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Re: MC30 wants (94,732) (94,740)
by Bobby A from United States
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If MC worked with The Runners like I heard she did during the TEOM recording sessions, I would love to hear those tracks along with the finished version of When I Feel Need.
(Tuesday 28 July 2020; 22:53)
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Charmbracelet (94,739)
by Bobby A from United States
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I shop at a lot of used CD stores. [Charmbracelet] is the only CD that I never see in bin. I guess that means that people are holding on to [Charmbracelet] than any other Mariah Carey CD. Is it still MC's 3rd lowest selling album behind MIAM and Caution?
(Tuesday 28 July 2020; 22:48)
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Re: Hero melody / MC30 wants (94,735) (94,738)
by Edward from USA
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Crystal Ball and the project with Prince never happened because of schedule conflicts. She has "After Tonight" with Luis Miguel, but I doubt he'll allow that to happen since he didn't like his take on it. I would like to hear "Yours" with Justin Timberlake though.
(Tuesday 28 July 2020; 20:28)
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Re: Hero melody / MC30 wants (94,731) (94,737)
by ADAM from USA
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We have the same taste. I love these performances as well. I've come to really love her raspy texture and ad-libs that are different from the actual recordings. Much more satisfying. I remember initially hating the Jamaica concert and now in 2020 I can't watch it enough. I love all her ad-libs and sound of her voice. She was in great shape that night and is really very funny. How I wish the entire concert was recorded. It's very hard to find long videos of Heartbreaker and Emotions. Fingers crossed she does it again in Jamaica.
(Tuesday 28 July 2020; 16:33)
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Re: Hero melody / MC30 wants (94,735) (94,736)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I always wondered how that song would've sounded like, as I love Lauryn Hill as well. However I don't think they even got together to record the song as I recall Mariah insinuating Lauryn's people kinda blocked her out.
(Tuesday 28 July 2020; 14:44)
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Re: Hero melody / MC30 wants (94,734) (94,735)
by Bill from the UK
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Can we add Crystal Ball with Lauryn Hill to the mix as well? I loved her Miseducation album and played that to death back in the day.
(Tuesday 28 July 2020; 11:55)
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Re: Hero melody / MC30 wants (94,730) (94,734)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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"The Crave Song, The Wedding Song, Mariah's Lillie's Blues, To The Sky, Can You Hear Me, Hypnotized, Distant Lover, Panic The City, Love Can Never End, Satisfy with MJ, Prince songs. "
Just thinking about those songs makes me thrilled. Lol I knew she has all those unreleased songs, but never knew there was one with MJ. I need to hear all of this.
(Tuesday 28 July 2020; 10:47)
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Where are you Christmas (Mariah version) (94,733)
by Nicole from US
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I dunno if someone already wished for this but I hope she would continue to release the rarities all the way until December (or maybe earlier). I am dying to hear her version.
(Tuesday 28 July 2020; 08:29)
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MC30 wants (94,732)
by Lafa from Sweden
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Unreleased Butterfly album songs? Mariah would never. She should share. Give it to me.
(Monday 27 July 2020; 23:46)
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Re: Hero melody / MC30 wants (94,730) (94,731)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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That second version of WBT is better than the original. Or maybe I'm saying that because I've over-played the original. But I love Mariah's live melody switch-ups. It is the mark of someone with music running through them. One of my favourites is this where, although not the best performance, the last "but they cant that away from..." at 3:45 is beautiful and really actually conveys the emotional meaning of what she is singing.
(Monday 27 July 2020; 22:50)
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Hero melody / MC30 wants (94,730)
by Anonymous from UK
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I like the Hero melody. I'm reminded of the time she performed in Jamaica, and although she was drunk af, she was free and sang an alternate version of the 2nd verse of WBT.
R.e. Wants for MC30 (though many are highly unlikely to happen): 1. The original demo tapes (guessing now we're not getting them) 2. Everything Fades Away, Slipping Away, There for Me, Never too far/Hero for digital release. 3. Mariah solo demo for original version of OSD 4. The Crave Song, The Wedding Song, Mariah's Lillie's Blues, To The Sky, Can You Hear Me, Hypnotized, Distant Lover, Panic The City, Love Can Never End, Satisfy with MJ, Prince songs. anything unreleased 5. Complete digital Butterfly remix EP 6. Underneath The Stars video 7. Alternate AYNAF video 8. FLAB remix 9. What exists of Beautiful Remix video 10. A Peak at the lullaby album recorded for Roc and Roe (very unlikely) 11. Any Christmas outtakes and session stuff 12. Last Night a DJ Saved my Life (and all videos) for YouTube 13. Mariah's Where Are You Christmas 14. The IKWYW part 2 (where I belong) 15. Lover Boy Firecracker version.
(Monday 27 July 2020; 18:38)
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Re: New Hero melody (94,724) (94,729)
by ADAM from USA
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I love this new melody too. It gave me chills. Wish she would incorporate it into a live performance. It's much more emotional and interesting to hear esp with her post-2000 voice. Maybe she'll read this post and adjust accordingly lol.
(Monday 27 July 2020; 16:10)
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Brandy - Rather Be (94,728)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Brandy is dropping her seventh album and first major release in 8 years this Friday. Right now there doesn't seem to be much hype about it, but this track, while short and decidedly more of a deep cut than single material, showcases that unique earthy tone of hers. A collaboration between her and Mariah would be perfect especially with the latter's current, matured voice. I've always thought One Mo' Gen would suit Brandy's voice and harmonies well.
(Monday 27 July 2020; 15:34)
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Re: Hopes for MC30 (94,725) (94,727)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Bill great list. "In short, just give us everything lol." That's how I think too.
(Monday 27 July 2020; 13:40)
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Re: Hopes for MC30 (94,725) (94,726)
by Bill from the UK
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One major ommission, the European legs of the Daydream tour digitally released. Either as video or just the audio in HQ.
(Monday 27 July 2020; 13:24)
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Hopes for MC30 (94,725)
by Bill from the UK
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Great post R-A. My wants are as follows:
1. The demo tape in its raw, what-Tommy-heard format. 2. Alternative takes and cutting room snippets as per All In Your Mind. 3. Any recorded yet unreleased songs, either in demo or finished format (Can You Hear Me). 4. Remix EPs for all main single releases. 5. The whole back catalogue re-issued on 180g vinyl, in beautiful gatefold sleeves. 6. All official music videos (including remix versions). Most are on iTunes anyway so it's just packaging those up and filling any gaps (the scrapped Vision of Love, Underneath the Stars). 7. The First Vision and Thanksgiving Special available digitally.
In short, just give us everything lol.
(Monday 27 July 2020; 11:42)
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New Hero melody (94,724)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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This is short but amazing. Mariah does a different melody for "sorrow that you know" in Hero that I have never heard or even imagined in 27 years. It's really, really beautiful.
(Monday 27 July 2020; 04:29)
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Re: From the vaults (94,722) (94,723)
by Tevin from USA
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I love reading everyone's predictions and wants, but unless I missed it, nobody mentioned that we want the Underneath the Stars music video.
(Monday 27 July 2020; 03:45)
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Re: From the vaults (94,721) (94,722)
by Bobby A from United States
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Gee Whiz Karen. Is that the best you can say? You criticize everybody for their comments and predictions. And you don't think your harsh and critical rhetoric isn't starting to bore us to death. Your eight month sabbatical in 2018 was refreshing to us all who held down the forum while you got yourself together. However, I see you haven't turned from your mean and critical ways. Bullies in the schoolyard when they fall they fall hard.
(Monday 27 July 2020; 00:17)
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Re: From the vaults (94,716) (94,721)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Jeez, Louise. You predict and predict with absolutely no rhyme or reason. FFS. What on Earth is the point of all this?
(Sunday 26 July 2020; 20:45)
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America The Beautiful (94,720)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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I dunno. I'm not the greatest fan of the debut era, so the jewels from the vault are good but not really for me. I decided to watch Mariah's America The Beautiful again to get into the spirit and found I'd watched it over twenty times in a row before I realised how much time I was spending on it. The high note and the change in crowd reaction chokes me up a little bit. It's a good recovery from having the camera focus on the guy with the fat neck for far, far too long.
(Sunday 26 July 2020; 20:36)
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Re: From the vaults (94,716) (94,719)
by cBerr from Canada
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I like where you're going with that "want list". My hope is for a few specific items from various eras;
1. Merry Christmas - All Joy To The World mixes, extended or alternate cuts (we all know about those vocal outtakes that leaked). Plus her version of "Where Are You Christmas?"
2. Daydream - The "Crave" song. She's had albums with the Parental Advisory label, so she can drop the act. Also, a BluRay of the undubbed Rotterdam concert. I've seen bootleg footage, there were cameramen all over that stage recording. In a pinch, I'll accept the dubbed Tokyo concert on BluRay. Lol.
3. Butterfly - Full remix bundles for Honey and The Roof (including vinyl only cuts).
4. Glitter - Remixes for "Never Too Far/Hero" plus unused tracks if any - including "Loverboy" (original Firecracker version).
5. Rainbow - All remixes for CTTA (including the Morales Harmonica Dub if it exists), Petals (Pound Boys) and Against All Odds (Pound Boys).
6. Charmbracelet - All remixes for Through The Rain, Bringin' on the Heartbreak and The One (and Boy if she has the time).
7. TEOM - Unreleased tracks plus those remixes for "Fly Like A Bird" especially that R&B remix she teased with Melonie Daniels.
8. MIAM - The dance remixes to #Beautiful.
I know the book comes out on the 29th, but I see these #MC30 celebrations going past that. She has way too many "eras".
(Sunday 26 July 2020; 19:51)
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folklore (94,718)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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I won't usually make the comparison as Mariah and Taylor are 2 different artists, but I feel like if 1989 was Taylor's Daydream, then "folklore" is her Butterfly. The girl can write. Really well. Which is sadly even more of a rarity these days.
The new album is one of the best projects to be born out of this quarantine. Stripped down and low-key, it's the perfect reset button on Taylor's career, especially to those who reckon that she may have gone too far into pop. It's one of those albums whose songs would tend to blend into each other upon initial listen and would need repeated plays for each of the tracks to flesh out their own stories and differentiate themselves from the others. It's an overall subdued experience where every single song sounds fresh yet familiar at the same time. To those who love their Taylor with the bombast of her last 4 albums, they'll be disappointed with her subtler approach to choruses on this one. It's proof that Taylor's at her best when doesn't need to rely on hype and controversial songwriting to make a huge splash. Call it bland, boring, harmless background music - it's still a welcome change from the mindless teduim of hip-hop beats that dominated the charts for the last 7 months. It's perfect for long drives that call for a batch of songs that can easily be picked as movie soundtracks, or serve as nice silence-filler for reflective moments spent in solitude, or make for a mellow backdrop conducive for work-from-home arrangements. And pre-COVID those may have been considered negatives, but the forced isolation has sure given us a lot of time to collectively appreciate the simpler, quieter moments in life.
What's most impressive about all of this, though, is how despite it being her least promoted release, Taylor remains on brand as possibly the best businesswoman in music since Madonna. Even at her supposedly least calculated, she still is very strategic. There are still generous sprinkles of her usual easter eggs here and there left for her fans to decipher. The video for the first single "cardigan" is one of the more impressive visual productions to come out during this pandemic when pretty much everything else by contrast has been mostly low budget, sporting a very DIY-feel. While most of us would need upbeat, sunny bangers whose contrast from the current overall global situation serves to distract us from this very weird year, Taylor chose to lean into the sadness with relatively somber to even heavy lyrics against light, understated production while keeping any change in tempo to a minimum. The lack of hype then becomes the hype. The lack of huge pop choruses lets people focus on the album's strengths which are the songwriting and delicate production. The lack of a meticulously planned album out rollout and promotion strategy plan in itself becomes the promotion. Even so, Taylor still manages to be her usual detail-oriented self - deliberately sequencing tracks like "the 1", "seven" and "august" as the first, seventh and eighth songs on the tracklist; telling a tale of teenage love broken into three tracks in the beginning, middle and last thirds of the album; managing to throw shade here and there while now being able to comfortably curse in her music, etc. She still goes the extra mile to ensure commercial success (as if having her name on it wasn't enough) by making a bonus track exclusively available through the physical release, which has 8 (yes, eight, because apparently she's Taylor and can be as extra as she can get to celebrate her eighth album) versions for the first week of release featuring different photos and artwork.
Predictable sales success aside, this is also universally lauded as her best and most mature effort to date and is already an obvious contender for AOTY should the Grammys push through next year. Props to her.
(Sunday 26 July 2020; 08:23)
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30th Anniversary (94,717)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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The roll-out of unreleased material in celebration of this milestone has been quite impressive especially considering the lackluster promotion of most of Mariah's material in the last decade. Loving all the outtakes and previously unreleased material and you can clearly see where she's coming from when she said that there were demo versions which she deems better and wishes should have made the album instead of those that did.
(Sunday 26 July 2020; 05:51)
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Re: From the vaults (94,715) (94,716)
by Bobby A from United States
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You are probably right. So, here is what I am predicting leading up to the The Meaning of Mariah book release on September 29th: 1. July 31st - Mariah Carey demos, leftover tracks and I Don't Wanna Cry - first take 2. August 7th - Emotions rare remixes Civilles and Cole extra tracks, video version of Emotions and left over tracks 3. August 14th - Music Box rare remixes Do You Think Of Me, Everything Fades Away and left over tracks 4. August 21st - Music Box - Proctor Theatre concert 5. August 28th - Daydream - Fantasy/ABMB rare remixes, Slipping Away remastered version and Madison Square Garden concert 6. September 4th - Butterfly - Rare remixes, alternate vocal versions and leftover tracks 7. September 11th - Rainbow- Heartbreaker/Can't Take That Away From Me remixes, and leftover tracks 8. September 18th - Chambraclet - Reaching For The Sky left over tracks and TEOM leftover tracks 9. September 25th - new ballads collection release with new songs and MC30 demos
(Sunday 26 July 2020; 03:49)
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