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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Change your type (109,235) by Bill from the UK What I don't get about the song is that she's seemingly bashing all her ex husbands and boyfriends and relenting about how awful they were, to then go on and say she's looking for somebody who's exactly that type? So she's just accepted a life a doomed romances from this point on then? Maybe go for a different type of guy if the last 20 haven't worked out. But who am I. (Thursday 12 June 2025; 08:22)

Type immature (109,184) by Bill from the UK I don't know if it's true or not, but I've heard the brand name dropping is actually sponsored. Not just on this song, but others she has recorded too. And not just Mariah, apparently several artists engage in this. I can see it being true, or else she's just bragging about her financial status. Either way, I wouldn't categorise it as a "strong pen game" song like I would Outside, Butterfly, Languishing, Petals, Close My Eyes etc. (Sunday 8 June 2025; 19:31) this is a reply to message 109,176

Type immature (109,176) by Lee from UK I actually really like the melody of Type Dangerous but the lyrics feel tired. Why is Mariah name dropping designer labels in her songs at this point in her career. To me, this is immature and lazy song writing. I hope the rest of MC16 gives us lyrics with more substance.There is no way Mariah can perform this song live, we all know she struggles with breath control and these lyrics are delivered too quickly for Mariah to perform live. The only way she'll manage it is if she has backing singers deliver every other line as in Make it Happen. (Sunday 8 June 2025; 10:23)

Tommy Motola (109,146) by Bill from the UK He's got a point to be fair. It's been almost 30 years since they separated. She's gotta shake it off. (Saturday 7 June 2025; 12:23) this is a reply to message 109,143

Tommy Motola (109,143) by Jamie from UK So yesterday I noticed Tommy was posting quite a bit on insta, I didn't think too much about it until this morning I've noticed on his story, he's put a post that says "You gotta know when to S.T.O.P." Not sure if this is a dig at Mariah or means something else? (Saturday 7 June 2025; 08:40)

Bill (109,037) by Bill from the UK (Thursday 5 June 2025; 07:01) this is a reply to message 109,003

Bill (109,003) by Edward from USA Some people seriously need to get off their high horse. Bill is an appreciated member of this board. When he stepped away for a while, a lot of us genuinely missed him. A bunch of us have been here for over a decade. We've supported Mariah through her ups and downs, bought the music, defended her when it counted, and yes, we've also kept it real when needed. We've seen plenty of people come and go, showing up with loud opinions and disappearing just as fast. Some may not like what Bill said, but no one here gets to question his or anyone else's place fandom. If for some of you the idea of being a fan means clapping for everything and pretending everything's perfect all the time, that's not what this board is about. And if hearing a different opinion is too much for you, you might want to grab a helmet, it's 2025. I've said it before: one of the reasons this board has lasted over 20 years is because it's always allowed for different opinions. Not just blind praise, but real talk too. That's what keeps it interesting. Every time this place turns into an echo chamber, it just dies out. And yeah, sometimes we get frustrated and show a little tough love. But that's only because we know what Mariah is capable of. That doesn't mean we don't love her or support her any less. I actually appreciate reading different opinions, even ones I don't agree with. That back and forth is what makes this board work. It's not a fan club where everyone's forced to say the same thing. Bill, you've been part of this board for years, and most of us really value what you bring. Don't even think about disappearing. (Tuesday 3 June 2025; 19:46)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,925) by Bill from the UK Correct, I am sad and unhappy that Mariah Carey is now nothing but a shadow of her former glorious and wonderfully captivating self. You and your kind can continue ignoring it. Perhaps I'll go back into hibernation again and pretend this isn't happening. Mariah I pray you get the help you need, God bless you always. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 14:48) this is a reply to message 108,916

Nasty, nasty comment (108,916) by David from USA "2. Alcohol is known as one of the absolute worst things for a singing voice. Mariah's voice being damaged beyond repair (to the point that a number of us unprofessionals on this board can probably sing Hero better than she can and with no lipping) suggests she has indulged too much in this vice." Another fan disparaging and mocking Mariah with one of the most offensive comments I've seen yet (the part in parentheses). I feel sorry for you, buddy - you and all the lambs on here who wile away your hours hurting the woman who profess to love must have very sad, very unhappy to have to act out in this way. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 05:16)

Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,908) by Bill from the UK An objective look at Mariah's behaviour leads me to think that yes, alcoholism has been massively responsible for the person we see before us today. Let's unpack it all: 1. From Butterfly references to alcohol and drinking became more prominent in her lyrics. 2. Alcohol is known as one of the absolute worst things for a singing voice. Mariah's voice being damaged beyond repair (to the point that a number of us unprofessionals on this board can probably sing Hero better than she can and with no lipping) suggests she has indulged too much in this vice. 3. Alcoholism can be inherited and she has stated that her mother suffered from this disease. 4. She has been taking medication for her bipolar since Glitter. Also since then, we have seen her on many, many occasions drinking flamboyantly and recreationally, which you should not do when taking medication. This may cause her somewhat disassociated persona of recent years. 5. She cannot walk on stage without assistance. 6. Her speech can be slurred, rambling, and nonsensical at times. 7. It was most evident during the Nightmare era. I don't think there's a picture available from that time of her not holding a glass of champagne. As I've said previously I do wish she would come clean about what she is battling. Be it alcoholism, drug dependency, a debilitating disease etc. She is clearly not right. I hate that the Yass Queens just brush it all aside. I've loved Mariah since the moment I saw her. I sometimes think I'm the only person that cares about her in this way. I don't care about number ones, sales, her being the "queen of shade", or her damn lighting. All I care about is her and her being healthy, and happy. And she is not. (Friday 30 May 2025; 18:56) this is a reply to message 108,903

Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,903) by Jamie from UK Do you think alcoholism is one of Mariah's issues? I know she likes a drink but never looked at it this way before. It would make sense that this is her vice and what's damaged her vocals. When I think of younger Mariah, she was so much more happier, even though she says she wasn't. You can see it on her face and hear it in both her speaking and singing voice. I just listened to Daydream from Tokyo Dome, I love when she says "thank you guys" to the fabulous four and saying "they are having church up in here" at the end of Hero. She sounds so humble and sweet, and just generally happier, a complete contrast to her personality now. I think Mariah wanted to change herself because she didn't want to be this sweet and grounded person she wanted to be more edgy, which I get, hey we would all like to be different at times but I honestly believe that's who she really is deep down and wanting to change has only led to more problems for her down the line. It's like Tommy said no one was forcing her to write those songs or be the person she was. I believe when you loose sight of who you really are and portray a different image it can only do harm to yourself. Mariah can live her life however she chooses it's not down to anyone else, that is just my gut feeling about her. (Friday 30 May 2025; 15:38)

Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,899) by Bill from the UK I'm surprised more people don't notice the difference from Merry Christmas to Daydream vocally. Most sight Butterfly as when he voice began to decline and change, but for me Daydream was the beginning of the end. It was just masked by good songs, good production, and confidence on the stage when performing. Main call-outs for you all to review is that her melisma became disjointed, most noticeable on songs like I Am Free. She breaks it up rather than just singing straight through the melody like she did on all her albums beforehand. Then all the body from her voice went too, best displayed by When I Saw You and Long Ago. She still sounds great but there was a very noticeable shift at this point. As this was before her alcoholism then the nose job would be the most likely cause for the change. (Friday 30 May 2025; 08:28) this is a reply to message 108,894

Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,894) by Jamie from UK Yes I remember reading somewhere years ago that Tommy bought her first boob job for her. How true that is I'm not sure. Sometimes I feel Mariah chose to sing differently from Daydream and that also affected the quality of her voice. But I defo agree the nose surgery didn't help. (Thursday 29 May 2025; 21:21)

Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,893) by Bill from the UK Mariah came to terms with her (non-existent) bad side years ago and has said as such in her interview. It is pretty clear and obvious she has had a small nose job, and a large breast job, since 1990. The nose job is incredibly subtle but clearly impacted her voice and happened during 1995. It is obvious as it was the first major change in her voice, that became more nasally and brassy on Daydream, and lost its body. That I chalk up to the nose job. The most noticeable breast augmentation was in 1999 when Rainbow launched, but there was talk of a smaller one in 1994, but not so sure about that. (Thursday 29 May 2025; 14:20) this is a reply to message 108,891

Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,891) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End I love this theory so much and always have. Usually I'll scroll whatever site I am on and keep laughing. Today I have time: Mariah's left side is like the other side of the moon, only God and satellites have ever really had a full clear view. But we're supposed to believe she's gone under anesthesia several times and just left her "bad side" alone? Maybe the locals will humor you but a lamb will laugh behind your back. (Thursday 29 May 2025; 12:55)

She possibly had a stroke (108,823) by Bill from the UK I agree, so incredibly sad to see her like this. I wish she would tell us what was wrong. I was on edge the entire time as I genuinely thought at one point she was going to collapse. It's heart breaking. What on earth happened to her? (Thursday 22 May 2025; 23:05) this is a reply to message 108,815

She possibly had a stroke (108,815) by Jamie from UK Something isn't right. She was slurring her words, and couldn't keep up. It quite upset me to see her like this. (Thursday 22 May 2025; 10:23)

Biopic (108,756) by Bill from the UK Those that know me also know lists bring me joy. For completeness, here is the current most up to date download of reasons why Mariah can't or doesn't sing anymore. Let me know if any need adding I've forgotten. 1. Ear monitor malfunction 2. No humidifiers 3. Too cold 4. Too hot 5. Stage fright 6. Corset too tight 7. Heels too high 8. Preserving her voice 9. Scared of Michael Jackson's casket 10. Didn't want to upstage the Queen of Soul 11. Wanted to respect her peers 12. Bronchitis 13. Stressful divorce/break up 14. Arm in a sling 15. Pregnant 16. Not pregnant 17. Nodules 18. Too many splashes 19. Medicated 20. Backing singers missed their cue 21. Backing singers singing her part now baby 22. Foiled by Dick Clarke Productions 23. Late for the sound check 24. Not enough sleep 25. Too much sleep 26. Bipolar 27. Food poisoning 28. Mic wasn't turned up 29. Shit happens 30. Avoiding wrinkles (Sunday 18 May 2025; 11:15) this is a reply to message 108,749

Biopic (108,749) by Bill from the UK Avoiding wrinkles. That’s a new one for the list. (Saturday 17 May 2025; 20:54)

Biopic (108,749) by Bill from the UK Avoiding wrinkles. That’s a new one for the list. (Saturday 17 May 2025; 20:54) this is a reply to message 108,746

Biopic (108,746) by Lambi from USA Mariah's probably been heavily involved in her biopic. She's posted pictures with Lee Daniels. It's coming out some time soon. With her barely trying to be convincing when she lip syncs - it's quite obvious. She just doesn't want wrinkles to develop faster. At 56, aging has caught up with her. She's doing everything in her power to slow it down. Mariah is all about how she looks. I mean she quite literally didn't care if she was being given a tribute by Moni and Tori, it was bad lighting when Mariah was in the frame. And she will not hesitate to show her dismay. All lambs should accept that this is just who Mariah is. This is just how a beauty queen ages. She's touring and showing up and takes the time to pre-record. Nobody can say she didn't maximize her time. Musicians usually retire from performing by their 60's. We are four years away from that. So just enjoy what ever she can scramble to offer at this point. She literally devoted her whole entire life to music. (Saturday 17 May 2025; 05:24)

Deeply concerned (108,732) by Bill from the UK For me, it's pretty obvious that Mariah has some debilitating health condition, and I'm surprised not more people think that or can see it like I can. The evidence is all around us. The truth will come out one day, and probably very soon. (Thursday 15 May 2025; 01:36) this is a reply to message 108,725

Deeply concerned (108,725) by Edward from USA Whoever is pushing her to keep tarnishing her impressive legacy like this needs to be fired. There's clearly something off with her, and I just hope she doesn't end up like Michael and Whitney. Beyonce can lip, but at least she dances her ass off and sings her ballads live. Celine was full of energy with a huge production behind her, but Mariah didn't need all that, her voice alone carried the show. Now she just stands there and lips unconvincingly. You would think by now she would at least put on more energetic performances, invest in better production, have more moving parts on stage, or get a new choreographer. It's time to hit the gym without high heels and hit that stage like the star she is. Sadly, her performances are copy-paste jobs. You can see it in the comments on those clips, even the yass queens are starting to notice. (Wednesday 14 May 2025; 16:13)

Born this Mimi (108,711) by Bill from the UK Exactly, and she's hardly "elusive" given she's inescapable and unavoidable from Thanksgiving through to the New Year. (Monday 12 May 2025; 17:54) this is a reply to message 108,709

Born this Mimi (108,709) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter She actually did haha, in the promo for MIAM she says something about how she's had many nick names along the way and "lately they've been calling me The Elusive Chanteuse". Which was wild haha because by that point I was obsessed with her and had never heard anyone call her that. I can buy her actually having the name Mimi but TEC was a definitely made up. Also y'all let's stop fighting over her nick name and go back to fighting over her year of birth. Haha kidding. (Monday 12 May 2025; 16:44)

Born this Mimi (108,704) by Bill from the UK No one had ever called her The Elusive Chanteuse either. (Sunday 11 May 2025; 19:08) this is a reply to message 108,694

Born this Mimi (108,694) by Edward from USA That doesn't mean anything really. You've never heard anybody call her that, ever, not then, not now. I love the title though, I just don't believe her close friends ever called her that. As fans we complied though, and it was something different. (Friday 9 May 2025; 19:16)

Friday feeling (108,594) by Bill from the UK Bless you Bobby, I still check in from time to time. Truth is I'm just not a fan of modern day Mariah. Don't get me wrong, I will always love her more than any of you all ever will lol, but I prefer Mariah lamenting about loving someone till the end of time or being alone in love, rather than telling me to GTFO and bragging about riding a D with Ariana Grande. Anyway, to answer your question, my favourite album is of course the untouchable debut. There is something so magical about those Carey-Margulies compositions, and her voice never sounded as good. That deep, rich tone full of volume and timbre. Oh how I miss it. As for my favourite song, aside from All I Want for Christmas Is You and Vision of Love which I consider separate entities, it would be the regular album version of Fantasy. It came out during the peak of my fandom and hearing it the first time on the radio, I still wistfully think back to that day now and again. I also enjoy long walks on the beach and quiet nights in. Hope you've been well. (Sunday 20 April 2025; 17:03) this is a reply to message 108,592

Friday feeling (108,592) by Bobby A from United States I am glad that I am not the only Lamb who gets all emotional when listening to 90s MC. I wish I knew Bill's favorite 90s MC song and album. I miss him on the board. It is like MC gave me my anthem with IBTAY. Lol. Just kidding. (Sunday 20 April 2025; 02:55)

MiMi20 CD (108,569) by Bill from the UK Playing vinyl on a cheap turntable with a cheap stylus actually damages the vinyl over time, so playing it on a cheap player from the 1950s, or any cheap player for that matter, is not a good idea. It is a medium that only deteriorates with age unless it is treated with utmost care, and that requires a decent turntable and stylus. While many find the analogue audio experience rich and warm, a compact disc played through a decent hifi set up (with a Digital to Audio (DAC) converter) will sound absolutely fantastic, and a Super Audio CD played on a player designed for that medium is unbeatable. Couple that with a decent pair of speakers and you'll never look back. CDs are far from a dead medium, as all manufacturers continue to make players to this day. CDs provide the best quality audio available without any depreciation in quality and without clicks, pops and scratches that will invade an uncared for vinyl record over time. As for streaming, unless it is a CD-quality streamer (Tidal, Qobuz) I wouldn't bother, as so much of the music is compressed and sacrificed on streamers like Spotify (the McDonalds of music streamers). Plus as you point out, with the exception of Qobuz, you cannot own and keep the digital music files and they run the risk of being removed or, possibly worse, amped up and compressed to compete with the "loudness wars". TLDR: CDs are good. (Sunday 13 April 2025; 20:16) this is a reply to message 108,561

MiMi20 CD (108,561) by Matty from Vancouver Canada CD? I'm so annoyed when it's a CD only release. Streaming and vinyls are the most important. CD players and cassette players never work in 2025. Vinyl is the only reliable way to secure the music you've purchased and will work on a cheap vinyl player from 1950 or an expensive one from 2025. The sound quality is so superior, and there's nothing like hearing Mariah's voice on a vinyl. Stream is second to vinyl because streaming services often remove music I've paid for. It's infuriating, because I already paid for it, and it simply disappears from my devices. (Saturday 12 April 2025; 17:36)

Remastering Daydream (107,890) by Bill from the UK What you're hearing is an example of the loudness wars: essentially mastering engineers compress recordings to make them sound louder to compete with other poorly mastered (loud) records. This trend became mainstream thanks to Oasis and how their records sounded so much louder on the radio, and due to their popularity, everyone else started doing it. Daydream is an excellently recorded and mastered album, boasting a dynamic range of 13 which is one of the highest in her catalogue. It'd be a shame to lose all those beautifully subdued and quiet moments of the record against the crescendos and climaxes. But that's the way things seem to be going. Personally the CD sounds superb and doesn't need updating in my view. But who am I? (Sunday 29 December 2024; 00:24) this is a reply to message 107,889

Remastering Daydream (107,889) by Terna from Nigeria I played this record the other day on Spotify and couldn't help notice that it wasn't digitally re-mastered and thus has a significantly lower volume level (you actually have to have Spotify's volume normalization feature on loud to get it to a significant boost in sound level - most recordings from the mid 90's backwards actually) for today's standards than say "Butterfly" or even "Rainbow" which she did earlier on this year. I'm hoping that for its 30th anniversary, she finally does this next year, giving it a long needed update in sound while also reintroducing the album - I dare say is top 3 in her overall best albums, there's no denying this. 1. Butterfly 2. Daydream 3. Mariah Carey 4. The Emancipation of Mimi 5. Music Box (Saturday 28 December 2024; 20:38)

Merry Christmas SACD (107,887) by Bill from the UK Thank you gents, yes all is well with me thanks. Wishing you all the best for the year ahead. If there's no new music from Mariah in 2025, here's hoping Daydream gets an anniversary release with my beautiful London tour date added as a bonus audio CD. I would probably die of happiness. It's still one of the best days of my life, always will be. (Saturday 28 December 2024; 12:40) this is a reply to message 107,884

Merry Christmas SACD (107,884) by Jamie from UK Merry Christmas Bill. Great to see your post. I hope all is well with you. (Friday 27 December 2024; 23:57)

Merry Christmas SACD (107,881) by Bill from the UK Hello all, a flying visit to say a belated Merry Christmas and an advanced Happy New Year to you all. The new super audio CD of Merry Christmas by Mobile Fidelity sounds fantastic. If you have a decent hifi set up and a good pair of headphones, it's worth investing in, as personally I think it is the best the album has ever sounded. There's so many nuances to unearth, I find with each listen I'm discovering more about an album I thought I knew inside out. I only wish the debut, Emotions, Music Box and Daydream would get the same treatment one day. Love to you all. (Friday 27 December 2024; 22:55)

Las Vegas (106,172) by Bill from the UK I'll always love Mariah, but a grand total of 2 minutes of actual live vocals from a 2 hour show is appalling. Mariah fans love to mock J. Lo, but Mariah herself is no better. I think I'm finally done with her now. There's nothing more to say. Good luck y'all. (Monday 15 April 2024; 09:03) this is a reply to message 106,171

Las Vegas (106,171) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain This is all she sang live on the first night. The new renditions sound really good though. (Monday 15 April 2024; 01:02)

Emojis (105,999) by Bill from the UK Some unreliable rumour account on X posted an emoji of a butterfly along with a bunch of others, and apparently this now means Mariah is working with Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Beyoncé and others on a charity single similar to "Just Stand Up". In other words, all you've missed out on is post after post of unsupported speculation following someone on the Internet posting a butterfly emoji. (Sunday 17 March 2024; 07:44) this is a reply to message 105,993

Emojis (105,993) by Zachariah from Croatia Can someone explain to me - emojis? She posted something? I don't get it. (Friday 15 March 2024; 22:02)

Missing projects list (105,978) by Bill from the UK Y'all that have been around know I love a list. So, let's gather up all her undelivered projects. Let me know if I've missed anything. 1. Angels Advocate 2. Someone's Ugly Daughter 3. The Butterfly Lounge 4. The Clark Sisters album/collaboration 5. The Rarities 2 Please Mariah, release something. We're withering away over here. (Thursday 14 March 2024; 19:23)

New layout (105,918) by Bill from the UK Is the discography not viewable on phones? If you've retired it, would you consider leaving it up as an archive somewhere? It was a gargantuan effort and somewhere I often visited, it'd be a shame if it went. (Friday 8 March 2024; 22:14) this is a reply to message 105,914

New layout (105,914) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands The old website had two versions: one for computers and one for mobile phones. The new website only has one version. Did you try going to the url www.mcarchives.com on your phone? (Friday 8 March 2024; 20:34)

Article: 15 Best female singers of all time (105,905) by Bill from the UK This reads like it was written by an AI bot. (Friday 8 March 2024; 18:36)

Photoshoot (105,904) by Bill from the UK Maybe TEOM will be treated to some sort of anniversary package next year like Music Box? (Friday 8 March 2024; 17:53) this is a reply to message 105,897

Photoshoot (105,897) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Markus Klinko, the photographer behind Mariah's iconic TEOM shoot, has been hired by her again to do a new shoot for her Vegas residency. Apparently the photos will be inspired by TEOM photos. Now this has got me thinking, why is that the case? She's been recycling old TEOM photos for it and it's just. Month away why is she now doing a new shoot? Could she be using it for MC16? Fun fact for those who don't know, Mariah called Markus in the middle of the night insisting on him doing the shoot and asking for an exact pose he saw from his work, here's the inspiration photo. He didn't want to recreate the same pose so they landed on something similar. (Friday 8 March 2024; 01:21)

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