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Re: Why (88,726) (88,737) by B from USA This article mentions Mariah and is about R&B's decline in popularity. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 23:34)

Re: Randy (88,724) (88,736) by Andrew from London, UK If you are mad at Randy for repeating his grievances with somebody's else's actions, well... you can see the irony here, surely. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 23:23)

Re: Why (88,726) (88,735) by B from USA This era isn't about a #1 single or a #1 album, it's about repairing Mariah's public image after Stella's reign of terror. Mariah is an R&B artist and R&B music is no longer popular music. Mariah's commercial performance will improve once R&B is popular again. Mariah's commercial downturn is intricately linked to R&B's. Both began in 2008. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 23:16)

Nodules (88,734) by Lara from Middle East Found that video quite interesting. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 21:25)

Marissa (88,733) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I understand both the points that you and Randy made and I respect them both. Personally I feel like MC is trying to focus more on the touring side of things as are most artists nowadays. I believe that with Caution she wanted to bring new music to the touring because even though she can continue to cash in on her back catalog I am sure performing the same music and material can become very boring. Also I believe she felt that she needed to prove that she can still make quality music but also make the music that speaks to her. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 21:01)

J (88,732) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I know that Adele is 30. I never made a comparison to Adele at all in my post. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 20:49)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,727) (88,731) by jaker20 from US So what if Mariah's fanbase has dwindled. I really think she is just one streaming hit away for her discography getting rediscovered. She can make the most amazing album if no one is listening it won't matter. Thousands of streams is nothing if you think how many times I myself have listened to her cds when I used to buy them. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 20:23)

Princess (88,730) by Dove from United States Another way to appeal to the younger generation (and turn them on to her voice) is if she did the voice for a Disney princess movie. Like how Mandy Moore did Tangled and Idina Menzel did Frozen. I loved Disney animated movies when I was a kid (still do) and played them on repeat. Even now when I watch The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin it takes me back to a warm nostalgic place. Those songs and voices are a part of me. (I know she did AIWFCIY and it's cute and was definitely added to the list of Christmas movies we watch every year, along with A Christmas Melody, but it's not a Disney movie.) She doesn't have to write the movie but she could team up with one of those Disney songwriters to write the songs. But no rap please because the goal is to appeal to as many people as possible. Not sure what classic fairytale but there are so many to choose from, I'm sure they could come up with something. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 16:31)

Re: Mariah shades A No No remix (88,728) (88,729) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Hahahahaha that's really funny. So now both MC and JD have expressed disappointment over the remix. This reminds me of when the embarrassingly photo shopped "You Don't Know What To Do" single cover art was released and she chirped it on social media. It makes we wonder though, what does Mariah have to sign off on, and what does her label/management just push through even without her knowledge or consent? (Thursday 21 March 2019; 15:12)

Mariah shades A No No remix (88,728) by T from USA I traveled all the way to the Toronto show last night and it was well worth it the moment she shaded the "remix" by starting the Fantasy remix with saying how to her, remixes are supposed to be redone in creative new ways. Then she gave a big sassy Mariah smile and the fans went crazy. It was a moment. (I think it was a shot at Epic and/or Roc Nation.) (Thursday 21 March 2019; 13:15)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,723) (88,727) by RibbonB from USA Absolutely, but you were jokingly blaming it all on streaming or the lack thereof. Keep in mind that it takes a whole lot of streaming from a lot of people to impact charts and if Mimi has her base scattered, confused or worse, no longer interested, then she has a big problem. You can Google it, but it takes over 1,200 streams from a paid subscription to equal one album unit and over 3,000 streams from an ad supported service to equal one album unit, so you can't discount physical sales or download equivalent impact. It just highlights that her base has dwindled. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 10:03)

Re: Why (88,719) (88,726) by Marissa from USA I think it's confusing for a lot of fans. Mariah has so much potential and has shown it many times. I don't think fans (including myself sometimes) know the line between unrealistic expectations and having great faith in her potential. It's hard to discern if the odds are just against her and everyone needs to lighten up or if she has dropped the ball in some area (which has often been the case). The question is she not doing as well because of her age, our new musical climate, poor promotion, an unrelatable image, or the musical content just isn't what the majority of people want these days? Also, I find it embarrassing seeing lambs begging or even bullying others to make a song chart to make up for the gp's ambivalence towards her career. I want Mariah to have a successful album because she earned the attention of the general public and lambs alike, not because the same 30 lambs are calling in sick from work to stream songs and endlessly refresh videos. It's like stuffing the ballot box because you don't want your friend to get her feelings hurt if she doesn't win for class president. I think the real question is what is Mariah's intention when she puts out music? Is it just a hobby now? Does she care more about chart success or critical acclaim? Is it about having touring opportunities so she can maintain her lifestyle? I think if she was more clear about what she wants out of her efforts the lambs would be able to decide what they should do (adjust expectations or leave the fanbase). Otherwise, it's only natural to believe that an artist's main intention when putting music out is to be commercially successful, hence why every era people come up with suggestions that they think would help attain that. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 01:57)

Re: Why (88,721) (88,725) by J from USA Gee, Adele is only 30. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 01:52)

Randy (88,724) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) My thing is you are entitled to your feelings just like everyone else is who comes to this message board. My thing is complaining about the same issues day in and day out will not change anything until MC herself wants to make anymore changes. It's either accept where she is and what she wants to do at this point in her life and career or leave it alone. I miss certain things about 90's MC, but I can appreciate MC in 2019 as well because she is being true to herself and she gave me in my opinion a great quality album this last go round. I have accepted that 90's MC is gone and where she takes her artistry at this point is where she sees it fit. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 01:11)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,707) (88,723) by jaker20 from US You can support any artists any way you want. Sales and CD still count and going to her concert is probably the best way to support Mariah. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 01:01)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? Part 2 (88,718) (88,722) by jaker20 from US I feel like I opened a can of worms: 1. No, you don't need a computer to stream. Majority of people stream on their phones and many other devices at many different places. 2. People stream for convenience. You get so many songs with you if you have a phone or any streaming devices. People don't get streaming subscription because they want songs to chart lol. 3. I don't know what the "tabs" mean. You don't need to open "tabs" on your computer browser to stream. Honestly I don't understand what that post was even about. 4. IP address post: No, each time you play a song, that counts as a stream each, hence if you play it 10 times, you streamed it 10 times. 5. To that one poster, I stream on my phone most of the time, I walk to work, on the bus, and at work. When I do drive it's in the car too. I like having any song I want when I work out too. 6. Speakers have no relationship with streaming. Indirect equivalence. My dad loves streaming because he can tell Alexa to play anything anywhere in the house and he's got great audio system connected anywhere in his house. 6. I stream a song many times because I love a song same not because I want an artist to chart. I'm speechless for that false equivalence. You know kind of like when you put a CD on repeat? The difference is that the likelihood of playing a song on repeat is higher on streaming because its with you all the time. 7. If you live in a remote country, you probably won't stream. I guess some licensing issues, or some artist don't open their songs to streaming services in some areas, I don't know. (Thursday 21 March 2019; 00:49)

Re: Why (88,719) (88,721) by Randy from USA Let me explain why. When you have set the bar so high and have shown people who have financially supported you what you are capable of, they are going to have expectations. When you are lazy and complacent at your job after awhile Gee, wouldn't they give you a bad evaluation, write you up or fire you? What happens to a recording artist? Or a singer that doesn't sing, lip syncs? They get lower sales and maybe bad press. But they still get residuals from when they were great right? And because when they were great they saved millions of dollars so they actually could live off of their money, right? But what about you Gee? Do you still get a check from the great work you did 20 years ago? So this is when you say, "Well, fire Mariah." The thing is, I still believe in this woman. She constantly says she cares what the fans think. I even think she spies on us. We ask for no more callabos. We get MOAIA. We ask for no more lip syncing and she starts struggling through performances. We say fire Stella, she does. So when we ask for her to mature from eternally 12 to, I don't know, Adele's age, because she'll never accept 50, I can't help but believe she will. Finally, if there's nothing else that will convince you that Andrew, Edward, myself, and a few others are still fans. We are here. I could be doing anything else. Grading papers. Finding a man. Finding Special K because she still thinks I'm cute. P.S. When diehards, mainly me, have counted her out before, she's shocked the hell out of us. I said her voice was done after the 98 embarrassments and 99-00 lipsyncing. She was perfection and live at A Home For The Holidays in 2001. I said she will never sell again after Glitter and Charmbracelet. And she came back with TEOM. I said her voice is shot and it's all smoke, mirrors and studio tricks after MOAIA and she gave me that impromptu for the fans at Jimmy Fallon in 2012. I said her music is stale and she only sticks to pop/r&b and then she gave me Meteorite on MIAMTEC. So excuse me if I stick around for MC to prove me wrong again or shock the hell out of me. (Wednesday 20 March 2019; 23:15)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,717) (88,720) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Doesn't each IP address only count as one "view" or "listen"? I thought each IP address would only be counted once. You can listen to a song on repeat 100 times in a row, but it will only count as 1, because they track that it's coming from the same device. (Wednesday 20 March 2019; 20:50)

Why (88,719) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Why is that Mariah must jump leaps and bounds just to keep everyone content? Almost thirty years later no female artist has given us what she has given as far as influence and her catalog yet it is still not enough. She just released a great album yet she should work with everyone and their mama to please everyone. Why can't Mariah just do her and those that like it continue to support and those that are done riding her wave move on plain and simple. It has become so boring hearing people complain about the same things regarding Mariah at this point either accept for who she is or just hang on to who she once was and find another artist or artists that excite your tastes. (Wednesday 20 March 2019; 20:20)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? Part 2 (88,699) (88,718) by RibbonB from USA Billboard charting still counts radio, which Mimi can barely get new music airplay on, physical sales, which she gets a small fraction of what she used to and streaming, which is low by Drake standards. Mimi has to hit on all these bases she needs to find out where those fans are and what they want to consume. If she sold 200,000 physical copies, or equivalents her first week, she would've been sitting pretty, no matter the streaming part. Taylor Swift sold big with 1989, despite it not being available on Spotify. Yes streaming is the current wave, but other factors are still in play and Mariah hasn't addressed them. (Wednesday 20 March 2019; 20:15)

Does anyone here even stream music? (88,717) by Lara from Middle East I don't. It's a no no for me. (Wednesday 20 March 2019; 20:12)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? Part 2 (88,699) (88,716) by MusicfanJ from Germany "$10 a month you get millions of songs." Yes, but I don't want and need millions of songs. Just because something is trending like streaming, that doesn't mean it's better. I don't like to listen to music via computer. I have an excellent stereo system at home where I can really enjoy the music offline not just "consume" on the internet besides. On the way I have my mp3-player. I also like YouTube. What I mean is I prefer quality music over quantity. I did buy Mariah's album on the first day of the release, so to say the "retro lambs" are the reason Mariah isn't selling enough is not fair. (Wednesday 20 March 2019; 18:05)

Re: My duets album (88,714) (88,715) by RibbonB from USA Yes, the comments are hilarious. But that might makes him an undesirable duet partner. (Wednesday 20 March 2019; 17:19)

Re: My duets album (88,713) (88,714) by Licia from USA Daniel is always saying stupid sh*t. He was supposedly drunk so when the backlash hits him that's his excuse. I never listened to him besides that song with him and H.E.R. so no need for me to cancel him. Lol. (Wednesday 20 March 2019; 14:06)

Re: My duets album (88,708) (88,713) by RibbonB from USA Daniel Caesar is currently in cancellation, lol. I'm just being introduced to him. I only like three people in your list, so I would add Khalid and Ella Mai. Ella Mai tweeted recently that TEOM is one of her favorite records. Khalid has a cool voice and vibe. (Wednesday 20 March 2019; 13:17)

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