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Re: Important recordings (92,315) (92,329) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I'd say that's pretty accurate. I'd add We Belong Together in there, though. Nothing in 2005 sounded like it, and after its release there would be a whole lot of WBT-style tracks released. (I Belong To Me by Jessica Simpson, Take A Bow by Rihanna, all of the inferior WBT sequels and clones from Mariah herself, and a good amount of Ne-yo's discography. Even J.Lo tried to have her own with Wrong When You're Gone.) I'd also probably add even Breakdown if only for the fact that this track is one of the most praised Mariah songs ever that even non-Mariah fans love it, which is even more impressive considering it practically is a deep cut. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 11:03)

Re: Mariah (92,326) (92,328) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Okay slow down there - Rare only dropped last Friday, so that would leave it a few more days before sales will officially be counted. As of early projections it's expected to debut at #1 with around 50-55k in pure sales and a possibly larger number in streaming and digital sales on top of that. Selena is a popular artist with a #1 lead song, but she's also one of those whose popularity and singles success doesn't necessarily translate into album sales. Sonically though, Rare is actually quite good. It's almost universally praised by critics. Funny how out of her, Miley and Demi, she technically has the weakest voice but is still the strongest artist. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 10:52)

Re: Mariah (92,326) (92,327) by We are Lambily from USA She sold more than around 7-8 thousands than Mariah. Sorry. And I [sic] been listening for hours now, it's Mariah's new team biggest mistake not including it. Such a [sic] inspiring song. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 10:50)

Mariah (92,326) by We are Lambily from USA It's crazy that one of music biggest stars (Selena Gomes) today sold less than 10 thousands than what Caution sold in pure sales. Even though she had a #1 hit. I honestly couldn't care about sales as I'm listening now. Whatever Mariah has to offer, I'm buying. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 09:35)

Re: Bill / Migrate (92,297) (92,325) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter There was an interview (I do not remember which one) where she was asked about Migrate being a follow up second single after TMB and Mariah clearly says something along the lines of "of course not, it is definitely not going to be a single". She was confident about it and from her tone in agreement with the decision of not releasing it. When Mariah wants something to be a single and doesn't get it her way she usually makes it a point to show she wasn't in agreement with the snub, for example her complaining about not being able to release "The One" instead of "Boy". (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 07:24)

Re: Geek alert: UK singles ranking (92,314) (92,324) by TJ from Norway Why wasn't The Roof released in GB? (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 07:06)

Re: Yummy? (92,316) (92,323) by We are Lambily from USA Infinity is definitely better Yummy, Justin was lucky those girls did that amazing video for him. Sad how generic songs have become. He better have some songs with some substance. I go and play some MOIA to clean my head (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 06:21)

Re: Things have definitely taken a turn (92,287) (92,322) by 123 from USA Ribbon, one of my favs but I have to disagree. It's very follow the leader on the board sometimes so the same bitter privileged girls on the board start their trolling because they obviously are so unhappy with their lives. My advice to those girls, find a real career. I mean now we are calling books that aren't even out until third quarter flops over a title that obviously went way over their head (simple b.t@&e$). It's a book, is it really that deep? Let it flip flop and disappoint I say so the girls can rant. Muah. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 06:04)

Re: Important recordings (92,315) (92,321) by enwar00 from usa Bill I think We Belong Together should be on that list. What a colossal career redefining moment it was. Without that hitting the way it did 15 years into her career, I don't think we would have just experienced these recent records being broken 15 years later. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 04:41)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,310) (92,320) by 123 from USA Here in the States You Got Me should have led the album. Ballads out of style and songs like Fat Joes's What's Luv (uptempo hip hop records with r and b hooks) was pouring out of the radio. Plus she had Jay Z on the song. I remember it was one of the songs playing on her website. Clown should have been the second single to build on the controversy of her and Obsessed short lived fling. They could have went with the One or Sorry You Had You're Chance as the third and final singles. Overseas they got it right with Through the Rain and Bringing On The Heartbreak were both pop ballads. Then they could have finished with Yours. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 03:58)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,312) (92,319) by Licia from USA Although I think JT is a whole twat waffle I believe his input would have been phenomenal. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 03:11)

Re: Important recordings (92,315) (92,318) by Licia from USA I agree with your 3 and I'll add a fourth which is Honey. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 03:08)

Re: Important recordings (92,315) (92,317) by Norman from USA No three singles are more defining. I'd note an honorable mention to WBT, however. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 02:47)

Re: Yummy? (92,293) (92,316) by Andrew from the United Kingdom You're an obsessive weirdo. I say I like Justin's new song and you go off on such a tangent you've lost your head up your arse. Nobody was talking to you. I like Mariah Carey, I like GTFO and With You. I listen to Mariah daily. Why don't you get a life and stop obsessing over me? Lmao. Pray for yourself. (Monday 13 January 2020; 22:41)

Important recordings (92,315) by Bill from the UK As an aside, is anyone in disagreement that the three most important recordings Mariah ever made are: 1. Vision of Love 2. All I Want for Christmas Is You 3. Fantasy (Remix) Would be interested to know of any differing opinions. These three songs I think define Mariah Carey. (Monday 13 January 2020; 22:38)

Geek alert: UK singles ranking (92,314) by Bill from the UK Hi all. You know I love me some lists. And you know I love me some stats. And you know I love being a geek and an excel database here and there. Please see below an excerpt from my Mariah excel, which lists all her UK singles in order of chart position. Why do I find things like this so interesting? Lol. Interestingly, both Breakdown and The Roof managed to chart (at the back end) despite not being released in the UK. The Roof was withdrawn from sale and so the import versions of the two singles did make an impact. Makes you wonder how well they would have fared, had they been released officially. The mind boggles. Position - Year - Title 01 - 1994 - Without You 01 - 2000 - Against All Odds 02 - 1992 - I'll Be There 02 - 1994 - All I Want for Christmas Is You 02 - 2005 - We Belong Together 03 - 1994 - Endless Love 03 - 1996 - Always Be My Baby 03 - 1997 - Honey 03 - 2003 - I Know What You Want 04 - 1995 - Fantasy 04 - 1996 - Open Arms 04 - 1998 - My All 04 - 1998 - When You Believe 04 - 2005 - It's Like That 05 - 1999 - Heartbreaker 05 - 2008 - Touch My Body 06 - 1995 - One Sweet Day 07 - 1993 - Hero 08 - 1994 - Anytime You Need a Friend 08 - 2002 - Through the Rain 09 - 1990 - Vision of Love 09 - 1993 - Dreamlover 09 - 2005 - Get Your Number/Shake It Off 10 - 2000 - Thank God I Found You 11 - 2005 - Don't Forget About Us 12 - 2001 - Loverboy 16 - 1999 - I Still Believe 17 - 1991 - Emotions 17 - 1992 - Make It Happen 17 - 2003 - Boy (I Need You) 19 - 2009 - I Want to Know What Love Is 20 - 1992 - Can't Let Go 22 - 1997 - Butterfly 22 - 2013 - Beautiful 27 - 2006 - Say Somethin' 30 - 2008 - Bye Bye 32 - 2001 - Never Too Far/Don't Stop 37 - 1990 - Love Takes Time 38 - 1991 - Someday 52 - 2009 - Obsessed 54 - 1991 - There's Got to Be a Way 81 - 2010 - Angels Cry 84 - 2008 - I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time 87 - 1998 - The Roof (import) 87 - 2014 - You're Mine (Eternal) 90 - 2013 - The Art of Letting Go 95 - 2008 - I Stay In Love 98 - 1998 - Breakdown (import) I'm sorry. (Monday 13 January 2020; 21:30)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,298) (92,313) by Will from Australia Charmbracelet is hands down my least favourite album so I'd release Through The Rain and move on. When I listen to all the tracks and try imagine them on the radio I just struggle to. If I had to, I'd have released Through The Rain, Bringing On The Heartbreak and then The One. Now before you all come after me with your pitchforks, I do love a few other songs from the album but don't think they're single worthy. (Monday 13 January 2020; 21:08)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,310) (92,312) by Bill from the UK Charm Girl haha, love it. Yes I've no idea why The One was axed when it was seemingly received so positively by fans and critics in their reviews. Interesting that several of the responses have Yours. Great song, and agree, if the JT version had been released I think that would have been really successful. (Monday 13 January 2020; 18:46)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,301) (92,311) by Musti from UK I like the idea of Lullaby being remixed, perhaps with resung and stronger vocals aimed at the radio. But I'd rather have this as a hidden gem on the album than a commercialized number. My single choices would've been: 1) Through the Rain - appropriate, all things considered 2) You Got Me - another Migrate situation 3) The One - unique 4) Irresistible - slow burner, good way to end the CB era (Monday 13 January 2020; 16:24)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,306) (92,310) by Licia from USA Ok Charm Girl is in the building. Lol. My choices are: 1. The One 2. My Saving Grace 3. Yours 4. BOTH 5. You Had Your Chance My picks aren't for which songs would have been hits (although I think The One and Yours with Justin Timberlake might have had a chance). These are just songs I really love. Yes Bill I'm stilled pissed that they chose Boy over The One. Throughout the years before CB came out I never cared or got upset over the single choices, but that was a crap move on so many levels. I wanted to fight team Mariah that day. Lol. (Monday 13 January 2020; 16:07)

Charmbracelet singles (92,309) by Jeff from USA The One You Got Me Yours BOTH (Monday 13 January 2020; 13:05)

Re: Things have definitely taken a turn (92,282) (92,308) by We are Lambily from USA I love your positive attitude, we need more of that (Monday 13 January 2020; 07:20)

Re: The memoir (92,284) (92,307) by We are Lambily from USA A person upbringing is essential to a true artist artistry. Most artists have been through a lot and that's why we connect with them. People like Dua Lipa and most pop artists just makes us happy. But a lot of us go through stuff. Life is a bitch. A lot of you have cute ideas about her going into detail of her albums and songs, she may do that to few songs. But a memoir is a biography in its true nature. I wanna know everything, she won't be able to give us all the tea since the powers to be won't allow that. But I truly hope she is as transparent with her memoir as she has been with her music throughout the years. (Monday 13 January 2020; 07:19)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,298) (92,306) by Bill from the UK Through the Rain was fine for a lead single and good at "resetting" everything after Glitter. I was excited to hear The One was planned to be the second single, and mortified when it was a scrapped in favour of Boy. I would have put out I Only Wanted or Yours as the third single, and would have still ended it with I Know What You Want as the fourth. (Monday 13 January 2020; 07:12)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,298) (92,305) by SM from Citizen of the World 1. You Got Me 2. B'OTH 3. The One 4. Through The Rain (Monday 13 January 2020; 03:20)

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