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Mimi L (54,071) by Kate from UK I know what you mean about songs be touted as the next number 1, and it of course has to do with expectation and everything Ardis said. There sure have been a lot of excuses over the flops, but alas, what can you do? Maybe Mariah and co know TEOM or even E=MC2 levels of success just aren't realistic and therefore released #1 To Infinity and combined it with Vegas as celebration of the number ones. They wouldn't release a #1s album if they thought MC would be getting a number 1 the next year. That doesn't apply to the original album though because it was a contractual thing. (Right?) (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 20:37)

Janet Jackson (54,070) by Musti from UK She is coming back. Has anyone listened to her "I'm coming back" message? That's the sound Mariah needs if she wants to streamline R&B again. MIAM was a great album but nothing revolutionary. The 2000s also saw Janet's comeback but she couldn't go too far because of one of the most sexist blacklists in music history (the Superbowl incident) when Justin Timberlake got a clean slate. So don't underestimate her. Her music was very influential in the 90s when R&B was just becoming popular. Mariah needs to update her sound if she wants to be popular again. And also drop the ultra-diva personality. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 20:27)

Music video (54,069) by NYHotShotta from USA I have to agree with many of you the video didn't live up to any expectations. Originally, they said the video was gonna be amazing and have all these kind of stunts. I think the video needed a more variety of different scenes and shots just like the WBT and DFAU music videos. I think they could have her perform in the middle of the Vegas strip with all those lights in the background sort of like the cover of the Glitter soundtrack or those shots in The Roof video where she's singing on top of the limo. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 19:41)

Ardis (54,068) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I have always enjoyed your posts and I respect your opinion. I am however assuming that your last post was directed at either me or Tiina or Licia. I can only speak for myself and this time around I didn't expect something just because I thought this is MC's next comeback. I had high expectations because Mariah herself fed us the high expectation. I don't think I need to repeat her and Brett's remark about the song-video combo, the press release of the hotel owner talking about her stunts, Mariah herself talking about how Brett and her had discussions about the stunts. Holding off a video for over a month fueling expectations that maybe the video is that great that they are waiting for the song to fall so that they can re-ignite it. I don't blame myself or any others disappointed by the video for having high expectations. We are all entitled to have our own feelings towards the video/song. Neither I, nor anyone else who didn't like it tried to tell others that they are wrong to love the video. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 19:25)

Who is the third man on the video? (54,067) by Bruno Ávila from Portugal Hello guys It's my first time posting here, but I am a fan since the Music Box era. Who is the older guy in the Infinity video? Miguel? (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 19:14)

Kate from UK (54,060) / MC3U / Janet (54,066) by Musti from UK I agree. Infinity might be R&B/Pop, but it's too much for the radio. I mean, honestly, has there been any radio song in the last 10+ years that goes into an acapella high note before it wraps up? So dramatic. Not to mention the violins. But it makes sense on stage. I do believe the video could've been much more engaging. But it doesn't make the song any less fitting for Vegas and for an album that's promoting the residency. It's a poor move in terms of a successful single, but she's doing Vegas now and clearly not the charts. I'm also disappointed about the MC re-release in December. Perhaps it will contain different takes or unreleased songs or her show from the Beacon Theatre. Otherwise I won't be buying it. As for a new album, I don't think this is a good year as Janet is coming back from retirement later in 2015. She is no Mariah, but she is a legend and does have a very large fanbase. You can't have two legends coming back at the same time. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 19:13)

Licia (54,065) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Dahlin' the struggle is real. I get how you feel. I wonder why they left out the gorgeous shots of her getting ready and sitting on the chaise lounge like the first teaser (although she did write it's not the real video) but she looked gorgeous in them. I think I wouldn't have been this disappointed with the video if MC and Brett didn't yell over the phone/radio that it will blow our minds haha. Also please tell me I am not the only one who thinks that the shot of MC in her closet (during the "name hold weight like kilos" semi-rap part where she is bouncing and awkwardly looking at the came) was really awkward. I was like whose bright idea was that? Until she popped the champagne bottle or threw herself at one of the closet doors, she looked like she is feeling awkward. But the woman looks sexy and beautiful to the power infinity, I'll give her that. She looks younger than her TEOM days. Gorgeous girl. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 19:01)

Expectations lead to suffering (54,064) by Ardis Logic from Earth In life, when you have expectations, you are setting yourself up for suffering and disappointment. It also works in this situation. If you just let it be what it is, then you will not be so disappointed. I think the video is beautiful. There is no way to expect MC to fulfill your fantasy of the "perfect" video, single, or album. She can only give us what she can. Just try next time not to expect so much and just let it be what it is. That is just my opinion on it. Much love to all. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 18:58)

Kate (54,062) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I don't know if you were here when there was a major showdown going on about how in the past few years, every time a single was announced, it was touted the next #1 and then every time it flopped it got dubbed as a buzz single. I will leave the technical definition at the end of the post. To clarify my previous post. When "Triumphant" was released, it was going to be the start off a new era, it was the return of MC. Dubbed the summer of MC. If the song was a success, the album would have been released shortly. But it flopped, and immediately MC and fans alike started dubbing it as a "buzz single" and "a song for Nick". The song was dropped from the album. Then came #Beautiful (which went fine until the accident). Then TAOLG, which was again going to kick of the new era (with all the first time ever Facebook event, Mariah on the bathroom floor because the wrong version was released) after the delay post #B. It failed to make any impact and no effort was made to push it and it got dubbed as "a single for the fans". Then came YM(E) and it was again going to be Mariah's 19th #1, up until it was released, which again failed to make an impact (excluding dance charts) and it was dubbed "a song for V-Day only, MC is now making V-Day anthem after conquering Christmas and also it's a song to tide us over till the proper single named Thirsty, which will be the 19th #1". Thirsty came and went, no video, no promo. MIAM was dead. Your point about singles being released to promote is right, but not all singles are buzz singles. When I say proper single, I mean it as the opposite of buzz single. Technical definition in music, a buzz single or advance single is a track or promotional song, released by the label (typically) preceding the album's release. The song(s) are released in order to bring attention to an album's release. Buzz singles are not typically issued to radio as promotional singles, but this will not prevent radio stations from playing the songs. Buzz singles are not always included on an album. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 18:55)

(54,061) by Alejandro Cole from Colombia I loved to talk to you. Do you have an e-mailaddress or skype? (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 18:35)

Mimi L (54,060) by Kate from UK What is a "proper single"? All singles are released to promote and create buzz for something. It's not like it was a random coincidence that Mariah happened to be performing in Vegas just as Infinity was released. Sure you could say it was to promote the album, but the album is the theme of the Vegas residency. Personally, I would class a "proper single" as a song released to promote an album with new content on it. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 18:16)

To: Henrique Pereira, that is my comment posted on YouTube actually (54,059) by PieterLamb from Indonesia First of all, I'm so delighted to see Mariah's new video "Infinity". At first I thought it was so so music video than Mariah ever made previously. But eventually I have my opinion on some symbolic things. One of my opinions was said by Henrique Pereira earlier on this message board. Actually it was my comments posted on the YouTube comment. Thanks for sharing my opinions though. However it would be better if you mention the source. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 17:49)

My opinion on the "Infinity" video (54,058) by Nick from USA I love the video so much, it wasn't anything spectacular, but it is her best video since "Obsessed". To be honest, I was expecting a video like "I Stay In Love" (which is my favorite MC video) with a real type of Vegas theme, but I wasn't going to get my hopes up. I like how this video actually has a story and does not just consist of beauty shots (#Beautiful, You're Mine, etc). If there was one thing I could change it would be the use of performance shots, they were done nicely and she looked beautiful in them but they shouldn't have taken up half of the video, I feel like there was more to focus on then just those shots. Overall, I am very pleased with this video and happy that we finally have it. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 17:33)

Infinity video (54,057) by Mike from FL, USA Ok, so I'm a little underwhelmed by the video. Like others, I just really assumed with all the hype, it would have been something new and refreshing. Oh well. On a positive note, Mariah looks amazing. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 17:23)

Mimi L (54,056) by Licia from USA I agree with you Mimi L. There was so much that they said was going to happen and it didn't. I expected a fun TMB type video. The logical side of me knows that maybe they just bit off more than they could chew and they ran out of time. They couldn't do the video in the way that they really wanted, but the irrational/fan side of me wanted them to present a video in the way that they described. Irrational me is winning right not. Lol. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 17:14)

Bad blood: Can you still count them on one hand like Mariah JLo? (54,055) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End 2. We all know that classic Mariah line like the back of our own hands don't we? She started saying it back in the Butterfly era when she finality left Tommy and found herself wrongfully mired in rumours of promiscuity. Thanks a lot Valentine, good looking out. Meanwhile, Tommy plucked JLo out of obscurity and proceeded to groom her in Mariah's true image quite literally. Signed her onto Sony despite her less than silky vocals and threw everything that that would stick Mariah had fought tooth and nail nearly a decade to get at her. From her wardrobe and styling to her merger of Hip-Pop with Puffy, Cory Rooney, The Trackmasters etc. But dear old Tommy didn't stop there, no, he had JLo mock Mariah's very commendable choice of not being promiscuous by copying the statement she had made her own like Mariah is apt to do. When promoting On The 6 and several years subsequently JLo could be heard saying the exact same phrase almost verbatim. Coincidence right? Don't make me laugh. This was yet another way to screw with Mariah on a psychological level and both Tommy and JLo did it with that specific intent. It doesn't matter if JLo was being truthful at the time. It was the very fact that Tommy and she must have discussed his intimate life with Mariah and decided it was to their advantage if she was made painfully aware of it through mockery. No one can tell me any different. Passive-agressive 101. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 17:08)

Does Mariah Carey need a better gaydar? Nah (54,054) by Vítor Henrique Pereira from Brazil Some lambs say, "Mariah keeps leaving with a gayboy everytime." It is a symbolic thing, darlings. If you noticed from the "IInfinity" music video, there are 3 types of men appearing, similar like Nick (Tyson Beckford) and the older guy (similar like Tommy, her first husband) and then Jussie Smollet, a "coincidentally" openly gay guy. As you know, most of the male lambs are gay, in which she gets their love and support "to infinity". (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 16:59)

This single is just for Vegas, no sorry (54,053) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I see we are already trying to call this a "single only to promote Vegas". I said this before, I ain't having none of that. This was a proper single. No more "this was for the fans, this was for Nick, this was for V-Day, this was a buzz single". Everytime a single flops the single automatically is dubbed a buzz single. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 16:42)

Blow our minds (54,052) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter One of the reasons why I thought this video might be killer was the comment MC and Brett made that "it will blow your minds". Then came the article about how she is shooting the video and expect to see her in dangerous positions. Knowing their history and hearing their confidence made me feel like we will get a comedy-action like video. Something Brett excels in. Hello Heartbreaker anyone? It had a story, it had comedy, it had action, it had dance moves. There is absolutely nothing missing in the Heartbreaker video. Anyways, they hyped up the video only to give out a video, which while it is better than her last few efforts, still falls flat. Especially if it was the last weapon to push the song on the charts. This is basically still a "glamor shot/behind the scenes magazine shoot video" that Mariah can't seem to get out of. YM(E) was a low budget glamor shot behind the scenes, and this is a high budget or mid budget one. Just saying. The biggest change is Mariah tried real hard not to touch herself and it was evident that she was struggling to do so. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 16:41)

Video / re-release and other stuffs (54,051) by Lara from Middle East Finally the video is here and it didn't live up to its hype. From the sneak peeks I would've expected more. It just doesn't flow (maybe because the song by itself has also so many variations?). If it's a promo for her residency, then fine. Now what's next? I don't want a re-release of her Merry Christmas album, if they are gonna do a re-release, let it be with all the underrated gems that never got to be singles like "Migrate", "You don't know what to do", "Underneath the stars (on top of my head)" and let the social media pick a single out of it to get a video from. Now that wouldn't take so much to work on as if it's a new album. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 16:37)

Licia (54,050) by Lee from USA I know you and me (as black folks) won't be protesting if B get slammed. But when was the last time somebody had the courage to bash her on camera? Never. That's all about the backlash. If MCA was found by the Beyhive, do you think they would take kindly to some of us calling her overrated? I doubt it. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 16:10)

Tiina Infinity / good music videos (54,049) by Lee TS from USA Now those are some festive ideas lamby. They really could've done so much for the video and playing more to M's comedic side. They didn't live up to the hype they started. If this is what will blow our minds I think I'm gonna pass on the Christmas movie. Maybe they lost their spark since the mess of H.A.T.E.U. Their torrent love affair didn't do much to help, just for laughs. Since the board has been on this feud/rival tangent I'll like to mention Fifth Harmony. Now we love the girls because they're big MC supporters and has won the big stamp of approval. But I recently came across their so-called rival's Little Mix Black Magic music video and I was totally entertained. I legit watched their video 3 times in a row because it was so darn cute and the song was super catchy. In that moment I was almost ready to be like, "Little Mix all day". Lol but I'm way too old to be stanning for some girl group, I had my Spice Girls days haha. But here we have 5H looking like little strippers while Little Mix played up their cute and sexy side. But yeah, a good music video is everything and a bag of fritos. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 16:06)

Giselle (54,048) by B from USA What does our ages have to do with Beyoncé's music? Beyoncé was once a talented artist with integrity. Yes, she sang songs about her jelly but she didn't take herself so seriously. How can you take a song like Drunk In Love seriously? It has no hook or chorus and it makes me feel like I'm in a drunken stupor or something. Beyoncé is trying too hard. She isn't hood. She wasn't raised in the ghetto. The only song that I liked on her self titled release was 7/11. If Mariah had released an album like Beyoncé I would be upset but coming from Beyoncé I expected it. After the disappointing and underwhelming 4 my expectations were low but she released an album that was well below my expectations. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 15:43)

Video (54,047) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I think she could have turned it into a mini movie. Even TMB had a little dialogue moment before the video. I think the video could have been like: first scene - MC fighting with her lover and she tells him to leave. She falls/collapses on the floor crying. Next scene: like Tiina said, MC signing up on the site debating with herself about the details. Then there can be cut scenes of her getting ready, put in the videos of different guys coming, when she shoos away the last suitor, she sings "infinity loving me more and more" twirling around hugging herself. At the end she drives off again taking Tiina's idea, with the dog. Scenes with a few friends partying/celebrating with her would have been great too. I mean just a rough idea. I could polish it more but really what's the point now. I loved the shot of her twirling around on the roof. I am disappointed there were no scenes of the alleged stunts. If this video was expected to re-ignite interest in the song, it either needed controversy or a kick-ass video. Something along the lines of "Honey". (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 15:24)

Beyonce (54,046) by Tiina from Finland Oh no, you guys, I didn't mean to hate on Beyonce or start a war, honest. I like her like I said, I paid to go to see her and traveled to France to go to her show. She's got major star power, she's beautiful, very talented and is running the show, leaving her powerful husband in the dust. It doesn't mean that she gets a free pass though because there are a lot of aspects that are ridiculous about her but there also seems to be this unspoken rule (not on this board, I mean on the internet) that you're not suppose to point out those things because she's somehow above criticism. I'm glad Beyonce is out there though because the new generation desperately needs someone who is talented, all they have got are basic "singers" like Miley, Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande and Taylor Swift. The only artist that interests me out of the new generation is Tori Kelly. She has a voice similar to Grande's but she's got mad control and she writes her own songs. I've been following her since she was on America's Most Talented Kids. Mariah was also one of her original inspirations. Anyway, back to Mariah. (Tuesday 2 June 2015; 15:17)

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