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Re: Mimi L. (66,437) (66,445) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Dahlin' I only believed it because it came out of Mariah's mouth. This is the same woman who flat out denied hearing "Drunk In Love" on air. Plus she was seen listening to "Love Drought" while she was lounging around on the yacht. So I do think she listened to it. I will however agree that Beyonce's albums sell nowadays purely on hype. There are very few songs in it that are actually good. (Monday 19 September 2016; 0:05)

Re: Implants / push up bra (66,436) (66,444) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I think this happened around the "Heartbreaker"/Rainbow era. One look at that pink crochet top with her boobs basically hitting you in the face while she leaned over and shook it around and you just know that them babies got some work done. Hahha. I love the "Heartbreaker" video to death though. Easily my top 5. But I think that's when they were well enlarged. Then gradually it kept getting bigger (because of push up bras dahlin') and now we have the golden globes. Frankly I think with a smaller size of the globes, Mariah would look a lot thinner. I mean she basically has a snatched waist line and great legs so ya. (Monday 19 September 2016; 0:03)

Re: So flutter through the sky, Butterfly (66,434) (66,443) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter This is something I want to yell at lambs when they go like "Oh Mariah has been flashing skin since she took her dress off during Honey, so why are you getting bothered now? Because she is 46?" or stuff like "would you be surprised if Mariah did this at 20 instead of her 40s?" The Butterfly era sexiness has effortless, it's graceful, it's beautiful. It suits her. She had this weirdly awesome mixture of a sense of self dignity (where she knew she was a freaking super star) and yet looked so humble (that smile, so beautiful, so genuine). She wore many outfits that showed off her legs, her cleavage and a lot more, but it never looked trashy. Her beauty was unmatched, her confidence, through the roof. She had this beautiful combination of "strong independent woman" with a slight reflection of vulnerability (I swear I didn't realize I named 2 of her songs back to back). That made her the girl you can relate to and also the girl you would show respect to. Basically nothing during that time was forced, fake, harsh or "trying too hard". Now we have the fake orange tan, the weird lashes, the lingerie moments, the ugly fishnets, the fake smile, the bad wigs. Basically everything that screams "trying too hard". The main problem now is Mariah doesn't need to try so hard, she is still beautiful, she has a killer body, her legacy is still intact. No one is telling her to cover from head to toe. Take note from your 27 year old self Mariah. You are better than this, you are greater than this. Don't let your orange manager influence you. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 23:58)

Re: Mariah during the Butterfly era (66,428) (66,442) by Luke from United Kingdom I love that era too. The second photo you posted could be easily mistaken for a shoot from 1990. The only clue is her perfectly shaped brows she has from 1993-94 onwards. I wondered if she started wearing more make-up recently because of shooting the reality show and it's just something she's kept going. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 22:43)

Re: Getting MC back to the top of the charts (66,427) (66,441) by Daydream327 from USA Not so much of how the music sounds today because I'm sure she does listen to a lot of the current music but just how much the music industry has changed in terms of the way music is now being released and shared. We are in the digital age, going to the store and buying a physical CD is a thing of the past. Majority of sales now come from streaming and iTunes. People rarely listen to the radio as well. I believe even YouTube streams now count towards the Hot 100. And with such easy access to music nowadays it's so easy for people to listen to one song and quickly move on to the next. It's so much harder to stay relevant and current in today's music climate, because it's just so much music. Me personally I can attest to this because I'm a fairly young lamb (24) and purchase all my music from iTunes, and I also stream a lot of music on Apple Music and Tidal. Honestly, I can't see Mariah topping the charts again if she doesn't get on board with the times. Especially being that her fanbase has greatly decreased over the years, only 56k of her fans purchased her last album, that is a problem. It's sad because being the legend that she is she should have a core fanbase that will always support her music regardless of what the current trends in music are. Mariah has to start to build her fanbase back up. She has to stop waiting years to release new music, she can no longer do that and expect to move units. It's not the 90's/early 00's anymore and she doesn't have that strong devoted fanbase anymore. I'm just being real here. I'm all for Mariah releasing a couple of free EP's on Apple Music of new music or unreleased music. Or even doing some remixes to some current songs. This is a good start to gaining some hype behind her name again. She has to release music and not just music but amazing music, music that stands out, music that is catchy. She has to let go of her ego and realize she is not where she use to be career wise. And before anything she has to revamp her image. She needs a new stylist, a new manager, pretty much a whole new team. I don't know who works with Beyonce and Rihanna but whoever they are Mariah needs them on her team. If Mariah wants to appeal to younger audience being that they purchase majority of today's music she has to change a lot if not I can't see it happening. Most of Mariah's team are also very close friends with her, that is not good and it won't help her any. She needs a team who can be completely honest with her, I feel like that is exactly what she's missing and could be crucial in getting her back at the top. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 22:32)

Re: Why so melodramatic? (66,321) (66,440) by B from USA I'm hoping the docuseries focuses more on the tour and less on her recent antics and entourage. This series can silence the critics who say [...] can't sing and can make her more likeable. Or it can have the opposite effects. We'll see. The trailers have been promising. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 21:04)

Mariah back on Billboard (66,439) by Giovanni from USA We need another "Hero" or "Heartbreaker". Along with a decent video. I wish Mariah would tone down the make up, get a stylist and dress more modest. I'm so over the sexiness. It's getting old. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 19:22)

Butterfly era (66,438) by Giovanni from USA Although I'm not a fan of the "Butterfly" album, it is one of my favorite eras. Mariah looked gorgeous. The "Honey" video is epic. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 19:18)

Mimi L. (66,437) by Giovanni from USA Do you actually believe Mariah listened to Beyonce's album? She lied dahling. "Lemonade" is garbage. And to think some of her fans believe she deserves the Grammy for album of the year is hilarious. We all know Adele is going to win and is deserving of that Grammy. Unless someone else releases a more better album that actually sells. The media loves hyping up Beyonce's album sales. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 19:14)

Implants / push up bra (66,436) by Shezz from Pk So when exactly did the infamous boob job/push up bra as Mimi likes to call it happen? I remember watching one of her documentaries (also posted here previously) in which they said Tommy got Mariah a boob job around or before the Daydream era - they show them come together to an event and she suddenly looked heavier up there. But then seeing Mimi L's beautiful butterfly era pics you don't quite see it. Once I read she did it during the Rainbow era. Does anybody know when? Maybe she got them to where they are gradually over time? Sorry some of you might judge this to be a very shallow topic but since Mimi herself is clearly still obsessed with them how could we not? Lol. Just curious. Mimi herself denies ever getting it, right? (Sunday 18 September 2016; 19:04)

Re: Mariah during the Butterfly era (66,428) (66,435) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes, Mariah looked like a goddess. Thanks for sharing these beautiful pics. I loved everything on her at that time. What a beauty. She looked like the star she is and everthing was really on point. For me this is 100% Mariah. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 18:06)

So flutter through the sky, Butterfly (66,434) by Edward from USA During the "Butterfly era" there was this beautiful ethereal aura around Mariah I can't explain, it was just there. Nothing seemed forced during that time. Mariah was pure fire. It was not only the music, but the way she carried herself and the emotion in her voice. I love me some Daydream, actually it is an album I hold close to my hear, but Butterfly being a completely different sound and its many colors and depth totally captivated me. In numerous occasions some friends have asked me if Butterfly was a new CD, that they love this or that song. It is really timeless. No wonder it is listed as one of the albums you should listen to before you die. As Mimi L. already stated with those beautiful pics, Mariah was sexy, showing lots of skin at times, but she never looked as if she was trying too hard and far from trashy. It's not about her not showing skin, it is about doing it keeping in mind that she's a legend with lots of money to make things happen in a way that she could present herself as the best. Maybe she hasn't realized it yet, but her humble demeanor made her look somewhat innocent and much more beautiful. She was already filthy rich back then, but it was more believable to me when she sung deep songs then than when she does it now. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 17:07)

Re: Butterfly (66,421) (66,433) by Bill from the UK Tommy is a business man and if he didn't want to release Butterfly because of its subject matter, the entire project would have been shelved. Butterfly was released as a single internationally in several countries and got full remix treatment etc. Mariah has gone on record saying the reason only two singles got a "proper" release from that album was because the execs didn't want her streak of #1s to end as they were trying to beat Whitney's streak of 7. Butterfly in fact had more videos on rotation on MTV (Honey, Honey remix, Butterfly, My All, My All remix, The Roof, Breakdown) and more singles released globally than any subsequent album. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 16:41)

Taking risks (66,432) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Established artists such as MC have to be very careful about what risks they are willing to take musically without pushing their faithful listeners away. The reason I say this is because Usher's new album is on track to sell 30k first with a hit on radio he went in the lean and B direction and it has cost him big time. While I want MC to work with new producers and co-writers to freshen things up she needs to keep some of her usual collaborators around for the purpose of that classic MC sound. Honestly JD did great work with YDKWTD, and MILG from MIAM if you ask me while Memiors was great as far as cohesiveness the production become stale very quickly. What MC needs at this point musically and creativitly is balance old school ballad MC with minimal production and singing, and some great fun mid and up tempos with memorable hooks. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 16:33)

Re: Butterfly performance on SNL (66,430) (66,431) by Ty from USA She stood there dripping in pain, sang her heart out, while looking beautiful. Everyone likes the Grammys [...], but the SNL version of Butterfly is my performance. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 14:28)

Re: Butterfly performance on SNL (66,425) (66,430) by Merr Hasenan from Malaysia That's why the SNL performance is my favourite. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 13:25)

Mariah during the Butterfly era (66,428) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Mariah was possibly the most beautiful person on earth during the "Butterfly" era. Seriously the woman was a goddess and her beauty was unmatched. I was going through some of her candid photos and shoots and it's mesmerizing. She had minimal makeup and was stunning. So I thought of sharing some here. This was from one of her shoots. Ethereal beauty much? This is from the same shoot and it's possibly one of my favorite shoots ever. No orange tan, no harsh contours, no wonky eyes shadows, no ugly wigs. This is one of her rare semi edgy shoots, where she played up her makeup, and although she doesn't have a long bob cut here, I think she can totally rock her. Plus how did Vogue not knock her during this time? Losers. Now for some candid moment, how is this even fair? This is one of my favorite red carpet looks from her. Everything from the hair, to the makeup to the outfit was perfect. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 13:10)

Re: Getting MC back to the top of the charts (66,426) (66,427) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter She isn't actually clueless, because she said she listened to "Lemonade", she listened to Rihanna's new songs, she listened to The Weeknd, Fetty Wap and many more. The problem is her stubborn attitude when it comes to change. She is not willing to make changes unless she is the one starting something. Like with the "Fantasy" remix she started a new trend. So unless she is starting something new, she refuses to follow trends. She has said before I think, that she doesn't follow trends. But sometimes there's nothing wrong with following trends for 1-2 songs and release them as singles to attract the attention of the GP and then lure them into the album where she can include songs which she is more comfortable with. If she wants another successful era, she has to really break out and do something that she wouldn't do otherwise. But if she doesn't want it then we'll get more MIAMs, which for many reasons didn't get much attentions and then ultimately we don't hear her sing that album live anymore. It'll probably get ignored like "Glitter" from now on. (Clarifying here that I'm not saying MIAM is a bad album, I'm just saying there isn't anything there that she didn't do before, except #Beautiful.) "Infinity" would go unacknowledged by her too if she wasn't bound by the Vegas contract to use it in promos. Plus that's her most recent song so she is using it in promos since she already ignores all the songs from MIAM, if she had to choose any other song, she'd have to pick one from Memoirs. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 12:53)

Re: Getting MC back to the top of the charts (66,422) (66,426) by Daydream327 from USA I agree, Marissa. She has to drop Jermaine point blank period. She has to work with new writers and producers that will push her to take risks and get her out of her comfort zone. The problem is, Mariah has gotten so comfortable with Jermaine and her other long time collaborators that it's causing her to lack creativity and growth as a singer/songwriter. She is constantly trying to remake her older music and it just comes off as sounding dated and quite basic. She has to let go of her ego and get in the studio with new writers and producers, if not I can't see her new music doing well at all. It's funny because I was just listening to Breakdown and thinking just how fresh and current it sounds. It sounded so authentic and effortless as well, nothing like her recent records. She truly was at her creative peak during that time. Anywho, with that being said I really don't see any of this actually happening, especially seeing her in this current state. We can only hope she eventually realizes it's no longer the 90's/early 00's and her old formula just isn't gonna work. It's unfortunate because she honestly seems clueless of just how much the music industry has changed and it's not like she actually has a manager that has experience in the music industry. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 10:40)

Butterfly performance on SNL (66,425) by Ty from USA She looked beautiful, vocals were emotional, she was dripping in sex appeal. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 10:24)

Re: Butterfly (66,411) (66,424) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Ugh sorry I clearly wasn't thinking straight when I wrote that. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 9:33)

Re: Butterfly (66,419) (66,423) by Merr Hasenan from Malaysia After almost 20 years, Butterfly is always her best album. The videos are great. The story behind all three videos (Honey, Butterfly, My All) told us that the production was not half-cooked ideas. The Roof, with all the simplicity (limo, rain, rooftop) became one of her best music video ever. From the album cover to the productions to the live performances (my fav is Butterfly in SNL), Butterfly deserved its 20th anniversary celebration next year. Columbia should released more singles commercially to accompany the album. 8 months gap between Honey and My All was a total waste. They should released Close My Eyes in between or just push Butterfly to the top after Honey. Before its upcoming sweet 20 next year, let us celebrate Emotions' 25th birthday. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 4:41)

Getting MC back to the top of the charts (66,422) by Marissa from USA In my opinion, Mariah only has 3 musical routes that she can take to get back to the top of the charts in today's musical climate without compromising her musical integrity are: an infectious pop summer jam, a sultry, baby-making song a la The Weeknd's "Earned It" or a raw, honest stripped down love song a la Hello by Adele. Everything else is bullshit. Another "hip-pop" collaboration isn't going to cut it because she keeps working with here today, gone tomorrow rappers. People don't realize that the Fantasy remix and IKWYW worked for MC, not just because she was working with rappers, but because she was working with legendary, one-of-a-kind, hip-hop veterans. If she's not gonna get people of that caliber, I say forget it. I'm tired of half-assed wannabe Fantasy remix revivals. I'm fine with MC doing a love song as a single but she must (caps) let go of this WBT formula that has yet to get her another #1 for a ballad since then. WBT was great but times have changed and she needs to take a new approach. When Mariah did step out of her comfort zone, we got the brilliance of Meteorite. As we could see with VOL, the Fantasy remix and Meteorite, when Mariah gets into that trailblazing state of mind, the music is untouchable. When she sticks with formulas and creates songs that remind her of her past work, it's basically a guarantee that the given song won't even break the top 20 on the charts. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 4:14)

Re: Butterfly (66,417) (66,421) by B from USA I never said that. It is well known that Tommy didn't want to release Butterfly because of the subject matter and that he sabotaged Glitter. Mariah has made some mistakes. Her decision to barely raise her voice above a whisper during the recording of Charmbracelet, releasing Triumphant, hiring Stella, and allowing unflattering images to be uploaded to her social media accounts to name a few. Almost forgot to mention still working with KB and refusing to hire a stylist with style. Unlike you I focus on the positives. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 4:01)

Re: Butterfly (66,417) (66,420) by B from USA US Radio Songs (Billboard) #16 US Adult Contemporary (Billboard) #11 US Adult Top 40 (Billboard) #35 US Dance Club Songs (Billboard) #13 US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard) #14 US R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay (Billboard) #27 US Rhythmic (Billboard) #8 Receipts, darling. (Sunday 18 September 2016; 3:33)

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