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Re: Everything Fades Away (93,118) (93,126)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I love EFA so much. One of her best songs ever. Agree the snippets are very enjoyable. Can't stop listening. That song is magical. Jojo was also great.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 19:18)
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Sack the stylist (93,125)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Ever eternally hated for my opinions, I have stated I think the way Mariah is styled now (hair, make-up, wardrobe) is really off point. Am I truly the only one that thinks this?
I, personally, would like to see hair with volume, wavy hair, less clown make-up with more natural tones and fashionable clothing - including pants. And definitely I don't want to see her tits anymore. Or ever again. That Everything Fades Away snippet video... if you don't admit all you are focussing on are the girls hanging out, well, I won't believe you.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 18:57)
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Re: Evergreens (93,117) (93,124)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Finally, some sense.
Mariah in the 90's in the UK was very successful. Number 1's in the UK are not like in the US. To achieve it in the United States is a feat, based on sales and radio play (right?). In the UK in the 90s, number one records were primarily for BritPop bands which were the in-thing (think Oasis and even Spice Girls) and one hit wonders and gimmick records. That Mariah was top 5/top 10 for most of the 90's is incredible.
During Daydream Mariah was incredibly popular and well thought of (anyone here go to the London Daydream show?). Unfortunately (for her popularity), in 1997, two things happened.
First, she took her clothes off and never really put them back on again. Nobody wanted it from her, nobody respected it. Secondly, the general view was that she was trying to be ghetto (for want of a better word). And in the 90's nobody here was going to get on board with that, musically. So she became a source of derision - which, actually, really upset me for ages, and I spent years defending her, even deluding myself like the delulons on here still, worryingly, do. Add the vanity project of Glitter into the mix and Mariah in the UK was pretty much over.
Until TEOM...
I was more surprised than anybody. The British actually started to like her again. She was a credible artist with style and a good attitude - not the vain, attention-seeking titty-popping, gangsta's moll wannabe everyone thought she was.
Alas, she then met Nick Carter and everything fell apart, once more, and she's been treading water ever since. Still, she can still sell out arenas and I'm glad she has toured the various countries of the UK rather than just doing London. It's in the top 5 of music markets in the world so paying attention to it again is a good idea. I really hope Mariah does not fuck up Brighton.
I really would like the UK to fall in love her, again. Putting the tits away and getting a new stylist would really help.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 18:52)
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Re: What career achievement makes you most proud? (93,114) (93,123)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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As per usual on this site, when someone asks people to name the *1* thing of x or y, the muppet brigade brings out lists.
Lists are mostly meaningless and even more so in this case. Mariah's biggest accomplishments are well known and an *exhaustible* list. Almost nobody here needs them llisted. Chances are if someone is on this site they have followed Mariah's career well enough to be able to recite them in chronological and backwards alphabetical order. You completely miss the point of the survey to simply (and nauseatingly) virtue signal about how much the muppet brigade just-love-Mariah-so-much-ohhhhhhhh-they-simply-can't-chooooooose.
If the person who had nominated this topic as a survey of interest had offered that he needs to be educated on simple basics of Mariah's career instead of trying to trying to see if there was a consensus on something purely subjective, you would have been right in there.
Muppet.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 18:37)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,115) (93,122)
by Aliya from Canada
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TEOM all the way. This is when she really began to incorporate R&B. Her voice on this album was breath-taking. In my opinion, her voice is much better here than on E=MC2. I can't imagine I would like her as much as I do without TEOM. From Stay the Night to One and Only. I have yet to here [sic] another album like this. It's a classic. And it's exactly my style of music. This album is really when I became a hardcore lamb.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 16:27)
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Music 2020 (93,121)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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I am in agreement that Mariah should release a fun uptempo song with a summertime vibe.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 16:02)
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Re: New music 2020 (93,091) (93,120)
by B from USA
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Mariah should release a summery feel-good song like Dreamlover, Fantasy, or #Beautiful.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 15:09)
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Re: Hair (93,079) (93,119)
by B from USA
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You're delusional, you're losing your mind.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 15:05)
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Re: Everything Fades Away (93,105) (93,118)
by B from USA
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I hope she continues singing acapella snippets of albums cuts and fan favorites.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 15:03)
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Re: Evergreens (93,109) (93,117)
by B from USA
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Her success in the UK isn't as impressive as her success in the US but it's nothing to scoff at.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 15:02)
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Re: Evergreens (93,109) (93,116)
by Bill from the UK
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Some minor corrections.
Endless Love reached #3 and Heartbreaker #5. But yes, she generally did better with other people's material than her own.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 14:59)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,108) (93,115)
by B from USA
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I listen to TEOM more than E=MC2. I listen to TEOM from start to finish without skipping a song (although I don't care for To The Floor). I only listen to Migrate, Touch My Body, Cruise Control, I'm That Chick, Side Effects, I'll Lovin' U Long Time, Thanx 4 Nothin', For The Record, and I Wish You Well on E=MC2. I always skip I Stay In Love, Love Story, Last Kiss, O.O.C., and Bye, Bye.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 14:50)
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Re: What career achievement makes you most proud? (93,113) (93,114)
by B from USA
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Being named Billboard's Artist of the Decade '90s and the World Music Award's Artist of the Millennium, being named Billboard's Top Female Solo Artist of All Time. Her 19 #1's, her back to back Billboard of the Decade One Sweet Day and We Belong Together, making the biggest comeback in music history with TEOM. Releasing her best-reviewed album 28 years into her career after several years of professional and professional turmoil.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 14:30)
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Re: What career achievement makes you most proud? (93,107) (93,113)
by Tijl from Belgium
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Every year at Christmas time, Mariah's AIWFCIY introduces her to a new and younger audience. A new lamb is born every day.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 13:13)
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Doja cat (93,112)
by We are Lambily from USA
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Say so is the bomb, such good feeling song. Everyone should play it.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 09:44)
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Re: Everything Fades Away (93,106) (93,111)
by Bill from the UK
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Bruno bloody Mars.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 08:43)
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Re: Everything Fades Away (93,106) (93,110)
by Bill from the UK
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She re-recorded AIWFCIY for MCIIY, Hero for The Ballads, and Can't Let Go for Can't Say No.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 06:55)
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Re: Evergreens (93,099) (93,109)
by Norman from USA
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Interesting. Hasn't her success out in the UK been a bit of a mixed bag?
Her 2 #1 songs there are covers: Without You Against All Odds
Her first single was a top 10: Vision of Love - #9
Her first top 5, however, is also a cover: I'll Be There - #2
The rest of her top 5 runs? Endless Love - #2 (cover) AIFCIY - #2 Fantasy - #4 Open Arms -#4 (cover) ABMB - #3 Honey -#3 My All -#4 WYB -#4 Heartbreaker -#4 IKWYW -#3 It's Like That - #4 WBT #2 TMB -#5
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 05:42)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,103) (93,108)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Yup. JD was basically an earlier, less obnoxious and more tolerable version of DJ Khaled when it comes to ensuring his stamp was on his productions.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 04:51)
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What career achievement makes you most proud? (93,107)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Just like many other fans, for the longest time it was also TEOM for me. That was, and somehow is still the proudest time to be a lamb because of how she triumphantly proved every naysayer who has written her off wrong.
But that has changed to the release of Caution, at least to me. It is one thing to have these landmark "flashy" career achievements that many know of ans cherish - blockbuster successes, high accolades, and flawless live performances - but there's definitely something to be said about the almost unanimous critical acclaim that Caution received. In a world where legacy artists are often told to retire than embarrass themselves with one underhwelming release after the other (Madonna being the best example, and Janet for a while from 2001 up until Unbreakable was released), Caution was also somehow a personal achievement for Mariah, who finally accepted the limitations of her current voice, at least on record.
Caution wasn't a commercial success by any means, but I feel like it is hasn't fallen on deaf ears for casual fans as well. I remember watching many videos from YouTubers counting down their best albums of 2018. Understandably, they filled their top 10s with releases from current artists with huge, rabid fanbases to shut them up and remain in their good graces, and for every video that has left out Caution, many young frequent commenters / subscribers have pointed out the album's absence in such lists. The album seems to be Mariah's most beloved effort since E=MC2, maybe even TEOM, at least from what I have observed from my time in many YouTube comment sections. And while many would deem mere YouTube comments as an inaccurate, even ridiculous gauge of public reception, when you consider that a huge bulk of the people who even care to comment are from the younger demographic, every praise and like the album gets shouldn't count as nothing.
Caution is an understated proof that the magic is still there, 28 years into Mariah's career.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 01:27)
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Re: Everything Fades Away (93,105) (93,106)
by Bobby A from United States
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This is so good. She should re-record Melt Away with Babyface for 2020 and release as a single for the summer. A few remixes with Bruno Mars and JoJo would be great too. But MC has only re-recorded one song in a her whole career and that was Hero with the Never Too Far/Hero Medley. So it probably won't happen.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 00:49)
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Re: Everything Fades Away (93,104) (93,105)
by Billy from Greece
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So great hearing this. And the live snippet of "Melt Away" sounded so good.
(Sunday 1 March 2020; 00:17)
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Everything Fades Away (93,104)
by Lee from UK
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She did that. I'm loving these back stage moments. First, Slipping Away and now, Everything Fades Away. My 1990s inner child is satisfied.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 23:28)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,096) (93,103)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
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That is true Bill JD does talk a lot on the record. I genuinely think I've learned to tune him out over the years.
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 23:20)
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Re: Anyone else listen to E=MC2 more than TEOM? (93,096) (93,102)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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"Y'all know what this is."
(Saturday 29 February 2020; 21:54)
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