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Article: Mariah Carey's grunge album release date revealed (112,661) by Dove from United States I'm excited to hear it. I don't think she'll tour it and I'm fine with that. (Saturday 13 December 2025; 01:21)

Mariah Carey: Merry Christmas to All (112,651) by Dove from United States I'm watching this Christmas concert from 2022 and I'm on the part where little Monroe sings with Mariah and she is so adorable. I love that Mariah got to be a mom. I think Rocky and Monroe would be good celebrities. They're Tauruses so they are good with business and aren't super emotional. Taurus people like quality, so we can get kind of snobby. As long as they stay grounded and humble I think they'll do well. The worst thing to see in famous people are ones who have no concept of what it's like to struggle or ones who have visible contempt for regular people. I don't follow The Kardashians but of course I know who they are because they're everywhere. I saw a reel/short of Kris yelling at her driver like he was less than human and it turned me off to her. She tries to come off like a kind and good person but a kind and good person wouldn't do that. Some missionary trips would be beneficial, I think. I can tell in their little faces that they're kind-hearted. I would hate for them to lose that. (Thursday 11 December 2025; 11:59)

Article: "Here For It All Holiday Special" to stream live (112,649) by Dove from United States I probably won't. I might opt out this year. I honestly don't want to give these people any more of my money. I think I'll be listening to a lot of CDs and reading more books in 2026. (Thursday 11 December 2025; 01:22)

Serious question (112,648) by Dove from United States Ha ha. It took me a minute to get the Keith Sweat reference. Then he sang it in my head. (Thursday 11 December 2025; 00:49) this is a reply to message 112,639

Serious question (112,639) by Bobby A from United States Keith Sweat said nobody. Lol. I think he is right. Celine has never come close in her career because she is not a songwriter. Kelly Clarkson could have been if she didn't start her talk show. (Wednesday 10 December 2025; 11:28)

Article: "Here For It All Holiday Special" to stream live (112,647) by Dove from United States I'm going to have to subscribe to Apple at least for the month. At least I can also watch her other two Christmas concerts that are on there. It would be nice to be able to buy them on DVD though. Or on Amazon video. That's where I have all of her other digital concerts that are available. (Thursday 11 December 2025; 00:48)

Queen of Christmas (112,633) by Dove from United States I'd like to see a Christmas music video of Mariah wearing Martha May Whovier's super festive outfits and replaying scenes from the movie. Especially the part where she's putting Christmas lights on her house. Jim Carey's version of The Grinch. But don't Who-ify her. Keep her face human. (Tuesday 9 December 2025; 16:59)

Article: Waste/Dawn release metal cover of "All I Want for Christmas" (112,624) by Dove from United States I love it. Haha. (Monday 8 December 2025; 01:56)

Christmas Vegas shows (112,618) by Dove from United States Are they recording some of her Vegas Christmas shows? I like watching them. I wish we could buy some of them from previous years. I like watching them but some are only available through subscription services and I'm not going to subscribe to only watch one thing. The other day Mariah Carey's Magical Christmas Special popped up when I was listening to Christmas music and I was surprised at how good she sounded. I usually don't go for that one. I was pleasantly surprised. (Sunday 7 December 2025; 01:29)

Would you rather? (112,617) by Dove from United States I became a fan of Taylor when she was on a show on MTV. She was young, probably 15. I don't remember the show but she was going to the prom with a regular guy, as like, a prize. She was so sweet and humble. I immediately liked her and looked her up. I had already heard some of her songs on the radio but after that I started buying her albums and going to her shows. She seemed like a sweet girl who I would be friends with. I like how her songs were about things a girl her age would actually be going through and as she grew up her songs evolved with her. I didn't love her latest album at first listen but it has grown on me and now I love it. I really like the song Father Figure. About the record question: I would choose the option Edward said. At first I was going for the other option but his argument changed my mind. (Sunday 7 December 2025; 01:22) this is a reply to message 112,606

Would you rather? (112,606) by TJ from Norway I really don't understand why TS is so popular. It's like people are under a spell. (Saturday 6 December 2025; 09:45)

Muni Long what? (112,533) by Dove from United States You know, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt because I don't want to think about her anymore, but I think you're right about the gaslighting Lambi. The vibe doesn't feel nice. She was trying to be a venomous bitch and still is. Some people have a special light about them where people just want to love them. Mariah is one of them, Whitney Houston, Britney Spears, Taylor Swift, Paul McCartney, Michael Jackson. You can't manufacture that. One thing I'll give Tommy Mottola is that he was good at spotting it. A lot of my favorite artists/people were his artists. Fiona Apple, Mariah Carey, Jessica Simpson (she's pretty endearing), Beyoncé, Celine Dion. Jewel said in her book he offered her a record deal. Shakira, Ricky Martin. I know he didn't discover all of them but he recognized their talent. I know some of them have said negative things about him but I'm talking strictly about spotting star quality. And on a side note Jessica Simpson looked the best she's ever looked in the Irresistible video so I think he was right to ask her to lose 15 pounds. She was competing with Britney. It's easy to lose 15 pounds when you're 17, I doubt anybody told her to do it in an unhealthy way. If she would have walked on a stairclimber every day she could have easily done it without diet pills. But I don't know him. Maybe he was an asshole about it. Sometimes being an entertainer, being attractive and fit is part of the job. Especially when you're young. Of course there are exceptions but you're basically selling a fantasy. But anyway, I was talking about star quality. In the movie Stardust with Claire Danes, where she plays a literal star, she glows and that's what it reminds me of. Some artists these days have no business being famous. They can paint themselves in glow in the dark colors, but it's not the same as when you're born with the glow from within. The only reason I've even heard of this character is because Mariah did a song with her. She doesn't have star quality. Just to clarify on my last post: I'm a fan of Jessica Simpson as a person, by what I know about her from her book and reality show. I'm not a fan of her music, although she is a good singer. (Thursday 27 November 2025; 05:01)

Article: Muni Long says she meant no "disrespect" to Mariah Carey (112,532) by Dove from United States Same. (Thursday 27 November 2025; 04:28) this is a reply to message 112,526

Article: Muni Long says she meant no "disrespect" to Mariah Carey (112,526) by jaker20 from US I think it's a big misunderstanding. I'm pretty sure Mariah's already probably contacted her. I just don't want Mariah to be getting into these petty stuff anymore. She's no longer a pop girl. But a lot of lambs are still stuck on stirring stuff like these. I hope Mariah will connect with everyone who did her wrong, and move on with her life. That will be a true legacy. (Wednesday 26 November 2025; 17:56)

Article: Muni Long says she meant no "disrespect" to Mariah Carey (112,520) by Dove from United States Well at least she cleared it up. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Maybe she was trying to be funny like Lambily said and it just didn't come out right. I mean if Mariah Carey said that about me I'd be heartbroken, even though I genuinely don't think Mariah meant it as shade towards her. Just because she looked genuinely confused. It seemed like she thought she covered it on an album or something. She was equally confused when they were playing Clarissa's version of Someone's Ugly Daughter in that interview with SZA (who I recently discovered and I really love BTW). I think she thought they were playing the version with her vocals on it. This whole year has been like she's in a fog. Which makes her so human to me. It makes me love her even more. (Wednesday 26 November 2025; 01:42)

Queen of Christmas (112,513) by Dove from United States Like I said, I don't know anything about trademarking. I assumed they were trademarked because they were used in every article and introduction made about those artists. It's common knowledge that they reigned supreme in those music categories. I didn't know it wasn't "official" because it seemed like it was. Also, I now understand that if she trademarked it no one else could use it and that's why people were against it. Thanks for telling me that. But I don't know why anyone else would. Side note: I didn't know the religious aspect was also an issue. (Tuesday 25 November 2025; 12:25) this is a reply to message 112,510

Queen of Christmas (112,510) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley and Aretha Franklin never tried to trademark those titles. That's the difference. If Mariah was allowed to trademark the phrase "queen of Christmas", then nobody could use that phrase anymore. She deserved all the backlash she got. (Tuesday 25 November 2025; 12:16)

2005 (112,512) by Dove from United States Maybe that is what she needs. A CEO type person. I don't know what each person does. This year they had her scheduled on a lot of shows and I appreciate that. The Christmas shows look good. Maybe they just need a bigger team. I'm not saying she needs to be out there every day, I want her to rest too. But there's a lot that can be done with her just her name, likeness, and the music that has already been recorded without her having to do much. If it's marketed right. I just want to keep her name relevant, especially among younger people because they're new to her music. And I don't think she has to write songs differently than what comes organically because old and young people seem to like her music once they listen to it. All of it. I played the original Merry Christmas on a road trip with some of my siblings, who are a lot younger than me, and they were in awe of her voice. My youngest brother was amazed. He said he couldn't believe the way she was singing. I get this reaction sometimes from people who listen to her albums for the first time. Sometimes their first introduction to her was not good. Like the terrible "leak" when she didn't sound good at all televised Christmas shows. I forgot which one it was but it was viral and people were dragging her hard for it. (Tuesday 25 November 2025; 12:19) this is a reply to message 112,481

2005 (112,481) by Bobby A from United States I think he couldn't reinvent MC's career now being out of her life for so long. MC needs an up and coming business-minded CEO to manage her career. The music business is really challenging for a lot of R&B artists right now because they have managers who are not marketing the whole artist anymore. Their mindset today is to release a couple of singles for streaming success and then drop the album one year later hoping for huge album numbers. Summer Walker's Finally Over It is really suffering from this business strategy. (Monday 24 November 2025; 12:52)

Queen of Christmas (112,508) by Dove from United States But the people who were against the title were also music people so the "of Christmas music" was implied. (Tuesday 25 November 2025; 12:04) this is a reply to message 112,504

Queen of Christmas (112,504) by Lighty from China Because "Queen of Christmas" and "Queen of Christmas Music" is different? (Tuesday 25 November 2025; 11:02)

Muni Long what? (112,507) by Dove from United States Well, I was neutral about that singer but now I don't like her. It's obvious when Mariah is throwing shade and she wasn't at that singer. It was obvious she forgot because when she said it she looked confused and like she was trying really hard to remember. (Tuesday 25 November 2025; 12:03) this is a reply to message 112,500

Muni Long what? (112,500) by Shezz from Pk I can't believe Mariah would be in on this. Muni is being dragged on social media for it. Whatever Mariah said in GQ, misunderstanding his question was no disrespect compared to this. Bobby A you're a Muni Long fan. Thoughts? (Tuesday 25 November 2025; 04:34)

Queen of Christmas (112,499) by Dove from United States You're probably right but it would need to be trademarked for the movie I have in my head. On a side note: Why was it okay for Michael Jackson to be the King of Pop and for Elvis to be the King of Rock and Roll and Aretha to be the Queen of Soul? I feel like there's a lot of jealousy geared towards Mariah. I feel like that's part of the reason she doesn't have as many awards as she should. (Tuesday 25 November 2025; 03:23) this is a reply to message 112,492

Queen of Christmas (112,492) by Edward from USA I don't think she should've tried in the first place. The backlash was immediate, and honestly, predictable. You can't trademark a general Christmas term, it just comes off as ridiculous. The moment she filed for "Queen of Christmas", I knew it was going to blow back on her ass. Mariah already owns a piece of Christmas culturally. She earned that organically through her music and impact, she didn't need a legal title to prove it. Trying to lock it down for profit only made her look unnecessarily greedy, and it distracted from what she actually excels at: being the soundtrack of the season without even trying. (Monday 24 November 2025; 17:14)

2005 (112,498) by Dove from United States The Beatles are old and still re-release their stuff for newer audiences. No one is taking anything away from the youngsters. (Tuesday 25 November 2025; 03:19) this is a reply to message 112,493

2005 (112,493) by Tony Lorenzo from UK I think we should all get over the business side of her career now. She has done it all. She's been on top of the charts more than anyone else in history. She has an exquisite back catalogue that she can perform whenever she likes throughout the year which she also owns the masters to. She has her yearly Christmas show. She is widely seen as a legend. What more can she and we ask for? Do we need her try and compete with the youngsters, who also sometimes deserve their time in the spotlight? Do we want her compromising on her sound so the music is "current" but not really her? She is now at the stage where she can, and needs to, sit back, survey her career with glee, and enjoy her leisure time. She's got two beautiful children, one of whom apparently wants to join the singing business, meaning Mariah can mentor her and do what she can for the success of her next generation. I don't think we fans can expect any more of her. She brings out a new album for her die-hard fans and it matters not how it charts. We should be on the floor praising the Lord that she has bothered to bring out new music for us, when she absolutely doesn't need to any more. Mariah has given us so so much. An ouvre that she and we can be deeply proud of and go back to again and again, a timeless catalogue of stunning hits and exquisite vocals. Her recent performances have come despite all of the grief from her personal life, and despite her mental health, which due to bipolar's nature will only progressively get more difficult to deal with. She is doing the most, for us, and what I want to tell Mariah, that woman who we should be so amazed to have been around to witness in her prime, is rest. Do not worry about your career, stop performing when you don't want to. Pop up a couple of times a year to keep the money you fully deserve rolling in, to sing your hits , knowing you have a solid fanbase who will always turn out for you when you're in town. Celebrate the Christmas period with us, then go back and hibernate, help dem babies with whatever they have going on, and never think for a second that because you might be being quiet, your status as a legend is in any doubt. Those of us trying to strategize how to keep her in the headlines and at the top of the charts are just applying unnecessary pressure on her, making her think she's got to keep up the insane work ethic lest we all disappear. We need to just enjoy what she has already achieved, and allow her to spend the rest of her life lounging on the beach and popping up now and again. I would personally enjoy some more writing for another book. Perhaps one delving into her music catalogue, with the stories behind them and their recording, her take on some of the fabulous moments in her career like Divas Live with Aretha, or her first ever performance when she sings America the Beautiful to the sports stars, etc. We'd all love to know more about her from the perspective of her music, now she has already given us her perspective on her personal life and history. We want info on the music now. I also would definitely not object to a concept album where she sings jazz standards, or sings over some amazing dance music. Mariah over some hot current beats. Basically using her voice in different ways, as it is an instrument. Basically just flirting with whatever bits and bobs she likes, with zero pressure. It's what Mariah deserves. We should all be thankful that she is still here to receive her flowers and enjoy this stage of life, given how many of our stars pass away before they get to reflect on their careers. I shall shut up now. Not criticising you, merely advocating for us to stop thinking Mariah needs to do any more than she has. Mariah has had a stellar career and I can't understand why people want even more from her. Can we not just enjoy what we already have and stop pressuring her for even more? (Monday 24 November 2025; 18:07)

Vegas (112,496) by Dove from United States I'm kind of over her being in Vegas. Can't we get a residency in New York City? After I saw the Elvis movie I'm not so into Vegas anymore. (Monday 24 November 2025; 22:52)

Elf on the shelf (112,491) by Dove from United States I'm at Walmart right now and they have Martha Stewart's elf on the shelf again this year and there are little outfits so you can change her. If it was Mariah I would have bought all of it. (Monday 24 November 2025; 17:10)

Name as a brand (112,490) by Dove from United States I don't know anything about licensing but they do a good job. I've bought a lot of things just because her name is connected. (Monday 24 November 2025; 15:49) this is a reply to message 112,488

Name as a brand (112,488) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Marilyn Monroe's likeness is licensed through her estate, which is owned by Authentic Brands Group (ABG). Her name is used as a brand name for a wide variety of products and collaborations, including cosmetics, apparel, and accessories from different companies, such as the makeup line born from Stefano Cigana and collaborations with brands like DIFF Eyewear and Max Factor. (Monday 24 November 2025; 15:43)

Queen of Christmas (112,489) by Dove from United States I think she should try to trademark this again. Maybe she could write a Christmas song about the Virgin Mary and call the song "Queen of Christmas" so nobody gets any ideas. I don't know why other singers are against this. Mariah Carey is the queen of Christmas. Also, wishlist: Christmas duet with Kelly Clarkson Cover of Winter Wonderland Cover of Last Christmas by Wham Cover of Christmas Tree Farm by Taylor Swift Christmas duet with Doja Cat (original song with rap verses) (Monday 24 November 2025; 15:48)

Name as a brand (112,487) by Dove from United States Maybe she should ask Shaquille O''Neal about how they use Marilyn Monroe's name for everything. One Christmas my mom got me some underwear that were "Marilyn Monroe" since she knows I like her. The only thing "Marilyn Monroe" about the underwear was the label because how would anyone know what kind of underwear she wore? One of them was cheetah print, one was black transparent with some lace, and the third was nude colored. I mean I guess she could have worn underwear like that but I know my mom bought them for the picture of Marilyn Monroe on the label. If it had any other label they wouldn't have been as special, I think. (Monday 24 November 2025; 15:34)

Waterford collab (112,486) by Dove from United States I was thinking of what I would like to be the shapes of the crystal Mariah ornaments and the first thing that came to mind was Mariah in the Honey video when she's climbing up the rope to get in the helicopter. I went to Hobby Lobby and saw some ornaments that reminded me of early Taylor Swift. It was the hands making the heart, a glittery guitar, some cowboys boots, and a cowboy hat. They weren't all pink. They weren't Taylor Swift ornaments but they're figures that immediately remind me of her. For Mariah one is definitely a butterfly. I like Elton's Red heart ornament that gives 10% to the Aids Foundation. She could have a pink or "pink yet lavender" ornament that gives a percentage to a charity. Another one that came to mind was a meme I saw of her where she has her finger in her ear with her eyes closed and her other arm in the air. I guess she's hitting the high notes. Crystal ornaments don't really have faces but there could be an indentation to show her eyes are closed and she could be wearing the stars crown she has in the "It's Time" Sephora ad. (Monday 24 November 2025; 15:24)

Random thoughts (112,485) by Dove from United States I don't know if the people Taylor has working for her are younger or what, but she jumps on every marketing opportunity and puts out fun merch that you'd actually want to buy. I know a lot of us Mariah fans, we're older now, but we've been with her since we were kids. She brings out the kid in me. Not just because I've been a fan since I was a kid but also because she's like a big kid herself. Some of the merch I like, but a lot of it has been a miss for me. A while ago I got some of her wrapping paper that was fun. It had the cartoon version of her and her dog. I wrapped up some empty boxes with it and I put them out every year as decoration. Now her wrapping paper and annual ornaments just have her name or initials. It's quality paper but it's not fun. I'd rather buy fun wrapping paper at Home Goods than use that. I liked the Swarovski snowflake she had a few years back. Couldn't she do an ornament collaboration with Waterford like Elton John has? Release one every year? Or I've seen advertised some really cute advent calendars with each window having a mini figure of Mariah in her most famous ensembles. It's a scam, and 2D, but it would be cute if they were real. You could sell that for $120 ($10 per figure that probably cost a few dollars to make). I think people would buy it. But if it's quality. Not the ugly deformed faces the Hallmark ornaments have had in recent years. I've already said I prefer blow molds to inflatables. I like to use the same stuff year after year. Some of her merch is cute. I like the denim jacket and one of the sweatshirts she had the year she had the concert in New York during covid. Her kids were wearing it. But to get this stuff to sell you kind of need a promotional vehicle. Like with Disney. I know Disney would get a big cut but it's good marketing because it would reinforce the queen of Christmas idea and introduce kids to her voice. Maybe they could use the recordings of her when she was younger from the original Merry Christmas. I don't know how that works. (Just because if the Princess is a young girl she needs to sound young.) It would be nice if they included the duet with her mom as a tribute. Like, recreating the video in cartoon form. A few years ago I saw a short (reel?) of Kris Jenner's wrapping paper she made for her kids. It had drawings of her kids on it and it was really good. I'm not sure who the artist was but hire her for the wrapping paper. Or there's also an artist I've seen on Facebook whom I really like. I just looked her up, the page is called Hayden Williams Illustrations. That would be fun wrapping paper. (Or art prints.) (Monday 24 November 2025; 14:59)

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