took the time to do all that when there's literally so much cooking right now.
(Sunday 3 May 2026; 13:47)
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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,666)
by Lambi from USA
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In a way, I sort of agree, she may have been downplaying its significance. It's about legends, and she is unequivocally one. On one hand, it is objectively unfair, but on the other hand, she's been robbed so many freaking times that she's probably been numb for a while to the lack of impartiality. It's nothing she hasn't experienced before, so she just defaults to the nonchalant, "I don't really care."
(Sunday 19 April 2026; 04:21)
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The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,761)
by Lambi from USA
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This is all in jest so I'm safe from my NDA. I'm forever cackling at:
9. Scared of Michael Jackson's casket 30. Avoiding wrinkles (courtesy of me)
Keep it going.
(Sunday 3 May 2026; 13:23)
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The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,735)
by Bill from the UK
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Thanks all. Due to public demand here is the current list of excuses for why Mariah can't or won't sing live anymore. These have been collected over the years from either Mariah herself or from Yaas Queens on this very board. Remember, this is all in jest and we love everyone, but these have all genuinely been said out loud and seriously since 1997 to date.
1. Ear monitor malfunction 2. No humidifiers 3. Too cold 4. Too hot 5. Stage fright 6. Corset too tight 7. Heels too high 8. Preserving her voice 9. Scared of Michael Jackson's casket 10. Didn't want to upstage the Queen of Soul 11. Wanted to respect her peers 12. Bronchitis 13. Stressful divorce/break up 14. Arm in a sling 15. Pregnant 16. Not pregnant 17. Nodules 18. Too many splashes 19. Medicated 20. Backing singers missed their cue 21. Backing singers singing her part now baby 22. Foiled by Dick Clarke Productions 23. Late for the sound check 24. Not enough sleep 25. Too much sleep 26. Bipolar 27. Food poisoning 28. Mic wasn't turned up 29. Shit happens 30. Avoiding wrinkles 31. Nothing to prove 32. Prioritising her children 33. Too early in the morning 34. Too late at night 35. Broken hip 36. Alzheimer's 37. Fibromyalgia 38. Botched vocal surgery 39. Inadequate breath support 40. Preparing for Christmas shows
(Wednesday 29 April 2026; 09:44)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,760)
by Lambi from USA
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She does this now because she's read her book. It's the same as Miley Cyrus suddenly flip flopping from, "That's part of her shtick, I can see through that. It's about Mimi. It's about her" to "This is too iconic. I could've missed the award, that's fine, but not Mariah Carey."
They realize Mariah has lived an extremely troubled life ever since childhood. They know she's a survivor and is a genuinely good person. Their beefs are insignificant compared to all the bigger fish she's been frying.
I would actually respect Brenda if she had just said, "You know, maybe I did push it a bit too much. Maybe I asked for too much favor when she hadn't even reached stardom yet. I was a mother at 19, eventually single, and was scared shitless about the future of my son. I needed security and subconsciously tried to get the most out of Mariah. I want to apologize to her if I made her feel like she owed me her career."
That would ring absolutely true to me. But she chooses to go on a virtue signaling ramble. People can actually understand and handle the truth, just say it. We will get it. We've all been teenagers in survival mode. She's matured now, brain fully developed so it's totally okay to take accountability on mistakes you made when you were young.
I don't doubt Mariah's friendship meant something, but I do know it's perpetually distanced for a reason. MC has great pattern recognition about these type of people. She intuitively just knows.
(Sunday 3 May 2026; 12:26)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,758)
by Bill from the UK
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That's an odd take. Personally, I thought what Mariah said to Brenda was pretty cold. Brenda seemed quite genuine and caring for Mariah, and still roots for her now. She seemed sincerely heartbroken over losing Mariah's friendship several times. I'm glad she's happy, is healthy, is still making music, and is content and settled. And I thank her for opening the door for Mariah to enter into all of our lives and bring us the joy and happiness she has over all these years.
(Saturday 2 May 2026; 23:01)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,757)
by Lambi from USA
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MC saying "What do you want me to do? Be indebted to you for the rest of my life?" is accurate. Like I said Mariah is smart. Brenda introducing an ultimatum was weird. "If I get you a record deal, you're gonna buy me my first house, right?" Then making her sign it, "I Mariah Carey will buy Brenda a house if I get famous" she's framing it in jest now but you don't formalize a "joke" with a written agreement unless you're hoping it holds weight later. It's so deeply manipulative.
She's another Morgan, "There wouldn't be a Mariah Carey if it wasn't for me." They're those type of people who help because they know there's a big trade. None of it was ever really from the heart because the entitlement to Mariah's wealth thereafter is ridiculous.
(Friday 1 May 2026; 23:02)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,745)
by Haiji from United States
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Any thoughts? After watching this, I actually feel bad for her. I'm not sure how much of this story is true but it's sad to see her tell it.
(Thursday 30 April 2026; 15:10)
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Glitter 25th anniversary (113,675)
by Lambi from USA
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During my pathetic adolescent years of dating my "first love" and the typical break up then make up teenage couples go through, I would routinely cry to:
"I'd given up hope Losing the faith that love Could be mines to treasure"
I was so unbelievably dramatic. LMAO. This is why I'm ride or die for MC. She's really been there for me, it's deep.
(Sunday 19 April 2026; 23:41)
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Glitter 25th anniversary (113,674)
by Tijl from Belgium
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"Lead the Way" is out of this world, or even this universe. When I play it to friends they are gobsmacked. It is by far her most impressive vocal performance. I cherish the recording but attempting a live version in her current state would do more damage than the New Years' 6Eve debacle. Once upon a time she was above anyone in her field. She will always be in my heart but we should all accept that real artistry has its time and place.
(Sunday 19 April 2026; 19:33)
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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,666)
by Lambi from USA
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In a way, I sort of agree, she may have been downplaying its significance. It's about legends, and she is unequivocally one. On one hand, it is objectively unfair, but on the other hand, she's been robbed so many freaking times that she's probably been numb for a while to the lack of impartiality. It's nothing she hasn't experienced before, so she just defaults to the nonchalant, "I don't really care."
(Sunday 19 April 2026; 04:21)
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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,662)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I agree with a lot of your thoughts. Especially with the Rock N Roll crowd. I think their problem is a combination of pure envy and a missunderstanding of who she is. They only see the diva, not the artist. But I don't think that Mariah doesn't care for the award. Yes, she has won everything. But she's also ready for this one. She'll get it. And if not, it's unfair. Mariah's genre is RnB and Pop, but alone for the version of "Bringin' on the heartbreak" on stage she should get that award. Funny side note: I know some heavy metal fans who love Mariah's songs. The real power ballads.
(Saturday 18 April 2026; 20:58)
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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,652)
by Lambi from USA
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Sort of confirmed my initial thoughts. Thank you Lighty for sharing the Vanity Fair article, Mariah's sentiment verbatim:
"I hate answering that question, because the truth is I don't care and that's my answer. But also it would be nice to get into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, because it's a legendary thing. So, you know, that could be cool."
She's genuinely indifferent and completely unbothered. If in, cool. If not, also cool. It's truly not that deep to her.
(Saturday 18 April 2026; 12:50)
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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,650)
by Lambi from USA
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Beautifully put. The Barbie doll argument falls apart easily when you counterpoint it with the fact that Dolly Parton famously played around with the bimbo stereotype: "I'm not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes because I know I'm not dumb and I also know that I'm not blonde." Being a dumb blonde was quite literally her brand, and yet she got inducted.
But it is fundamentally true that it boils down to politics. The Rock N Roll crowd has never embraced Mariah Carey. In fact, they love to rag on her. It almost feels personal. It's sort of like when Mariah did demos for these rock hippie metal types growing up. She asked if they were open to her writing songs, and they were like, "Nah." Mariah knew her songs were stronger, and they probably knew it too.
So is it the same post-making it as well? Is it because she is simply too talented? Is it because she is too girly? Did she really ruin classics like Open Arms and Without You that bad? Or is it something closer to envy: that she possesses exceptional talent, was backed by the biggest record label, and through her marriage to its CEO, secured automatic colossal success? Or is it that the albums those songs appeared on were so extraordinarily successful that it creates a perception, among rock elite purists, that she took credit away from the original writers?
Whatever it is, I do not think it means much to Mariah. She is a pop and R&B girlie. Plus she was already inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame and already won just about every award possible in the industry. She is probably relieved she does not have to dress up for yet another yawn fest.
(Saturday 18 April 2026; 11:24)
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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,650)
by Lambi from USA
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Beautifully put. The Barbie doll argument falls apart easily when you counterpoint it with the fact that Dolly Parton famously played around with the bimbo stereotype: "I'm not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes because I know I'm not dumb and I also know that I'm not blonde." Being a dumb blonde was quite literally her brand, and yet she got inducted.
But it is fundamentally true that it boils down to politics. The Rock N Roll crowd has never embraced Mariah Carey. In fact, they love to rag on her. It almost feels personal. It's sort of like when Mariah did demos for these rock hippie metal types growing up. She asked if they were open to her writing songs, and they were like, "Nah." Mariah knew her songs were stronger, and they probably knew it too.
So is it the same post-making it as well? Is it because she is simply too talented? Is it because she is too girly? Did she really ruin classics like Open Arms and Without You that bad? Or is it something closer to envy: that she possesses exceptional talent, was backed by the biggest record label, and through her marriage to its CEO, secured automatic colossal success? Or is it that the albums those songs appeared on were so extraordinarily successful that it creates a perception, among rock elite purists, that she took credit away from the original writers?
Whatever it is, I do not think it means much to Mariah. She is a pop and R&B girlie. Plus she was already inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame and already won just about every award possible in the industry. She is probably relieved she does not have to dress up for yet another yawn fest.
(Saturday 18 April 2026; 11:24)
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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,641)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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I don't agree with putting Mariah in the same category as Joan Crawford. Crawford was abusive and cruel to family members and hangers on. Mariah's "diva antics" are not abusive/cruel; they are obnoxious at times but are usually framed in a campy, self aware manner.
As far as expecting humility, the entertainment industry is not a place where humility are cultivated or encouraged as a character trait. Just look at some of other nominees. The band Oasis, for example, and its members cannot be described as "humble". They are poster children for excesses of rock and roll, and I am sure that other inducted acts behaved in ways that make Mariah look like a school girl. Mick Jagger has eight children with five different women and used copious amounts of alcohol and drugs during his prime, but he's still in the Hall of Fame and no one's commenting on his behavior.
I personally don't care about Mariah getting into the Hall of Fame, as I think it really should be limited to "rock" acts if it's going to be called the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame. But claiming that Mariah's "diva" behavior somehow disqualifies her is absurd. There are people in the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame who have done far worse. Phil Spector was inducted in 1989, and he was subsequently found guilty of second degree murder.
(Friday 17 April 2026; 16:02)
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Article: Mariah Carey wants $27M for her NYC penthouse triplex (113,601)
by Lambi from USA
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She had been upgrading that penthouse with the foreknowledge of selling it in the future. You want a return after investing in something for that long. She hasn't been living there for a while. She simply has no need for it, therefore it does not really make sense to keep it, especially if it's a consistent cash drainage and not generating revenue. Liquidating this property is a power move.
Mariah is as smart now as she was then, when she intuitively knew not to give away her publishing for $5K. Same way she knew to cancel something as minor as Rocky's naive Amazon dog order because dem kids already had dogs and everything they could realistically need.
I read her as financially savvy that knows how to 10x her wealth. She likely has stocks, bonds, ETFs, cryptocurrencies, commodities, and liquidated investments most of us are never ever going to be in the loop on. With the scale she operates at, she would have been broke a long time ago if she did not understand how to make money work and compound. The fact she surmounted something as astronomical as a $27 million asset is itself the real flex and honestly pretty freaking impressive.
But to keep the spirit of chill, she recently posted photos from a colossal private yacht migrating to yet another colossal private plane. That does not suggest financial strain. If anything, it strongly suggests the complete opposite.
(Monday 13 April 2026; 01:45)
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Article: Mariah Carey wants $27M for her NYC penthouse triplex (113,597)
by TheWind from England
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Lifestyle definitely plays a factor, but wealthy people often take out big loans against homes when they have cash, to free up money without triggering taxes, including capital gains etc, when they sell them on. It's more likely a tax avoidance scheme than a debt management one, but you never know. She does tour way more than you would think she needs to.
(Sunday 12 April 2026; 16:42)
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Article: Mariah Carey wants $27M for her NYC penthouse triplex (113,580)
by Lambi from USA
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She's added a lot of value in that property and it costs a lot to upkeep (tax, maintenance, staff). It would make sense to cash out a high-value asset when she has no incessant need for it anymore. It might've just became a very expensive storage unit. Even though Mariah plays into the "I have no concept of money" persona, the reason she is rich as hell today is because she is smart. Trust me, homegirl will be okay. She owns multiple other properties. This seems to be just a portfolio reshuffle.
I know that Tribeca apartment holds significant meaning for her and the lambs; it's where the butterfly first landed after fleeing Sing Sing, and she's also spoken about how it's always been her dream to live in a penthouse. But dreams also change as you age. Mariah is nearing 60. She simply doesn't enjoy climbing the 1000th floor. She likes to walk the dogs outside in an easy-access mansion yard.
(Friday 10 April 2026; 16:28)
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Article: Mariah Carey wants $27M for her NYC penthouse triplex (113,568)
by Jamie from UK
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This is quite worrying if true. That's Mariah's home and personal space. I'm surprised she's selling unless she needs too.
(Friday 10 April 2026; 01:30)
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A full-throated defense of Glitter (113,550)
by Lambi from USA
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Here are her words verbatim from this interview, I extracted it so you don't have to:
I was so obsessed with my career ever since I can remember. I remember in seventh grade we each had to speak about what we wanted to be. I was a hideous mess then. I had shaved my eyebrows by accident, I had orange hair, I had three shirts that I rotated; it wasn't a pretty sight and it wasn't fun. But when they asked me, "What do you want to be?" I said, "I want to be a singer and an actress."
We actually can just confirm it based on her actions. She did in fact pursue both singing and acting.
(Sunday 5 April 2026; 15:03)
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A full-throated defense of Glitter (113,547)
by TJ from Norway
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I can't remember Mariah saying that she always wanted to act when she was growing up. I do remember reading interviews where she said that she didn't want to be an actress, and that singers/musicians should stick to what they knew, which was music. If this was after the release of Bodyguard or Evita, I can't recall.
(Sunday 5 April 2026; 07:16)
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A full-throated defense of Glitter (113,544)
by Lambi from USA
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My acting coach said that for acting to be believable, the actor needs to have experienced the emotions, or at least been in close proximity to what they're trying to portray with their facial expressions. This is why Heath Ledger purposely isolated himself in a hotel room to develop the mindset of the Joker. He fully immersed himself in the psyche of his character. It's called method acting.
I'd say Mariah did well in scenes that have everything to do with being a singer-songwriter. Finding out her song was on the radio for the first time. Getting more excited as the melody she's writing improves. These are all emotions she had already felt, and they came out naturally in the movie.
But it was also sometimes inconsistent. For instance, she did really well lip syncing Don't Funk at that club when she was put on the spot by Dice, then did pretty poorly miming All My Life when she took over Sylk in the studio.
The more family-oriented emotions, like seeing her movie mom on drugs and wandering the streets, probably came from similar feelings to dealing with Alison. Then there are the Tommy-related emotions required for Dice's tantrums and jealousy. When he called Da Brat fat ass, she might have drawn from emotions tied to when Tommy degraded Diddy. Her acting was very strong in that scene in my opinion. Then being physically threatened by Terrence Howard because Dice didn't pay 100k. Those reference emotions could connect to what she felt when Tommy put a knife to her cheek.
I wouldn't say she was objectively bad, but a bit unseasoned. I don't think she was quite ready for a lead role just yet. I also felt like it needed better cinematography. I'd even argue better songs. Mariah has written such vivid songs. She quite literally paints a picture with her lyrics. This would have been the perfect opportunity to write another Underneath the Stars or Fourth of July, but instead we got the haunting, suicide-themed Twister, which felt awkwardly shoehorned into her mother's disappearance. It felt like, "whatever, we have to make use of the soundtrack, let's just put this here". Overall, the movie direction fell far short of her songwriting's standard.
Mariah's always said all she wanted to be was a singer and an actress growing up. Actress being there is a pretty big deal. I'd say with the right material and once all the inhibitions are gone, she could be great. She's proven this with Precious. I'm not shutting down MC just yet in her acting pursuit. She's got a larger emotions palette just from what she went through the last 15 years, meaning there are plenty of inspirations to take from.
(Sunday 5 April 2026; 00:40)
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A full-throated defense of Glitter (113,537)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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I found it so gratifying to see "Loverboy" rocket up the charts from #60 to #2 after the fans turned out to buy the single and support our girl.
Mariah and her team made a lot of mistakes with Glitter. I think "Wisegirls" should have been Mariah's first major film role rather than "Glitter". She was quite good in "Wisegirls" and definitely held her own with Mira Sorvino and Melora Walters. You could tell she was much more relaxed on that set than for "Glitter".
"Glitter" turned out the way it did due to a number of factors. Number one, they veered away from Kate Lanier's script and relied a lot on improvisation during the filming. Number two, they should have picked a more seasoned director than Vondie Curtis-Hall - he had only directed one film before "Glitter" (Gridlock'd) and I think his style was not a match for what Mariah needed. A better choice would have been Brian Gibson, who did the Tina Turner biopic based on a script by Kate Lanier. Number three, Max Beesley was the wrong lead male actor to play Dice. He's a nice guy, but they should have picked someone with a higher profile. I don't think Terrence Howard was the right person either, but they needed a bigger name. Number four, the sabotage of the "Loverboy" single probably meant that they had to cut out footage featuring the "Firecracker" version in post-production because the song was her character's first big hit in the movie. The movie was delayed from early 2001 to Summer 2001 because of it, and that was before Mariah's personal struggles in July/August. They had to redo movie trailers and re-work the soundtrack album because of it.
Whitney had it much easier with "The Bodyguard" than Mariah did with "Glitter". Whitney only wrote one song on that soundtrack, only recorded six of the 13 songs included, and had Kevin Costner as a director and co-lead right around the time of "Dances with Wolves". The film had already been in development since the 70s, while "Glitter" was something that Mariah worked closely on with Kate Lanier and others throughout the development process. Whitney did not have to work for "The Bodyguard" the way that Mariah did for "Glitter".
Whitney was a decent actress, but I disagree that her acting in "The Bodyguard" is that much better than Mariah's in "Glitter". "Waiting to Exhale" was definitely a better showcase of Whitney's acting talents.
(Friday 3 April 2026; 20:35)
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Diva persona / the voice (113,443)
by Lambi from USA
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Beauty brings you closer to your calling so I don't mind it either. When you read her book you can see Mariah's love for being a showgirl was supported early on by her guncles. The few times she felt beautiful as a little girl (like when her matted hair was untangled for the first time) were very incredibly significant and cathartic for her. She even wanted that photo to be the cover of the memoir. An eventual superstar feeling somewhat put together, for the very first time, would've meant the absolute world, which explains why she vividly remembers that moment. She would also routinely make her friends switch clothes with her just so she had a chance at a newer outfit, like it was almost a necessity. Ensembles are a big part of being a diva, she has always been innately one. It wasn't something she randomly became later on.
And for momentous occasions like prom, she unashamedly threw a keg party so she could fundraise for the whole shebang. She racked up $1k plus that afforded a limo and a personally tailored dress. Even while being unbearably poor, Mariah somehow managed to go on full throttle because prom is a moment, darling. She will find a way, she will be festive and she will be that girl. She has seriously always been inherently fabulous. The celebrity in her came out even with no fame or fortune.
Considering her royalty money keeps growing over time, she is inevitably going to live larger and larger. And she loves responding back to haters via flexing her wealth. Remember when she finally made it big, she pulled up to the house of one of her bullies (one who chanted the N word) in a sports car while blasting Vision of Love as a clap back. You truly get a sense of who Mariah is. Her way of dealing with people who've maniacally did her dirty was to go bigger, grander, and harder than them: "You a mom and pop, I'm a corporation", "I don't know her either", "Which is difficult to get, not everyone has that", "Are you selling M&Ms?" LMAO.
Another tidbit is that she hovered over the idea of burning her original wedding dress in the WBT music video which would've felt like a very pointed F you to Tommy who wanted her permanently cemented in the 90s. Though the colossal success of TEOM did just that, there was really no need to be burning a $25k Vera Wang 27 foot train.
For a while though, I thought she held such a deep sense of security after marrying Nick and having kids with him. Marriage can do that. You simply won. The more important things come into focus (like dem babies) and the outside noise don't matter as much. But life really did take such a sad nasty turn for her. I honestly would have never, in a million years, expected Nick to turn out the way he has today.
I can understand why she keeps getting her breasts enlarged or piling on layers and layers of makeup. When someone you married and the only person you chose to have children with, goes on to publicly father children with several other women, whom are stunningly beautiful by the way. You will be psychologically impacted.
This must've ensued a deep insecurity most of us will never ever understand. It's not a normal thing to go through and to this very day, none of it is okay. The way you handle beautification won't be quite the same. It'll catapult you to be more and more excessive. She was already insecure after the series of failed relationships with men. Unfortunately, this was even more amplified to the freaking extremes, to a height I never thought possible, by Nick's severe psychological disorder.
I kind of just accepted that Mariah may perpetually have this unrelenting desire to always be at her most beautiful. She will maximize her good looks while she miraculously still has it. Voluminous hair, cinched waist, flawless make-up. She will be grand and she will make a statement. There is almost an incessant need to remind people that she is that girl, and as a fan who's forensically examined her life, I understand why. My only hope for her is to not end up being that bitter single mom. She's worked so incredibly hard for this life and she truly deserves the world.
At this point, I am really just happy she's still alive and going. Consistently working on something and enjoying a family life. I know people say to just bow out gracefully. But the God in Mariah (the creative force) is still there. Not as prolific some would say, but she is still creating. And she released a song/some sorta single/a remix, every single year from 1990 to 2015, so I think she deserves a pass. There are some amazing projects on the horizon this year; as her word, it'll be "major".
By the way, thank you to everyone who's reached out with congratulations. For reading if you've reached this far. And I apologize for the lack of response. This year has been incredibly transformative for me, both personally and creatively. I hope everyone is doing well.
(Saturday 21 March 2026; 03:21)
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Diva persona / the voice (113,394)
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I don't mind the diva persona or attitude. I can see how some might not like it but it's never bothered me, what bothers me is the voice. I do admit I miss the Mariah who wasn't on meds and the Mariah who could belt strong and keep Beyonce in her place lol. I realize Mariah is 56 and past her prime and has nothing to prove. I just want her to sound decent on future albums. The nodules has gotten worse with age but I will no longer mention getting them removed because it's more easy for me to say. It's not my voice and being put under the knife would have me a little scared. I think rest and discipline is the only thing we can ask for at this point. I do want another album asap as I've been having Caution and Here For It All on a loop.
(Saturday 14 March 2026; 10:31)
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Healing words (113,370)
by Lambi from USA
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In Mariah's own words, "She said a couple things to me that was very healing for what I needed," in reference to her mom's last words to her. We will never know what Pat uttered to MC, as those are sacred words reserved only for her. But with the amount of love she has shown for her mother, "I want to honor her for giving me the gift of music." We can assume it's a reinvigoration Mariah's never felt before.
They say a part of you dies the moment your mother passes. And from personal friends' accounts (I haven't experienced it), it's ringing to be true. They also say that the reverse of it is a need to carry what your mother gave you forward. In Mimi's case, that gift was music.
This is a huge contrast from what she once wrote: "My career was everything to me, and because of my mother, my brother, and Tommy Mottola, it was nearly taken away. Honestly, it felt like they almost killed me." (An excerpt from her memoir.)
I believe Mariah went right back to being Patricia's light. "You've always been the light of my life." Her last words seemingly lit a fire inside our girl. To witness Mariah's drive during HFIA's rollout was amazing to watch. That is what reconciliation does to a wounded child. She must've been made to feel like the biggest star.
It was truly incredible to see an almost 60-year-old reinvigorated about her career and promote a record like she is a debuting artist. Mariah is obviously diseased by the immense trauma that comes with Hollywood, but she is not letting that stop her from honoring what her mother breathed through her as a child: music. She is so obviously proud to be part of Pat's legacy and is doing the absolute most to keep her mama proud. I could cry about it. Mariah's calling prevailed, and the gift of music her mother nurtured in her spirit continues to pour out into the world. Forget what Pat did wrong and forget the numbers. Ultimately the gift of God won and we are all so unbelievably blessed by it. I am honestly just so thankful at this point and what ever comes next for MC, I will be here for it all.
(Sunday 8 March 2026; 09:47)
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Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,298)
by Lambi from USA
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Hey John. There's no restriction on me being here or having an online presence. I just can't discuss, allude to, or hint at any active projects because I'm under NDA, and I'm very careful about that. I can post about anything that's already out and not new information. I come here when I get a break and read, but my frequent posting days are over.
By the way, I love your post about Mariah's voice being that rare flower. I haven't really heard anyone describe her instrument that way before. I also believe that's part of why she's so unbelievably prolific. The good vocal days are limited, so she has to get things done and take advantage when the voice is there.
"You'll see Whitney and Celine vocal impersonators left and right, some quite convincing in their mimicry, but there is no one that can fully embody Mariah's unique tone." I've always felt this way. No one can match that top quality belting tone in My All, Whenever You Call, and Heartbreaker. She is truly a freak of nature.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 01:51)
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Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,292)
by John from USA
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MC's team has no restrictions with you posting on this board again?
(Friday 20 February 2026; 15:26)
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Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,291)
by Lambi from USA
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Geronimo, I really appreciate that you are passionate about deeper topics but you are fundamentally wrong about Mariah on this one. Those in the files are blackmailed and have been heavily protected by the media.
The complete opposite of how they treat Mariah. She took a rather catastrophic slave beating from the media apparatus when she ran away from the plantation. She was persona non grata the moment she stepped out of Sony. That does not reflect someone who is protected or part of an inner elite circle.
Furthermore, when she was 12, she was left alone with older man who was obviously plotting and made her whole entire body freeze the moment he leaned in for a kiss, should signal to you, she's never ever going to put herself in that situation or be in the vicinity of that demonic culture.
I understand your insinuation as these celebrities are slowly being exposed for who they are but to put Mariah in the same category is completely unfair and makes me question: Have you not watched a single interview? Have you not read a chapter in her memoir? After listening to I Wish You Well or My Saving Grace, do you seriously not sense that she is a force for good?
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Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,287)
by Geronimo from USA
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MC attests to her own morally perverted childhood, herself. Her book tells the tale. Read it if you're the reading type. She told you she likes them dangerous. Believe her. "Like" is the operative word. That indicates choice.
Speaking of judgment, she didn't just cross paths with the people I mentioned. Those were her chosen associates - two of whom were her chosen lovers with plenty of "time to reflect" between choices. Her childhood exposures reflect her notable adult choices - pure and simple.
There are plenty examples of people with similar and worse backgrounds than MC's who made morally divergent choices when choice was theirs to make compared to the choices that were forced upon them as children.
Thou dost protest too much.
(Friday 20 February 2026; 03:10)
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Great news (112,924)
by Lambi from USA
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Last October, I stopped by Gamma Headquarters in LA in search of work and was fortunate enough to make a somewhat direct link towards Mariah's team. Long story short, I've recently been brought on in a new capacity. Of course, for contractual reasons, I'm not able to share in-depth behind the scenes. What I can say is that I'll now be part of a new, real-life Mariah community, which likely means stepping away from this board, not for good but at least for a very long while.
It's truly been a wonderful experience here. Dove, Giovanni, Mimi L, MusicFanJ, Terna, Lainsky, Randy, Joachim, Lara, Rashidi, and TJ, I've loved reading your stories, ideas, and reviews. I'm hopeful I'll continue to work my way closer to MC, and I'll absolutely try to relay your ideas and perspectives.
Thank you to MCArchives for all the festivity and warmth during my short time here. God bless, and I'm so grateful to have shared my love for Mariah with all of you. I wish you all nothing but the very best, darlings.
(Monday 5 January 2026; 05:41)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,921)
by Lambi from USA
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It's deep-rooted for MC. Aretha clearly favored her, but it was Celine who truly showed out, and that probably felt like a hard slap in the face. And J-Lo is just fundamentally annoying. The comparisons to Beyoncé were probably so insulting too. She simply does not belong in the same lane as any of these extraordinarily talented women. It honestly felt like she was a prank the industry tried to pull on everyone. A terrible singer, a mediocre dancer, and an equally mediocre actress. Just look at her acting on her Kamala speech, definitively nobody bought those crocodile tears.
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,913)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Haha call me a hater but JLo deserves the shade. She's incredibly fake, has no moral compass when it came to using other artists' material to get fame (so many of her songs have vocals from other singers she passed off as her own, she also stole from Usher) and basically is full of herself. Is she the only one at fault? No because Tommy facilitated it and JLo took what she could to advance in her career. But yes Céline is an angel and super sweet so I definitely disagree with Mariah's treatment of her. I don't think she should have made statements about Celine's Divas performance.
(Sunday 4 January 2026; 23:52)
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Last fully live television performance (112,918)
by Lambi from USA
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Sadly the whistles were lipped in HATEU. But what comes to mind are Jimmy Fallon AIWFCIY 2013 and Play This Song 2025. True fully live rarities.
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Last fully live television performance (112,909)
by Bobby A from United States
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Was this performance of H.A.T.E.U. on the David Letterman Show MC's last fully live television performance? I think it is. Maybe somebody can prove me wrong.
(Sunday 4 January 2026; 18:31)
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Webmaster (112,916)
by Lambi from USA
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Obvious typo. *shouldn't be.
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Webmaster (112,912)
by Lambi from USA
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Kindly post my rebuttal and start being more impartial. Silencing someone who's only defending themselves should be allowed.
(Sunday 4 January 2026; 20:52)
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Webmaster (112,912)
by Lambi from USA
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Kindly post my rebuttal and start being more impartial. Silencing someone who's only defending themselves should be allowed.
(Sunday 4 January 2026; 20:52)
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