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Re: So Cold (93,420) (93,423)
by Bobby A from United States
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I really believe MC was so right to say that she is really alto. Most altos who try to sing like a soprano end up sounding very nasal and see deterioration in their vocal capabilities. Check out gospel singer Kim Burrell or Dorinda Clark Cole for examples. Some sopranos become altos because of not singing from their diaphragm or improper breathing techniques. Maybe MC has been singing out of her range all of her career. Didn't Gladys Knight say in an interview in the late 90s that MC sings out of her range?
(Sunday 29 March 2020; 03:22)
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Always Be My Baby (93,422)
by Bobby A from United States
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So, MC is playing it safe by singing ABMB tomorrow night. I feel that is a great choice for her to show everyone she can still sing like nobody else.
(Sunday 29 March 2020; 03:12)
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Flowers (93,421)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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Mariah is one of few true superstars from her era. We have witnessed both her triumphs, as well as her missteps. But the beauty of it all is that she is among us and still sharing her gifts. Her music has been the soundtrack to so many lives. It is important that we continue to give her flowers before we have to speak about her in the past as we are speaking so many of our greats who have passed.
(Sunday 29 March 2020; 03:10)
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Re: So Cold (93,419) (93,420)
by Bill from the UK
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I think I'm the only one here who thinks her voice was noticeably different on Daydream, rather than Butterfly. Daydream was very nasally, and brassy in places, plus this was when she started to break up her melismatic runs into more statacco sounding ones. Merry Christmas was the last album sung in her show stopping immaculate voice. Daydream was some sort of transition, and then it went downhill from Butterfly onwards.
(Sunday 29 March 2020; 00:06)
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Re: So Cold (93,415) (93,419)
by Edward from USA
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"Rainbow was when she sat down in a field and took some mushrooms for a bit. With Glitter she was spinning out on said mushrooms, Charmbracelet was the comedown and TEOM was when she realised she was once heading somewhere and decided to haul ass. E=MC2 was the migration to the after-party and Memoirs was when she realised she was too old for this shit and went home for a bath."
Thanks for making me laugh hard in times of the Coronavirus.
One thing thoigh, with Butterfly, just like the ones before it, she kept improving, but sadly "The Voice" as we knew it, had evidently started changing.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 21:16)
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Re: So Cold (93,415) (93,418)
by Bill from the UK
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Haha. CoBoWo. That has to become a thing like Crapfinity lol. For most of my childhood Emotions was just one of her early albums before the juggernaut of Music Box, but in my old age I appreciate it more and more with each listen. I mean sure, half of it just rips off soul songs from the 70s, but her vocals are impeccable, So Blessed is divine (agree Lucia, single worthy), and whilst live renditions of Make It Happen during the 90s were brilliant, I also love the slick, laid back vibe the album version has. In fact it's my favourite song from the album. I love the story David Cole told about her being unable to get the bridge right, until, after trying all day, at 3 in the morning she grabbed the mic and belted it out in one take.
She sang it live on the London leg of the Daydream tour, of which I was an attendee. Amazing rendition, amazing night.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 20:55)
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Re: Article: Mariah Carey celebrates milestone birthday in the studio (93,416) (93,417)
by Bill from the UK
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I've thought this for a long time. Mariah professes to be a Christian, and any Christian worth their salt knows that "thou shalt not lie". So, rather than unearth a huge web of deceit crafted since day one, that would then involve other questions being asked (i.e., were your vocals also a manipulation), then she just avoids it by never acknowledging her age. It's not lying exactly, but deflection from the truth. This is why I hope the memoir is her just lifting all those burdens and coming clean about every single thing. But then the other part of me is like, why lie about one year? Was it to coincide with the "Paint Your Wagon" story, that she was named after They Call The Wind Mariah. Was that an exotic stage name, and she was really called plain old Maria? Who knows. But yes, something is amiss.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 20:50)
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Article: Mariah Carey celebrates milestone birthday in the studio (93,416)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Apologies for the influx messages but it occurs to me:
Is the reason Mariah says "anniversary of my 12th birthday" because not to do so would be to have to say her actual age, which, if the stories about the Mottola 69/70 manipulation are true, would mean her actually lying. And as far as I know, Mariah uses smoke, mirrors, hints and deflection, but I am not certain she has ever actually lied.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 18:39)
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Re: So Cold (93,409) (93,415)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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See, my brothers and I fell in love with Mariah because of Music Box (stemming from stealing the Proctor's Theatre VHS from the neighbours). So my eldest brother, Jonathan, went and bought the Emotions CD. We were all left a little flat. There were no stand out tracks except for TTEOT. Make It Happen was a very smooth, subdued affair compared to the live version. Emotions is a CoBoWo (Cohesive Body of Work lol) if you want to go there but is not timeless, perhaps? That being said, Emotions was a massive improvement on Mariah Carey but nothing compared to Music Box.
I would go so far as to say that every new Mariah Carey album was a massive improvement on the previous (I'm even counting Merry Christmas being better than Music Box) until Butterfly, where. instead of getting better and moving forward, she sort of side stepped onto a different path, but the same distance on the journey to excellence.
Rainbow was when she sat down in a field and took some mushrooms for a bit. With Glitter she was spinning out on said mushrooms, Charmbracelet was the comedown and TEOM was when she realised she was once heading somewhere and decided to haul ass. E=MC2 was the migration to the after-party and Memoirs was when she realised she was too old for this shit and went home for a bath.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 18:29)
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Re: Mariah's benefit contribution (93,391) (93,414)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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I doubt even Mariah really wants to sing Hero - she's been practically complaining about it with the same intro spiel forever, but it still is her most recognizable evergreen, and is one of the few hits she can truly sing at most 90% live. Plus it has a fitting message. Although I'd rather her do the Never Too Far and Hero medley. A little too on the nose with this period of social distancing, but at least it could make things a little more interesting.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 18:29)
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Re: Flowers (93,410) (93,413)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Randster, you don't by me flowers, no mo', bro. Email me with your numero. I changed phones.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 18:19)
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Re: Late to the party (93,408) (93,412)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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The global pandemic has not highlighted disparity between the haves and have nots. Quite the opposite. What it has done is highlight that we are, for the most part, equal. We are equally susceptible to catch a virus, and, though not equally at risk from dying from it, we are affected equally by the collapse of our health services, the collapse of our economies and the collapse of our way of life. To make this about wealth suggests a narrow way of viewing the world. Many business owners, once well-off, now face imminent financial ruin. Everyone stood outside here at 8pm the other night to clap the workers of our (frankly excellent - and socialist) health care system which we are all staying indoors to protect. There is unity amongst the rich, the middle man, and the poor.
If one thing can be taken from this, it is that the west will quickly rethink its dealings with the rest of the world until it can sort its shit out. Which doesn't seem like any time soon.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 18:18)
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Re: So Cold (93,409) (93,411)
by Licia from USA
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I agree. Emotions is my second favorite album. I played that cassette so much back in the day that it got caught in my cassette player and broke. My mama wouldn't buy me another so I had to use scotch tape to put it back together (same thing happened to her first album, I killed that cassette. lol). Although TM shaded the album because it only went to #2, Emotions is perfect.
And So Blessed should have been a single. Lol.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 18:14)
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Flowers (93,410)
by Randy from USA
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So I want to follow up on my last post. I posted 5 great performances of MC on Facebook. Collectively they got three likes maybe one comment. I was a fan of Michael Jackson but made jokes about his boy obsession, his strange looks and then he was gone. I was a fan of Whitney Houston and made crack jokes and then she was gone. Prince. Gone. Luther. Gone. Natalie. Gone. Aaliyah. Gone. Left Eye. Gone. My point? MC is batshit crazy, the voice has deteriorated, her latest music has disappointed, and her weight is up and down. I don't care about any of that. I want the world to give MC her flowers, for all of the invaluable music she has given us to get through this complicated life, now while we still have the chance.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 15:34)
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Re: So Cold (93,406) (93,409)
by Bill from the UK
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Great song. In fact I think the entire Emotions LP is pretty much flawless. It has some of her most beautiful ballads coupled with some of her most high energy dance tracks. The 70s disco meets 60s soul concoction was just sublime. A beautiful album.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 15:05)
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Late to the party (93,408)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Happy anniversary, Mariah. 50 looks good on you.
Hope everyone's doing fine. We send love, support and prayers to all our frontliners, medical or not - everyone who is putting their lives on the line to provide basic, indispensable services. You are our heroes.
It is difficult to stay optimistic in a time where thousands are getting infected and dying on a daily basis. While this pandemic may have highlighted the disparity between those who have too much, those who have just enough and those that are lucky to have anything at all, it has also brought out some of the best of humanity. I have never seen a stronger outpouring of love and support from so many people, and it's heartwarming to see the voluntary efforts and initiatives from everyone, some of them even coming from those who you wouldn't peg to be the giving/caring type.
When this passes, for all of our invaluable losses, it would be ideal to gain more from this than just lower crime rates and pollution levels globally. It's one hell of a wake-up call, so it would be a huge shame and upset to let it go to waste. Here's hoping that we would have learned to be more compassionate with each other and be more appreciative of the little things in life that we usually overlook - especially personal interaction. We owe these internal changes to those we were blessed enough to outlive. Until then, though, the fight continues.
Stay safe, healthy and happy, y'all.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 14:20)
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Birthday card (93,407)
by Patrik Molnar from Hungary
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Happy birthday to the #Beautiful one and only Mimi. Love you, Mariah. 
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 09:16)
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So Cold (93,406)
by Licia from USA
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In honor of that big 5-0 for MC I'm revisiting songs again. Right now I'm stuck on So Cold for some reason. I normally only listen to the intro of the song then I turn it off. After playing the whole song 3 times back to back it's a pretty decent song. I didn't hate the song, I just never played it alot throughout the years.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 04:22)
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Happy silver anniversary, MC (93,405)
by Randy from USA
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I have been posting my favorite live performances on Facebook all day. No one has liked or commented #sadface. Words cannot express what her music means to me. Right To Dream gave me a distant glimmer of hope in the midst of severe alcoholism and depression. More recently Through The Rain has helped me navigate through a confusing sobriety and I've held tighter to my faith. As a teenager, the only out homo in a large Black hypermasculine family, Outside described exactly how I felt. I could list probably a dozen more specific instances but I've probably already overshared. I recently turned 40 and am in the process of changing cities and even though I don't play them because they are on my phone, I will pack my 27 Mariah Carey CDs, albums and singles in a box marked fragile. Music Box. Oh I'm so [censored] corny.
(Saturday 28 March 2020; 01:27)
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Re: A tribute to Mariah on her anniversary (93,403) (93,404)
by Tijl from Belgium
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I really enjoyed reading that. Thanks.
(Friday 27 March 2020; 21:39)
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A tribute to Mariah on her anniversary (93,403)
by Richard from USA
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Hi all. I wrote this piece about my longtime fandom and rank what I think our her 50 best songs. I know everyone will disagree with my ranks, but that's part of the fun. I thought some of the readers on here might like to check it out. Enjoy your celebrations, lambily.
(Friday 27 March 2020; 21:11)
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Happy birthday (93,402)
by Tameka walker from United states
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Happy birthday to one of the best voices in music today.
(Friday 27 March 2020; 20:55)
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Re: Mariah's benefit contribution (93,391) (93,401)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Agreed, Hero is a song about self-identifying, loving yourself and boldly being true to who you are, which is a theme that has nothing to do with what is going on at the moment.
I think Anytime You Need A Friend is her song that may more closely follow the theme of the time. "Keep the faith" - "even though you're miles away", and so on (maybe change "take my hand, take me into your heart" to "wash your hands, for twenty seconds" lol). It doesn't have to be the full blown affair but something more subdued, acoustic so that its beautiful and sombre and not bombastic and sketchy.
It will be interesting to see what she comes up with as she is isolating and I assume she has no backup singers with her. Mariah alone singing a song for the world is just anathema to her career now.
(Friday 27 March 2020; 19:19)
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Re: Happy birthday, Mariah (93,395) (93,400)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Perhaps you're right. A bit miserable, even by my standards. Happy birthday, Mariah. Perhaps it's just thinking of Mariah as a 50 year old. She was 23 when I first fell in love with her. I hope everyone is staying safe and staying positive.
(Friday 27 March 2020; 19:08)
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Happy birthday MC (93,399)
by Bill from the UK
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Happy birthday Mariah. 50. Wow.
(Friday 27 March 2020; 18:55)
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