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Re: MC appears to levitate off invisible chair (93,721) (93,723)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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I don't do stairs, I don't do chairs I didn't [censored] Packer, I don't do bears I will not eat green eggs and ham But I do like lamb, Mariah I am
(I may be losing it)
(Tuesday 21 April 2020; 16:12)
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Re: Emotions album (93,720) - TTEOT (93,722)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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You just reminded me of this version of Till The End Of Time and we are exactly 1 month away from the 3 year anniversary. I suppose it's good to have timeless songs like this which remind us of the far-too-fast passage of it. I do, though, now, find the song a bit difficult to listen to. He'd be 32 years old now, Martyn. You rest in peace, lad.
(Tuesday 21 April 2020; 16:07)
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MC appears to levitate off invisible chair (93,721)
by tadatorao from japan
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She doesn't do stairs. She doesn't do chairs.
(Tuesday 21 April 2020; 14:13)
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Re: Emotions album (93,701) (93,720)
by Licia from USA
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Bill I freaking love TTEOT. It has one of my favorite bridges. So you don't have to cyber fight me. That's one of the 3 Mariah songs I actually like. Lol.
The Wind is another story though. That's the only song on Emotions I've listened to once and never again. I can't listen to it.
(Tuesday 21 April 2020; 05:30)
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Y'all gotta hear this (93,719)
by Edouard from France
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I rediscovered this song today. I love, love, love the original. the production still sounds so cool but this version is awesome and allows us to hear Mariah's vocals in a more prominent way. Enjoy.
PS Is it me or are there addlibs not featured on the original bridge?
(Monday 20 April 2020; 23:37)
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Re: Listening to Glitter (93,716) (93,718)
by Bill from the UK
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The Loverboy video is one of my faves. I love the bright colours and the cars and the flags. All against the backdrop of that sapphire blue sky. It looks amazing. Each shot is a postcard.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 22:32)
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Re: Emotions album (93,715) (93,717)
by Bill from the UK
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Hmmm. I suppose the C&C tracks haven't aged that well, as they were a victim of their early 90s production standards. The ballads however I think have never sounded so organic and spacious. They really open up and let Mariah's voice be front and centre, and create a wonderful atmospheric mood. Music Box is much more finely tuned, perhaps a bit too much. But we love all the albums.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 17:41)
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Listening to Glitter (93,716)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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Lately I have found myself listening a lot to Glitter, I actually love Loverboy. But I think Mariah's image was the reason the project tanked. I think Mariah thought that being sexy is what sells in the music buisness.
During the Butterfly era Mariah was classy sexy, and I really love how she looked, dark hair, dark sexy clothes, smoked eyes, she was genuine but sexy.
But something went wrong during the Rainbow era, Mariah seemed to just wanting show her boobs and legs, and music came second. She was cheesy sexy, her reputation went to the dogs.
And then Glitter came along, and now she only wanted to be a porn star, or that what it seems. I think the public was so fed up with Mariah's boobs, they didn't want anyting to do with Glitter or Loverboy.
Just look at the transformation, the lead singles from Daydream, Butterfly, Rainbow and Glitter. No wonder she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder during the the Glitter release, and I can say that being bipolar myself. I think Mariah went utterly crazy during the production of Glitter and Loverboy, and thought that an overly sexy/trashy look was all it took to sell Loverboy.
I'm so glad The Emancipation of Mimi again showed how classy Mariah can be. She became an A-lister again, and she never lost her status, she will for ever be music prominence.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 17:08)
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Re: Emotions album (93,708) (93,715)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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I think I wrote that because you didn't include it in the list. Yesterday I listened to Emotions (album) whilst running, start to finish. And I have to say it is so much better than I remember it. Some of the melodies are incredible, e.g. "Precious love burning so deeply" is really quite moving. I just think it's possibly the production that puts people off. It's very "tinny" for want of a better word. Music Box is a lot more "wholesome". Again, for want of a better word.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 14:18)
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Re: Bfly (Classic Bossa Nova) Fm-enhanced (93,709) (93,714)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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I did listen to the a capella Butterfly last night and I don't think I was too hard on Butterfly. It's very, very slow, but has a terrific melody. I actually really love listening to Mariah's stripped a capellas, sometimes more than the actual songs. I think the production on Outside has started to sound a little bit dated. The vocal only version is amazing and actually makes me appreciate the song more. The gravel in her voice when she sings "try and try to tell yourself" during the climax actually chokes me up every time I hear it. Sometimes it's good to remove the instrumentation and just listen to the vocal so you can fully appreciate what she achieved in the studio. It is possibly the cure for that there ear cancer Jeremimi is causing.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 14:09)
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Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,711) (93,713)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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You can only really "bully" someone who is vulnerable and I see no reason to consider you as such, save perhaps for your historically evident lack of intellect. Your attempt (yet again) to paint yourself as a victim is as boring as it overused.
Hypothesising what would have happened in Mariah's career had she and Tommy split is interesting. You should know - you did it. You declared with absolute certainty that Butterfly would not have been recorded, right before you said the exercise was "redundant and tiresome". Ergo, "I have the answer and nobody else should even challenge it." What a "bully". Shockingly unclever.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 13:59)
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Interesting article (93,712)
by Tijl from Belgium
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This showed up on Buzzfeed. Thought I might just as well share it with you guys.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 12:50)
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Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,706) (93,711)
by Tijl from Belgium
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"However, I also don't think it necessary for people to keep attacking you. You're obviously not a mean person, even if sounding a bit spiteful, here. I think perhaps the lockdown is getting to everyone. (Yea, Andrew from the UK is calling you mean-spirited: your blood must be boiling right now.)"
As a matter of fact, the only person attacking me is you Andrew. And you seem to enjoy it as well. You are a bully which can be excused from a little child but coming from an adult it is considered toxic behaviour.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 12:43)
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Re: Emotions album (93,703) (93,710)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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I feel like fans don't deliberately avoid it. It's just overlooked. It still is her bestselling album, so chances are it is one of the few albums that her casual fans and the average music lover may have of her (the others being Daydream, the debut album and maybe TEOM). Despite its success, maybe Music Box had the misfortune of being followed by her holiday album, Daydream and Butterfly - three much beloved albums that are widely considered superior to it, and that may have overshadowed it. Which is interesting since Music Box is home to a few of her biggest international hits and signature tracks. But then again, in a sort of similar fashion, Madonna's True Blue is her bestselling studio album and contains some of her most indelible hits, yet isn't held in the same esteem as Like A Prayer, her first compilation album or Erotica.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 06:34)
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Re: Bfly (Classic Bossa Nova) Fm-enhanced (93,707) (93,709)
by Lafa from Sweden
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Maybe it's too slow Andrew. I like the Classic Bossa Nova-version more than the album version. There's an acapella on YouTube of the main singing-line in Butterfly and I thought it would appear more remixes than it has.
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 15:42)
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Re: Emotions album (93,703) (93,708)
by Bill from the UK
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What makes you think I avoid Music Box? I love that album, and always will. Like many, it was my introduction to Mariah, and me purchasing that album on cassette in 1994 would change my life forevermore.
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 13:46)
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Re: Bfly (Classic Bossa Nova) Fm-enhanced (93,705) (93,707)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Err, I always thought Butterfly underperformed because it was *too* slow. By the end of the second chorus you feel like you've invested a good part of your lifespan to the song. You could read the first half of War And Peace between the first chorus and the second verse. I just listened to Butterfly again and I am certain I had a grey hair at the end of it that was not there at the beginning.
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 13:18)
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Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,698) (93,706)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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You can cry about people trying to shut other people's opinions down all you like. But that is exactly what you, yourself, did. The poster posed an interesting hypothetical: just as we look back in our own lives to important junctures and wonder "what if...?" so too did the poster wonder, having correctly identified that Tommy and Mariah separating created a specific divergent path in Mariah's life, what would have happened to Mariah's career and probably Mariah herself had they worked things out. It is an interesting and fun game. Seemingly predicting Mariah would be criticised, you attempted to shut it down by ridiculing anyone who took part. And now you claim victimhood? I would have had respect for your position if you'd stuck to it with dignity. But you cannot claim to be a victim of other people shutting you down. The irony is immense and you sound ridiculous yourself.
However, I also don't think it necessary for people to keep attacking you. You're obviously not a mean person, even if sounding a bit spiteful, here. I think perhaps the lockdown is getting to everyone. (Yea, Andrew from the UK is calling you mean-spirited: your blood must be boiling right now.)
On that subject I would have thought on a lockdown people would have more time on their hands and post more here. They are not, so if more people actually do post let's try not to shut them down so it is a bit more welcoming. I understand the irony here also as I am normally first to tell people they are idiots. But even if the lockdowns are not actually getting rid of the virus or making much better in the real world, we can at least re-evaluate how we think about life and try to be a bit more positive.
If Brandon and I can be nice to each other, and I don't call him a delusional idiot in need of serious counselling, then there's hope for everyone, right?
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 13:06)
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Bfly (Classic Bossa Nova) Fm-enhanced (93,705)
by Lafa from Sweden
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Hey, I slowed down the tempo of Butterfly (Classic Bossa Nova), about the album tempo, and FM-enhanced it. Probably the most beautiful song ever, in my opinion.
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 11:44)
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Re: Emotions album (93,701) (93,704)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Sorry, Bill, but count me in with Licia on that. I'm just a different type of listener where the following factors affect how I feel about music in descending order:
Melody (always the first thing that catches my attention) Production/instrumentation Vocal performance Lyrics/theme The artist (how I feel about them and their material)
However, just like most of us, if I like an artist's work, then I am predisposed to automatically like what they put out. Not always a sure thing, though.
All of my favorite artists have one thing in common - majority of their work meet all of the items in the above criteria.
By your selection of top 3 albums, you seem to be the type of listener who likely values vocal performance first before anything else most of the time.
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 10:07)
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Re: Emotions album (93,701) (93,703)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Will, does it not feel like most fans avoid Music Box, as you seemingly do? It is her CoBoWo of the 90s. It is the album that everyone bought because everyone wanted diva vocals at that time. It made Mariah internationally. Why do fans hate it?
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 02:12)
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Re: Emotions album (93,700) (93,702)
by Victoria from USA
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I used to have the Emotions poster. I also had the Love Takes Time subway poster. I have no idea where the posters cardboard tube ended up
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 01:52)
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Re: Emotions album (93,700) (93,701)
by Bill from the UK
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Emotions is so underrated. My favourite after Unplugged and Merry Christmas. Her vocals are astonishing and it houses the best ballads. So moving and atmospheric, especially the closers Till the End of Time and The Wind. I've never encountered a fan who doesn't love TTEOT.
(Looks at Licia.)
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 22:43)
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Emotions album (93,700)
by Lafa from Sweden
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Emotions is my favorite album. It breathes class and soul. Her voice is unparallelled by any singer. Maybe Rachelle Ferrell has something similiar, but she doesn't use her voice the right way, neither even tries. But the opening track is horrible. 80's music that should be in the trash can. And she doesn't really make it vocally, sounds forced. The Daydream tour performance is a good choice though. Nothing beats this album. Does anyone know if there's a poster of the cover art to buy somewhere? A really large poster.
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 22:01)
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All I Want For Christmas Is Tokyo Dome 2020 (93,699)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Mariah should play the Tokyo Dome again. It would be the greatest celebration of her 30 year anniversary to repeat the record she made in 1996. So, as Mariah's manager-in-waiting, I propose the following: the All I Want For Christmas Is You Tour 2020 should be at Tokyo Dome for 3 nights in December. That's 150,000 bums on seats she needs, but it's Japan - I think she could pull it off. They would drink her sweat if she bottled it. Sweat, sweat fantasy, baby.
Of course, Mariah should then fly to Europe to perform the fourth and final show at the 02 Arena in London. Because it's the best arena in the world in the best city in the world. And the best fan in the world just happens to live right by it.
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 21:12)
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