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Re: Bill (92,849) (92,850) by Bill from the UK I don't think being honest and realistic about a situation is necessarily negative. It's a fact and it is what it is. I love Mariah dearly but my concern is more around what this facade is doing for someone who has said she is insecure and is mentally unwell enough to be diagnosed with bipolar. Just as she stopped enabling Alison all those years ago, I think we are (and forgive the dramatic turn of phrase) but killing her with kindness. If every time she gets up on stage and lip syncs another number we respond with "yas queen slay I don't know her" then it only heightens her insecurities and instabilities. Any true fan, that genuinely cares for her as a person rather than a commodity to score number 1s so you can throw it in Ariana's fans faces, would be happy for her to come clean and remove that burden. I used to be a very successful swimmer in my youth, to the point that I was in training for the Olympics. However, an accident at work damaged my shoulder which meant my swimming career was over immediately. I don't re-run clips of me in the pool winning medals from 1999 and say it was filmed yesterday. It's a sad, unfortunate event but it happened. Much as Mariah losing her voice all those years ago was. It does annoy me when the first response is to stick your fingers in your ear and call me negative, when really I am speaking the truth here. Nothing I said was made up, it's just that the truth hurts when it's about somebody you love, which is understandable. (Friday 14 February 2020; 15:02)

Bill (92,849) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I have noticed that you become apart of the negative bunch as well, what point does it serve to be negative towards someone who you claim to respect and love? Or is being negative is how you men express your love in the UK? Again being negative does not mean being honest. Also I guess you are perfect with everything that you do. Because the last time I checked we all have limitations at some point no matter who you or how great you were. Our bodies change every day. Again MC is human just like the rest of us, and yes she has been considered one of the best to ever do it. But again if you can no longer appreciate or respect what is left of her talent, I think that you should move onto other artists who talents, and arts you have desire, and respect for, and stop bashing MC to those who still love, respect, and admire what she has done, and continues to do. (Friday 14 February 2020; 14:33)

Re: Andrew (92,845) (92,848) by Bill from the UK "Her breathy vocals, low notes, mid notes, falsetto and her whistle register are on fire. And she can still reach those high notes." In honestly, they aren't and she can't. And you know that (no one is that delusional/gullible, surely?). Mariah cannot get through one song without playback or lip syncing, and she hasn't sung a live whistle note in at least five years. It's great that you defend and support her, but stop lying. (Friday 14 February 2020; 14:06)

Re: Andrew (92,845) (92,847) by Bobby A from United States Y'all stop letting Andrew give you PTSD. (Friday 14 February 2020; 13:59)

Rihanna and The Neptunes (92,846) by Bobby A from United States Rihanna is back in the studio with the Neptunes. R9 ain't done yet. Everytime they work together or separately their sound is always fresh and inviting. I hope MC can get back in the studio with them again. The work Pharrell did on Ariana's Sweetner was some of his best work to date. (Friday 14 February 2020; 13:46)

Re: Andrew (92,840) (92,845) by We are Lambily from USA Thank you Gee, I have been saying that for years. I believe he needs a hug or something. I have never meet a fan so negative towards the person they claim to love. Mariah is still doing it. Her breathy vocals, low notes, mid notes, falsetto and her whistle register are on fire. And she can still reach those high notes. Who cares about those belting high notes. Caution was and is everything. It outsold Kesha and Meghan Trainor new albums in pure sales. Some of you guys always love to disrespect Mariah. I'm sick of fans (Friday 14 February 2020; 09:36)

Re: No vocal audit (92,826) (92,844) by Geronimo from USA Mariah Carey doesn't owe you anything. You spend enough time on this board to make it obvious to everyone that you know exactly what her voice sounds like on wax, on video, and in person. She is an entertainer and not your employee. Her voice is waning - it happens and it doesn't require a special report on the condition of her body. You sound like you've made an investment in her career and she has defrauded you. But an obnoxious customer who loves to pick and whine is not an investor. He's just a strange case of a person who has a bizarre obsession with an American female performer. (Friday 14 February 2020; 07:50)

Re: In The Fix (92,835) (92,843) by Bill from the UK Noodles lol. (Friday 14 February 2020; 07:22)

Re: In The Fix (92,835) (92,842) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Having Demnodules removed doesn't guarantee anything. A lot of factors contribute to vocal change. Mariah would be better off taking the safer route by making lifestyle changes and making more disciplined choices as these the only factors she has truly has any control of. Aging, hormonal changes caused by motherhood and menopause, etc. have and will continue to contribute to her vocal evolution, for better or for worse, for as long as she lives. Comparisons of her vocal journey to similar singers may be valid, albeit to a certain, very limited extent mostly due to another crucial factor - individual differences. This is probably why you rarely see singers in popular music being openly and outwardly critical of their peers' abilities because they understand that everyone's path is different; plus no one can discount there's the added enormous pressure put on them by being in the industry, being under constant scrutiny of the public eye and the stresses that these cause which artists will react to and deal with differently, mentally, emotionally and physiologically. (Friday 14 February 2020; 02:29)

No Time To Die - Billie Elish (92,841) by Bobby A from United States This song is so good. I swear Billie is channeling MC in the way she is singing in haunting breathy vocals. No Time To Die has a dramatic climax simliar to Lead The Way. Finneas and MC need to collaborate together soon. He could really capture MC's signature style in such a way for an undeniable hit song. (Friday 14 February 2020; 02:29)

Andrew (92,840) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Andrew I have to admit that you truly a grinch if everything about Mariah nowadays bothers you why continue to come on this message and speak your disdain for daily? Honestly if you no longer can appreciate her, or her talent simply move on, and let the people who still enjoy, and appreciate her allow them to do in peace. You have stated the same issues for quite some time now, and it is quite annoying at this point. If you want Mariah from a certain time there is always YouTube. Either accept that she has limitations just like the rest of the world, or move on and support other artists that you enjoy today. (Friday 14 February 2020; 01:18)

ASCAP (92,839) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I personally think besides the publishing and licensing rights to her catalog of music I am sure that MC has not fulfilled her journey as an artist so I know she some more music to come. Besides that I do not think her contact with Epic is done just yet. I believe that it was a multi album deal. So again I do believe that she will be around until she is ready to call it a day. (Friday 14 February 2020; 01:07)

Thumbs up (92,838) by Andrew from the United Kingdom If you are not worried in the slightest about the state of Mariah's voice right now, you'd have to be mad. (Friday 14 February 2020; 00:13)

Re: No vocal audit (92,831) (92,837) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "Give it a rest" by Mariah Carey (featuring The Smeezingtons and Bruno Mars) (Friday 14 February 2020; 00:10)

Re: Vocal decline (92,833) (92,836) by Susana from USA Exactly, you took the words out of my mouth. “The one thing that amuses me the most is the fact if anyone of you talking her down on this board would have the cojones to utter your 'humble' amateurish opinion to her in the flesh?“ (Thursday 13 February 2020; 23:32)

In The Fix (92,835) by Will from Australia I’m interested to know what everyone thinks about this, if Mariah had the option to have surgery on her vocal chords and remove the noodles but would risk losing her voice altogether or gaining back Daydream tour vocals, would you say do it? (Thursday 13 February 2020; 23:16)

Re: No vocal audit (92,826) (92,834) by Hanno van Leeuwen from The Netherlands Well good for you, applause. So maybe you should go to Vegas and sing your 6 Mariah and Celine songs. But I will not and I repeat, will not buy a ticket.. (Thursday 13 February 2020; 21:19)

Re: Vocal decline (92,787) (92,833) by Tijl from Belgium The one thing that amuses me the most is the fact if anyone of you talking her down on this board would have the cojones to utter your "humble" amateurish opinion to her in the flesh? (Thursday 13 February 2020; 20:56)

Re: The fans decline (92,814) (92,832) by B from USA Caution is still selling and received rave reviews and Mariah just scored her 19th #1 most of the damage the Stella era did to her reputation has been repaired. Besides, the general public doesn't listen to what YouTube vocal coaches say. Last year was the first year since the Rockefeller debacle that my friends didn't post that video to my social media pages. (Thursday 13 February 2020; 20:19)

Re: No vocal audit (92,826) (92,831) by B from USA Give it a rest. (Thursday 13 February 2020; 20:10)

Mariah's voice (92,830) by Terna from Nigeria To be fair, she has already in a way addressed this issue in stating that she infact has nodules - a singer's Achilles heel. And this admission explains a lot as to why with every era her voice has constantly kept changing especially when she started doing live shows (1993 Music Box era I believe). Its like her voice started losing its "form" so to speak. And no she does not really slay like she used to and I know she knows that too. I would be thrilled if she hires some form of a vocal coach or and speech therapist. (Thursday 13 February 2020; 17:37)

Re: No vocal audit (92,826) (92,829) by Tijl from Belgium Indeed it is not fair, Naomi got a little help from Dr. Botox and Mr. Filler. (Thursday 13 February 2020; 17:09)

Re: ASCAP (92,827) (92,828) by RibbonB from USA Tehehehe, I learned what they were when I was a kid and used to study cassette or album sleeves cover to cover. I used to think ASCAP was the best because so many faves used them. If you read the fine print of songwriters and publishing names you'll see which association they are with at the time. Multiple songwriters may have the same or different ones on the same song. It's just their personal choice. (Thursday 13 February 2020; 16:43)

Re: ASCAP (92,825) (92,827) by Licia from USA I wasn't sure actually exactly what ASCAP or BMI was, but I knew it had something to do with money. I understood that much. (Thursday 13 February 2020; 15:20)

Re: No vocal audit (92,823) (92,826) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Strangers feel entitled to a report on Mariah's vocal health when those very strangers pay her bucket loads of money to hear her sing and come away feeling let down and perplexed. Are those strangers entitled to a refund? The comparison of Mariah's voice to a model's skin is not a fair one. Naomi Campbell did not start wrinkling at age 27, did not look very rough by age 40 and can still crack a smile at age 50. Mariah's voice isn't aging as a matter of course. I can sing exactly the same as I did 20 years ago and I belt out about 6 Mariah and Celine songs in the shower per day, stretching my voice to the limit, without fail. I bet most people here do and probably moreso than Mariah since she belts nothing anywhere, anymore and has not done so for a long time. A long time. So I don't really care if Mariah tells us what happened. The simple observation was that something has really gone wrong recently and is getting worse. She cannot physically sing and it doesn't look like she enjoys it. These concerts should stop. Period. She has knackered her voice out. For her own sake, she needs to stop touring and try to hopefully recover what little she has left so that the odd good televised performance is possible. Any fan painting a gloss over this is acting with selfishness. (Thursday 13 February 2020; 14:35)

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