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Single or Not? (39,988) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia Okay so the debate for me wasn't really over it being a single. Ofcourse it's "technically" a single. It was whether it was meant to be this huge commercial single or whether it was just a song released to the public to tie the fans over until the official "album pushing" song is released with a video to back it up. When has Mariah ever released an "official" lead or second lead single without a video to back it up? I'm just saying. So yes it's a single that can be downloaded, but what was the intent? Did they do the radio deal to push it? Does she have a video scheduled to push it?Why would she do ten videos for #Beautiful and not one to push her second proper album pushing lead single? There's no logic behind that. It wouldn't even make sense for the label to do that if they wanted her to push the album. So unless Mariah herself comes on here and says otherwise. I maintain that her intent for TAOLG was for it to tie the fans over until the album is ready. I bet her next song she releases close around the album will have the single treatment and accompanying videol like #Beautiful did. (Monday 25 November 2013; 14:27)

TAOLG about Mottola (39,987) by Eternal from Italy As posters before me have already mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised if TAOLG was really about Tommy Mottola. Read here some extracts of his autobiography about Mariah. I guess for MC to feel such feelings even after 15 years shows that he really had a domineering influence over her ("just a brief little reminder to help myself remember I no longer live in your dominion"). He launched her rise to the top and crafted her downfall to breakdown ("somebody you used to know is flinging your world around and they watch as you're falling down"). And in his memoir, he even dared to make it sound as if his obsession with her was the ultimate key to her success ("your audacity is too much to be believed"). That's why it is the art of letting go, letting go of her own feelings towards her ex I guess, and to be immune to what he may say. Of course, we're all just guessing but since Mariah said this song was very "personal" to her, this just seems like the most plausible reason. (Monday 25 November 2013; 13:08)

Webmaster / TAOLG (39,986) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Yes, thank you, that was the point I was trying to make. If Mariah said she wanted her fans to hear just her voice over the piano (I probably missed that quote) she just probably meant that she finally gave the fans what they have been asking for, because recently everyone has been complaining that her songs are dominated by rappers and all. Fans wanted her to belt out a "classic Mariah" and that's what she did. As for the part that she never performed it anywhere, there are previous singles which weren't performed anywhere, not just by Mariah, but in case of other artists as well. If the song was a gift to just her fans, she wouldn't bother giving interviews to promote it, she could have just mentioned it on her twitter and facebook, which have more than enough followers. It does hurt me that the song didn't do good, it was raw and heartfelt. (I even liked Triumphant.) So like it or not, it was a single, it was probably meant for her album, but there is a chance it might be just turned into a stand alone single like Triumphant and maybe #Beautiful. There's no need to start a war on this. (Monday 25 November 2013; 12:16)

Awards (39,985) by Anonymous from I want to see Mariah compete at awards show, like Grammy, or AMA. But maybe it's hard to see Mariah there again and win some awards. (Monday 25 November 2013; 11:41)

Re: Lamb_O_Chop (39,984) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands The Art Of Letting Go is considered a single. Here is what Wikipedia writes: "The Art Of Letting Go is a song recorded by American singer-songwriter Mariah Carey that was released on November 11, 2013, as the second single from the album of the same name." Here is what Rolling Stone wrote on November 11: "Pop singer Mariah Carey released a new single today." Here is what Billboard wrote: "After much anticipation, Mariah Carey releases her latest single." Here is the definition of a single: "In music, a single or record single is a type of release, typically a song recording of fewer tracks than an LP record or an album. This can be released for sale to the public in a variety of different formats. In most cases, the single is a song that is released separately from an album, but it usually appears on an album. Often, these are the most popular songs from albums that are released separately for promotional uses such as digital download or commercial radio airplay, and in other cases a recording released as a single does not appear on an album." Whether you like it or not, but TAOLG is a single in every sense of the word. I can understand you don't want to call it a single because it flopped, but whether a single flops or reaches number 1, it remains a single. (Monday 25 November 2013; 11:25)

Lamb_O_Chop (39,983) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I am not among the people who are calling it a flop. I even wrote before that I liked it. So please don't just assume things. I am not "trying to make it a flop", I don't represent the world. The Fallon performance was Fallon's idea, not Mimi's. What I am saying is that the song was meant to be a proper single, but for some reason the label dropped it cold. I love Mimi as much as you, but you can't just overlook the fact that recently her management has been bad. (Monday 25 November 2013; 10:19)

TAOLG lyrics (39,982) by Elena from The Netherlands Some people doubt that this song is about Tommy because it's relatively too long ago to still have issues about him. Within the past four years Tommy released his autobiography where he talks about Mariah. He also did some interviews about the book and they all asked about Mariah's part in the book. She didin't really respond to it publicly, so I believe she blew off some steam on this song. It's still haunting her in a way. The "lies" she refers to are probably about the parts in the book and the interviews Tommy did. He also pushes the part where he build her career and I think she feels frustrated about it because she has continuously tried to defend herself from her Cinderella image and that she wouldn't be succesful without him. She also really wants people to know that she writes and produces her own songs so badly because she wants credit for her own success, which I understand. The song is about him but maybe also about her sister Alisson whom she doesn't speak to untill this day and she is legally not allowed to speak about her in public. So I can understand why she would still express her anger and sadness about this in her songs, bacause it's the only way for her to still talk about this in a sense. (Monday 25 November 2013; 8:22)

Ariana Grande giving me nostalgia (39,981) by Matthew from USA Ariana Grande went on stage at the AMA's in a sparkling red gown. She sang a simple ballad with almost no production or background noise. It was beautiful. Everyone is raving about the performance online, and the song will be her next single. It made me happy, because it reminded me of when Mariah would just walk out on stage and sing. It also made me sad, because I can't remember the last time she did that. And the impromptu performances where she is riffing and making up lyrics as she goes along does not count. Come out on stage in a nice dress, let the applause die, let the lights go low, then sing a song from start to finish live. Then watch as the single goes to #1. It should be so easy to do, but there's bales of hay to lie down on, Versace dresses to pop out of, rappers to make you feature on your own song, spinning set pieces and props and overbearing production and camera angles to get just right and beaded and feathered slings. Lol. I guess when you are The Voice it's not so easy to just come out and sing the damn song. We know she can do it. But the rest of the world needs reminding every now and then. That type of live performance is what makes record labels willing to spend money on you. (Monday 25 November 2013; 7:49)

[...] (39,980) by Edouard from USA Someone have posted here before, I guess a guy from Singapore who claimed he has connections on To Mariah's team. He did said alot of "debatable" stuff about MC and her team, but I guess he is making sense now. Nobody believed him, I once doubted his words. But I guess his sources were legit. I hope he could give us more info of what to expect of this era. I remember him saying that before Christmas MC will release something (song) accompanied by a gimick re her marriage or anything that will be a talk of a town. Then redirect to the Christmas catalog. He did mentioned too that MC is currently in trouble with IDJ management and that album was on hold until legal acts had its toll against "breaching of contract". I guess he is correct. (Monday 25 November 2013; 4:49)

Mimi L. from Bangledesh (39,979) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia Mariah said it was for the lambs that wanted to hear her sing over a piano with just vocals. The better question would be: what makes you think it was meant to be a huge single when she never mentioned anything about a video and hasn't performed it anywhere, but for who? The lambs in an intimate environment on Jimmy Fallon. Who does that when they really want a song to be huge? I'll wait. She released it to iTunes so it'll be available to the fans or whoever else wanted it. The song obviously hasn't been given the single treatment because it's simply wasn't meant to be an official single. I don't have to justify anything, the proof is in the pudding darling. So stop trying that make it a flop, how about that? (Monday 25 November 2013; 4:32)

Arianna / AMA (39,978) by B from USA Arianna is trying to be Mariah. The big hair, the big voice, and the sequins. She's an impersonator. She's not as good as Mariah was, but she is good. She seems to like being compared to MC. Her dress was a red version of Mimi's silver ensemble from the GMA performance. She has good taste or her manager does, lol. She to find her own voice and stop immatating MC. Often immitated, never duplicated. (Monday 25 November 2013; 2:56)

Mariah Carey and TAOLG (39,977) by Terna from Nigeria [...] I deduce that this song is about Tommy. She talked about a certain emotion being strong and present on the track when she was interviewed on CNN. Well, its definitely [...] I sense as I listen, [...] too. It's just as [...] as the whole Memoirs album was. Tommy must've hurt her real bad for her to still be dwelling on it after all this time. She even seems different now. That carefree spirit she had kinda like a child is not really there anymore, she even said so herself something about the Industry. (Sunday 24 November 2013; 18:12)

Lamb_O_Chop (39,976) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Who told you it was released "for the fans"? We need to stop justifying the horrid management/promotional arrangement of this era by saying repeatedly that Mariah released it for the fans. She did interviews with CNN and other well known shows to promote the song, then she also went on Fallon, the single was released in iTunes and given a single treatment right up until it was released. Right after that she went cold with it. Now there is no word on it. If she meant it for the fans, as a gift, she would have just said it. And obviously if she will release the album in February 2014, she needs to release singles to fill up the gap after #Beautiful. So nope, TAOLG was a proper single, but people in her camp are somehow screwing this era up. As for the video, Mariah previously released commercial singles without videos. (Sunday 24 November 2013; 18:08)

Edward (39,975) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I totally agree. At this point it is obvious that her relationship with IDJ is beyond strained. I think both parties know that it's over. It's her last album on her current deal. She won't re-sign, they won't promote her. There are clear creative differences too. I've always thought IDJ to be a Mickey Mouse label in any event, so I understand Mariah's frustrations. At the same time, Mariah needs to be more savvy and make better decisions. Bad decision making and a broken relationship with a label is not what Mariah needs right now. To me, Mariah seems lost at this point in her career. She doesn't seem like she has clue re what direction to take, 3 managers in a year is a clear indicator. Two of the managers are her long time friends, again a questionable decision. I know everyone will say, she's survived this many years, knows better than us, blah blah blah. It's all bullshit, she clearly doesn't have a clue. We all lose our way with regards to our careers in certain respects. Mariah is no different. Mariah needs to strip back, re focus and start again. She needs a whole new team, and people who can say no. This past 18 months have been horrible. (Sunday 24 November 2013; 16:15)

TAOLG (39,974) by clueey23 from USA It's not that deep. I'm just happy to have new music. In case you all that are complaining haven't noticed, this isn't the 90s nor is it the 2000s, it's the 2010s and things have changed in the music industry. When it comes to releasing music, there are no rules anymore. MC is doing just fine. And when it's time we will know. Do you know how many songs got the single treatment and still didn't impact the charts the way TAOLG has? TAOLG is not a flop. It's far from over, listen to her on American Dad. See her on two Christmas specials and gear up for a 2014 album release. I played the song TAOLG for a few people and also showed them her private performance because a friend of mine from Texas brought up the BET Awards and how they could've only imagined what I was thinking in that moment. And I said those are her vocals regardless and played the new material and live material and they were left with their mouths on the floor. And just as I thought. MC releases a song with great lyrics and Beyonce follows suit with a song for her DVD release of the HBO special. Her song is even less radio friendly in my opinion. But it is great to hear a singer sing about something other than partying, money, and sex. I think, pray and hope the music is about to shift from what it is today to where it could've gone if it wasn't hijacked in the past decade. (Sunday 24 November 2013; 15:32)

Hot shot debut (39,973) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway TAOLG is hot shot debut on both RnB Songs and Rnb/hip hop digital song, what are people here complaining about? Tell me. (Sunday 24 November 2013; 6:53)

Wikipedia (39,972) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway If you guys look at Mariah's singles discography on Wikipedia, you will notice that the E=MC2 era wasnt that bad. Actually, in Japan it's one of her most profound eras in her career. Considering her career being 18 years old in 2008, that is not bad at all. It's all about perspectives guys, #Beautiful was a decent hit in the Us, and now TAOLG is a decent hit on the rnb and hip hop charts. (Sunday 24 November 2013; 6:49)

Re: David (39,971) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I believe TAOLG is the second single. And if I'm going to make a wild guess, I believe a duet with Stevie Wonder will be the third single and I believe it's going to go viral. (Sunday 24 November 2013; 6:11)

David from Spain (39,970) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia Hunty, have you not been reading the board since your last comment? TAOLG was released for the fans, not for radio or to be a number one hit. So there won't be a video. If you like the song then just embrace it, if not then let it go. I know it ain't easy. (Sunday 24 November 2013; 5:13)

Really? Where is Mariah? (39,969) by Edward from USA At this point I think there are serious issues between Mariah and her label. I have the feeling something's up, and it is not good. Mariah drops a new single, comes back to complain about a mistake that most didn't notice, and disappears into thing air leaving us all rolling our eyes. I am concerned because even if Mariah has a great album ready to be released, all this mess has being killing the momentum. Why didn't she just release TAOLG as an album cut, why call it a single when it hasn't gotten the single treatment? Four effing years, and some dare say that she knows what she's doing as if she can't do no wrong! (Sunday 24 November 2013; 4:57)

I'm confused (39,968) by David from Spain I don't understand Mariah. TAOLG is a total flop. The label doesn't promote it. I'm very confused with this "album", because I don't know if this song is the first, second, or third single. (Saturday 23 November 2013; 23:45)

Re: wax figure (39,967) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Maybe it's like with the star on the walk of fame, maybe she doesn't want one, who knows? Do we really know anything? (Saturday 23 November 2013; 20:03)

Re: TAOLG (39,966) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway It's #7 on the South Korean charts, and #19 on Bubbling under Hot 100 chart. (Saturday 23 November 2013; 19:58)

TAOLG (39,965) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Without a proper release, TAOLG has become a moderate hit on US Billboard Hot rnb songs and rnb digital song. Who else could have achieved that? She was, is and allways will be the queen of the Billboard charts. (Saturday 23 November 2013; 19:51)

Wax figure (39,964) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Does anyone know why Mariah doesn't have a wax figure at Madame Tussauds? Even Paris Hilton and Miley Cyrus have one, but Mariah doesn't. Madonna and Michael Jackson and some others have multiple figures in each branch of Madame Tussauds. (Saturday 23 November 2013; 12:24)

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