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About TJ from Norway:
I've been a fan since she released Vision of Love in 1990.
Insta: tony2909
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The greatest female artist of all time snub (114,112)
by TJ from Norway
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When they started claiming that, she wasn't the greatest female artist of all time. Both Nana Mouskori and Barbra Streisand (and I also guess Madonna) had sold more albums at the time, but MC was in the wind at the moment.
(Tuesday 7 July 2026; 17:46)
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The greatest female artist of all time snub (114,109)
by Bobby A from United States
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Why doesn't the music industry recognize MC more as the greatest female artist of all time? We all know that she has definitely earned the title. I think the music industry doesn't want to recognize her as the versatile artist that she is because it would cause an uproar among Whitney Houston's fanbase and stir up the whole debate of MC being the female artist who started the trend of merging pop, R&B and hip hop together.
(Tuesday 7 July 2026; 03:50)
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Wedding (114,105)
by TJ from Norway
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Do you think or know if Mariah was invited to TS wedding?
(Sunday 5 July 2026; 15:27)
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MC in the studio (114,086)
by TJ from Norway
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How accurate was your crystal ball before the release of MC16?
(Friday 3 July 2026; 02:12)
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MC in the studio (114,074)
by Bobby A from United States
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What if MC releases next year her best first single since Honey? Her vocals on the song have that buttery tone with the vocal layering and adlibs that she has been known for. This is what I foresee in the future. MC wants to make her return to the top again. MC17 just may be the album that will get her that Robin Roberts' interview to promote the new album.
(Thursday 2 July 2026; 03:24)
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MC in the studio (114,082)
by TJ from Norway
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Madonna doesn't change it, she makes it. That's the difference.
(Thursday 2 July 2026; 23:08)
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MC in the studio (114,080)
by nancy from Switzerland
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Mariah was more or less forced by Tommy and her label into pop music. Because they wanted the music to sound more white. She was always attached to Rnb. Doing the remixes she was a bit more free in her artistry. Eg. [Anytime you need a friend] remix, [Always be my baby] ( with Jdand Xscape ) etc. There she implemented gospel and soul and even dance. She wanted the songs to sound more Rnb. After her divorce from Tommy she could finally do what she really wanted. Butterfly was her Rnb influenced start. Many fans which liked pop and ballads better, were not so happy about it. She was pretty successful with Rnb too. In my humble opinion: I think she has to stick with what she likes. We have already more than enough pop singers in the business. What I like about Mariah is, that she doesn't hop on every trend and that makes her authentic. Many stars change genres to stay relevant. Eg Madonna, JLo etc.
(Thursday 2 July 2026; 16:23)
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MC in the studio (114,076)
by TJ from Norway
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Thank you Edward. I've been saying it for years now. The boring RnB is not the way to go, and hasn't been for ages. Sadly I think she will go for the same formula again. It's actually better to make an instrumental album if she doesn't have those nodules removed. Her 2025 voice was just painful to listen to.
What happened to her alternative grunge album?
(Thursday 2 July 2026; 09:06)
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MC in the studio (114,073)
by Edward from USA
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They told Mariah she would likely lose the whistle register, not her singing voice completely. I've even seen some voice experts say that the nodules themselves don't create the whistle register, they may have just made it easier for her to access it, that she would only have to find it again after surgery.
I totally understand why she didn't want to have surgery back then. Her voice was still incredible, and I can see why she wouldn't want to risk changing something that was working. But now? Even the whistle register doesn't sound pleasing to the ear, so what's really the point? Personally, I'd rather hear her regular singing voice restored to a decent level than keep holding on to a pony that isn't really doing that one trick anymore.
Even though you didn't mention it, a lot of fans like to bring up Julie Andrews as a reason Mariah was right not to have her nodules removed. I don't think that's a fair comparison. Julie's voice was damaged because of complications during surgery that wasn't intended to treat vocal nodules or improve a singer's voice. Mariah would've been having a specialized microsurgery specifically designed to remove vocal nodules while preserving vocal function. They're two completely different situations. With today's technology and experienced laryngeal surgeons, that procedure has a very good success rate. Singers like Adele and many others have had vocal fold surgery and returned to performing at a very high level.
And let's be real, she's 57. That ship may have already sailed, but I still think she has one last chance to go out with a banger. Give us an amazing album with killer vocals, even if they have to be tweaked in the studio. I really don't care at this point.
Whatever she's cooking up in the studio, I just hope it's not another old tired safe R&B album. If there was ever a time to surprise everyone and do something completely unexpected, it's now. R&B is clearly not the hit making machine it was in the '90s and 2000s, and I don't think she's fully accepted that yet.
And please, don't make us wait another seven years. By then we'll all be comparing our cholesterol medication, and Mariah would be talking in her albums.
(Wednesday 1 July 2026; 18:27)
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It's a wrap (114,031)
by TJ from Norway
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I usually just agree with everything you say, but don't you think that people who has experienced unstable lives as kids are often copying the same lifestyle them self?
(Tuesday 23 June 2026; 00:52)
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It's a wrap (114,028)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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"I think Nick leaving broke her to the core." That's what I think too. And it's so sad. Mariah really thought it is a "love story" and he did "the impossible" but that clownish, egomaniac man only broke her inner heart. He and Stella are the worst. Back then I had a bad feeling when the news were telling that she will marry him after such a short time. But that he became such a nightmare, it was a bad surprise. Mariah always wanted a stable family for own (after all her experiences from childhood on) but he left her with two kids and made many babies with diffrent women. He's a shame as a man and as a person. A second divorce is one thing and hard enough, but Nick made her look like a fool. I also feel sorry for the children, they will have questions soon. I hope they can be a little support for Mariah when they are grown-up. Mariah needs a true soul, I hope one day she'll find him. She deserves happiness with a real man. But no more clowns, then it's better to be alone and find inner peace and strength again. Good friends can help too.
(Sunday 21 June 2026; 14:34)
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It's a wrap (114,030)
by TJ from Norway
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I think she did a good performance in Stavanger, Norway after that. Was it all live? No. Was it only lippet? No. I enjoyed it.
(Tuesday 23 June 2026; 00:47)
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It's a wrap (114,029)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC's 2016 New Year's Eve disastrous performance broke her as well. It broke her so much that she wrote Portrait. MC really hasn't been the same on any stage since that awful moment. I hope she can find her groove again on stage by moving more and singing live. Wouldn't it be cool if she partnered up with Tiana Taylor to help with her stage presence prior to launching MC17?
(Monday 22 June 2026; 02:26)
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It's a wrap (113,972)
by TJ from Norway
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Your last point made me laugh. It is so sad if that is the real problem with her creativity. It is time to claim those insurance money.
(Sunday 14 June 2026; 11:32)
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It's a wrap (113,971)
by Lambi from USA
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She's definitely still one hell of a writer though. With You proves that. And if you took away some of the production and the state of her voice, Cry, HFIA, and NII were pretty stellar work.
But fair, meds absolutely affect your creative process. She still has her writing chops, but because of this seemingly declining health she's got going on, it just takes longer.
Another thing I noticed is that Mariah has always said she likes to go on walks for ideas to come and marinate. It's also a way for creatives to work through a mental block. She can't even walk now.
(Sunday 14 June 2026; 08:15)
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MC 2017? (113,970)
by TJ from Norway
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I think she has stagnated as a musician a long time ago. She makes what she thinks is safe, and then it fails. This old school RnB is just boring (in my opinion). Her voice has become metallic and sounds more like the chipmunks characters. It's difficult to hear what she is singing, because of the voice and the mumbling throughout some songs. I also think that her lyrics used to be more mature back in the days. It's to much swearing and brand naming in her latest work. The melodies are almost gone compared to how she sang and produced in her early days. I'm tired of the "I don't know her" attitude, and I think she has lost that fight against J.Lo (who acts much more mature, polite and classy about the whole thing). Mariah comes out as simple and bitter, acting like a spoiled child. Her interviews are not interesting because there has been absolutely nothing new for the last 10-15 years. It's like she's on repeat. She doesn't get the respect she wants and there's reasons for that. She just doesn't realise it.
I believe that most people outside this board think she is an outdated diva with crazy demands and no connection with the real world (or that she stopped making music in 2005). Most of my friends can't stand her, and when I mention her name to people they are either "who is that?" or "she is horrible". Guess who is fighting for her in those discussions. That's me.
(Sunday 14 June 2026; 08:09)
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MC 2017? (113,956)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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You don't have to love everything Mariah does to be a fan. But saying it's "so many things" without actually explaining what those things are doesn't really say much. If your feelings have changed, that's valid. I'm just curious what specifically changed for you.
(Friday 12 June 2026; 11:32)
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MC 2017? (113,954)
by TJ from Norway
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I'm not a real fan. Bla bla bla. It's not only her last album. It's so many things. I didn't say that I never going to check out her next project. But it's not how it used to be.
(Friday 12 June 2026; 07:23)
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MC 2017? (113,946)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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You've been a fan since 1990, yet one album erased 35 years of support? Sounds less like loyalty and more like nostalgia with a volume knob. If the "true Mariah" only exists in the past, maybe you're a fan of your memories rather than the artist herself.
(Wednesday 10 June 2026; 18:21)
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MC 2017? (113,943)
by TJ from Norway
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I'm all the same. I've been standing by her side since 1990, but her latest album was the last drop for me. I bought my self a new sound system with dvd/cd player. I now enjoy her old music, and what I will call the "true Mariah", and yes, I will keep on posting here.
(Wednesday 10 June 2026; 16:38)
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MC 2017? (113,939)
by Dave from USA
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For me, I have already lost my excitement for another MC album. At least for now. All the promotion in the world can't change the fact that she can't sing/perform. She comes off as zombie like in interviews now. Im guessing it could be maintenance medication for her disorder, which is completely understandable, but is it worth damaging her legacy further or getting a shell of what she used to be? The excitement always return the closer she gets to releasing new music, but as soon as I see her lackluster non live performance, it just ruins the momentum.
(Wednesday 10 June 2026; 05:02)
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Death Becomes Her (113,926)
by TJ from Norway
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Looking at those pictures of MC in the white dress, makes me a little sad. When I was younger, I hoped that she would age with grace and not fall into this plastic fantastic world of celebrities. Yes, she looks "youthful", but it is not her face anymore. It's like looking at a completely different person, when you compare her 1992 face and now. It looks sad, hurt and soulless. Anyone seen the movie Death Becomes Her?
(Saturday 6 June 2026; 09:02)
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Mariah cover songs (113,799)
by TJ from Norway
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But no Chain of Fools?
(Monday 11 May 2026; 18:06)
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Mariah cover songs (113,798)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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A covers compilation album is an excellent idea. Mariah has so many great and lesser known cover songs, and it would be great to have them all in one place.
1. Don't Play That Song (Live) 2. I'll Be There 3. Just Be Good To Me (live from Music Box Tour or Daydream Tour) 4. Without You 5. My Prayer 6. Endless Love 7. Open Arms 8. The Beautiful Ones 9. If You Only Knew (live) 10. Got to Be Real (live with Patti LaBelle) 11. I Still Believe 12. Sweetheart 13. Do You Know Where You're Going To? 14. Against All Odds 15. Out Here On My Own 16. Didn't Mean to Turn You On 17. Last Night a DJ Saved My Life (No Rap Version) 18. Bringin' on the Heartbreak 19. You And I (Live) 20. With You I Am Born Again (live with John Legend) 21. Help Me Make It Through the Night (from "Tennessee") 22. I Want to Know What Love Is 23. One More Try 24. Lullaby of Birdland (live) 25. Don't Explain (live) 26. My Love
This could easily be a two-disc compilation, and I bet Mariah has some others buried in the vault.
(Monday 11 May 2026; 16:31)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,782)
by TJ from Norway
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That's the same video that we have been discussing.
I became a huge fan during the release of her debut album, but started collecting cd singles in 1993, and are still looking for some old "gold" from her first two albums. I'm just so glad I experienced the pre-diva version.
(Wednesday 6 May 2026; 19:08)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,779)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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I don't know what the fuss is about Brenda K. Starr and Mariah here, so I didn't jump into the discussion. And then I came across this video and watched it.
Some comments about her are not nice, but one thing is for sure. Whether people acknowledge it or not, Brenda is instrumental in Mariah's career. And I like her too.
(Wednesday 6 May 2026; 14:40)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,752)
by TJ from Norway
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But Brenda K Starr is also making up a story here, isn't she (not asking myself, just adding something more to my other message)? Didn't Mariah release I still Believe in 1998 or something, and the Around the World DVD in 99? Wasn't her breakdown in 2001? We are all getting older and forgetful. That includes Brenda too.
(Friday 1 May 2026; 10:12)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,751)
by TJ from Norway
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I think Brenda is telling the truth about how the tape was given to Tommy. I am sure I both read interviews about this in the early 90's, and heard Mariah tell this on tv. It's the same with the acting. She said in the early 90's that she didn't want to be an actress, because singers should do what they know. She also was against having kids that would grow up in the public eye.
My former neighbor used to work for Sony Music, and met her/worked with her a lot of times when she gave interviews or was doing other promotional stuff, and she said that Mariah went from being a humble and shy person to lose contact with the real world in just a few years (already around 1994 when she released her Christmas album). She was a totally different person in her eyes.
I think Mariah who lives in Mariah World, tries to make her own story to fit in what picture she wants us to believe in. And I think that she believes it's the truth, even if it's not. It's very easy to give people (or make) false memories of how things went.
I hope that my message makes some sense.
(Friday 1 May 2026; 09:46)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,751)
by TJ from Norway
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I think Brenda is telling the truth about how the tape was given to Tommy. I am sure I both read interviews about this in the early 90's, and heard Mariah tell this on tv. It's the same with the acting. She said in the early 90's that she didn't want to be an actress, because singers should do what they know. She also was against having kids that would grow up in the public eye.
My former neighbor used to work for Sony Music, and met her/worked with her a lot of times when she gave interviews or was doing other promotional stuff, and she said that Mariah went from being a humble and shy person to lose contact with the real world in just a few years (already around 1994 when she released her Christmas album). She was a totally different person in her eyes.
I think Mariah who lives in Mariah World, tries to make her own story to fit in what picture she wants us to believe in. And I think that she believes it's the truth, even if it's not. It's very easy to give people (or make) false memories of how things went.
I hope that my message makes some sense.
(Friday 1 May 2026; 09:46)
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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,745)
by Haiji from United States
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Any thoughts? After watching this, I actually feel bad for her. I'm not sure how much of this story is true but it's sad to see her tell it.
(Thursday 30 April 2026; 15:10)
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Rainbow influence (113,738)
by TJ from Norway
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Did Taylor Swift the same back in 2014?
(Wednesday 29 April 2026; 23:05)
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Rainbow influence (113,734)
by Bobby A from United States
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After reading that Ariana's eight album will be called Petals, I can tell that she really thinks the world of Mariah Carey. Ariana has been doing her best to emulate MC for past three years. She is enamored with love for MC. I already see the Rainbow connection and influence with the Eternal Sunshine tour and the Petal summer album drop. I can't wait for Petals to drop on July 31st. Does anyone else feel what Ariana is trying say about her love for MC?
(Wednesday 29 April 2026; 07:25)
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The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,690)
by TJ from Norway
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This has to be by far the best comment I've read in a long time. This describes ithe situation perfectly.
(Wednesday 22 April 2026; 04:50)
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The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,684)
by Bill from the UK
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Good post. The issue I have is there is a whole generation now who only know her as this extravagant diva, who shuffles around like some aging silver screen actress in denial about her fading youth. They know her for a Christmas song that swings by every year, defrosting, and being a diva. They didn't see If It's Over on SNL. They didn't witness the Daydream tour (I attended London by the way). They didn't get swept up in Joy to the World at St John the Divine. They see her getting wheeled out every so often to lip sync, grumble about the bad lighting, have a pop at J.Lo, and then get carried away as the Butterfly outro plays.
The bad now outweighs the good.
(Tuesday 21 April 2026; 09:22)
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Here It For All (113,681)
by TJ from Norway
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Is it the range, or the nasal metallic sound that is the problem with her voice these days? I tried to listen to the same song a couple of weeks ago, but I had to turn it off, because the sound of her voice just hurt my ears. It is not pleasant to listen to.
(Monday 20 April 2026; 06:49)
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Here It For All (113,677)
by Bobby A from United States
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I listened to the ballad HFIA today and you can tell MC's 90s voice is still there underneath all that is ailing her vocal chords. I hope MC finds a doctor who can help improve accessing her range again. I believe miracles can happen if we only have faith the size of a mustard seed.
(Monday 20 April 2026; 02:29)
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Mariah's too epic for words (113,637)
by TJ from Norway
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Maybe she doesn't have enough fans to vote for her to win. There's no secret that she lost millions of fans in the late 90's. The few that has attended after that, aren't enough.
(Friday 17 April 2026; 14:51)
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Mariah's too epic for words (113,628)
by Nikki from usa
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If Mariah didn't have respect in the industry, she wouldn't have been nominated 3 times. Who do you think allows her on the ballot? It's not the fans that choose that, it's the fans that vote for the finalists. You didn't, therefore she isn't.
I keep forgetting this is a board of Celine fans who also like Mariah's 1993 work. This just in - respect isn't a clothing line. Nobody is in the [Hall of Fame] for their attire. The HOF is heavily influenced by rock and roll. The Beatles aren't well loved - they're well promoted, frequently hyped up, have documentaries all the time, and even a movie or two. That's called PR. Because people make big money off of them.
Whitney was never nominated while she was alive. She could've been inducted in 2010. Let that sink in. Are you going to claim it was because of the drugs? That's pretty rock n' roll. She had a career push and a movie about her after her death, because - gasp - the industry can now make money off of her. They even have her hologram on tour.
MC has her own publishing and doesn't allow her music to be used. They can't make money off of her, yet she's nominated. Meanwhile, she has no strong fanbase. They scattered. Pink and Shakira's are highly active and engaged. Half of Mariah's didn't know she was up for the award, how to vote for her, and that they could do it more than once. MC's fans aren't engaged - it's been over 25 years and you're all still harping on her clothes. Deep as a puddle.
(Friday 17 April 2026; 08:39)
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MC17 (113,608)
by TJ from Norway
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I think it is sad that she didn't go pop earlier. Why follow the flow, when you can make the way? I really, really hope that she is done with RnB. I know I am.
(Monday 13 April 2026; 22:07)
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MC17 (113,605)
by Giovanni from USA
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I don't know if I asked this before so if I did I apologize. What direction do some of you want Mariah to take with the next album? For me I would like more r&b with a touch of pop. Unfortunately r&b is kind of dead right now, most artists are doing pop/adult contemporary. Mariah was able to pull off r&b with Caution so maybe she could do it again but I think she needs something like "Beautiful" or "Dreamlover". I heard Pharrell Williams was contacted by a legendary female artist so I wonder if it was Mariah, Beyonce or someone else? I just hope the next album makes more noise and doesn't have anymore 2 minute songs lol.
(Monday 13 April 2026; 05:56)
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A full-throated defense of Glitter (113,547)
by TJ from Norway
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I can't remember Mariah saying that she always wanted to act when she was growing up. I do remember reading interviews where she said that she didn't want to be an actress, and that singers/musicians should stick to what they knew, which was music. If this was after the release of Bodyguard or Evita, I can't recall.
(Sunday 5 April 2026; 07:16)
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A full-throated defense of Glitter (113,544)
by Lambi from USA
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My acting coach said that for acting to be believable, the actor needs to have experienced the emotions, or at least been in close proximity to what they're trying to portray with their facial expressions. This is why Heath Ledger purposely isolated himself in a hotel room to develop the mindset of the Joker. He fully immersed himself in the psyche of his character. It's called method acting.
I'd say Mariah did well in scenes that have everything to do with being a singer-songwriter. Finding out her song was on the radio for the first time. Getting more excited as the melody she's writing improves. These are all emotions she had already felt, and they came out naturally in the movie.
But it was also sometimes inconsistent. For instance, she did really well lip syncing Don't Funk at that club when she was put on the spot by Dice, then did pretty poorly miming All My Life when she took over Sylk in the studio.
The more family-oriented emotions, like seeing her movie mom on drugs and wandering the streets, probably came from similar feelings to dealing with Alison. Then there are the Tommy-related emotions required for Dice's tantrums and jealousy. When he called Da Brat fat ass, she might have drawn from emotions tied to when Tommy degraded Diddy. Her acting was very strong in that scene in my opinion. Then being physically threatened by Terrence Howard because Dice didn't pay 100k. Those reference emotions could connect to what she felt when Tommy put a knife to her cheek.
I wouldn't say she was objectively bad, but a bit unseasoned. I don't think she was quite ready for a lead role just yet. I also felt like it needed better cinematography. I'd even argue better songs. Mariah has written such vivid songs. She quite literally paints a picture with her lyrics. This would have been the perfect opportunity to write another Underneath the Stars or Fourth of July, but instead we got the haunting, suicide-themed Twister, which felt awkwardly shoehorned into her mother's disappearance. It felt like, "whatever, we have to make use of the soundtrack, let's just put this here". Overall, the movie direction fell far short of her songwriting's standard.
Mariah's always said all she wanted to be was a singer and an actress growing up. Actress being there is a pretty big deal. I'd say with the right material and once all the inhibitions are gone, she could be great. She's proven this with Precious. I'm not shutting down MC just yet in her acting pursuit. She's got a larger emotions palette just from what she went through the last 15 years, meaning there are plenty of inspirations to take from.
(Sunday 5 April 2026; 00:40)
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Prisoner (113,542)
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Is this old news, or have this link been discussed before? It says no AI, and that it is from the demo. Well I'm not sure about that, but it sounds like something from the demo tape that I found on YouTube. I like the bass on this one. How about you?
(Saturday 4 April 2026; 13:54)
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Glitter - my wish for MC in 2026 (113,519)
by TJ from Norway
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That's just my subjective opinion, just as yours is also subjective. I was at the cinema watching it and believe me it was cringe to sit there with only two others. The reason was not bad marketing, but bad acting and horrible reviews because of that.
Mariah doesn't express emotions when acting. She can make a small part in a movie ok, but no more than that. She doesn't use her voice other than in a monotone way, her hands are divaish when acting, and her face expressions doesn't look natural. She should not continue in that direction. That's my opinion, and nothing more, but I express it here.
Happy easter.
(Wednesday 1 April 2026; 15:52)
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Glitter - my wish for MC in 2026 (113,518)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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It's a bit harsh to say that it was embarrassing to watch Glitter. I don't agree with that. I enjoyed it very much.
Her small role in "The Bachelor" with Chris O'Donnell and Renée Zellweger- she was good there, basically playing the character similar to her role as Raychel from Wisegirls.
And let´s be real - neither Mariah or Whitney are actresses. Mariah was pushed to hard to work and the result was rushed.
(Wednesday 1 April 2026; 14:30)
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Glitter - my wish for MC in 2026 (113,515)
by TJ from Norway
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I too love the album. I don't call it a soundtrack, because I'm in denial about the existence of that movie.
(Wednesday 1 April 2026; 10:46)
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Glitter - my wish for MC in 2026 (113,509)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Yes, I saw the movie twice with my friends at my hometown. I was a teen back then. We had a good time at the cinema, we almost had the cinema hall for ourself. I still have the cinema magazine and ticket. I have also poignant memories, it was the time the carefree 90ies really finally ended because of 9/11. But back to MC, I love Glitter the album, the movie is okay, it's not so bad. I have it on DVD, it was also my first DVD, it was quite expensive.
(Monday 30 March 2026; 20:23)
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