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About Terna from Nigeria:
Fan since 1998 - The "Butterfly" Era. However my Fave Era ever? will always be - The Emancipation of Mimi, if you're a true Lamb, you know.
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Hibernation (112,902)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Back into hibernation? Haha. It's too early to take the tree down though.
(Sunday 4 January 2026; 13:53)
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Divas Live 1998 (112,885)
by Terna from Nigeria
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There is a tendency for female singers to try and outdo or outsing each other once they're sharing a stage. Mariah is well aware of this fact and wanted no parts of any such setup. It always ends up as a screaming match and then the song gets butchered. Check the Aretha Franklin tribute by Yolanda, Martina, Christina etc. I'm glad Mariah, even though Aretha approached her to lift, did not engage. That was wisdom because you don't control what the other singers are going to do and then suddenly it's a screaming match, nothing musical, then the train gets derailed and all the divas fall off. Haha.
(Saturday 3 January 2026; 00:00)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,823)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Speaking of MHWGO, there was a picture of a document running round on the internet a few years ago (2017), about the writers of the song - coincidentally the same co-writers as Faith Hill's "Where are you Christmas". The source of this document claimed they had recently started working in publishing and had access to the original documentation for publishing and there were three names listed for "My Heart Will Go On". "James Horner", "Will Jennings" and the third name? "M. Carey". This claim had a snapshot of the document (type written) as proof. However, that image disappeared mysteriously shortly after as well as the thread and retweets on it. Smh. Rumour also had it that James Cameron does not like Mariah Carey and insisted she was not going to be the one to sing the song, or it was never going to make the movie, specifically choosing Céline Dion. So many versions of events surrounding that time, makes one wonder, did Mariah write Céline's biggest hit? Because let's be honest, that song has certain "Mariahesque" qualities about it, it is very similar in movement, time signature and tempo to "When I Saw You", "Last Chance", "Where are you Christmas" - a lullaby kinda approach to writing she still uses even up to TEOM's "Joy Ride" and "Supernatural" from MIAM. My younger sister always said in reference to MHWGO, "This song sounds like a Mariah Carey song, it has her written all over it." Lol.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 22:44)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,810)
by BFF from United States
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Do you think Mariah would have recorded "My Heart Will Go On" if it had been offered to her? She seemed pretty firm on not recording original songs written by other people at that point in her career. The song was also more in line with the adult contemporary image she was attempting to leave behind at that point in her career. She relaxed that rule about recording other people's songs when she did "When You Believe" with Whitney, but it seemed like Mariah was pretty steadfast on it up until "Almost Home". I'm actually a bit confused by "Almost Home" because Mariah says she did not write, but she was given a writing credit. Perhaps it was brought to her and then she asked for changes before agreeing to record it?
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 13:58)
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Olympics - Nothing is Impossible (112,792)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I sure do hope this song is not the song for the Olympics, and not even her next single. Its lyrics are too personal and very specific to that dark time in her career (Glitter), there isn't anything uplifting about NII, sorry to state the obvious. It is a revisit to a very dark time in Mariah's career and life. Mariah is a songwriter who can easily come up with a song much more in vein, vibe, melody and lyrical content suitable for the Olympics - an uplifting, healing song and moment for this time. God knows the world needs healing right now. And said song is not (all caps) "Nothing is Impossible". Haven't we already been hinted at such a song in the past? I recall "Reach for the sky" being said, was for an Olympic type event. Well, now might just be the time.
(Monday 29 December 2025; 13:35)
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Would you rather? (112,623)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Taylor checks all the boxes for an ideal pop star, makes catchy, hook heavy pop music that's very easy to sing along to and for her to sing live, has an ok voice, that's just right and has a formula that works and sticks to it. She also has a very good and efficient team backing her up. But it's her material that's the charm actually. In the words of Diana Ross from the movie she did with Brandy (Double Platinum) her character said, "You could be the most talented singer in the world but if you're singing the wrong songs, you're not going anywhere. Aretha Franklin suffered this early on in her career - great voice, wrong material." I guess Taylor knows this. Mariah Carey knows this secret too also being a songwriter (and she's got an ear for music too don't forget). Her pen game, musicianship (Mariah knows music) and diversity in different genres, over time has led to a solid discography that speaks for itself. Prince is another artist that comes to mind.
(Sunday 7 December 2025; 23:26)
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Would you rather? (112,606)
by TJ from Norway
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I really don't understand why TS is so popular. It's like people are under a spell.
(Saturday 6 December 2025; 09:45)
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Muni Long (112,535)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I knew the minute I heard Mariah's commentary, it rubbed her some kinda way, and there would be some kind of low blow retaliation so to speak, talk about throwing stones and hiding hands. Smh. She needs to simmer down and humble herself. This was done in a ghetto, hood rat, distasteful way and the satire crossed the line and became just pure disrespect quickly. I found it cringeworthy. Oh well, she better ask Katy Perry. Lol.
(Thursday 27 November 2025; 19:59)
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Summer Walker (112,455)
by Terna from Nigeria
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To hear Mariah in the background was a highlight for me, that song is timeless, and one of her most nostalgic tracks for me. I love that it's getting the recognition it deserves and Mariah, her flowers. It's a big honor when the younger generation sample your music. It keeps it alive reintroduced to a whole new generation.
(Thursday 20 November 2025; 19:31)
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Summer Walker (112,408)
by Bobby A from United States
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Summer Walker samples ABMB on her song Baby with Chris Brown. It is so good. The Atlanta sound shines on this one.
(Saturday 15 November 2025; 23:16)
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3 albums (112,211)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Easy "Mariah Carey", "Butterfly" and "The Emancipation Of Mimi". These three album are the main anchors in her discography, each detailing very important eras in her journey - Her introduction, growth and freedom, then legend status when she finally gained the respect from the industry. A worthy mention is "Daydream" which is so very important in her journey too, I didn't pick it as it is actually the true beginning of her growth as an artist that culminates with "Butterfly" so these two albums are intertwined to me although very different and honestly her true core and identity as an artist.
(Sunday 2 November 2025; 15:54)
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3 albums (112,155)
by TJ from Norway
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Let's say that for some reason everyone on earth forgot all of MCs albums except 3 of them. Which 3 albums from her catalogue would you keep for everyone to enjoy? And why?
(Friday 31 October 2025; 06:40)
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It's time... (112,205)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Lol. I noticed that, at this rate it's become a whole tradition, with its budget and production is getting bigger. Mariah is needed to declare the Christmas season open and official. And they say she isn't the queen of Christmas? Hehe.
(Saturday 1 November 2025; 22:08)
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It's time... (112,193)
by Lighty from China
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This year's It's Time video. It surely looks big budget.
(Saturday 1 November 2025; 05:03)
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Lamb emergency (111,628)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Thanks for the link, smooth performance actually and she sounds much better than on the record. When she improvised and sang higher on the second chorus, I was pleasantly surprised, smooth clean sound. Whatever she's doing for her voice, it's working.
(Tuesday 30 September 2025; 19:41)
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Lamb emergency (111,608)
by Tevin from USA
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Everyone this is not a drill, I repeat this is not a drill. Mariah is singing live again and sounding amazing. Here's the link to her Fallon performance tonight. She sounds great.
(Tuesday 30 September 2025; 07:05)
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Lamb creativity (111,555)
by Terna from Nigeria
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The new lambies are in overdrive on Instagram with this. What's your favorite?
(Saturday 27 September 2025; 15:16)
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Here For It All (review) (111,523)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Oh wow, I felt the exact same way about "Confetti and Champagne" - especially when the chorus hits, that sound from the early 90's that was so very brief and then it changed so quick, is captured on this song. When I was listening to it, I suddenly thought of Aaliyah for some strange, strange reason.
(Friday 26 September 2025; 19:30)
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Here For It All (review) (111,514)
by BFF from United States
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Out of all the albums in her catalogue, "Here For It All" reminds me most of the "Emotions" album, which is my second favorite after "Butterfly".
The vocals are, of course, not at the same level, but the up-tempos like "Play This Song" have the same relaxed/fun vibe of "Emotions" and ballads like "Nothing is Impossible" and "Here for It All" hit me the same way as "Can't Let Go", "And You Don't Remember", and "Til The End of Time". "Jesus I Do" gives me a little bit of upbeat "Make it Happen" type energy. Even though "I Won't Allow It" and "Champagne and Confetti" are sonically different, they give me the kiss off vibes of "If It's Over" and "You're So Cold".
This album is truly a resurgence of classic Mariah with a great new twist. Bravo, Ms. Carey.
(Friday 26 September 2025; 16:19)
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Here For It all - first listen (111,487)
by Terna from Nigeria
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It's a very solid album, with no fillers honestly, but with all her records, I gravitate towards some songs more than others and form opinions and sentiments of course. So far I have played the record through only once but specific songs on repeat, these are the ones that connected for me, more than the others. 1. Confetti and Champagne (I llove it and it's already on repeat.) 2.Mi ("Bragging rights riah" haha, that's right own that sh*t and that beat is wicked.) 3. "Nothing is impossible" (Mariah Carey's testimony, and I will never take it for granted.) 4. "Play this song" (A chuck full of that 70's sound. You can tell they were inspired by that it.) 5. "In your feelings" (Even from the clip posted, I liked it and love it now that I heard it in its entirety.) Vocals are as best as she's capable of currently, that metallic edge has taken over most of her voice and constricts her upper register access. This is an R&B/Soul record with a strong leaning to the 70's era sound. I love it.
(Friday 26 September 2025; 07:31)
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Gamma (111,398)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Wow, like do you guys notice Mariah is everywhere and really doing the promo run with so many upcoming appearances and performances already. I guess rightfully so, as this is the week of the album release. I'm loving it. She's already done and is slated to do more than she did for both "Chanteuse" and "Caution". I'm really loving this for her and especially her new lambs. They get to experience a new era in real-time. I do hope the album gives what it's meant to and does better than expected.
(Tuesday 23 September 2025; 00:14)
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Jermaine (111,364)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Yes I heard that story too, basically whispered the whole song and he was not having any of it. So this must be the part two of that story on the song's recording and how there wasn't any sustain. There was also a Kanye story about "Stay the night" and how they didn't realize it was such a high key that required all that belting, until it was time to record the vocals and that's when she realized. Subsequent attempts at lowering the key kept ruining the song's layout and order in the DAW (digital work station), So she had to leave it like that and be forced to record it that way. Haha. On a serious note though, Mariah needs to understand that her belt is her sound, that echo, it's her power and its healing. I look forward to this album, but I don't want to be disappointed and as a result I'm not hyper, because I don't hear it, that is the Mariah Carey sound that I am used to and can't get enough of and it's been missing for a while now. It was not on "Caution".
(Sunday 21 September 2025; 13:17)
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Jermaine (111,357)
by Stacey from USA
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I remember reading or hearing JD in an interview thst MC wanted to sing WBT whisper style and JD said heck no. Can you imagine WBT sung whisper with no ending note?
(Sunday 21 September 2025; 04:43)
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Jermaine (111,342)
by Terna from Nigeria
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This is why I need Mariah to not always have her way, and have people that tell her as it is and I'm glad Jermaine is one of those few people. That's a true friend. Just imagine that song without the sustain. The song will not have been a monster hit the way it was, without a doubt. Six days to the new album guys. Fingers crossed.
(Saturday 20 September 2025; 19:10)
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Congratulations Mariah (111,011)
by Terna from Nigeria
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What a double win, your first Mooman [sic] win ever and Vanguard Award all in the same night. We did it guys. I guess the HFIA era has officially begun and is already a winner. Love as always.
(Monday 8 September 2025; 08:40)
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Favorite ballads list while we wait (110,899)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Honestly, my favorite ballads by Mariah change all the time, just like the seasons and whatever I'm going through in life in general. I find her music very therapeutic across all her very distinct eras. Currently I have been playing some much more than others that I used to play before, but certain ones have never really left my playlist at all, ever since they were released. In no particular order here's mine: 1. The Art of Letting go. 2. Vision of Love. 3. Mine Again. 4. Through the Rain. 5. Fly like a Bird. 6. One Sweet Day (Mariah only version). 7. Never too far. 8. Joy Ride. 9. Heavenly (No ways tired/Can't give up now) 10. Anytime you need a Friend. 11. Butterfly. 12. When You Believe duet With Whitney Houston. 13. Faded. 14. Underneath the Stars (live from Tokyo Japan '96) 15. My All.
(Tuesday 2 September 2025; 22:15)
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Favorite ballads list while we wait (110,834)
by Bobby A from United States
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I have 15 ballads on a SD card that I will listen to every day until Here For It All is released. Here is my list is:
1. I Don't Wanna Cry 2. Can't Let Go 3. Never Forget You 4. When I Saw 5. My All 6. Against All Odds 7. Never Too Far 8. Through The Rain 9. We Belong Together 10. Love Story 11. Inseparable 12. Camouflage 13. Portrait 14. There Goes My Heart Again 15. I Wish You Well
(Sunday 31 August 2025; 02:04)
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Superbowl Mariah (110,888)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I know for a fact she can absolutely crush a superbowl performance. This is a woman that has hits for days (every single soul remembers and would love to sing along to), that can make a playlist hours of non stop bops, without repeating a song twice and she doesn't even need to sing the whole songs. And then there's the features with several artists that I know for a fact would honor her invitation. Don't underestimate her now? The Superbowl performance is for like maybe 15 minutes maximum, and Mariah has more than enough hits both past and present to cover that. Think of it for a second, all her massive hits and then suddenly, she announces "I just gotta bring Christmas back one more time". Haha. And then AIWFCIY closes with an absolutely explosive fest of cheer and confetti.
(Monday 1 September 2025; 23:44)
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Here For It All (110,830)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I read somewhere today on twitter where someone was like a record executive he's close with has heard the entire album and described it as a hybrid of "Glitter, Charmbracelet and Caution".
(Saturday 30 August 2025; 22:09)
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#Beautiful video (110,784)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Sorry, I beg to differ. #Beautiful video is perfect the way it is. It's not even that kinda song that requires a "story to be told", not every song is like that, nor requires a "deep" video. It's all about variety and matching the visuals with the vibe a lyrndics of the song. Now "Always be my baby" had a little story in there, but honestly I always thought it matched "Underneath the stars" lyrically.
(Thursday 28 August 2025; 20:24)
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#Beautiful video (110,744)
by jaker20 from US
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The video is bad and is low budget. They didn't even go in a proper location. It is the first Mariah lead single video that has no story and concept. All her lead single videos, apart from Loverboy, have some kind of story or good concept since Honey: Honey Heartbreaker Through the Rain It's Like That / WBT TMB Obsessed
(Wednesday 27 August 2025; 20:43)
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Video Vanguard (110,645)
by Terna from Nigeria
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So suddenly, after shunning her videos all these years - 35 years to be exact, they finally wanna give Mariah a moon man? Yeah right. Next?
(Saturday 23 August 2025; 00:29)
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It’s tiiiime... to let the children know (110,644)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I watched this analysis a while back too and I agree with most of his points of view, especially when he pointed out that Mariah's voice was at its most powerful and free at the "Music Box" era. That was spot on, her voice was front and center with such a wow factor to it, concerts from that era and vocals she did on the records through to early '94 were just jaw dropping, at what a voice was capable of. However, I also think that this was the period where she damaged her instrument. That tour from 1993 created problems that manifested in her modal voice and her ability to sing comfortably inside her range and transition smoothly. I think Oleta Adams or was it Gladys Knight? When interviewed once and asked about Mariah, advised that she sings way too much outside her range, singing with a constant lift since her voice wasn't a textbook soprano voice (this is true) so to speak and she might suffer damage down the line, if she didn't limit the use of her ability to sing so high (This was even before The Emancipation Of Mimi. I wonder what she thinks of that one. Haha.)
(Saturday 23 August 2025; 00:24)
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It’s tiiiime... to let the children know (110,598)
by Bobby A from United States
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This video explains thoroughly everything about MC's voice changes through out years. All of our points are validated in the video in some shape, form or fashion. MC has really been through a lot during her career.
(Wednesday 20 August 2025; 10:45)
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Here For It All snippet (110,568)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Glad I could be of help, and yeah I agree Mariah songs are recognizable mainly from the chord progressions, melodies and her choice of harmonies even when she's not the one singing.
(Monday 18 August 2025; 16:49)
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Here For It All snippet (110,539)
by Bobby A from United States
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Thank you so much, Terna. I never would have thought chord progressions as being so complicated. I guess this is the reason why MC almost always has a humming part at the beginning of her songs like Always Be My Baby. I understand better now. Anyone can always say that a song is a Mariah Carey song because of her recognizable chord progressions. Plus, this is the reason why MC collaborated so well with piano composers like Ben Margulies, Walter A., Loris Holland, Big Jim Wright, and Marc Shaiman.
(Sunday 17 August 2025; 11:32)
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Here For It All snippet (110,531)
by Terna from Nigeria
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To explain and actually make sense at a basic level I'll have to define some terms I'm going to be using to describe those phrases the AI came up with. 1. Chord - two or more notes played at the same time. 2. Progression - the act of moving from one chord to another rhythmically and in a certain pattern, repeatedly throughout a song or music piece. 3. Time signature - the number of beats per measure that influences the rhythmic movement of the song or music piece. 4. Tonic - root of a key or scale (the first note also known as the "doh") 5. "Key" and "scale" refer to the same thing and might be intertwined, but not really the same. "Scale" is a string of notes contained in a key of a song and its mode whether major or minor. "Key" is usually the name or tag for the set of notes a particular piece of music is written in. 6. Relative major and relative minor: every major key has a relative minor key and vice versa. This means that the same set of notes that make up the major scale also make up its relative minor scale too, but their starting points (tonics) are different. For instance C Major and A Minor are relative of each other they all contain only white keys, no black keys. 7. Accidentals - the black keys on the piano that indicate sharps or flats.
From the clip we heard of "Here for It All" it seems to be a piano ballad, maybe a beat drops later on in the song, but so far the chord progressions (the piano's music movements) are in a traditional 4/4 time signature "1,2,3 4, 1,2,3,4" ("Mine Again", "The Art of Letting Go") rhythmically, but patterned differently. Paying close attention to the chords, there seems to be a borrowed chord in there, but I really cannot tell until I hear the whole song. A borrowed chord from a parallel key, means lifting a chord from this parallel scale (major or minor) to incorporate into a music piece in a related key, usually to create dissonance that isn't too jarring. This action is the "modal mixture" and that borrowed chord would not really fit in with the ones played before or after it depending on where it is placed, but will still be in tune because, it is a chord that shares notes with the original key except for one, two or three accidentals ("Vision of Love" comes to mind). For instance C Major's relative minor is A minor, but its parallel minor is C Minor because they share the same tonic (A minor doesn't start on note C but on note A) but C minor has 3 flats in it. Contemporary musicians and song writers use this trick to create intrigue or unpredictability to get the listener engaged, amongst a host of other emotions and not have their songs predictable, redundant or boring. As more and more songs keep getting written and released, it gets harder to standout or sound different. Here's a good example of a borrowed chord in the live skit she did on Jimmy Fallon from 2014. at the 2:44 minute mark when she starts singing "The Art of Letting Go", the line "I no longer live in your dominion", the word "Live" coincides with a disjointed or different chord whose introduction changed the feel, and lets the listener sense her demeanor to know there's an element of solemnness/seriousness to the song and it's going to be a song that touches on a serious topic. Hope this helped and was not too convoluted and technical. Haha. Music theory.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 23:55)
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Here For It All snippet (110,526)
by Bobby A from United States
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Terna, can you help me understand chord progression? You said Here For It All is very Mariahesque in melody and chord progression. AI said MC's chord progressions have a modal mixture departing from the core chords of the song's key to borrow chords from parallel mode. What does all of that mean? Can you give me one MC ballad from each her albums that has a similar chord progression to help me understand? I listened to the snippet with headphones and it is not bad at all. It reminds of MC's vocals on Heavenly (Can't Give Up Now). I think multiple radio formats would play Here For It All because it's a piano ballad similar in the vein of Adele's Easy On Me.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 04:13)
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