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Roger (92,477)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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It’s no surprise that Roger would have something negative to say in regards to MC being inducted into the Songwriters Hall of fame, since Mariah cut him off once she dismissed Cindi Berger and PR firm from representation. Ever since then Roger has been salty, and unpleasant towards MC. So take everything that he says with a hint of anger, and being sour. Also Walter has not been inducted into the Songwriters Hall of fame as of yet, and I know it sucks in his eyes that Mariah will have that honor before him, since he has diminished her songwriting capabilities in recent years in different interviews.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 23:56)
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Re: Babyface (92,472) (92,476)
by Bobby A from United States
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He is definitely singing on it in middle of the song.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 23:55)
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H.E.R. (92,475)
by Bobby A from United States
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The artist H.E.R. has been recognized by the Grammys Academy in multiple categories for the 2nd year in a row. She is a breath of fresh air to R&B. If you have not heard her first album, you need to listen today especially to Avenue, Losing, Focus, Every Kind Of Way, Best Part, Changes, and Jungle. The whole album is pure brilliance. Her second album, I Used To Know Her is just good as her debut. You can't fit her music to one certain sound. It is so evidence in her new song Slide. I guess that is why she keeps receiving Grammy nominations. She doesn't work with producers who you can hear their sound as soon the song starts playing. H.E.R. will never sing her lyrics over a Timbaland or Jermaine Dupri beat. It is just not who she is nor how she wants her songs to be heard. Chris Brown does the same thing when he records an album. It's like he gathers all of L.A. homeboys and up and coming songwriters and producers all in the studio and they knock out new sounds in the studio. His new song Overtime is evidence of a new Chris Brown sound. Maybe that is where MC has gone wrong with her last few releases. I would like to see her work with some lesser known producers and songwriters to really give her a new sound and relatable lyrics that are not so autobiographical or predictable like With You. Let's hope we get a new album that is a new and fresh sounding MC.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 23:28)
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Re: Mariah (92,459) (92,474)
by B from USA
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To fans who prefer her earlier work, did you buy Caution or listen to it more than once? If not I suggest you do so because it takes several repeated listens for you to get the brilliance of the album. Yes, there's no immediate standout like Fantasy or big ballad like WBT but it's a solid album about relationships. The only issue is the transition from GTFO to With You tonally but since GTFO addresses her relationship with Packer and With You chronicles her relationship with Bryan it does make sense to sequence them back to back as together they tell a story.
Caution is an album about relationships that chronicles Mariah's life since 2014. GTFO is about Packer. With You is about her affair with Bryan. Caution is about being unsure of Bryan's motives and taking things slowly to ensure she isn't hurt or betrayed again after Nick and Packer. A No No is about Stella and Co. The Distance is about her and Bryan's relationship after reuniting. GML is also about Bryan. OMG is about her and Bryan's sex life. 8th Grade addresses her insecurities, insecurities she's had since she was in 8th grade. SLLY is again about Bryan. Portrait is her taking stock of her life and wondering where she goes from here.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 22:10)
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Re: Where's whining Walter? (92,455) (92,473)
by B from USA
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He makes me cringe. Did you read his interview with Variety where he claims she doesn't give him the credit he deserves? She has said she co-wrote it with him which is being generous since both have stated in the past that she came up with the unconventional melody which he thought wouldn't work and wrote the lyrics by herself and took it to him and he added some bells and whistles to it. His demand to be given equal credit for the song is laughable. Now if he had co-written the lyrics his claim would have some merit but he didn't so it doesn't. He thought her career was over when she began working with R&B and Hip Hop writers and producers and he told Tommy that she was going to alienate her adult contemporary fans by doing so and when Tommy, who she had banned from the studio, confronted her about it she knew Walter was responsible and that is the reason she ended their relationship. He also claimed she makes up words using emblazoned from My All as an example which is a word so it made him look like a fool. She's never going to reconcile with him. He betrayed her trust. He essentially owes his career to her because while working as a keyboardist for Narada Michael Walden Mariah and he clicked and she insisted that she work with him on Love Takes Time when Tommy heard her demo despite his insistence that she continue working with already established producers.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 22:00)
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Re: Babyface (92,436) (92,472)
by Licia from USA
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I'm always here for a Mariah/Babyface song. I grew up listening to him and he's awesome. They make beautiful music together. Never Forget You is my favorite song from Music Box. I had no idea he had anything to do with Melt Away. Normally I can tell he's involved because he almost always is singing background on the songs he's involved in. I can't hear him in the bg on Melt Away. Now I gotta go listen to Melt Away 500 times to investigate. Lol.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 21:57)
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Re: Mariah (92,459) (92,471)
by Aliya from Canada
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I think Mariah's songwriting ability is truly highlighted in songs such as Babydoll and We Belong Together. She effortlessly paints a picture in my head and makes listeners sympathize with her because she lets her emotions flow. It's beautiful. Mariah could definitely be a successful novelist if she wanted to. I would love for her to capture moments like these in future songs. Not to mention, in both of these songs, her voice was fire.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 21:38)
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Honestly (92,470)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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Honestly speaking just because a fan enjoys one particular album over another that does not make them any less of a fan or supporter. I can appreciate what she with Caution just as much as I do Daydream which is for many Mariah's pinnacle. On the other hand lyrically I appreciate Charmbracelet but vocally I feel like something is missing. My point is that I love and appreciate Mariah's discography as a whole for what it is but some albums touch more than others. But it does not mean I am less than a fan or supporter than anyone else that posts here. We are all fans for different reasons, and we all prefer different albums/eras and our preferences should be respected. On another note Caution is in my top five favorite Mariah albums of all time.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 21:15)
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John Legend's new song (92,469)
by Malcolm from Asia
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Have you guys listened to his new song? I just imagine it would be nice if Mariah hops on in this song, write some new verse and released it as a remix like what Ed Sheeran and Beyonce did to Perfect, I honestly think it would be nice to at least tease us with this before she release something on her own. Hit or not I think I and everyone will be glad if she do this, it's a good song and a great addition to her collaborations.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 19:34)
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Re: Where's whining Walter? (92,455) (92,468)
by Norman from USA
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When was Walter A inducted? I can't find any mention of him and the award. I know that sniveling Roger Friedman was griping about Mimi getting inducted before him, and being overall unpleasant towards her as is his custom. I'm very happy she's inducted and that they're whining.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 19:31)
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Re: What if (92,454) (92,467)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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I'd be thrilled, not at the possibility of them working together again, but of the idea that Mariah is actually capable of squashing a decades-long beef. For about 5 seconds. And then I'mma be over it and go, "Okay, that was interesting, can we bring in another producer that Mariah hasn't worked with yet? Preferably someone that no one would ever expect her to work with."
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 18:40)
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Re: Mariah (92,459) (92,466)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Caution is nowhere near the musical or lyrical masterpiece that is Butterfly. I would say, though, that GTFO and With You are particularly brilliant. However, they are let down by really, really, really, really, really, bad lyrics in places:
"Go stay at your friend's house or something Don't mean to be rude, but take your shit and leave"
"As we were sneakin' through that door Had to leave by half past 4"
Close My Eyes or Outside they are not. But the songs themselves are good enough to be classified as two of Mariah's best. Probably her best in a decade, aside from You Don't Know What To Do and Beautiful. And perhaps The Art of Letting Go (which itself is massively let down by some really clunky lyrics).
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 18:40)
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Re: Celine vs. Mariah (92,438) (92,465)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Celine and Mariah were once comparable in range but Mariah struggles to get anywhere above speaking range relying upon "eh eh" whereas Celine can still do it (which is a matter of fact).
Mariah does have the better tone for Celine sounds cringeworthy when she does a soft whisper voice (which is a matter of opinion).
To attempt to represent Celine as having vocal issues on a par with Mariah, or having relied upon lip-sync as much as Mariah, is revisionist nonsense (which is a matter of deception).
Also, calling Celine "the woman" repeatedly is little bit, I dunno, dark?
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 18:33)
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Re: Where's whining Walter? (92,455) (92,464)
by RibbonB from USA
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Sorry that he should read that JD was inducted before her. Ugh autocorrect.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 18:23)
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Re: Ivy Park (92,456) (92,463)
by RibbonB from USA
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Janelle Monae and Missie have been hyping it up on Twitter. I wondered if Mariah got her special Ivy Park footlocker package. If she fid, she's not hyping it on social media.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 18:21)
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Re: Mariah (92,458) (92,462)
by RibbonB from USA
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It's so beautiful though. Hey it just shows we have different tastes and Miss Mimi can speak to us all.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 18:18)
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Re: What if (92,454) (92,461)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Sadly it won't happen. But if I would see that picture I would be so suprised and happy at the same time. Because they would create magic again. Another haunting song for sure.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 17:41)
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Re: Mariah (92,459) (92,460)
by We are Lambily from USA
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Butterfly is my favourite album, so you can keep your offence. Caution is the perfect album for this decade and if Mariah had the same machine behind her as in the 90s, it would do just as good.
Her songwriting is just as good. There is no skips in the album. Can't say the same for her early albums. If I was a yes-yes bleating lamb I wouldn't criticise those albums. But I keep all those opinions to myself and enjoy her good stuff. Daydream, Butterfly, Charmbracelet, MIAM, Caution, TEOM and Memoirs are my favourite albums.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 15:59)
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Re: Mariah (92,457) (92,459)
by Bill from the UK
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As I said, if you prefer the songs on Caution to those on, say, Butterfly, then great for you. You're a yes-yes bleating lamb so it's pointless debating anything with your kind, no offence.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 15:38)
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Re: Mariah (92,452) (92,458)
by Musti from UK
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8th Grade is the only track on the album that I skip. But it seems non-fans like this song too. I was getting me some retail therapy the other day and this song just came on out of nowhere. And it blended in well with the other songs on the playlist.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 11:39)
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Re: Mariah (92,450) (92,457)
by We are Lambily from USA
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GTFO is a fun song, nobody said Mariah has to make serious music 24/7. As she said it was a firecracker and honestly a song she needed to write in order to express how she felt with certain people in her life. Music is art and art should reflect life. So in that case GTFO was the most perfect song describing how Mariah felt at the time. The fact that is Mariah most critically acclaimed album says a lot, her songwriting was just as good as ever.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 09:44)
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Ivy Park (92,456)
by Norman from USA
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Do you guys think Mariah would wear any of these outfits? B gave a few celebrities the whole collection as a gift. I remember loving the Adidas outfit she wore to the Nickelodeon awards show. Just a random question.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 05:22)
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Where's whining Walter? (92,455)
by RibbonB from USA
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Has anyone read Walter A congratulating Mimi for her illustrious induction yet? He's probably wondering how he could stake claim to her win. He contributed to a song or few, but this is about Mimi and shows they are separate and distinct in their relevance. Mimi was a little ticked that he was inducted before her, but they are even in different lanes as performer vs. producer. Congrats to Rick Nowels for his win this year. I've long wanted him and Mimi to work together. If they don't know each other already, I hope they meet and connect. A partnering with a musician and writer of his caliber could make for excellent new music.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 02:29)
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What if (92,454)
by Bobby A from United States
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What if Mariah posted a picture of her and Walter A. in the studio, how would you react? I know I would probably jump for joy and say she can forgive and move on after 20 years.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 02:27)
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8th Grade (92,453)
by Dove from United States
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Speaking of 8th Grade, has anyone watched this movie? It captures the feeling I think Mariah is singing about.
(Sunday 19 January 2020; 01:33)
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