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Who she'd rather? (90,104) by Randy from USA All this Madonna talk made me think of a new game. MC has had beef with all of the following divas at one point in time. If it was the last studio on earth, who would Mariah most likely collaborate with: Nikki Minaj, Madonna, Christina Aguilera, Ariana Grande, Jennifer Lopez or Demi Lovato? Come on guys you have to pick one. (Thursday 27 June 2019; 16:08)

Re: Madame X (90,101) (90,103) by Andrew from London UK Madonna is far from likeable. However, her personality and her musical creativity are mutually exclusive. To criticise her as "calculated" for being on trend musically is hilarious. If Mariah hadn't been stuck in the past for the last decade she might have sold a lot more than she has. Take Almost Home. It is an absolute smash hit as far as the fans are concerned. Yet, Mariah not only abandoned anywhere it may take her musically but also dismissed it with her own criticism. The result? MIAM and You're Mine (Eternal), Infinity, Infurmurz, I Don't. (Thursday 27 June 2019; 14:29)

Re: Madame X (90,100) (90,102) by Shezz from Pk I grew up on Madonna and then fell in love with Mariah mid 90s. Madonna will always be my first love and her pre 2000s catalog is as nostalgiac for me as Mariah's is if not more. Ofcourse I never "stanned" her half as much as I do Mariah but I can't deny her power (that was). Take a Bow is one of my favourite songs of her's but I totally loved Ray of Light as well, it was her Butterfly in so many ways. Totally new territory lost her a lot of fans but adventurous and revolutionary. Music had some gems as did Confessions on a Dancefloor. I find current Mariah head and shoulders above current Madonna. (Thursday 27 June 2019; 12:21)

Re: Madame X (90,084) (90,101) by Tijl from Belgium "Ray Of Light" is an all time favourite because to me it feels as an authentic and genuine album telling a personal story whereas most of Madonna's other work comes across as very calculated to be in sync with the current trends, especially her later work. "Confessions" is a fun record yet could also have been made by the likes of Kylie or any other dance diva. I don't care about "Madame X" one bit. What I have seen of Madonna in the media of lately was a fading star desperately trying to be relevant. Especially her interview at Graham Norton made me feel sorry for her. Madonna is an iconic popstar but to me she doesn't come across as a very likeable woman. (Thursday 27 June 2019; 10:33)

Re: Madame X (90,097) (90,100) by Special K from USA Hmm, I think Take A Bow edges out Secret but that damn Hung Up slaps the dog mess out of both of those songs. I'll take old school Madonna anyday. I was listening to Everybody, Lucky Star, Angel, Holiday and Dress You Up the other day straight getting my dance groove on. Madonna's catalog is bannanas. I have the majority of Madonna's albums but she kind of lost me with Ray Of Light but redeemed herself with Music. Hard Candy was a hot mess. Confessions On The Dance Floor and Bedtimes Stories are her best albums in my opinion. I'm still going to give Madame X a try. (Thursday 27 June 2019; 02:56)

Re: Madame X (90,097) (90,099) by Andrew from London UK Ray of Light and Confessions on a Dancefloor are seminal albums in modern music history. To ignore their importance or their brilliance is a bit ridiculous. But at least Madonna has always tried new things with each album. Mariah is stuck repeating the same old sounds over and over again. That's why there is a malaise when it comes to Mariah's new releases. You've heard most of it before. You only really care if you are an avid fan. (Wednesday 26 June 2019; 19:36)

Re: Madame X (90,097) (90,098) by Licia from USA No Bill Take A Bow from that album is the greatest song ever. I do enjoy Secret though (one of my favorite videos). I actually love that whole album. I have all her albums from Bedtime Stories on back to the Madonna album. She lost me with the Ray of Light album and I came back briefly for the Music album. After that album there hasn't been anything that she's put out that has interested me. I did try to give this album a chance, but it's not good. (Wednesday 26 June 2019; 18:04)

Re: Madame X (90,096) (90,097) by Bill from the UK The only Madonna albums I've ever owned are Immaculate Collection (like everyone else in the world) and Bedtime Stories. The song Secret is the best thing she ever did. (Wednesday 26 June 2019; 15:19)

Re: Madame X (90,087) (90,096) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Okay, one, yes, it is just your preference that what most perceive as artistic growth comes across as a mess to you. But that's okay. Two, Caution is most definitely not a mess - all of the songs belong to that album and there is a consistent, plush nocturnal vibe that ties them all together. MIAMTEC is a mess, though. But I share your appreciation of Madonna as well. Yes, her albums have not been great since Confessions On A Dancefloor, and it's quite obvious why. Hard Candy marked the time when Madonna decided to chase trends instead of going against the grain. Every album she released since then followed suit. Hard Candy tried to capitalize on the Timbaland-Timberlake glory days, MDNA came at a time when the GaGa/Ke$ha EDM trend was dying down, Rebel Heart ended up being a victim of scattershot production in its attempt to throw Madonna into any genre to see what sticks, and Madame X, while being her best album since 2005, is her pandering heavily to the Latin market, like someone mentioned on this board earlier. My favorite album of hers is the very underrated Bedtime Stories. Forbidden Love, Love Tried To Welcome Me and Take A Bow are just golden. Critics are divided with Madame X. They either think it's her best in years or one of her worst ever. But as it currently stands, so far, it is her best reviewed album since Confessions On A Dancefloor, despite containing some very questionable lyrics and sonic choices, along with some of the most offensive themes she has tackled in her entire career. Her political and social stances are intended as stabs at "wokeness", but end up either being laughable or perpetuates the white savior trope. The most glaring thing about Madame X is that it showcases Madonna's voice at the worst shape it has been since the Like A Virgin era, but at least then she sounded human. She never has been the best vocalist, but she sounded adequate, even good, especially throughout the mid-90s to the mid-00s. Now, her voice is plastic, squeaky, cloying and marinated with autotune. However, given her horrific Eurovision performance, she definitely needed all the pitch correction in the world to make the album. (Wednesday 26 June 2019; 12:45)

Re: Most liked (90,078) (90,095) by enwar00 from usa B I like your list. Apart from AIWFCIU very downbeat and midtempo song choices, so in my minds sounds very chill. I like that vibe, maybe I'll make a playlist, add The Roof and Slipping Away for that extra smooth. (Wednesday 26 June 2019; 02:25)

Re: Charts (90,083) (90,094) by jaker20 from US Mariah also did bundles, but managed to debut only at no.5. But I'm glad Mariah is still serving quality 30 years into her career. This is what I want Mariah to focus on, not the charts. (Wednesday 26 June 2019; 01:12)

Re: Single choices for each album (90,090) (90,093) by Bill from the UK That's not how you spell Migrate. In all honesty I've been relatively okay with the choices made as singles, particularly during the 90s. I only wish the Butterfly singles all got worldwide full releases (only Honey and My All did) rather than specific singles for certain territories. One interesting fact was that And You Don't Remember was set to be the 4th single from Emotions, but was shelved when I'll Be There and Unplugged unexpectedly took off. I do also wonder how You're So Cold would have fared, had it been chosen as the first single from that album. (Wednesday 26 June 2019; 00:59)

Re: Single choices for each album (90,090) (90,092) by Hector from Mexico I agree in everything except Crybaby. That song should have been the second single from Rainbow. (Wednesday 26 June 2019; 00:25)

Re: Madame X (90,087) (90,091) by Hector from Mexico I love Madonna but Madame X is her worst album ever. Mariah has never released an album as bad as Madame X (fortunately). (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 23:36)

Re: Single choices for each album (90,085) (90,090) by Will from Australia That's very deep darling. I'll say my top 5 that shouldn't have been released: I Don't Boy Infinity Crybaby Don't Stop (F4J) (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 23:00)

Article: Mariah Carey is "stamping her heels" with frustration (90,089) by Travis from USA Whatever the case, Mariah is in her best self since the last few years. This is old news and I can't believe that a so called news source has to turn to this again. I think it's time to move on, get over it, and make like "Frozen" and let it go. (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 19:56)

Mariah reaching out on Twitter (90,088) by 90sMariah from SG I seldom go on Twitter anymore, but last week or was it two weeks ago when she RT'd a response to someone's tweet re: Miley Cyrus using MC initials and Mariah responded by tagging Eye Patch (Madonna) and the Nasal Chimpunk. Did she even get a response? (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 17:56)

Re: Madame X (90,084) (90,087) by Randy from USA I was a huge Madonna fan and some of her critically panned at the time albums were my favorites. American Life is a masterpiece to me. Confessions on a Dancefloor is a classic but Hard Candy, MDNA and Rebel Heart were a mess and not what I liked. I listened to snippets of Madame X and it's a mess and I won't buy it. So my point is that I respect Madonna and MC. But I haven't liked MC's last two albums either. MIAMTEC and Caution are a mess compared to the rest of her discography. What is it about pop artists and changing their music and alienating their fan base? Celine only releases Adult contemporary. Whitney released an Adult R&B album as her last. I don't want trendy or what you think is growth as an artist. I want what you've always done. Maybe it's just me. I will not be buying Madame X and mark my words if MC releases another experimental trendy R&B record it will be the first album of hers in history I will not buy. (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 17:16)

Re: Songs most liked that I am listening in 2019 (90,086) by Gilles from Malta Mariah Carey - there's got to be a way - prisoner- sent from up above Emotions - the wind - so blessed - till the end of time - and you don't remember Music Box - music box - everything fades away - never forget you - all i've had ever wanted - just to hold you once again MC - miss you most - aiwfciy - holy night - baby please come home - miss you most - hark the heralds angels sing Daydream - underneath the stars - long ago - melt away - when I saw you- i am free - looking in - one sweet day - forever - fourth of july - babydoll - whenever you call Butterfly - fourth of july - babydoll - fly away remix - the roof - beautiful ones #1s - i still believe - do you know - sweetheart Rainbow - can't take that away morales - rainbow - bliss Glitter - lead the way - want you - never too far - don't stop Charmbracelet - bringin' on the heartbreak - subtitle invitation - my saving grace - lullaby - through the rain remix The Remixes - miss you - thank god I found you (make it last) TEOM - circles - say something - make it last - I wish you knew - joyride E=MC2 - for the record - I wish you well MOAIA - the impossible - it's a wrap - languishing - hate you MCIIY - christmastime's in the air again - when christmas comes - o little town of bethlehem - oh come all ye faithfull MIAMTEC - faded - dedicated - beautiful - cry - camouflage Caution - caution - a no no - with you - givin' me life - portrait B sides: tiumphant - don't forget about us so so def - unforgettable Have a nice week guys. (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 17:11)

Single choices for each album (90,085) by The Real Deal from USA New topic. If I was A&R, here would be my single choices for each album. 1. Mariah Carey - I would keep the singles as they were (Vision Of Love, Love Takes Time, Someday, I Don't Wanna Cry), but I would've released There's Got To Be A Way and Prisoner simultaneously to radio at the same time as promo only tracks. 2. Emotions - I would keep releases as they were (Emotions, Can't Let Go, Make It Happen), but would've sent "If It's Over" to adult contemporary radio for promo only airplay and "To be Around You" to pop radio for promo only airplay. 3. Music Box - Dreamlover, Hero, Without You/Now That I Know (as a double single), Anytime You Need A Friend, All I've Ever Wanted 4. Daydream - Fantasy, One Sweet Day, Always Be My Baby, Open Arms, Underneath The Stars, Melt Away 5. Butterfly - Honey, Butterfly, My All, Breakdown, The Roof, Babydoll 6. Rainbow - Heartbreaker, Thank God I Found You, Against All Odds, How Much (but remixed), After Tonight 7. Glitter - Loverboy, Lead the Way, Never Too Far, Last Night A DJ Saved My Life 8. Charmbracelet - Through The Rain, The One, Yours, I Only Wanted, Bringin' On The Heartbreak 9. The Emancipation Of Mimi - It's Like That, We Belong Together, Shake it Off, Say Somethin', Don't Forget About Us, Stay the Night 10. E=MC2 - Touch My Body, Migrate, Side Effects, I Stay In Love, I'm That Chick (but with intro, if no intro, then replace with Cruise Control) 11. Me. I Am Mariah... The Elusive Chaunteuse - Beautiful, Meteorite/Thirsty (double single - "Thirsty" to urban; "Meteorite" to dance club play remixers), Faded, You Don't Know What To Do, Dedicated 12. Caution - A No No, With You (it's actually my least favorite song, but a good reintroduction for "new" radio formats), The Distance, Stay Long Love You, Giving Me Life Songs from her albums that I would not have released as singles (physical or promo), these were released, but I would have nixed them: Never Forget You, Can't Take That Way, Crybaby, Reflections, Don't Stop (Funkin' For Jamaica), Boy (I Need You), Get Your Number, Fly Like A Bird, Bye Bye, GTFO (even though I like it) (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 17:02)

Madame X (90,084) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I actually took a listen to the album and I have to say it is an auto tuned mess. Also critics have not been too kind either. But respect to Madonna for still out here doing her thing, even if I don't subscribe to her or her art. (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 16:28)

Re: Charts (90,077) (90,083) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I wouldn't use the term "outlasted" as well. They're still in the game, killing it for women of their age in such an ageist industry. Madame X may have sold more because it was promoted better and Madonna has once again resorted to ticket-album bundling for her upcoming tour. (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 14:33)

Songs most liked (90,082) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Mariah Carey - Alone In Love and Sent From Up Above Emotions - The Wind Music Box - Never Forget You and Dreamlover MC - Miss You Most and AIWFCIY Daydream - Underneath The Stars, Fantasy and Melt Away Butterfly - Fourth Of July, Honey and Babydoll #1s - I Still Believe Rainbow - Heartbreaker and Crybaby Glitter - Lead The Way and Didn't Mean To Turn You On Charmbracelet - Boy (I Need You) and Lullaby The Remixes - Miss You TEOM - Circles and Your Girl E=MC2 - I Stay In Love, I'm That Chick and Cruise Control MOAIA - Ribbon, Candy Bling and It's A Wrap MCIIY - Christmastime Is In The Air Again and When Christmas Comes MIAMTEC - Make It Look Good, Faded and Dedicated Caution - Caution, A No No and Stay Long Love You (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 14:05)

Least liked (90,081) by Jeff from USA Mariah Carey - Alone in Love Emotions - You're So Cold Music Box - Hero Merry Christmas - Miss You Most (At Christmas Time) Daydream - I Am Free Butterfly - Butterfly Rainbow - Did I Do That? Glitter - Don't Stop (Funkin' 4 Jamaica) Charmbracelet - Boy (I Need You) TEOM - To the Floor E=MC2 - Bye Bye MOAIA - The Impossible MCIIY - One Child MIAM - Meteorite Caution - With You (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 13:55)

Most liked (90,080) by Jeff from USA Mariah Carey - Someday Emotions - Emotions Music Box - Anytime You Need a Friend Merry Christmas - O Holy Night Daydream - Long Ago Butterfly - Breakdown Rainbow - Crybaby Glitter - If We Charmbracelet - Subtle Invitation TEOM - Shake It Off E=MC2 - Side Effects MOAIA - Betcha Gon' Know MCIIY - Oh Santa MIAM - YDKWTD Caution - 8th Grade (Tuesday 25 June 2019; 13:49)

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