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Eminem (94,690) by enwar00 from usa
Also, do we really think Eminem is sitting around scared or even thinking about Mariah's memoirs? Because that sounds like fake news to me. Insert shrug emoji.
(Friday 24 July 2020; 07:10)
Re: Nick (94,686) (94,689) by enwar00 from usa
Does anyone else not even read these super long essays that don't even have to do with Mariah anymore? Maybe I'm the only one, and I'm ok with that.
(Friday 24 July 2020; 07:05)
Debut remixes (94,688) by Bill from the UK
So whilst the debut remixes don't hold a candle to what would come later, I am very pleased to now have some 12" exclusives digitally. The Sample Dub Mix of TGTBAW was only ever released on vinyl before, and the dubs and the bonus beats being now digitally available for Someday is amazing. Being the completest and geek and perfectionist I am though, my only annoyances are these:

1. There another "Pianoapercaloopapella" released on the European maxi single which is about a minute longer that hasn't been included.
2. TGTBAW has mistitled the "Vocal Club Mix" as the "Vocal Dub Mix". The remix titling did get confusing for that release though, which some having "Alt" prefixed, even though they were the same as the remix without it.

But, to have these now available to stream and purchase as remix EPs is brilliant, and let's all pray she continues this for the other singles. There are some exceptionally rare or vinyl exclusives out there and The Remixes compilation did fall short in a lot of ways.

Please MC reach out to me to be your remix consultant lol.
(Friday 24 July 2020; 06:45)
Eminem (94,687) by We are Lambily from USA
Edward, he did release some of the supposedly "voicemails" and what the lambily found out was him using clips of her interviews. A person who is credible wouldn't do that.

Also what more can she say, her song became a global hit while his barely sold gold.

Also let's talk about how [Nick] challenged him 1 on 1 and how he cowardly declined. He loves to argue with female pop stars like the little *itch he is.
(Friday 24 July 2020; 06:23)
Re: Nick (94,681) (94,686) by Bill from the UK
Really? I found the post incredibly conceited.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 23:14)
Re: Nick (94,681) (94,685) by Timothy from USA
Thanks Terna and We Are Lambily.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 22:01)
Re: Nick (94,681) (94,684) by Timothy from USA
I am still getting used to how to message in here after all these years. Also, if you have a guide for how to use the board in general, like linking articles and posting your pic, can you email it to me. Thanks. [Webmaster: Just click on "edit account" on the top and you can change your avatar. If you want an article to be linked, just give the address in your post and I will link it for you.]
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 22:00)
Re: New Book (94,679) (94,683) by Lee from USA
Well, I don't believe anything that pill popper thinks. If she protested, she would have things a lot worse, especially in that time of her life. He's still feenin, though. Here's to another stint in rehab for Shady.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 21:58)
Re: New book (94,671) (94,682) by Terna from Nigeria
She already bodied him and literally ended his career with "Obsessed". I doubt there would be any mention of him in this book. Lol.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 21:41)
Re: Nick (94,659) (94,681) by Terna from Nigeria
Rarely do I read a post this lengthy and for some reason I did yours and i'm glad I did. Thank you for this message it gave me life and made my heart smile.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 21:26)
New book (94,680) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
Honestly what is the point of Eminem even being mentioned honestly? His people are only talking because he likes to feud with pop stars. He only feuds with rappers when he knows his white privilege will give him the upper hand. Honestly he does not deserve any shine at M’s expense. Paying him dust will be the best response she can give him just to show him that he no real impact on her life at all.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 20:03)
Re: New Book (94,675) (94,679) by Edward from USA
I don't think they had a relationship, but I do think they definitely had sex. Mariah started denying it because of the way Eminem came out about it, basically implying Mariah wasn't cool and a little crazy. I do believe everything he says on "The Warning" because Mariah went shut once Eminem threatened with releasing her voice messages, many of which he played in his show. If Mariah didn't have anything sexual with him, how does she know about "his little secret" which from "The Warning" we can deduced she's talking about "his premature ejaculation". I don't think there will be a chapter about him at all because if she now admits to having some sort of romantic situation with him, people would start questioning her credibility. If she does deny it, Eminem will definitely be back talking about it. So, I guess she'll leave him out, which would be a wise idea.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 18:03)
Re: New book (94,672) (94,678) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
I would bet good money that Mariah doesn't mention Eminem in the book. It would result in another very public slapback and potentially embarrassing reveal.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 16:37)
Re: New book (94,674) (94,677) by Bobby A from United States
We already know what it is. He should go write another song for his next album and don't worry about it.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 16:35)
Re: Nick (94,668) (94,676) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Seriously cannot be bothered to read any of that.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 16:34)
Re: New Book (94,675) by Cat from USA
I think Em already told us the secret in "The Warning".
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 16:17)
Re: New book (94,673) (94,674) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Lol. His little secret. I want to know it. Tell us Mariah.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 15:00)
Re: New book (94,671) (94,673) by Musti from UK
Well M did say she has his "little secret".
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 08:34)
Re: New book (94,671) (94,672) by Bill from the UK
It would be hilarious if Mariah didn't even mention him at all in the book. Just to highlight how insignificant he was to her.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 08:22)
New book (94,671) by Lee from USA
If Slim Shady is so worried about an book that hasn't been released yet, then he needs to the truth.
(Thursday 23 July 2020; 00:22)
Jump Smokers (94,670) by G.G. from USA
Does anyone know where I can find all the remixes that The Jump Smokers did for the Memoirs album? I used to have them, and can't find them anywhere. Thanks.
(Wednesday 22 July 2020; 23:05)
MIAM (94,669) by Bobby A from United States
Today is going to be a MIAM day. I remember it coming out and I was playing all day that hot summer in Nashville 2014. To me MIAM is Mariah's most technical album in terms of how she uses her voice throughout the album. Heavenly shows that MC is one of the greatest vocalist ever. To me, Caution lacked those technical vocals. I hope her next album returns her to the Butterfly/Daydream eras.
(Wednesday 22 July 2020; 19:52)
Re: Nick (94,663) (94,668) by Timothy from USA
Oh Andrew. I think because you are so used to people being combative with you on this forum, you read my previous post with a perceived tone that wasn't as severe as you took it. I have always told you I have no desire to argue with you or anybody else on this board. I have read posts on this board for some time and I did think it was nice that you made a "well-intentioned" apology to Licia. I am certainly aware you don't do it often however, your message was public and the apology was served for all of us to read with some pretty sweeping judgement about BLM. I didn't write my last post looking for an apology.

At first I was pretty upset by your earlier post. I don't get upset easily. But then I just felt bad for you and I took accountability for obviously riling your up. You were making an effort to apologize and I allowed a few weeks of reading news articles filled with nasty comments by some trolls to lead me to jump to a conclusion when I saw some of the same language like "victimization" etc in your post. So, by the time I got to your post on this website, I probably gave you more than you deserved for trying to apologize to someone you respect.

I am secure enough and man enough to acknowledge I am a junior executive who skims a lot all day. I skimmed your post and thus I apologize for not thoroughly reading and then attempting to invalidating your apology. In truth, that post was for Licia and Licia only to comment on.

Having said that, there are a few things I want to clear up.

First, I don't really think it's creepy to see several different pics of the same person, over a decade's time and mention they are attractive. Labeling someone a pretty boi might be a cultural thing for me that sounds like a bigger compliment in print than saying it in passing. I wasn't hitting on you or asking you out. When I referenced "build on" I meant dialog on the board. In fact, in the past, I noticed that someone was able to disarm your defense mechanism to launch into combat mode by throwing a little flattery in there. Whatever disagreement you were having shifted to you exchanging emails. (I was skimming that too so that is what I thought I read.) That wasn't the outcome I was looking for in this case but I did want you to relax and really understand the point I was making about bias. Alas, that didn't occur.

Secondly, I never had a problem with you pointing out the struggles of Jewish people but you presented it comparatively, which is harmful.

Thirdly, I try and operate with a sense that all people are good and decent at their core and therefore, lately I am working on assuming positive intent, no matter the packaging. So, with that being said, if I assume that you are a good and decent person underneath all the vitriol, then I think I should share with you that a textbook example of White Supremacy is immediately labeling the person discussing bias as a racist themself. So, I will assume you didn't know that and that you deduced me talking about Mariah bias as labeling you a racist, which couldn't be further from my point.

A deeper study and understanding of all of this would lead us to the conclusion that racism is an action; it is the system of oppression that results from prejudice and bias. Racism requires a position of power or authority in a given situation to create actions and facilitate systems of oppression. So, by that definition, neither of us could deduce the other is a racist from our exchange. To reinforce my previous point on intrinsic bias, I want to clarify that bias can most times be subconscious and not have malice. It is often the result of images and narratives in media and teachings from one's home or immediate environment. The older woman who jumps when she sees me as a black man with a football build next to her in a Buckhead Atlanta supermarket isn't a racist. Her intrinsic bias leads her to believe that I am something to fear. Thus, if I pointed out you being biased against Mariah, it could be unintended or unknowing. I think we all owe each other the benefit of the doubt.

Now on the matter of this "white boy shut up". I read my post again three times looking for that. I am direct and I don't allude to anything so I like my words to be taken at face value. I do wonder if that was projection on your part as many of your posts can be summarized as you telling someone they are dumb and to shut up. This is a chat board. If we shut up there would be no point. And I like Adult Contemporary music like most people who were around in the 90s. I paid hundreds of dollars for Celine tickets lol, so I don't think Adult Contemporary is a defined race. And Eurocentricity has its place. Who doesn't like a great, sweeping period epic? It just should not be held as the gold standard when someone chooses to do something different is my point.

Now, don't take this wrong. But you did bring it up just because I used a standard title, commonly associated with the presidency of the United States. If we are to understand that Briton is a common wealth and it's citizens/subjects recognize a sovereign (even if only ceremonially), who is God's representation on earth, who requires that you show her deference in her presence, then that is at least reinforcing the idea that some bloodlines have more value than others. I get the impression that Queen Elizabeth is a nice woman. However, it is a fact that British monarchs enriched themselves through hundreds of years of imperialism and subjugating other cultures, under the belief they were savages that didn't deserve control or ownership of their own land or resources (America has its own sordid last with genocide and slavery obviously). So while you may enjoy all of your freedoms in your homeland, there may be variations of liberty around the rest of the common wealth, meaning a member of the commonwealth's freedom may sometimes have an asterisk next to it.

Lastly, Andrew, you give a lot of didactic feedback about argument validity, intelligence, etc. As someone who did win a state-wide debate award or two, I learned a long time ago that substantive points should stand on their own, without subjectivity. So, I challenge you to try, even if just for a week, to make your counterpoints to someone on this board without questioning their intelligence, being petty, or attempting to marginalize and belittle them. That way, your points will be more clear and people will understand your messages for their true intentions, often with valid points, without the unnecessary, and frankly draining, sideshow.

I have been a smart guy my whole life. Gifted since kindergarten. But a very hard childhood, filled with perhaps more than my fair share of trauma, caused me to build a wall and use my intelligence as a defense mechanism to protect me like an armor against all those perceived enemies. That was a draining way to live. Thankfully, I had the unique privilege in my young adulthood in Atlanta of spending time with some great men who happened to be national civil rights heroes like Rev. Joseph Lowry and the recently departed Rep. John Lewis. From them I learned some valuable lessons in character and humility. From really applying those lessons in humility later in adulthood came the six figure job and the quality relationships and of course, the bad bitches. It made all the difference.

So, I really don't know you Andrew. But like all of us, you have a choice, you can respond to this balanced, subjectivity-free attempt at dialog with your same, well-branded animosity, or you can make a different choice. Whatever that next chapter is for you, there is always a choice.

I hope that all of us use this unique time in our public discourse on race to really make an effort to not just listen, but to hear each other, as we have much to learn from our opposing viewpoints.

Be well, TLB
(Wednesday 22 July 2020; 04:46)
Re: Someday Live Debut (94,664) (94,667) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
If there were a live recording of the Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour and this was released, I would die, also.

Best party night of my life. And most professional and well crafted concert Mariah has ever done, in my humble.
(Tuesday 21 July 2020; 21:53)
Always Too Beautiful (94,665) by Bill from the UK
Check out this excellent fan remix of Always Be My Baby and Beautiful.
(Tuesday 21 July 2020; 18:12)

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