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Re: Migrate (89,533) (89,536) by B from USA
It should've been a single.
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 17:50)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,528) (89,535) by B from USA
This. Mariah shedding her lbd in Honey felt authentic and cathartic whereas with Madonna it feels like she does it just to do it.
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 17:48)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,520) (89,534) by B from USA
Maybe not half her age but she looks damn good for her age.
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 17:15)
Migrate (89,533) by SM from Citizen of the World
I always wondered why this song was never a song choice to open any of her tours. Would of been a cool choice.
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 15:52)
Mariah Carey axes cover of Jackson 5 song (89,532) by Dove from United States
She dropped most of the #1's from the setlist. Media just likes to start drama. Also, they may have been friends but she wasn't with him every minute. She may believe he's innocent but she doesn't know for sure that he never molested any kids. IMO it's a good idea to take IBT out of the setlist, at least for a while.
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 15:36)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,528) (89,531) by Andrew from London UK
You summed it up. Madonna's new song is pretty good. But everything feels like Madonna desperately trying to get and retain attention for being edgy. This Madame X nonsense is, well, just nonsense. And a 60 year old acting sexual to an audience of teenagers? GTFO.
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 14:45)
Mariah and Michael (89,530) by Andrew from London UK
If Mariah really has dropped IBT because of unproveable, spurious allegations against a dead man that served only to make those who made the allegations profit then shame on her. She should hope people don't try to profit by accusing her of wrongdoing after she has passed and is unable to defend herself, ruining a lifetime spent doing good. Whatever happened to "He was my friend and I don't believe it"? You know, the type of thing people with integrity might say?
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 14:42)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,528) (89,529) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
That's exactly what Madonna's intention is. She never sells her music as high art. She is very much aware that she's ultimately marketing pop music. She still is the master of flirting with controversy, challenging whatever is deemed normal or acceptable, pushing the boundaries of taste and creating iconic moments in the most provocative way possible. Even current Bey and GaGa and Taylor can still take a lot of notes from her. What has gotten tired for me, though, (aside from the progressively cheapening sex symbol image and wardrobe) is her constant association of sexual expression and religion. That was brave and cool in Like A Prayer, tired by the time American Life came in and has been beaten dead and buried to the ground when MDNA arrived. But she still is hungry. She has never really coasted. There's something to be said for that. She still is Pop's top bitch when it comes to discipline and drive, and even if she doesn't really set the trends anymore, she is at least willing to keep up with what's new and trendy and put her own spin on it. We can't really say that for many of her contemporaries as well as other legacy artists including Mariah.
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 14:20)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,525) (89,528) by Musti from UK
Honestly my problem with Madonna doing things half naked is not her age but that almost every single time it feels like a publicity stunt rather than an art direction. I do applaud her for what she did with the holograms though. Even though the end result could've looked more polished, I can see others trying to copy and perfect it in the near future. This is the type of impact she should be making at this age, not coming out on stage with a patch on her eye and rolling around on the floor like a mop.
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 12:17)
Re: State of her voice (89,501) (89,527) by Tijl from Belgium
Well said. My best friend used to work as a tenor and he performed at the major European opera houses. He told me that throughout his entire career he never used alcohol, didn't smoke and hardly ever hit the town. Preserving one's voice requires a lot of discipline and vocal hygiene. Mariah has been on the bender ever since she left Mottola. This in combination with extensive travelling, doing interviews for hours in a row and not taking the proper amount of rest is a recipe for vocal decline. Of course, a career as an opera singer requires much less PR activities and public exposure than the life of an international superstar.
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 10:17)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,524) (89,526) by Tijl from Belgium
That dress was indeed an atrocity and she doesn't need that kind of outfit to look sexy. The BBMA ensemble was pure perfection.
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 10:10)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,519) (89,525) by Dove from United States
Totally agree with you. When she feels up on herself it makes me cringe too.

It's funny because when Cher used to wear the costumes with all the cutouts it didn't look bad on her IMO. Or the outfit Kim Kardashian wore to the Met Gala was pretty naked but it wasn't as offensive. I can't put my finger on why.

(Thursday 9 May 2019; 00:15)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,508) (89,524) by Dove from United States
If you're asking me B, I don't love when Mariah shows too much skin. Like in this clip for example. Or the rotisserie chickens in the GTFO video. But I'm still a fan. I feel like Mariah is like Playboy and Madonna is like Hustler. (Not that I've seen those magazines but I heard about them on American Playboy: The Hugh Hefner Story.)
(Thursday 9 May 2019; 00:00)
"Can't Let Go" (February 2019) (89,523) by Billy from Greece
She sounds so soulful here. Musically, in terms of melody and structure, "Can't Let Go" is one of the most enchanting songs I've ever heard. Lyrically, it just cuts way too deep.
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 22:19)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,511) (89,522) by MusicfanJ from Germany
"Look at Diana Ross. She is just simply stunning at 75." Oh yes, must be wonderful genes plus a healthy lifestyle. She just looks beautiful. Madonna looks too harsh with all the muscles. Never liked that. Like the "Hung Up" video. What I like most is a classy style or casual and natural. Mariah is a natural beauty.
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 20:06)
Dabbing my eyes (89,521) by Brad from USA
With spring pollen and allergies, I have frequent occasion to have to use eye drops and dab my eyes with a tissue afterwards. Now, thanks to our MC, I chuckle as I think what to do with the used tissue. Thanks for those little moments, MC.
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 18:51)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,516) (89,520) by Special K from USA
Mariah looks half her age? You doing too much B. Mariah looks good but she don't look half her age. Boy you tried it.
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 17:34)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,514) (89,519) by Shezz from Pk
I'm one of the first people to cringe when Mariah's girls are hanging out and when she does that ridiculous touching herself move a la "feel your body, feel your body". I think at the BBMAs Mariah came off classier than Madonna.

To be honest, whenever Beyonce, Lady Gaga or JLo etc show too much skin it never looks that distasteful but somehow Mariah often crossed the line over to distasteful and too much.

I still think Mariah did a fantastic job with her look and her overall performance at the BBMAs. If only her vocals had matched it - still came off well.
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 17:26)
Wise Janet quote (89,518) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
I think Janet said it best when distinguishing Madonna's brand of "Sexy" from hers. "How do I put this? I think what I do has class to it. I'll say that." - Janet Jackson.

Madonna's take on "sexy" and reviling has a very different execution and slant then Mariah, Janet, Toni, JLo etc. These four women aren't raunchy in any way. Madonna is queen of raunchy without any class. I'm not diminishing Madonna's impact or work, but we can't honestly compare Madonna flashing her crotch and dry humping her dancers to Mariah's cleavage. This isn't at all about age, this is about execution, class and brand of "sexy". Good for Madonna for still giving and her hustle, but her rolling around in a pirate Halloween costume just didn't do it for me despite the neat technology used during the performance.
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 17:22)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,513) (89,517) by B from USA
An Andy?
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 16:57)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,511) (89,516) by B from USA
Too much plastic surgery (bad plastic surgery). Mariah looks half her age whereas Madonna looks her age. When was the last time Mariah wore a bikini on stage?
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 16:56)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,513) (89,515) by Special K from USA
And what would that be sir?
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 16:10)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,508) (89,514) by Licia from USA
So we're just going to act like Mariah isn't half way to grandma town still showing her ass and boobies to the world and you guys applaud the mess and don't find that offensive? You hypocrites are funny. Lol.
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 15:39)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,510) (89,513) by Andrew from London UK
There's another name besides "grandmother" for people who have grandchildren in their thirties.
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 13:41)
Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,503) (89,512) by Special K from USA
Age 50 or 60 there is I know a difference. It's just called sexism/ageism. I feel if you can wear it well, it doesn't matter your age. Folks need to get life. Give credit where credit is due. At 49, 50, whatever age she is, Mariah is still absolutely gorgeous. If she want to wear a bikini on stage, she can and the same goes for Madonna. Yeah, Madonna looks old and tired to me but if she wanna rock a bikini, go for it. Look at Toni Braxton, she's always half naked onstage during her concerts and she is I believe 51.
(Wednesday 8 May 2019; 12:11)

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