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I wouldn't worry about her finances (113,630)
by Nikki from usa
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Mariah's touring so much because she's under contract with Live Nation. She signed with them in 2017. They had to cancel her 2020 tour. Which is why they got her a few headlining gigs, but Mariah didn't have another real tour again until 2022-2023. Live Nation has to combine two Christmas seasons together before they consider it a full "tour". So, Mariah didn't have a 'tour' again until 2023 as far as they were concerned. Which is why they've been riding her so hard ever since. They're trying to make up for lost time.
It states her Tribeca home was under an LLC. So, she has it classified as a business. Which means its expenses are tax deductible. She made it a tax write off. When she sells it, it will be for an investor's capital gains tax which is different from the rest of us mere mortals. Since, it is an asset being sold its mechanics will work different and not include your usual real estate arrangements. AKA: MC will keep more money. She could be using it to pay off debts, it's possible, but she also may not. She will be just fine.
(Friday 17 April 2026; 09:25)
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Lessen the creative control debate (113,629)
by Nikki from usa
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Bruh, it's the industry that nominates them to get them on the ballot. It's the fans that vote them in. She's not in because the fans haven't shown up. The fans don't engage and mobilize anymore. The industry literally nominated her 3 times at least by this point.
Mariah has been recognized for her songwriting. Mariah was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 2022. I think this board has no respect for her, but she's had several honors and dedications to her in just the past few years.
(Friday 17 April 2026; 08:47)
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Lessen the creative control debate (113,614)
by Bobby A from United States
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Do you think MC's creative control over her songwriting and song production is hindering her induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? It is something to think about as the reason why she doesn't receive the recognition for her songwriting abilities like she should in the music industry. If she would collaborate with more established pop, rock, and country songwriters and producers, I think it would open up more possibilities for MC to be seen as a "rock and roll" artist to all of these industry committees and academies. This is the reason why MC was not inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for a third time. Sometimes an artist has to play the industry game and psych them out into noticing what an artist can do musically with their songwriting abilities. Santana did it. Jon Batiste did it. Taylor Swift has been doing it for her last five albums. MC has played it "safe" in this music industry for far too long. It is time for her to do the inconceivable on her next album. They would surely take notice at a Ashley Gorley, Ryan Tedder, Sia or Jack Antonoff collaboration. A Max Martin or David Garcia solely produced album would make them take more notice too.
(Tuesday 14 April 2026; 23:42)
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Mariah's too epic for words (113,628)
by Nikki from usa
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If Mariah didn't have respect in the industry, she wouldn't have been nominated 3 times. Who do you think allows her on the ballot? It's not the fans that choose that, it's the fans that vote for the finalists. You didn't, therefore she isn't.
I keep forgetting this is a board of Celine fans who also like Mariah's 1993 work. This just in - respect isn't a clothing line. Nobody is in the [Hall of Fame] for their attire. The HOF is heavily influenced by rock and roll. The Beatles aren't well loved - they're well promoted, frequently hyped up, have documentaries all the time, and even a movie or two. That's called PR. Because people make big money off of them.
Whitney was never nominated while she was alive. She could've been inducted in 2010. Let that sink in. Are you going to claim it was because of the drugs? That's pretty rock n' roll. She had a career push and a movie about her after her death, because - gasp - the industry can now make money off of her. They even have her hologram on tour.
MC has her own publishing and doesn't allow her music to be used. They can't make money off of her, yet she's nominated. Meanwhile, she has no strong fanbase. They scattered. Pink and Shakira's are highly active and engaged. Half of Mariah's didn't know she was up for the award, how to vote for her, and that they could do it more than once. MC's fans aren't engaged - it's been over 25 years and you're all still harping on her clothes. Deep as a puddle.
(Friday 17 April 2026; 08:39)
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Article: Mariah Carey wants $27M for her NYC penthouse triplex (113,627)
by Nikki from usa
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If she sells that location then what is she going to do with her helicopter? Unless that was sold awhile ago. Exactly, how much was her staff stealing from her? It was for a single woman in the city. I'm sure it was fine for the kids, but they're teens now and will be leaving the nest soon. Maybe she wants a smaller place or she's thinking of sending them off to college. Tuition and gas can be expensive. She still has that million dollar home in Capri. Will that be the new residence?
(Friday 17 April 2026; 08:20)
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Article: Eamonn Holmes stormed out of a Mariah Carey interview (113,556)
by Nikki from usa
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I don't trust much of anything the Daily Mail has to say. Laying down might be normal for Mariah, but not doing them at all would be new. If she was up at 9 I have to wonder if she went to bed at 7am, as a night owl. I'd also need to know the time period, because Stella wasn't so good at keeping up with time changes.
Mariah is known for tardiness, but I always question that too after my own experience with her. When I waited in line at the Mall of America in 2002 she was doing the Today Show. But, the signing wasn't until 6pm. Mariah actually made her rounds to a few radio stations that were begging her to stop by. It was cool to listen to. She did arrive an hour late to the signing. But, I could also see her outside signing autographs for fans when she arrived. It was rush hour - half the fans were late too. Anyway, the next day when journalists were reporting on the event - they said she was 3 hours late. It was reiterated by multiple writers from different publications. I was there - it was 1 hour. She began signing autographs just after 7. Which is why I always wonder how much exaggeration is going on about her tardiness.
(Tuesday 7 April 2026; 04:28)
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Charmbracelet to Caution vocals compared (113,449)
by Nikki from usa
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Her bipolar disorder didn't cause her breakdown and she didn't have an incident or hospitalizations in 2016. She told the public because Stella was trying to blackmail her and threatened to make her sound crazy. She was already telling the press that Mariah was expecting to see Michael Jackson come to dinner. That is not a feature of BiPolar disorder. You guys need to stop making things up and spreading misinformation as a pastime. It's awful of Stella to weaponize mental health and worse when the fans do it. Mariah has been clear about being tired and wanting a break from touring.
(Saturday 21 March 2026; 20:01)
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Charmbracelet to Caution vocals compared (113,446)
by TheButterflyReturns from United States
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I disagree with the "ditch the bipolar meds" suggestion. Mariah has bipolar disorder and has been hospitalized at least twice because of it (once in 2001 and once in 2016 which prompted the disclosure of the Bipolar diagnosis). People living with bipolar disorder really have to stay on the medications in order to remain stable, or they have to make substantial lifestyle changes.
Cutting out alcohol, cutting out other recreational drugs (i.e. cannabis), developing better sleep hygiene, healthy eating, regular exercise, working with a vocal couch, etc. would likely offset any vocal issues caused by medications. Mariah seemed pretty disciplined during the Charmbracelet World Tour, so we know she is capable of pulling it together while using bipolar medications. At that point, she was in good shape physically, the pre-recording use was minimal, and she seemed to be taking good care of herself.
My worry is that Mariah may have gotten hooked on opioids or other prescription medications after injuring herself during the 2013 "#Beautiful" remix music video shoot. As much I disliked Stella's impact on Mariah's career, I do wonder about her claims that Mariah has a substance abuse problem.
(Saturday 21 March 2026; 13:54)
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Article: Mariah says accuser must pay $1M bill from "absurd" lawsuit (113,448)
by Nikki from usa
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Yes. There are no similarities to the songs - they're Christmas songs and fall under that motif. Any similarities are very generic, not song specific. No, I don't think Mariah was inspired by this song - she was inspired by the 60's from the song structure to Specter's style. Even so, it's not a copy. This is very obviously a money grab - he didn't care about Mariah's track for over 20 years. I'm glad Mariah finally fought back for once.
(Saturday 21 March 2026; 19:55)
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Here for it all (113,356)
by Nikki from usa
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I haven't had the chance to actually sit down and listen to all of this. Are there any bops on this album - even by today's standards - or is just MC vibing?
Does Mariah have some avoidance with the #6? 1996 is the only year in the 90's where she didn't release any kind of album. She didn't release an album in 2006 either. Or in 2016 and no news of any release this year. Yet, she seems to love #5. We got Daydream and Someone's Ugly Daughter in 1995 - even if most were unaware of the latter. 2005 we got TEOM. In 2015, we got the updated #1's featuring all of her current #1's and Vegas residency of her singing them live. In 2025, we got Here For It All.
The debut got her back on the charts. On R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay, debuts at #7, the single scores the highest entrance for a song in nearly 30 years, since Whitney Houston's "Exhale (Shoop Shoop)" started at No. 6 in November 1995. It hit #4 on the Digital Song Sales becoming her 10th top 10 hit on that chart. It hit #1 on the Adult R&B Songs chart which isn't a feat Mariah's done since FLAB in 2006. Meanwhile, she finally achieved a music video award for the debut single too. Yet, these new achievements unlocked is what many of you call "failing". I'm so proud of her.
(Tuesday 3 March 2026; 09:32)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (113,355)
by Nikki from usa
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The fact Eminem got in before her tells me it's rigged.
(Tuesday 3 March 2026; 08:59)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (113,329)
by Dave from USA
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Congratulations to Mariah for another opportunity to be inducted into the R&R HoF. Here's to hoping she makes it this time. (I know damn well if Shakira or P!nk get inducted for her, the process is just rigged at that point, lol.)
(Wednesday 25 February 2026; 15:38)
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What's next for Mariah? (113,354)
by Nikki from usa
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Her new deal is interesting because she still owes her other label 2 studio albums. I wonder how this works out. Did she strike up a deal with them where they keep releasing anniversary albums until the cows come home and all her new material will be on this label?
Then, there's the touring. She signed that deal with LiveNation back in 2017. Since, so much got thwarted during covid and then she kept getting sick with the '22 and '23 Christmas tours, they needed to be combined to be considered 1 tour. That means she had a 3-4 year hiatus from a contract none of us have any major info on. Which means LiveNation has been riding her rear these past couple of years to make up for lost time. I think they're going to have her touring until she's 60 when this probably would've ended by now.
I think she may be a bit out of touch with audience demographics. I'm not sure why she thought it was a good idea to sing a ballad at a sporting event. Especially, if she's not comfortable singing on large platforms. The people aren't going to like her performing until she likes it again. I wish she'd take things more seriously instead of flying by the seat of her pants.
(Tuesday 3 March 2026; 08:58)
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Type Dangerous and why it succeeded (113,353)
by Nikki from usa
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People do need to get with the times. 90's Mariah is gone and she's never coming back. She will never be 20 again and she will never look 20 again. It's time to move on and put a fork in Walter while we're at it - he's done. Mariah is not creating nor promoting music like in the 90's.
Type Dangerous did exactly what was intended to do. She spent most of the money on the music video and finally got that long awaited music video award she always wanted. People heard Mariah making new music again and she charted and made new headway on old charts. Her song was playing on the radio. Nothing from Caution did.
Did you see MC promote this song? No. You saw her *debut* it. Once that was done, she went back to doing what she's been doing for the past decade: touring. The music is a vehicle to tour. She's been doing this since Infinity. There is no money in music anymore. Carey hasn't had any issues getting new artists from Ariana to Latto.
(Tuesday 3 March 2026; 08:47)
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Celine was out of line (112,955)
by Nikki from usa
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It's amazing how many people forget facts. Mariah was right to call her out, she'd been pulling that crap all night. There's a reason Celine got a 3 year SNL skit about her. Her behavior was atrocious. This was about divas coming together, not the Celine show. Celine sang over Carole King twice while they were going down the rows. They had rehearsed this, Celine knew that wasn't her place. She kept singing Carole's part for her. Then, Aretha goes down the line and Celine jumped out at the end. Again, out of turn. Then, she has the audacity to compete with Aretha and try to get Aretha to answer her in Aretha's own song. Celine carried on this competition so long, Aretha had to bypass her and finish solo. Even then, Celine tried to have the last belt of Aretha's song that night.
Celine was unbelievably rude. Mariah should've called her out and I'm glad Mariah's not afraid to stick up for what's right. Mariah should defend herself and give clapback when necessary. I don't approve telling women they should be doormats.
(Thursday 8 January 2026; 10:12)
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In lieu of touring for the future (111,581)
by Nikki from usa
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If or when MC wants to get back on the stage I don't think she should do traditional touring. Mariah's never been one for that anyway. She gets bored. I think she should do a one off type of Unplugged performance instead.
She can reimagine the songs back to back if she wants to and give us the highlight reel. She can have it on different channels and platforms or even release it with an album. If she's up for it, she could do it in different locations. NY one time and maybe somewhere in the rainforest for another. Just 1 off concerts with whatever works best for her voice.
It would allow her to have fun, be creative, and not have to do it again night after night. More like a special or two here and there instead of an actual tour.
(Sunday 28 September 2025; 12:30)
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HFIA (111,579)
by Nikki from usa
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You think it's a farewell album? That would be interesting since she just signed this new deal with Gamma and has her own label under it. I'm not sure how she'd be able to make 1 album and dip. But, she could certainly focus on other artists if she wanted to. I just think Mariah loves creating too much and the freedom to do her own thing to dip.
(Sunday 28 September 2025; 12:24)
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HFIA (111,537)
by Munny from United Kingdom
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This most definitely is a farewell album. HFIA is a musical mash-up of every introspective album closer she's ever done. Melodically, it's three-parts Music Box, Looking In and The Wind. Very telling that it closes the album. Her way of saying goodbye.
(Saturday 27 September 2025; 05:09)
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Head scratcher (111,578)
by Nikki from usa
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You don't think they paid off? It got MC her 50th Billboard entry, got her back on radio airwaves beyond Christmas, and another iTunes #1. It also got MC her first ever music video award. I'd say they paid off. She got creative freedom to do what she wanted and actually got some recognition for it this time. I'd call it a W.
(Sunday 28 September 2025; 12:18)
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Head scratcher (111,547)
by Shezz from Pk
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I think it's Mariah and or Gamma thinking those two were more mainstream and younger sounding to appeal to the TikTok/streaming generation. I don't know when she'll realize she doesn't need to cater to them. Not like they paid off anyway.
Here's hoping they ditch PTS asap and get behind IYF or IWAI while the album's hot. NII would be amazing with a raw and vulnerable video though somebody will have to tie her hands.
(Saturday 27 September 2025; 12:40)
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Was the mv Bianca or Mariah? (109,364)
by Nikki from usa
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I saw at the end something called "Bianca Industries" on the building. So, how many of those men did "Mariah" kill? Looks like she poisoned a lot of them, then there's the blinding, the binding, and dropped from a building. Mariah's slaying people literally, I'm kinda here for it. I wonder if the other videos will tell a story.
I'm surprised by the Mr. Beast thing. I know he talked about being in an MC video several weeks ago, but I'm surprised he'd do it if he knew he was getting dissed in it. He's a sensitive type and not the best of people. What he's willing to do for views at the expense of others is pretty bad.
(Monday 16 June 2025; 05:04)
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Tommy and fools be a bit slow (109,192)
by Nikki from usa
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We all know Mariah's history. But, as she stated, she's just playing.
Mariah's literally listing her music videos' cameos. An evil king and castle was Honey. Motorcycle guy is Sweetheart and Beautiful. Computer nerd is Touch My Body. Construction and customs is We Belong Together as a nod to Wentworth Miller. 12th to never is Mine Eternally where Trey Songz leaves Mariah's butt in the rainforest. I think it's brilliant she's bringing up her previous works and music videos. Mariah's right - she doesn't take herself as seriously as others do.
Everyone has started referencing their previous songs in lyrics just as Mariah has done for awhile now, so she's raising the bar. It's a whole new flex.
(Monday 9 June 2025; 04:12)
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Branding/brand deals (108,267)
by Nikki from usa
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I think she should release her own variety of bath supplies. Bath salts, oils, bombs, and bubble baths. Also for dogs and puppies. She's a bath queen and could easily corner that market. Different scents, some for luxury, some for moisture, relaxation, or just that clean feeling.
I don't know that Mariah would ever want a full time brand like Rhianna. She's married to music and creative projects are her mistress. She likes to try new creative things which is why she doesn't stick with anything. Mariah always want to try something new.
However, I do think if she just had a licensing deal only with a group to release bath supplies and only do the creative aspect from time to time, then that would work out for her.
(Tuesday 25 February 2025; 03:30)
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Branding/brand deals (108,255)
by Norman from USA
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To piggyback on the RA, Randy, and Will discussion: Does anyone have any brands they think would be a realistic fit for Mariah to pursue? She doesn't have a proven track record with anything per se, but I don't think it means there isn't anything out there for her.
Also, I'm not sure what her personal branding is anymore. She's being herself which is fantastic, but it's still a business and there should be something to point to outside of Christmas. Staying "booked and busy" is obviously every artist wishes to have, but I would wager something more elevated is needed for her caliber celebrity. More elevated but still accessible, you know?
I think Randy is right about the make-up and perfume routes being saturated. And as much as I like the Black Irish, no one goes out on the town drinking that like vodka and tequila.
I initially thought of shoes, but then remembered the stint on HSN with the clothing and shoes. I'd suggest a brand deal over her own line. Maybe a Louboutin or Jimmy Choo heel named after her, something she wears in a high concept music video (remember those? I'm aging myself). Something like that but fresher and less on the nose than what I just described.
Thoughts? Hey, what about golf clubs for laughs?
(Monday 24 February 2025; 00:49)
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Andrew (108,266)
by Nikki from usa
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When you talk, does it make sense to you? "Mariah has more control over her career now than ever before, so no, she's not forced to be there, she chooses to be there. Once she agrees and signs the contract, she is contractually obligated to fulfill the terms, including any concerts or tours outlined in the agreement."
Yes, that means she has to be there and she signed in 2017. At no point did I say she was a slave. I stated she had her old residency scheduled already under Stella and Jay Z took over. He was her management and scheduled her around the clock. She had to be there, because J signed her up as her manager. Which explains why she fired him in 2019.
It's why she hired a smaller manager. None of this changes the fact Live Nation didn't get another tour from her until Christmas of 2022. It's 2025. That's 3 years, Andrew. I'd be wary of calling someone a liar when you can't even retain basic information. She is under contract to do tours and she's done 1 in 5 years. Best believe they are blowing up her phone. She's also still under contract with her 3 album deal from Sony. Caution was the first and she still owes them 2 more albums. Do you ever check the news section on this site at all?
(Tuesday 25 February 2025; 03:21)
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Remaining Vegas shows (108,241)
by Nikki from usa
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Did you all forget? She does have to be there and keep doing shows. She signed a touring deal with Live Nation at the end of 2017. Her new residency had already begun that year, so they missed out on that and 2017's Christmas season too. Stella was out and Jay's team moved in. Live Nation only had her half the time because the residency took up so much time. It's why she needed an album out in 2018, so they could schedule her next year. Right after the AMA's in the pink dress LN sent her to Asia for a 1 month greatest hits tour before sending her back to the US to finish promoting her album and then doing Christmas shows before having her go on tour for Caution. She still had her residency and then the 25th anniversary of Christmas. Mariah was working around the clock which is why she fired Jay's management team for a smaller manager that would give her more breaks and smaller venues. Probably less commission too. Live Nation was looking forward to 2020 since all her old contracts would be up and 100% of her touring belonged to them, but that didn't happen due to the pandemic. It's why they're working her so hard now.
(Friday 21 February 2025; 02:38)
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Remaining Vegas shows (108,234)
by Randy from USA
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I just don't see the fire. Mariah has been like this off and on since Stella. It would scare me more if she moved around the stage, had banter and wasn't singing along to her own voice in the background. I 100% get she doesn't want to be there but that's common knowledge and people will still go see her because she's an icon. My concern is it does reek of financial trouble and not necessarily, I love to perform so much I don't know when to bow out gracefully. Mariah is fine. She is gigging to make sure she can keep Kristopher Buckle, Mary Ann Tatum, Trey Lorenz, Daniel Moore, the umbrella holder, the rental in LA, the G5, the upkeep on the NYC pad and the house in the Bahamas taken care of. I don't see Whitney Houston's decline. I see more of a Joan Crawford, Judy Garland thing here. "I'm Mariah, dahling. I can't be broke."
(Wednesday 19 February 2025; 05:04)
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Congratulations (104,525)
by Nikki from usa
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Don't mind them. A lot of people here are actually Celine Dion or Madonna fans that also like Mariah's 1993 work and they're upset she deviated from it. We will never hear the end of it. You can tell who they are because every gossip about Mariah that is negative they will believe as unquestioned truth and anything positive requires a receipt. They can't tell if she's singing live, singing with a track, or lip syncing. They just assume if she sounds bad it's live and everything else is trickery. There are a lot of gay people here and they get really upset about that topic for some reason, but you are not the only straight man here. English does have far too much slang, and too many abbreviated terms, so I can understand how confusing it must get for non native speakers. Welcome.
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Congratulations (104,501)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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Of course she will get to number one. She looks better than ever, she sounds amazing (I don't understand why some people say she is lip syncing when clearly she is singing live) and she will be number one for Christmas.
Btw, I have to ask - are there any straight people here or I am the only straight guy here?
(Monday 11 December 2023; 08:48)
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MC, Ariana and JHud (104,524)
by Nikki from usa
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I'm actually wondering if Ariana and Mariah are working on something together.
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MC, Ariana and JHud (104,515)
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I too was thinking why is she not giving JHud the time of the day because Jenny was doing the most and Mariah just treated her like background noise while only looking at Ariana. It was a missed opportunity to he really iconic. But I really wonder why Mariah has become so rigid. In a new instagram post of her backstage singing AIW with her team and walking around everyone's jumping and having fun and she is just so stiff. I hope it's not a health issue then I'll feel bad for saying it but it's been really prominent.
(Tuesday 12 December 2023; 01:46)
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Article: Mariah Carey dethroned (104,490)
by Nikki from usa
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How was it removed from Spotify playlists? I see it as an option when I look for the track. But, Billboard changing its rules out of nowhere and right after they featured Mariah on their award show seems weird. Exactly, how much more is streaming worth when Mariah is literally leading everywhere else from radio to actual sales? It's not like the streaming gap is massive. Is clicking a button on demand in the convenience of your own home really speak to what the public is into more then actually buying the song with your own money or calling up a radio station to hear it combined?
(Sunday 10 December 2023; 03:27)
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View from here (104,199)
by Nikki from usa
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Bye Bye is when she first spent time with Nick. They were married 6 weeks later. She wasn't preggers then. That happened later. I do agree with Andrew, Mariah fell after #Beautiful and has been extra careful since. She broke her rib and dislocated her shoulder. The nerve damage she received down her left side got better, but she never stated if it fully healed, only that she did get full movement of her arm back. She's always worn high heels. They've just got higher and some of the corsets she wears aren't good for breath control. I think she's hyper focused on body structure for her diaphragm while hitting notes.
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View from here (104,184)
by jaker20 from US
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Mariah have been stiff in the last 15 years. If anything, she's moving a bit more now. I don't think its the lipo or any procedure. For me, this really started during the release of E=MC2, and my suspicion is right after her miscarriage which would be around the release of Bye Bye.
She was pretty active in the Touch My Body video. When was the last time you've seen her move like that? So that is why I attribute it to her miscarriage. And I don't even think it's physical. It's more like mental or psychological or something. But hey, I am not a doctor.
Because that is also the moment when she adapted this Paris Hilton/Mean Girls image: super high heels she can barely walk on, super tight skirts ripe for slips that looks uncomfortable to move in. There's a sudden change in how she carried herself in that moment, and it didn't go away, she became a mother and so forth. I would believe medications before I believe lipo, and I hope I'm wrong because I actually prefer the latter.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:16)
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Jimmy Kimmel (103,988)
by Nikki from usa
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Interesting talk coming from a Madonna fan. Perhaps we should go over her appearance and never ending face warp while she tries to relive her youth on stage and does the same things she's done for the past 40 years? But, hey, Mariah's only had an annual hit over the past 5 years, a hit Christmas movie special that went #1 in 100 countries, and old songs so good that they went viral after newbies heard them. What does she know about sales?
(Wednesday 8 November 2023; 06:55)
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Jimmy Kimmel (103,973)
by Andrew from the UK
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Brandon, how could you not like that interview? Don't you find Mariah talking about lighting interesting? Not even about being late? Not "doing" time? Her "bad" side?
Don't you like Mariah looking like she fell asleep in a giant make-up bag? You don't like her being dressed like someone threw a jacket over a hooker to preserve some dignity?
Somebody ought to do a montage of just how many times Mariah has said or done all of this shite in interviews to maybe impress upon her that it's maybe something to do with her own behaviour that she can't sell records or tickets the the general public anymore.
(Monday 6 November 2023; 12:00)
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