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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,835)
by BFF from United States
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That is an interesting point. Mariah has mentioned that Tommy and her management kept her in the dark about movie offers and opportunities early on in her career, and I have always wondered what those opportunities were. And you're right, they did kind of trick Mariah into doing "When You Believe".
I still think Mariah would have turned down MHWGO; it just doesn't fit with the direction she took post-1996 - less adult contemporary, more creative control. Plus Mariah had bigger, better ballads planned for "Glitter" and probably felt that stuff she wrote was just as good or better than MHWGO.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 14:06)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,832)
by Lambi from USA
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Honestly, yes. When you consider how high-budget Titanic was, the most expensive movie ever made at the time, it makes complete sense. The film had a massive budget of about $200 million, which in 1997 was completely unprecedented. Heck, that is still very expensive even by today's standards.
And knowing how eager Mariah was to break into the movie world, she likely would have put her personal preferences aside and agreed to it. Sometimes a director has such a fully realized vision that the smartest move is to humble yourself and simply deliver what is being asked of you. In this case, it's just to sing. You would also have to be a fool to pass up such a ridiculously ginormous opportunity. Céline was valid for rejecting it because she had just done Beauty and the Beast and was rightfully tired of theme songs, but Mariah did not have a major soundtrack moment yet. And man was she hungry for some credibility.
She did When You Believe as an extreme exception, and she was kind of tricked into it. Babyface told each of them that the other one had already agreed to do the song. She did not want to look difficult or back out of something that big. In the end, it worked out for the best because that was actually iconic. Arguably, the best two voices God gifted us, in one song.
And with Almost Home, this was way post-Glitter. Mariah had already been extremely humbled when it came to soundtracks. She was already a mom by then, and all she did was watch Disney movies with dem babies, so when Disney offered her the opportunity, of course she took it. I remember she was so happy talking about it because that Disney soundtrack moment coincided with the twins' 2nd birthday and their 5th wedding anniversary, which they celebrated in Disney land as well. And they freaking shut down the whole entire park.
(Wednesday 31 December 2025; 11:28)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,810)
by BFF from United States
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Do you think Mariah would have recorded "My Heart Will Go On" if it had been offered to her? She seemed pretty firm on not recording original songs written by other people at that point in her career. The song was also more in line with the adult contemporary image she was attempting to leave behind at that point in her career. She relaxed that rule about recording other people's songs when she did "When You Believe" with Whitney, but it seemed like Mariah was pretty steadfast on it up until "Almost Home". I'm actually a bit confused by "Almost Home" because Mariah says she did not write, but she was given a writing credit. Perhaps it was brought to her and then she asked for changes before agreeing to record it?
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 13:58)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,804)
by Lambi from USA
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Yes, Horner and Jennings wrote the song. No one disputes that. But writing a song is not the same thing as turning it into the biggest global single of the 1990s.
I never said Tommy claimed authorship. In Hitmaker, he is very clear that his role was artist development, positioning, and leverage, the things that actually turn a record into a phenomenon.
Saying "Mottola had nothing to do with it" is abundantly wrong. Mottola was Céline's label boss and chief strategist. In Hitmaker, he describes Céline as one of Sony's most important artists and explains how he engineered her crossover from adult contemporary into global pop dominance. My Heart Will Go On was only the centerpiece of that strategy, not some accidental byproduct.
Another detail from his book that you're clearly not aware of: Céline almost did not do the song at all. She was tired of movie songs after Beauty and the Beast and initially did not want to do another one. Meaning the song was definitely up for grabs. That alone disproves the idea that this was a passive or an automatic process.
The global marketing coordination between Sony Music and the Titanic soundtrack mattered enormously. The radio rollout, the single release, and the international push were all deliberate. Without that effort, the song could easily have remained just a soundtrack cut.
So yes, Tommy Mottola had everything to do with it. Saying otherwise only shows that you did not read his book.
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 10:38)
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(Rare unseen) Butterfly (Live in Honolulu, Butterfly tour) (112,748)
by BFF from United States
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Yes, I meant the United States, which is Mariah's main market and the focus of the Billboard charts. I understand that the world is bigger than the US.
(Tuesday 23 December 2025; 15:00)
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(Rare unseen) Butterfly (Live in Honolulu, Butterfly tour) (112,747)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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"Butterfly", "The Roof", and "Breakdown" were commercial releases, but not in the USA. Maybe that's why there are remixes. Some people forget that the world is bigger that just the USA.
(Tuesday 23 December 2025; 14:17)
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(Rare unseen) Butterfly (Live in Honolulu, Butterfly tour) (112,746)
by BFF from United States
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I think "Butterfly" had a chance to be more successful if it had been commercially released. With airplay only, it managed to reach #15 on the Hot 100 Airplay Chart, #11 on Adult Contemporary, and #35 on Adult Pop Airplay. "Fly Away (Butterfly Reprise)" also had a lot of gross-genre appeal. I think "Butterfly" didn't get a commercial release because of the subject matter (her separation/divorce from Tommy).
The "Butterfly" album was really a missed opportunity in terms of singles. Almost an entire year elapsed between the commercial release of "Honey" and the commercial release of "My All". The approach made absolutely zero sense considering how popular Mariah was at that point in her career. It was also strange that Sony chose to put out two editions of "My All" on CD Single - one with the So So Def Mixes and Dance Remixes of "My All" and the other with remixes of "Breakdown", "The Roof", and "Fly Away". "Butterfly", "The Roof", and "Breakdown" were all clearly planned for commercial release but then vetoed/pulled for some reason. Otherwise, she would not have produced remixes and music videos.
"Butterfly", "The Roof", and "Breakdown" all should have received full commercial releases. They're among her best work and would have helped the "Butterfly" album perform better than it did.
(Tuesday 23 December 2025; 14:05)
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(Rare unseen) Butterfly (Live in Honolulu, Butterfly tour) (112,732)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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If "Butterfly" had been commercially released back then, do you think it would have been a No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100? Although I have loved "Lead The Way" more than this song lately, it has been my top favorite ballad by Mariah. I didn't know they changed the rule at that time, and I was expecting that after "Honey", she would score another No. 1 with "Butterfly". And then, I was also expecting "Breakdown" only to find out they were released for airplay only. I remember I was so sad and only recovered when "My All" hit the top spot. Just reminiscing, and a thought triggered by this post.
(Monday 22 December 2025; 04:12)
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The demo tape (112,698)
by BFF from United States
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Didn't Mariah say that "Hypnotized" was one of songs on her demo tape? She tweeted about listening to this song back in 2015, so she clearly has access to some or all of the songs she registered and recorded prior to her record deal with Sony.
(Monday 15 December 2025; 16:26)
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The demo tape (112,692)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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They only bought the tape, not the rights to the songs. So all you can do with the tape is listen to it. You can't play it on radio or tv and you certainly can not release the songs. I'm sure Mariah has another copy of the tape, but I don't know if she has the rights to the songs.
(Monday 15 December 2025; 09:58)
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Here For It All Christmas show (112,697)
by BFF from United States
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I watched/listened to a little bit of it. Honestly, a lot of vocals sound like she had a cold but maybe that's just the state of her voice these days? It seem that most of the show used pre-recorded vocals as with the Mimi anniversary shows. She seems to have pre-recorded a lot of content in her "current" voice to make it sound more believably live. There's no way to prove with absolute certainly, but the Christmastime show just seems to be more of the same. I'm happy that she's still out there, but it does seem dishonest to keep up the charade at such high ticket price points. On the other hand, I understand that the holiday season is now her main source of income, so there is pressure to keep performing to ensure AIWFCIY continues accumulating weeks at #1.
The Hot 100 chart hasn't officially posted for the week of 12/20/25, but it seems like a foregone conclusion that she will take the record back for most weeks at #1 and that she will be the first act to accumulate 20 weeks at #1. It's so strange that these random news stories keep being planted about her panicking that the song will not perform well this year.
(Monday 15 December 2025; 16:22)
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Here For It All Christmas show (112,684)
by Bobby A from United States
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When MC is focused about giving a great performance, she shines. Last night's petformance was 10 stars. I loved the vocals and overall performances from everyone.
(Sunday 14 December 2025; 18:01)
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History in the making (112,634)
by BFF from United States
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I love the fact that Mariah will be able to take the record back after "One Sweet Day" was surpassed by those awful songs by Lil' Nas X and Shaboozey. Mariah deserves to retake her place at the throne and all of the others can rightfully bow down. As Mariah would say, "I worked hard for this mess."
(Tuesday 9 December 2025; 21:32)
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History in the making (112,629)
by Edward from USA
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It's official, "AIWFCIY" is back on top of the Billboard Hot 100. Lil Nas X better have that torch polished and ready, because it's heading right back to the queen next week. It should've never wandered out of her queendom to begin with.
(Monday 8 December 2025; 21:55)
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Would you rather? (112,611)
by BFF from United States
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I think I'd rather go with scenario #2 and have 2-3 more non-holiday Mariah originals go to number one. I think it would give Mariah some confidence back and refocus her attention away from legacy residencies and holiday tours/residencies.
I'm not sure that Taylor Swift will break Mariah's current record for most solo number ones. She's getting married, so she's clearly preparing for a phase where her personal life is more important than her music. Swift doesn't really have a core musical identity like Mariah. She has shape-shifted across almost all of her albums from country to country-pop to pop to "folk", following trends and rehashing ideas that were done better by other artists before her. Her career trajectory has been very much like Madonna's in that way. Swift's popularity will fall off sooner rather than later, and she'll lose momentum.
Rihanna debuted on the scene around the same time as Swift (mid-2000s) and was releasing a lot of albums and notching a lot of #1s. But then she completely disappeared from the music industry after 2016's "Anti" and hasn't put out an album in almost 10 years. I think the same thing will happen with TS soon.
(Saturday 6 December 2025; 14:23)
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Would you rather? (112,603)
by T from USA
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If you could only chose one. Would you rather Mariah have the record for the longest running #1 hit or the most #1 hits?
Scenario 1) AIWFCIY is number one for three more weeks giving it a total of twenty one weeks, and 100 weeks in total on the Hot 100.
Scenario 2) AIWFCIY stalls forever at eighteen weeks, but her next two singles (featured or solo) go to #1, and so her all time Hot 100 total is 99 weeks.
Pick one.
(Friday 5 December 2025; 23:55)
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2026 Plans for Here For It All? (112,602)
by BFF from United States
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I think you're right about the chances for the deluxe release, though I do recall Gwen Stefani's "Bouquet" album getting the deluxe treatment even after the album tanked.
Gamma and Mariah's team really dropped the ball on the promotion for the singles and album. We had some momentum with "Type Dangerous" appearing on the Hot 100, but they really should have leaned into that more and probably picked a different second single. I think centering the single release of "Sugar Sweet" around the Kehlani and Shenseea guest features hurt rather than helped.
Mariah was pulled in so many different directions this year - her deaths in the family, the Celebration of Mimi domestic and international dates, the single and album release, and now Christmas. She's kind of trapped herself a little bit with the AIWFCIY, the Christmas tours/residencies, and the legacy residencies because they are now the main way she makes money. What happens when the public gets tired of the Christmas song (as many clearly have)? Twenty years ago the Christmas song was played a good deal without the big promotional push behind it. Many people used to love hearing it, but I do think it's become too ubiquitous. And I think her attempt at trademarking "Queen of Christmas" and the "It's Time" videos are probably alienating some people.
(Friday 5 December 2025; 15:51)
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2026 Plans for Here For It All? (112,600)
by Bobby A from United States
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I don't think there will a deluxe version now for several reasons. HFIA faded quicker than Caution. The support from Gamma was not there two weeks after the album dropped. September 26th was just the wrong release date for HFIA. Type Dangerous was released June. Sugar Sweet was not promoted for success on the charts. Do you see what I am saying?
Also, it seems like we are seeing a decline in MC's Christmas holiday popularity. Her Christmastime shows are not selling out. Sony didn't do anything special for Merry Christmas or AIWFCIY this holiday season. Even radio airplay for AIWFCiY this year is down compared to last year. Michael Buble's Christmas is #1 on iTunes while MC's Merry Christmas is #14. Is MC's popularity during the Christmas holiday season waning?
(Friday 5 December 2025; 07:06)
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2026 Plans for Here For It All? (112,595)
by BFF from United States
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Has anyone heard anything about what will happen in the New Year? Are there still plans to release a deluxe edition of HFIA? The Mimi Anniversary is over, so surely there will be some kind of tour dates and/or residencies planned for 2026. I still wish they had released the album a bit earlier in 2025 so it wasn't competing for attention with Celebration of Mimi and Christmas engagements.
(Thursday 4 December 2025; 16:00)
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Here it comes (112,588)
by BFF from United States
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It is very likely that Mariah will take back the record for most weeks at #1 on the Hot 100. My guess is 2-3 weeks at #1 this season. She's closing in on 100 cumulative weeks at #1 on the Hot 100. The closest competitor for that record is Rihanna (nearly 40 weeks less). MC is kind of unstoppable when it comes to these chart records. If only she could drop two more #1 records.
(Wednesday 3 December 2025; 20:45)
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Here it comes (112,584)
by Edward from USA
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"AIWFCIY" is about to hit 100 next week, but Brenda's "RATCT" is sharpening candy canes and plotting. Fingers crossed.
(Tuesday 2 December 2025; 23:30)
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Prince (112,565)
by BFF from United States
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Prince recorded multiple studio versions of other artists' songs and included them on albums. All of the following covers he recorded appeared on one of his studio albums (included in parentheses):
Betcha By Golly Wow by The Stylistics (Emancipation) I Can't Make You Love Me by Bonnie Raitt (not written by Raitt but still a cover) (Emancipation) Every Day Is A Winding Road by Sheryl Crow (Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic) A Case of You by Joni Mitchell (One Nite Alone...) Crimson and Clover by Tommy James and the Shondells (Lotusflow3r)
I think it's totally fine for artists to voice a dislike for other people covering their songs and then turn around and cover other artists' songs.
(Sunday 30 November 2025; 22:15)
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Prince (112,552)
by Lambi from USA
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Prince covered songs all the time though like Just My Imagination, Superstition, and Come Together, but only live and never on record. He did not like the idea of other people making money off his work, and Mariah probably feels the same way. Live performances seems to be fine but releasing them commercially is not. By that metric, she was not dissing Muni at all.
I also do not think Mariah is complaining. She was even smiling here. She has always shown love to people who sampled her songs. She appreciated Like Mariah by Fifth Harmony, she approved Emotionless by Drake, she even jumped in on the Big Energy Remix and used Bryson Tillers SIO sample for a transition in concerts. She has consistently been supportive of people who sample her music tastefully.
There is nothing inherently wrong with covering songs anyway. Mariah debuted with all originals, but when she was asked to do a cover for MTV Unplugged (just for TV), she then realized she could absolutely elevate a song. And had no problem doing on record: Without You, Open Arms and all that came after.
But before I'll Be There, they originally wanted her to cover Aretha's Natural Woman, but out of respect for Aretha, Mariah went to Carole King and asked to write something new instead, and that is how If It's Over was born. She is at the core, a true songwriter, just like Prince, and really wanted make that a statement. And today I feel she really proved it.
(Sunday 30 November 2025; 04:07)
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Muni Long what? (112,525)
by BFF from United States
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The thing is, Mariah wasn't rude to Muni Long and didn't say anything negative about her. That shot of her at the awards show during the tribute was taken out of context and was soon after her mother and sister passed away. Mariah was clearly out of sorts, was trying to put on her best game face, and had no idea what she looked like on camera. She even thanked both Muni Long and Tori Kelly during her acceptance speech.
Mariah saying she doesn't like people covering her songs after the fact is not a diss. It doesn't necessarily mean she thinks Muni Long did a bad job. Maybe she doesn't like people covering her songs because it puts her on the spot to "say something nice" regardless of the quality of the cover?
Muni Long knew exactly what she was doing and got the reaction/outcome she wanted. Too bad that she's so insecure that she cannot have the focus be on her talent alone.
(Wednesday 26 November 2025; 14:10)
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Muni Long what? (112,516)
by Bobby A from United States
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Muni Long is known to throw shade at other artists. She threw shade at the R&B singer Lyfe Jennings about his classic song, Must Be Nice sounding resentful and bitter and not appreciative back in August. That is Lyfe's most popular song that everyone still loves today. Muni Long shading him came out of nowhere. Muni Long must have been writing her song Delulu back in August. Anyway, I just wanted to give some context to as to why now Muni Long would throw shade about comments MC made during a GQ magazine. Muni Long likes throwing shade for her own benefit. She is trying to promote her song Delulu because it has yet to debut on the Mediabase Urban AC radio chart. Her instagram shade video was not warranted for an artist who has always sang praises about Muni Long since her 2018 Colored album when she was Priscilla Renea. I don't know if I am a fan of Muni Long now.
(Tuesday 25 November 2025; 13:24)
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Damizza won't stop vomiting untruths (112,399)
by BFF from United States
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I actually believe it in the sense that I think the idea was proposed to Mariah by Island/Def Jam but she shot it down really quickly. It sounds like the proposal came around 2002-2004 when Jennifer Lopez's career was surging and Mariah was still in the wilderness from the "Glitter" fallout. I don't think the duet was ever going to happen, but the idea being proposed to her sounds credible to me. I also remember Mariah recording a version of "Yours" with Justin Timberlake and the information that Mariah had collaborated with Daniel Bedingfield as well. It sounds like Island/Def Jam was trying to pressure Mariah into these duets to ensure a "hit" for "Charmbracelet", but it was clear that Mariah's vision for "Charmbracelet" was healing and catharsis and not commercial appeal.
I think it was the right move to table all of these collaborations during that period. Otherwise, Mariah would have been accused of riding those people's coattails back to the charts.
(Saturday 15 November 2025; 14:53)
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Damizza won't stop vomiting untruths (112,390)
by Randy from USA
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I saw this and cursed out my phone. This never happened. Like MC once said, what would that sound like, I sing and she does something else. I totally don't believe it and I wish he'd get a life or a career besides discussing a woman he hasn't seen or talked to in 20+ years. Dirtball. Every time he talks I feel the need to bathe in some sudsy ammonia. I hope he's not on the hand.
(Friday 14 November 2025; 21:16)
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Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,372)
by BFF from United States
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I 100 percent think that this is what will happen. Mariah will definitely see the news about the auction and will surely be able to outbid anyone in the process. She has spoken at length about how she believes her demos were superior to what ended up on the debut album. This would be an incredible opportunity to once and for all silence the people who claim that she would have not been successful without Tommy. After watching Arthur Baker's video, I am interested to know about the other seven songs that he didn't listen to. I wonder how many songs from the demo ended up on the album. Surely there is something on there we haven't heard.
(Wednesday 12 November 2025; 17:10)
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Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,363)
by Bill from the UK
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Wow. I hope Mariah bids and wins the auction and then releases this gem for us all to enjoy.
(Wednesday 12 November 2025; 08:34)
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Don't take it political (112,283)
by BFF from United States
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Yeah, and do the people of your "region" have anything to say about the treatment of women and LGBT people? As much as I disagree with Israel's actions and the US government's financial support of Israel, I think the countries surrounding Israel are guilty of very similar human rights abuses (or worse) against their own populations. Over 90 percent of Palestinians believe that gay people should be thrown in prison and/or put to death. Sorry, but as a gay man, I will not go out of my way to "support" the human rights of people who think I should be executed or imprisoned for simply existing.
(Thursday 6 November 2025; 18:03)
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Don't take it political (112,277)
by Lara from Middle East
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It's not a trend, it's not someone dictating which flag to display on social media. Geronimo makes lot of correct points and I agree with a lot of them, specially coming from the region that is directly hurt from this genocidal entity. But also no need to take it that deep. Enjoy the music and pray for an awakening. Meanwhile I'll enjoy the drone over my head.
(Thursday 6 November 2025; 15:53)
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Mariah Carey - socially tone deaf? Nothing new (112,256)
by BFF from United States
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Being angry at Mariah Carey for being rich and getting endorsement deals = first world problems.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 20:22)
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Mariah Carey - socially tone deaf? Nothing new (112,252)
by Dove from United States
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So you think people should just be miserable all the time? Even the girl in Precious would pretend she was a famous singer to escape her wretched life for a few minutes. Enjoying the few nice things we have left doesn't mean we don't care about or see what's happening. Watching a movie or listening to an album is better than using drugs or other unhealthier mechanisms to cope.
I agree with Lee. Her charity work speaks for itself. She's not a "Let Them Eat Cake" rich and never has been. There is no way you can compare her to the Trumps.
Another thing, a lot of us who have been through a lot of trauma do disassociate to cope with life sometimes. But for example when my brother (who is a lot smarter than me) explains things to me and invites me to protests and parades, of course I go. I feel like Mariah is the same way. She chooses the right side. Even if she's not glued to propaganda channels all day.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 11:32)
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Justice for Glitter: A Residency Concept (111,935)
by BFF from United States
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Just for laughs since we’re coming up on the 25 anniversary in 2026.
1. Loverboy (MJ Cole Remix) (Intro) 2. Loverboy (Firecracker version) 3. Heartbreaker (No Rap version) / Attack Of The Name Game / If You Should Ever Be Lonely medley 4. Don’t Stop (Funkin’ 4 Jamaica) 5. Turn You Loose 6. Out Here On My Own 7. All My Life 8. Want You 9. Loverboy (Candy version) 10. Reflections 11. Twister 12. Last Night A DJ Saved My Life (No Rap version)
Encore: 13. Never Too Far / Hero medley 14. Never Too Far / Hero medley (Al B. Rich Inspiration Mix) (Outro)
I still think there are some unreleased tracks from the Glitter sessions. Hopefully we get to hear more rarities soon.
(Friday 17 October 2025; 03:17)
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Thoughts (111,825)
by BFF from United States
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I have to say that I am super disappointed in the launch and performance of the album. I didn't expect a massive single or huge sales like Taylor Swift or Beyonce, but I think a Top 40 single like "#Beautiful" was definitely a realistic goal. I agree with T's post. "Type Dangerous" was the right launch single - it outperformed all of the singles released from "Caution" and was her first non-Holiday solo Hot 100 appearance in a decade (last one was "Infinity" in 2015). It was positioned in much the same way that "It's Like That" was in 2005 to drum up buzz for "The Emancipation of Mimi".
They should have pivoted to "Play This Song" as the second single rather than "Sugar Sweet." A duet with Anderson .Paak had a much better chance of taking off on the charts after the momentum built by TD.
I definitely called this months ago when I wrote that the album release was too close to the Holiday season. The album seemed ready to go back in June, so they could have released it in July/August. But they waited too long and made the wrong single choices and now HFIA is quickly being memory holed by the overseas Mimi anniversary tour engagements and Mariah's annual Christmas blitz.
I love the album, and I am proud that Mariah put out something so great. But it's frustrating to wait seven years and then have the album perform so poorly. Tina Turner, Cher, Madonna, and Aretha Franklin were all still having Top 40 hits into their 50s, and I just felt that Mariah had at least one more non-Holiday midsized or big hit in the cards.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 17:53)
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Thoughts (111,809)
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I guess now all we have to look forward to is her annual "It's time" video. HFIA is probably done on the charts. HFIA just had too much of a waste hype period (AI term from an answer about why labels frown about social media song drops by artists) from two weeks after SS was released to the album released date. The waste hype period was too long without a Top 10 single like Obsessed. A third single like Obsessed ft. Bruno Mars is what HFIA needed after SS was released. Oh well, I feel MC17 won't take seven years to be released since MC knows now that her music still intrigues people.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 09:59)
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The problem with every lamb - HFIA charts (111,789)
by BFF from United States
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Fans care about the charts because Mariah cares about the charts. She has marketed herself as the "biggest selling female recording artist in US history" since the early 2000s. The Forbes magazine article about her partnership with Gamma explicitly stated she and the team were interested in surpassing The Beatles' record for most #1 singles in United States history. She wouldn't launch into festive overdrive every year to notch more weeks at #1 for AIWFCIY if she didn't care about charts.
Mariah has always been willful, ambitious and tenacious; and it is one of the things I have always admired about her. I don't expect a number one record every single time, but I definitely want Mariah to succeed. I love her ambition and the fact that she is a boss lady in a way that Beyonce and Taylor Swift can only dream about.
(Friday 10 October 2025; 14:15)
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The problem with every lamb - HFIA charts (111,783)
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The problem is that they are enslaved to Mariah's charting power like anything that she outputs must be a hit, a number 1 or even a top 5.
They forget Mariah the musician and artist and dwell on chart positions. Yes, there is a thrill to it like gambling but afterwards it's just a number. Albeit, the curse was initiated by herself too. An artist who is commercially successful yet maintains art integrity is hard to find.
I would rather have her do 25 quality albums than work for the charts dominated by artists who cared about numbers. If you know you know.
(Friday 10 October 2025; 06:36)
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Mariah and Gamma (111,769)
by BFF from United States
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I think a lot of recording artists make the mistake of believing that producing art alone is enough. The music industry is a business and that means turning some kind of profit is necessary. If you want something to be successful, you have to work hard for it. In the major label system, artists often complain about being exploited and sometimes they are. But the reality is that the record companies invest a lot of money in the artists. So some level of discomfort has to be tolerated in order to ensure a project's success. Mariah worked really hard in the early 1990s producing some stuff that the label wanted and some stuff that she was passionate about. The commercial clout she built allowed her to pivot to passion projects from 1997-2001 with some great (Butterfly) and not-so-great (Glitter) results.
Gamma's leadership can talk endlessly about being "independent" and nurturing artists, but it will not be a successful enterprise if it continues investing money in projects without delivering numbers to support the infrastructure of the company. And I'm sure investors will begin pulling out if Gamma continues with a poor track record.
The "Type Dangerous" video looked expensive to me. Why invest all of that money into the first single, drop the ball with "Sugar Sweet", and release the album right before Mariah pivots to international tour dates for "The Celebration of Mimi" and a Vegas Residency for Christmas?
(Wednesday 8 October 2025; 16:15)
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Mariah and Gamma (111,767)
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HFIA is a cohesive, emotionally expressive piece of art. To everyone worried about the numbers, and thinking Mariah should be with a major label, I don't think these things matter anymore. The album sold well, Mariah sounds great, in every interview she seems genuinely engaged and has that sparkle back in her eyes.
It's early days, but Gamma appears to be the right label [for] Mariah. I'd take a company that prioritizes my mental wellbeing over profits any day.
(Wednesday 8 October 2025; 14:22)
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Article: Mariah Carey debuts in Billboard's top 10 (111,760)
by BFF from United States
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It isn't the fans' fault. Gamma waited too long after the "Type Dangerous" launch to release the album. TD performed well at R&B radio and probably could have peaked higher than #95 on the Hot 100 if they had pushed it harder and not pivoted to "Sugar Sweet". The album really should have come out in July or August when Mariah did not have so many shows scheduled.
The 9/26/25 date was too close to Mariah's international tour dates in Indonesia, Singapore, etc. and was too close to the Christmas season. This is what happened with the "Caution" rollout. They released the album too late in the year, and it faded from memory pretty quickly.
(Tuesday 7 October 2025; 19:08)
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Article: Mariah Carey debuts in Billboard's top 10 (111,750)
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I don't want to come off rude to the Lambily, however, these sales are pathetic and unfortunately lower than her first week sales of Caution. Mariah currently has 14.5 million followers on Instagram, 12.3 million subscribers on YouTube and 20.8 million followers on X and only managed to sell 39,000 physical copies of "Here For It All" plus the lousy streaming numbers that only made up the rest of 51,000 total album units. It's been almost 7 years since she's released a full album and then this disaster happens. I understand that people aren't going to like everything on any album that she releases, but it's all about support for your favorite artist and she's just not receiving that. I honestly wouldn't be surprised now if it was another 7+ years before we even get another album. This is why other countries like Brazil and Japan get more of Mariah than we do in the United States. The lambily needs to do better, please.
(Tuesday 7 October 2025; 04:07)
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Here for everything but it all (111,705)
by BFF from United States
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Yeah. I concur with this completely. Can we please stop hearing about Eminem and Jennifer Lopez already? Does Andy Cohen not have anything more interesting to ask her? I am sick to death of the "I don't know her" nonsense. Mariah has a brilliant new album out, and these people opt to ask her about dumb feuds from the 2000s or a mediocre "grunge" album she made in 1995 while goofing off after hours with Walter and company.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 14:30)
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Here for everything but it all (111,696)
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A quick Google search of Mariah Carey's name and the top 5 news articles are about: a secret MJ duet, a secret rock album, Eminem, still not knowing JLo, and the Christmas tour. Gee, I wonder why the album is not in the top 5 on Billboard? I guess a new artist can debut high because it literally is all about the music, but as an act reaches their sixteenth album all everyone cares about is everything else.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 03:39)
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Article: Mariah Carey arrives in Jakarta with Ondel-Ondel welcome (111,689)
by BFF from United States
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Yeah, you may be right about it being her idea. But it did kind of irritate me when Questlove made a remark about it being Mariah’s best record. Even if he was joking, it just annoys me that people are diverting attention away from HFIA, which happens to be really great and that fans have been waiting on for seven years. Hopefully the deluxe edition will help revive some momentum after the Mimi tour and the Christmas residency.
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Article: Mariah Carey arrives in Jakarta with Ondel-Ondel welcome (111,688)
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Honestly I think it was Mariah who asked for them to bring up SUD because there's no way all the interviews kept asking her about it when really no one other than lambs know about it. And I also don't get the point of her insisting on wasting time talking about it when it seems at least from what she says that she doesn't know who owns the rights to it and how she can release it. She's been randomly bringing it up and it never goes anywhere. She should just focus on HFIA and I'm a bit disappointed that she doesn't have much stories to share about her writing process when the question comes up either from the interviewer or the fans. She's very vague and very airy about it yet she keeps saying that people don't give her credit for writing her songs. I also get annoyed that she keeps saying "it's in my book" like girl one promo at a time.
(Friday 3 October 2025; 22:15)
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Article: Mariah Carey arrives in Jakarta with Ondel-Ondel welcome (111,687)
by BFF from United States
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Yeah, that's why I was a little irritated during the US promo interviews when interviewers started asking her about "Someone's Ugly Daughter" rather than HFIA. She had a relatively narrow time interval to promote the album, and it really should be the focus because it's a great body of work.
I think they should have put the album out much sooner, closer to the release of "Type Dangerous". She wasn't as busy with tour engagements during the Summer, so she could have devoted more time to the album. I know some people did not like "Type Dangerous", but it caught fire in a way like none of her single releases since "#Beautiful".
They should have pushed the first single a lot harder and planned better so that "The Celebration of Mimi" shows were not diverting attention away from the album. She has tour engagements planned for all of October and into the first week of November, and then the Christmas residency starts on November 28. It seems like they are just going to let the album fade away like they did with "Caution".
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Article: Mariah Carey arrives in Jakarta with Ondel-Ondel welcome (111,685)
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Whoever is managing her needs to wake up. Fine, she's left the USA but if she's going overseas they should at least mention the new album in these articles. Pushing 'The Celebration of Mimi' at this point makes zero sense. She just released an album. That would be like Taylor Swift going around promoting 1989 right now.
(Friday 3 October 2025; 15:11)
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