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Re: Tommy the racist (99,756) (99,758) by Bill from the UK No, I wouldn't say he was racist at all. I mean he married her knowing she was mixed. I see it more that he was a good businessman who knew what played to the biggest demographics and was protecting his investment. Music Box sold twice or three times as many copies as Butterfly, and he wanted for bang for his buck. If you pardon the pun. (Tuesday 22 February 2022; 18:21)

Re: Tommy the racist (99,756) (99,757) by Dennis from Miami, FL Being married to Mariah, an interracial person herself, I don't see Tommy as a racist. He has converted to Judaism, then to Catholic faith in his lifetime. I see him as rather a manipulator. He wanted Mariah to appeal to widest demographic possible at that time. That implied she could not be anything specific (black, white, latina, etc), she had to be an all American girl. Same about him saying that Puffy in few years would shine his shoes. He used an inappropriate metaphor without even realising that. I doubt he was saying that because of the race. Rather he said that because of his obsession with mob culture. For me Tommy is an opportunist, obsessed with power, control and money. I am sure, though I don't have the stats, that Mariah's albums were giving more financial return than let's say Celine's or MJ albums because Mariah didn't work with people like David Foster or Max Martin. Most of here music was produced in-house, her music videos from that era are cute but rather low budget, all of her CDs design eas basic - 1 or 2 photos, fold in leaflet, mediocre paper quality. Janet's, Madonna's CD designs from the same era are superior. I'm sure, she was getting a tiny fraction of what she was earning in 1990-1999. (Tuesday 22 February 2022; 18:09)

Tommy the racist (99,756) by T from USA I know we've heard the story meant [sic] times how controlled Mariah was by Sony and Tommy. And even heard his racist tendencies. Especially the story in her book about him lashing out when she wanted to work with Puffy during the Daydream era. But can I ask if any of that is really true? Or is it just a narrative Mariah wants us to believe? One only needs to look back years before the Puffy incident at the Dreamlover music video. For being under strict control by a person who didn't want her being associated with blackness in any way shape or form, she sure had a lot (only) of male black (shirtless) dancers in the video. How did that go through the control room? I don't doubt that she may have felt he was racist. But he's the same guy who discovered and made careers of many black artists. He may have lead her to be "more white" at the beginning so that she would sell more. But she was a 20 year old women and knew what the game was. She went along with it. I'm not buying that he was this total racist who was controlling to the point of no end. I mean two of his three marriages were with multiracial women. (Tuesday 22 February 2022; 14:48)

Re: Perfume (99,752) (99,755) by Bobby A from United States MC has never taken this long to release an album. It has been 26 months now. (Tuesday 22 February 2022; 13:01)

Re: Sweetheart (99,729) (99,754) by enwar00 from usa Interesting. (Tuesday 22 February 2022; 12:10)

Re: Perfume (99,732) (99,753) by enwar00 from usa My favorite Mariah perfume is Electric Youth. (Tuesday 22 February 2022; 12:03)

Re: Perfume (99,749) (99,752) by Edward from USA Says who? Is the cancel culture coming to the messageboard too? As far as I know, the movie is on streaming services and nobody is complaining about it. We're going to get to a point where people won't be able to joke about anything anymore because somebody's feelings might be getting hurt. Joan Rivers, we really need you! Mariah hurry up! We desperately need some music or something, the board is going crazy here. (Tuesday 22 February 2022; 04:04)

Re: Perfume (99,750) (99,751) by Edward from USA It has aged very well, I can't say the same about Mariah's perfumes. But oh well. To each his cologne. The original perfume comment was said as a light joke, but I guess we've all gotten hypersensitive lately. I can't wait for anything from Mariah, even a fart. Mariah, hurry up, we're drowning here. (Tuesday 22 February 2022; 03:56)

Re: Perfume (99,749) (99,750) by Matty from Vancouver Canada The reference is obvious, but it's also 18 years old and hasn't aged well. (Tuesday 22 February 2022; 01:16)

Re: Perfume (99,748) (99,749) by Jamie from UK I understood the reference alright thanks. But it's not acceptable to say anymore. (Tuesday 22 February 2022; 00:07)

Re: Perfume (99,744) (99,748) by Edward from USA If you didn't understand the reference, you have outgayed yourself. On Wednesday we wear pink, even though we're not in the 90's when gay men started wearing Mariah's perfumes. I guess we're all living in the past. (Monday 21 February 2022; 17:49)

Re: Perfume (99,745) (99,747) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I love Tom Fords as well! Except for the peach too, hahaha, peach never translates well, even as juice. My absolute favourite fragrance right now is Louis Vuitton Nuit de Feu. It's got a Tom Ford essence to it! (Monday 21 February 2022; 16:56)

Re: Perfume (99,743) (99,746) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Aw. Thank you Carlos! "Too Gay to function." I haven't heard that since the '90s. What year are we in? Anyway, we are aware that scent has no gender or sex right, it's simply a scent. Kinda like how pink and blue are simply colours. It's not a tricky concept. Marketing must do a real number on you. (Monday 21 February 2022; 16:37)

Re: Perfume (99,740) (99,745) by Anonymous from USA I love to use M as a perfume and I layer it with a cologne and I get the best of both worlds. My favorite perfumes or whatever are the unisex Tom Ford has put out, they're all delicious, except the peach one, they missed the mark on that one. If I could wear all of Mariah's scents I absolutely would. Who says only women can have the nice things. It's 2022 and time to stop thinking trivial things have to be one way or another. (Monday 21 February 2022; 16:03)

Re: Perfume (99,740) (99,744) by Jamie from UK "I know some here are almost too gay to function, but to the point of wearing perfumes?" Is that even acceptable to say? (Monday 21 February 2022; 13:53)

Re: Perfume (99,732) (99,743) by Carlos from Brazil Matty you are a hottie and with a Mariah scent you are even more perfect. (Monday 21 February 2022; 11:53)

Re: Perfume (99,732) (99,742) by RibbonB from USA You actually wear them? Luscious Pink actually stung my wrists. (Monday 21 February 2022; 07:21)

Re: Perfume (99,732) (99,741) by Victoria from USA I like Honey and Ribbon the most. I had M, but it must've been bad. It smelled like bootie. (Monday 21 February 2022; 05:34)

Re: Perfume (99,732) (99,740) by Edward from USA I know some here are almost too gay to function, but to the point of wearing perfumes? I give you credit for that and those who dare to wear them. The scents are distinctively for women. I love her nail polish though, they're so vividly masculine, the nails on my toes and fingers love them. Oh, and I still have a bottle of her pink water. I refill it with tap water everyday to use at the gym. Sometimes I wonder why women don't look at me though. (Monday 21 February 2022; 05:20)

Re: Mariah featured in NYTimes article about cheating (99,704) (99,739) by Nikki from usa I call BS on this. The NY Times and Post were butt hurt that Mariah was in contention with the Beatles records. They also used to accuse MC's stats of being fake because her label released her singles while airplay was high. That one was repeated in '99 with Heartbreaker. Ironically enough, Mariah made an announcement in August of '99 about when the song would be available for airplay and for a single drop. I believe you can find an article about that on this website still. Heartbreaker dropped on the date in September that she stated in August. Which proves the guy wrong who claimed she waited until her airplay was at a peak then switched the date. There's too many accusations made that turned out to be false because they didn't want her breaking any of their records. I call BS on switching barcodes, because that doesn't actually help the record labels. Billboard changed its rules in the mid 90's so many artists were debuting at #1 for the first time. MC benefited most because she appeals to more than one genre whereas the rest primarily ruled just one. (Monday 21 February 2022; 03:46)

Re: #1's Record Store Day release (99,717) (99,738) by Nikki from usa Not true. Mariah's been trying to get a Beyonce duet since 2006. She's talked about it a lot. It's never come together. I don't know if it ever will, but it wouldn't be from a lack of trying. (Monday 21 February 2022; 03:13)

Re: #1's Record Store Day release (99,718) (99,737) by Nikki from usa But, George liked her remake. He publicly tweeted it. (Monday 21 February 2022; 03:12)

Re: Sweetheart (99,723) (99,736) by Nikki from usa Lol - maybe you guys don't like Sweetheart because it's not a Mariah record. It's JD's track and his production on it. Mariah is only a feature, but does mark the first time where she's all over someone else's record and sounds like the lead. We're so used to hearing rappers overtake her songs to the point she sometimes sounds like a feature on her own track. (Monday 21 February 2022; 03:11)

Re: Perfume (99,732) (99,735) by Jamie from UK I've never bothered with the perfumes tbh. (Monday 21 February 2022; 01:28)

Re: Sweetheart (99,730) (99,734) by Jamie from UK Yes she looks fly in that video. (Monday 21 February 2022; 01:27)

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