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The arrogance (112,278) by Geronimo from USA Have a free correction for your benefit: distinguish between the fact that while, perhaps you are not "that deep", the matter at hand is most certainly "that deep". You and Mariah will soon see more clearly. Now, "cheers, cheers, cheers". (Thursday 6 November 2025; 15:59) this is a reply to message 112,273

The arrogance (112,273) by Lambi from USA Bro it's literally not that deep. (Thursday 6 November 2025; 12:32)

The arrogance (112,268) by Geronimo from USA You seem to be attempting to miss the point in public on purpose. Standing up for what is right is non-negotiable - especially when the public is bringing your betrayal to your attention while you try to hustle religious songs at Christmas about love, joy, and peace. If she had any foresight at all, she might want to consider canceling her Christmas charade this year - especially since her latest album stands as a very public statement regarding the difference between what is happening on stage and what audiences will be hearing. Entertainment is all fine and good. But, when the time comes to step up, you either step up or be counted for what you are. If all Mariah sang about was "panties to the side", then perhaps addressing her as a moral being would be a moot point. Not everybody has to say everything, every time, about every issue, but Mariah Carey is making money endorsing a company whose CEO is using the money that Mariah Carey is making for Sephora to donate millions of dollars intended to directly support a racist, apartheid state currently committing a live-streamed genocide I believe Mariah Carey has used the public airways to the show pictures of Nelson Mandela in her deluxe apartment in the sky, no? Then, it's relevant to hold her accountable for the fact that all you have to do is Google "Sephora boycott" and the first three stories that pop up have to do with a Christian woman who sings songs about Jesus, but is dedicating her talent to the people who are destroying the lives of the people born where he lived and was literally executed by the state because he was committed to being an authentic enough version of himself that he became a threat to the goals of the Roman empire. Mariah Carey, who is not broke, chooses to use what she calls her God-given talent to enrich people "making large donations to former President Donald Trump's 2024 presidential campaign" while she sings "its tiiiiiime" to listen to her lip sync "glory to the newborn King" and "peace on earth". While she partners with Sephora, company owner Bernard Arnault invests hundreds of millions in Israeli companies while that nation is actively committing what everyone whose opinion counts has acknowledged is a genocide. She sings about diamonds and comments in public that she doesn't understand why some people don't "like" diamonds, all the while Sephora founder, chairman, and CEO Bernard Arnault - who invests hundreds of millions in Israeli companies, including Lusix, an Israeli diamond company - donates millions of dollars to companies from the country whose diamond exports fund over $1 billion of the Israeli Occupation Forces budget annually. LVMH's Sephora stores retail products from Ahava, one of the top 8 companies on the BDS boycott list for stealing Palestine's natural resources, eviscerating its environment, and operating in illegal settlements. So it matters that Mariah Carey is either too ignorant, too greedy, or both to make a morally intelligent decision at her age. With all the capacity she has to know better and do better, she is actively and willfully doing far less than people who have with far less but are, themselves, putting their lives and careers on the line in order to be the kind of witness to peace and love that Mariah only sings about in her songs - her notable charitable contributions notwithstanding. And let's not forget, in her personal life, Mariah Carey made the choice to date James Packer - a man who (allegedly) gave war Benjamin Netanyahu a key to his home - also the man whose gifts to Benjamin Netanyahu are the reason why Benjamin Netanyahu is currently up on corruption charges. These are her choices. She is not simply failing to burn her bra on stage and release a protest album. She is actively earning money with some of the most evil people currently on the world stage today. That matters - and saying so has nothing to do with "arrogance". If Eartha Kitt can do better, Mariah Carey can do better. If Aretha Franklin, Nina Simone, Billie Holiday, Sinead O'Connor, Lauryn Hill, and the artists formerly known as the Dixie Chicks can do better (and they certainly did), then Mariah Carey can at least Google herself and recognize that she is being exposed as a fraud (again) and do something about it now. And yes, I still love "Confetti and Champagne", because she's a phenomenal singer, a very clever songwriter, and the song is super cute. But it sounds a little different right about now. (Thursday 6 November 2025; 03:29) this is a reply to message 112,264

The arrogance (112,264) by Edward from USA Equating public political statements with meaningful action isn't always accurate. Mariah has contributed to social causes for decades, quietly. She has shown up repeatedly for communities without turning those moments into a branding exercise. That's substantial, even if it's not loud. Mariah didn't come from privilege, she came from instability, racism, abuse, and financial hardship. Her early music speaks very directly to those realities: "Make It Happen", "There's Got to Be a Way", "Outside", "Close My Eyes", "Petals", and many others. Speaking about struggle has always been part of her work. The fact that she now sometimes chooses to celebrate comfort, joy, and luxury is not a moral failing, it's a reflection of someone who survived things she no longer wants to be defined by. Not every artist is obligated to take a public political stance once they become successful. And choosing not to endorse a specific candidate or administration does not mean she is "siding with exploiters". It means she is aware of what can happen when artists become political mascots: the art becomes secondary to the performance of ideology. I think it is totally fair wanting more public advocacy from her, but implying she is betraying a "lineage" of artists for not campaigning is a projection that doesn't consider the full scope of her work or her life. Social engagement does not have to look the same for everyone, and it doesn't have to be broadcasted to be real. I don't think Mariah needs to put her awareness on display in order for it to be real. The expectation that she must constantly prove her principles, or investigate the lineage of anyone she dates, just to satisfy other people's political purity standards, is unreasonable. Holding her responsible for the actions or history of someone else's family crosses into the absurd. It's ridiculousness at its best. So, the moral police here should take an effing chill pill. Christmas is coming. (Wednesday 5 November 2025; 23:06)

Mariah Carey - socially tone deaf? Nothing new (112,261) by Geronimo from USA I wish your reply had made a little bit more sense. The point that I was making, however, is that you can provide people with entertainment without choosing repeatedly to make money by siding with the very people whose governing philosophies, labor policies, and anti-democratic fanaticism make life unaffordable and unlivable. Mariah Carey comes from a lineage of entertainers and artists who took public stands on social justice issues who, at the same time, never became less entertaining in the process. That lineage includes people like Aretha Franklin who volunteered to spend her personal money for Angela Davis' legal defense when no one else was willing yet to bridge the gap. That lineage also includes Stevie Wonder whose Christmas album taught me that beauty and sincerity in art makes it possible to spread joy and cheer while also refusing to remain silent while "men play with bombs while kids play with toys". I have not listened to that song, by the way, in over 25 years, but there is a reason why I not only remember that lyric, but also live and work according to the philosophy those lyrics helped me to begin developing as a child. The ability to entertain while also bearing witness to the truth when it counts is the reason why, even as I sit here and type this message, the very first vinyl I see in front of me across the room is his "Songs in the Key of Life". She makes a lot of money doing endorsements for and entertaining the people who are currently helping make life unaffordable and unlivable for working people. The city she loves - New York City - is about to elect someone who is making that city more affordable (if they let him). She could've done an "it's time" as an endorsement for him in order to balance her glam girl persona with a grown-ups' understanding of what is required of people to live a decent life in her beloved city right now. What would've possibly been the consequences for her if she had done that - lower album sales? I would be willing to excuse her social and morally tone deaf nonsense if she would, at the very least, risk her next paycheck by speaking truth to power now that she's rich enough to take the hit. No one expects her to be Rage Against the Machine or Tracy Chapman. However, she's getting close to her 60s while singing songs about confetti, champagne, diamonds, and flaunting pure luxury - and even recently shared what no one asked her to share concerning the fact she doesn't know why some people don't "like" diamonds. She should know why some people don't "like" diamonds in the year 2025. Songs like Hero, Can't Take That Away, Fly Like a Bird, Make It Happen, There's Got to Be a Way, and Jesus I Do further demonstrate that, while she can write an inspirational song about her personal perspective on things that matter to individuals, she suppresses the same "spirit" that inspires people who begin with those same sentiments but who, then, extend themselves beyond personal spiritual pick-me-ups to some mature capacity to make a social statement while standing in front of modern-day monarchs and labor exploiters. Her charity work is meaningful. But she needs to read more and, perhaps, talk to some more people who are not fans or hangers-on fans, but who work for living. Maybe then she would show people an example of what you can do in the face of multiple layers of catastrophe other than play the lonely rich cougar who helps the next generation console themselves while fantasizing about the lifestyles of the very people who are making their lives increasingly difficult as the days go by. She deserves all the criticism she gets on this score because she comes from a line of people who knew better and did better than what she's doing right now. (Wednesday 5 November 2025; 02:53) this is a reply to message 112,252

Mariah Carey - socially tone deaf? Nothing new (112,252) by Dove from United States So you think people should just be miserable all the time? Even the girl in Precious would pretend she was a famous singer to escape her wretched life for a few minutes. Enjoying the few nice things we have left doesn't mean we don't care about or see what's happening. Watching a movie or listening to an album is better than using drugs or other unhealthier mechanisms to cope. I agree with Lee. Her charity work speaks for itself. She's not a "Let Them Eat Cake" rich and never has been. There is no way you can compare her to the Trumps. Another thing, a lot of us who have been through a lot of trauma do disassociate to cope with life sometimes. But for example when my brother (who is a lot smarter than me) explains things to me and invites me to protests and parades, of course I go. I feel like Mariah is the same way. She chooses the right side. Even if she's not glued to propaganda channels all day. (Tuesday 4 November 2025; 11:32)

Mariah Carey - socially tone deaf? Nothing new (112,242) by Geronimo from USA Mariah Carey has always been socially tone deaf and her Sephora ad shows that age has probably given her an excuse to stop trying to hide it. She's in New York glam girl and in the Israeli apartheid age, has seriously dated a Zionist with connections to one of the most vile human rights violators of the current era. I know she sees herself as part of how people escape the "bleak" reality around them. She is also part of the problem as no one has the moral right to escape and encourage others to do so when the very act of always escaping is at least 75% of we (U.S. Americans) got here. (Tuesday 4 November 2025; 04:08)

Hostage release Nothing Is Impossible (111,862) by Geronimo from USA That would be utterly ridiculous - although, I am afraid Mariah would probably go for it with her ahistorical self. The better video for Nothing is Impossible would show the indigenous people returning to their home despite an international effort to remove them from the face of the planet and give their land to genocidal settlers. (Tuesday 14 October 2025; 19:36) this is a reply to message 111,843

Hostage release Nothing Is Impossible (111,843) by T from USA I just heard president Trump talk about the prisoners harrowing nights. And immediately I thought if a TikTok is made with NII using the visuals of the hostages being reunited with their families, it would be such a touching and viral moment. (Monday 13 October 2025; 16:10)

"It's one of his classics" (111,677) by Geronimo from USA I'm glad she didn't say it so that no one can try to scoop her on it. The journalists understand that, also. (Thursday 2 October 2025; 23:56) this is a reply to message 111,665

"It's one of his classics" (111,665) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia Mariah explained on Watch What Happens Live that she and Michael Jackson had collaborated on a song and Mariah said "it's one of his classics". Why can't Andy asked her back "Which song?" Didn't they learn the art of follow up questions anywhere from their career of hosting or doing interviews. Sigh. (Thursday 2 October 2025; 14:55)

Perfect album (111,567) by Geronimo from USA This is the album we wanted. Now that she's no longer hitting every note every minute because she's got octaves as options, her musical and lyrical choices are confident, crystal clear, and nothing less than inspired multiple times per track. Not only do I love the fact that the music's balance of masculine and feminine energy experiments successfully with a welcomed new mix, there is also something encouraging and authentic about the way that she approaches self-affirmation and spiritual humility in a strikingly coherent and convincing form. This album is the greatest testament to her gift since Butterfly as it shows growth, restraint, economy, wisdom, and vulnerability - without any adult contemporary-sounding ballads that make me wish she never had a start at the top of the billboard pop charts. Her phrasing is super clever and elegant and she knows now when to clear out extraneous layers and overlaps and let a nice melody start and stop logically so you can actually experience the essential beauty of each melodic idea before the next one begins. Bravo. (Sunday 28 September 2025; 01:15)

What's wrong with MC (110,708) by Geronimo from USA I would say that "the point" is and remains producing and distributing the music. Clearly, she has more serious matters to engage beyond that. I pray she is well, but I am nearly certain that she is dealing with more than an attitude problem. (Monday 25 August 2025; 22:08) this is a reply to message 110,688

What's wrong with MC (110,688) by ADAM from USA If she was going to have this sluggish facade and lack of enthusiasm about her new material she should have stayed home. As much as I anticipated new music I feel like if she's not going to be sincere and excited to be here then what's the point? Maybe I should file this under another cash grab to fund her diamonds and yachts this Christina's season. It's becoming her calling card (Sunday 24 August 2025; 14:56)

Sugar Sweet (110,707) by Geronimo from USA I hope they don't scrap Sugar Sweet because it is very easy on the ears and fresh-sounding. (Monday 25 August 2025; 21:59)

Christmas is Mariah's catalogue "gateway" (107,826) by Geronimo from USA I have never been vocal about Mariah's Christmas music because it is not my favorite part of her catalogue. However, neither have I been one of those fans who have worried that her Christmas career somehow reduces her to a novelty artist. Overall, though, I currently find it delightful that her Christmas schtick will likely become for many generations to come a gateway to her very awesome catalogue, which comprises one of the densest sources of quality pop music recordings in that industry's history. (Monday 23 December 2024; 06:47)

Someone's Ugly Daughter (107,521) by Geronimo from USA I cannot wait to hear this album. The opportunity to hear what was really giving her life while she was recording top 40 safe-bets intrigues me - especially the "jokes" she has in store. (Friday 18 October 2024; 03:05)

Sex and drug trafficking is the context for pop culture (106,606) by Geronimo from USA Sex and drug trafficking is the basic context for popular culture from the military-slave economy of the 17th century Atlantic world to the organized crime-dominated New York speakeasy scene of the early days of "jazz" to the days of hair bands and "gangsta" rap. Mariah was swimming in sex trafficking and drugs against her will before Tommy, by choice with Tommy, and she was swimming in vice by choice after Tommy. Meanwhile, ethically serious musicians have always and continue to create better choices and contexts to make a living in music. They have done this, in part, by receiving inherited wealth, by pursuing something more interesting that being a star in a sky erected by moral perverts, and/or by choosing creativity and dignity over being a multi-million dollar slave to colonizers and pimps. The party animal, the pimp and ho routine, and the insecure, boy-crazy, naughty/innocent air-head tropes all need to go and our tastes must evolve. (Friday 7 June 2024; 00:48)

Missy Elliot (104,940) by Geronimo from USA I'm curious: why the comparison? They're on different albums and sound nothing alike. (Monday 15 January 2024; 04:18) this is a reply to message 104,909

Missy Elliot (104,909) by Edward from USA What I like about "Babydoll" is the beat, it hits hard. In my humble opinion, it's a way better song than "Stay the Night" which I always skip. (Friday 12 January 2024; 17:58)

Griot Award (104,239) by Geronimo from USA Congratulations to Mariah for the Griot [sic] Award. It is so refreshing to see her in her element. Jennifer Hudson's tribute was an event to itself as it should be. (Sunday 26 November 2023; 22:05)

Fandom base (103,550) by Geronimo from USA The question about straight male fans is an interesting one. The question is not essentially about what MC fans are doing with their genitalia, but, in part, how MC's "brand significance" to gay/queer consumers impacts her straight male fans who love her today like Tupac loved her in the 90s. There is an impact whether or not anyone thinks there should be an impact. Thus, the conversation elicits interest. (Friday 22 September 2023; 17:36) this is a reply to message 103,539

Fandom base (103,539) by Andrew from the UK What bearing does sexual orientation (or "where people put their penis") and intersectionality have on anything? Why does it matter where the males that like Mariah Carey's music put their penis? I have known gay people that do not like her music. I have known straight people that do. I have never felt the need to discuss Mariah Carey and where they put their penis in any conversation. In the same respect, if you have ever known people who star in musical theatre you will routinely find that round half of them are straight and constantly get targetted and belittled for their work - by people who think it appropriate to discuss their sexuality and the associations. Who should be the least offended in these circumstances? The straight persons for being singled out for liking something "not macho"? Or the gay person for hearing that the preference itself is not macho and therefore assigned only to gay people by third parties? I think both parties have an equal claim to outrage. In regards to this board, I could not care less where the men on it put their penises nor where the women and intersex persons on it do with their own genitalia. To paraphrase a Stonewall slogan: "Most people are straight - get over it." (Tuesday 19 September 2023; 08:02)

Article: Why Mariah Carey matters (103,549) by Geronimo from USA Did the article really need to be summarized with an uninformed reference to M.E. Dyson? No. The winsome article was written clearly enough for literate people in the habit of reading about certain intersections of ethnic and queer identities in the 20th and 21st centuries. (Friday 22 September 2023; 17:25) this is a reply to message 103,545

Article: Why Mariah Carey matters (103,545) by Andrew from the UK What an absolute mess of an article. I thought Michael Dyson was the master of lumping a dozen clever sounding words together to sound intellectual whilst tinting the sentiment with post-modern intersectional politics and dusting with tropes conjured recently in the halls of academia. But this queer takes the win. Let me sum it up: Mariah wrote songs about feeling lonely and ostracised whilst young for having an immutable characteristic. Gay people at that age feel ostracised whilst young for having an immutable charactistic. Ergo: Mariah was important to gay people back then and so is loved by them still. What a pretentious queer. Further, I dare say my above use of the word "queer" above probably made most people here feel a little uncomfortable. But, hey, if the movement is saying it's a so-called reclaimed word and we just have to accept it, then I will call people who use that disgusting word to reference other people (for whom it was a painful pejorative) that exact word. (Thursday 21 September 2023; 02:38)

Emotionally stiff (103,010) by Geronimo from USA I agree with you that some people got a pass while Mariah was being disparaged for formulaic and schmaltzy ballads that came off as emotionally flat. But Mariah was definitely guilty of this especially during the Emotions and Music Box era. Some of that material was very catchy, but very cliché at the same time. Some vocal performances from that time period - especially on recordings - focused on frenetic but impressive vocal gymnastics that appeal to people who prefer Hallmark card sentiments and adult contemporary/romantic comedy kitch. Daydream is when I really started falling in love with Mariah Carey as a creative singer-songwriter. She started making more intelligent musical "choices" as a vocalist then and begin to sound more like a creative person with something other than skill and novelty to offer. In other words, the artist I thought she foreshadow it on her debut album took centerstage by the time Butterfly came out. (Friday 14 July 2023; 01:48) this is a reply to message 102,998

Emotionally stiff (102,998) by Andrew from the UK Celine is an awesome vocalist. You know I love me some Celine, mate. But when she does her soft cooey emotional soft voice, I cringe. Perhaps it is the Britishness in me but it makes me very uncomfortable. And watching her do it on stage doubles the pain with her faux-emotional staring into the distance. Whitney never got this nonsense. But listen to her records and find emotion in them. She bellows everything. Her contributions to The Bodyguard sountrack are obnoxious bellowing. Where was the criticism of Whitney bellowing IWALY? She shouts the whole bloody thing. And Run To You. And I Have Nothing. There's no emotion in these songs at all. Mariah, no cringey over-emoting and no over-shouting. (Wednesday 12 July 2023; 00:28)

Female singers (102,577) by Geronimo from USA The real question is simply, "Did Tommy Mottola make you think you liked Mariah Carey, or did he make sure you had a chance to discover if you liked Mariah Carey during her vocal rather than artistic prime?" If we only describe Mariah's success in terms of record sales, then, yes, Tommy's relationship to her success remains a valid topic for conversation. But if you base your understanding of her success on the long and difficult process of transforming her raw talent and creative drive into a form that true fans have loved to experience for the 35 years, then you have to give credit where credit is due. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 00:32) this is a reply to message 102,575

Female singers (102,575) by Bill from the UK "Marrying Tommy was a massive mistake because it meant she had zero separation between her personal and professional life, a recipe for burnout. And when it became clear that Tommy was sabotaging her during the 1998-2001 period, she had to work that much harder." No one likes to say it, but the other side to this is that marrying Tommy made her lose a lot of credibility. There was a question mark over her success because she was cleverly married to the boss of the record company. If Tommy could quite easily sabotage her career, he could quite easily make her successful. Her most successful years 1993-1997. The years she was Tommy's wife? 1993-1997. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 20:19)

New picture (102,167) by Geronimo from USA Since she is an American woman over 50 years old who also takes medications with well-known complications, the dynamics of her body weight are not interesting from my point of view. (Wednesday 1 February 2023; 22:06) this is a reply to message 102,164

New picture (102,164) by Randy from USA I struggle with weight. I can't imagine what it's like to be in the public eye with paparazzi outside your building. But why does it seem MCs weight goes up and down so much and so quickly. Maybe this is a bad angle. But I swear it reminds me of the parody Debra Wilson and MadTV did with the "I'm Not Insane" where she sings the line as MC, "Although my weight, does fluctuate." Any thoughts on this phenomenon where MC goes from a size 6 to a size 16 in a matter of two months? (Wednesday 1 February 2023; 02:11)

MC's sexiest video (101,966) by Geronimo from USA My All is sexy but I think The Roof is sexier. (Tuesday 27 December 2022; 14:41) this is a reply to message 101,965

MC's sexiest video (101,965) by Bobby A from United States I was thinking about the male model today in My All. His name is Matt King. He is still modeling today. I would have to say that My All is MC's sexiest video that she has ever made. I may be wrong, so what do the Lambs think? (Tuesday 27 December 2022; 13:58)

Why repeat and highlight the painfully obvious? (101,861) by Geronimo from USA We can all see Mariah Carey is not in a good place. I'd greatly appreciate a thoughtful explanation of the intended function of serializing goats' and lambs' riveting forensic takes on the tragic "farce" of it all ad nauseam when no one knows enough to shed light on what is actually happening with Mariah Carey. (Saturday 17 December 2022; 00:29)

Re: Full of grace (101,446) (101,454) by Geronimo from USA I'm not sure if this is quite accurate, Terna. In the first minute of this song I think her anxiety and insecurity shows through her neurotic melodic phrasing. None of the phrases that she sings in the first minute have an intelligent melodic ending that gives her interpretation of the lines any character or definition. There's a lot of unnecessary and noncommittal melisma that she would probably avoid were she's not so anxious. There is a kind of hackneyed parallelism to the last word of each sentence that gets really annoying and you can tell she's making these decisions at the last minute when there's nowhere else to go vocally. This has always bothering me about some of her performances during that period. I think with some of the resonance that she used to have - that smooth, buttery and broad vibrato - having vanished into thin air, she just tatters the end of each sentence with a bunch of unnecessary predictable filagree. I think the transition to "somewhere over the rainbow" is quite unique and I think it works really well. But, I also think she planned it in advance - which, of course, is a good thing. Overall, though, I like the texture and flexibility of her voice in this performance, but her judgment about vocal silence and motion is off and completely makes me anxious while watching this performance. (Saturday 15 October 2022; 03:09) this is a reply to message 101,446

Full of grace (101,446) by Terna from Nigeria This is the Mariah I [fell in love with]. That entrance, the raw 100% live singing, husk, rasppiness and all. Then the confidence on stage, not bothering to look pretty nor have good angles for the lighting (notice her exit after that beautiful applause was on her "bad side", no insecurity there). Where did this Mariah Carey go to? Today she really isn't this girl singing here anymore. That line she sings on Candy Bling though, "I'm the same Mimi, fame ain't changed me". Yeah [right] Mariah. Still got love for her though, that will never change. (Thursday 13 October 2022; 20:34)

Re: Just a thought, let's be kind (101,400) (101,405) by Geronimo from USA What a great post. Thank you for this. It is quite mystifying that people over the age of nine need to hear such a simple, common sense message - especially the delusional "no, we just want Mariah to be her best self" crowd who think we don't know the difference between encouragement, nostalgia, and abuse. I agree with you 100%. Let's all do unto Mariah Carey according to what we would want our own supporters to do us - especially on public message-boards. (Wednesday 5 October 2022; 13:15)

Re: Nicki Minaj thanked Mariah (101,091) (101,094) by Geronimo from USA I don't think your messages sounds negative at all. You're just having a conversation. You do sound a little paranoid to me framing your comments in this way, though. But anyway, I would love to know how you thought that beef was Maria's fault. I don't recall getting much information one way or the other. (Monday 29 August 2022; 19:36)

Re: If it was Whitney? (101,070) (101,082) by Geronimo from USA You expressed my sentiments exactly except on one point - what exactly is it that you're calling experimental R&B? I love R&B and I would love to hear Mariah Carey experiment. I don't feel like I've heard the latter from her. (Monday 29 August 2022; 03:29)

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