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About TJ from Norway:
I've been a fan since she released Vision of Love in 1990.
Insta: tony2909
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Type Dangerous (109,091)
by TJ from Norway
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I like the sound and rhythm. If there's one thing I would have done differently is the intro. That didn't do anything good to the song. I feel this one will be played a lot on my speakers. Well done MC.
(Friday 6 June 2025; 11:29)
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Financial terrorism (109,054)
by TJ from Norway
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Does that mean that Taylor Swift will disappear from the spotlight soon?
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 17:33)
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Financial terrorism (109,044)
by Lambi from USA
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Thank you, darling - I truly appreciate your response. I do try to stay aware of what's happening. I'm not trying to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I genuinely believe Morgan is a plant, and we should be cautious. He's shown time and again that he'll do just about anything for a quick payout.
Mariah is at a stage in her career where her success is not only undeniable - it's powerful. She confirmed a couple of years ago that she owns all of her masters: 86 singles and 15 studio albums, dating back to 1990. That level of ownership is incredibly rare, especially for someone who's not just the voice, but also the writer and producer. She's earning real revenue from her catalog, and that kind of power makes her a threat to certain people.
We've seen a similar pattern before. When Michael Jackson began acquiring ownership of his music - and even the rights to other artists' catalogs - it triggered serious pushback from powerful forces. It wasn't subtle, and it wasn't fair. I wouldn't be surprised if Mariah ends up facing similar tactics. It's something we should all be paying close attention to.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:41)
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Bill (109,015)
by TJ from Norway
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It's always fun to see how some people are going crazy for a short time, before they disappear again, or watching fans change their voice over the years. We need opinions like yours and Bills. Stay strong.
(Wednesday 4 June 2025; 10:11)
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Bill (109,003)
by Edward from USA
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Some people seriously need to get off their high horse. Bill is an appreciated member of this board. When he stepped away for a while, a lot of us genuinely missed him.
A bunch of us have been here for over a decade. We've supported Mariah through her ups and downs, bought the music, defended her when it counted, and yes, we've also kept it real when needed. We've seen plenty of people come and go, showing up with loud opinions and disappearing just as fast. Some may not like what Bill said, but no one here gets to question his or anyone else's place fandom.
If for some of you the idea of being a fan means clapping for everything and pretending everything's perfect all the time, that's not what this board is about. And if hearing a different opinion is too much for you, you might want to grab a helmet, it's 2025.
I've said it before: one of the reasons this board has lasted over 20 years is because it's always allowed for different opinions. Not just blind praise, but real talk too. That's what keeps it interesting. Every time this place turns into an echo chamber, it just dies out.
And yeah, sometimes we get frustrated and show a little tough love. But that's only because we know what Mariah is capable of. That doesn't mean we don't love her or support her any less.
I actually appreciate reading different opinions, even ones I don't agree with. That back and forth is what makes this board work. It's not a fan club where everyone's forced to say the same thing.
Bill, you've been part of this board for years, and most of us really value what you bring. Don't even think about disappearing.
(Tuesday 3 June 2025; 19:46)
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MC16 wish list (109,014)
by TJ from Norway
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I wish for that too. That would have been fabulous. I remember when I heard Vanishing for the first time, back in 1990. I was playing it over and over and it still remains one of my favourite songs. Pure, clean and real.
(Wednesday 4 June 2025; 10:08)
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MC16 wish list (109,005)
by Randy from USA
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Well, I know it ain't gonna happen but since I have a little extra time. I'd like an Adele-like album. No rap. No r&b. No vocal layering. No wall of background singers. Just her and piano or her and guitar. Some love songs mixed in with some hope songs mixed in with some introspective songs. Imagine a quiet album with songs as stripped down as Languishing, Close My Eyes, My All, With You, Camouflage, Vanishing, Music Box, Looking In, Reflections, Petals, Cry, Portrait. And for the voice. Maybe keep it down to what can be replicated live even if the venue is too cold, too hot, missing an umbrella holder, short circuits ear monitors, has no running water for humidifiers, only let you in with less than 7 hours sleep. And only use the whistle twice. Yeah, that would be a dope album.
(Tuesday 3 June 2025; 20:34)
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Show some humanity (108,991)
by TJ from Norway
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But should we make the criteria on who is real and not?
(Tuesday 3 June 2025; 10:47)
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Show some humanity (108,985)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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"A real fan knows." What does she means when she says in interviews or during concerts "my real fans know etc etc"?
(Tuesday 3 June 2025; 07:50)
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Show some humanity (108,975)
by TJ from Norway
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What is a real fan?
(Monday 2 June 2025; 21:31)
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Show some humanity (108,970)
by MC85 from Canada
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I am so grateful that you took the time and the love and the fortitude to write and post this, especially on this board. Beautifully written. "I couldn't have said it better" isn't enough. *It couldn't be said better.* Period.
You're the kind of true fan that I hope Mariah, somehow, knows that she still has, because she wouldn't know it reading the majority of the comments on this board.
She's a human. She's flawed. She's a treasure. She saved lives. She's older. She has feelings. All are true. If you're a fan, a real fan, then you just have to love her. That's all. I do.
(Monday 2 June 2025; 20:00)
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Music Box vs Daydream (108,953)
by TJ from Norway
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It's time to grow up.
(Monday 2 June 2025; 13:21)
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Music Box vs Daydream (108,950)
by Lambi from USA
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That's a new one. I'm very new here. Please show me this baby you speak of. I'd like to see if he is as strong debater and doesn't resort to calling anyone a "yasss queen". But the bone I pick with Edward is because he made a big deal with me saying Mariah is avoiding wrinkles. Which btw, is a very verifiable fact. I'm just throwing the ball back way harder now because you don't do that to new comers. I'm finding out he's rather weak in debate and can't actually defend why he believes what he believes. His points are easily debunkable and he can't present you any fact. [censored] He made fun of Mariah. A couple people stood up for Mariah and called him nasty. He now then say "wow okay I guess I'll just hibernate aw I'm so sad". Its like he did the bullying and now he's the victim. Do you see the level of derangement? And with you? I don't have any problem. You're rather polite. We disagree with Solange's remix but you've never been rude. Hope this helps.
(Monday 2 June 2025; 12:12)
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Favourites (108,943)
by TJ from Norway
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They are my favourites too. The live version of If it's Over on SNL is out of this world.
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 19:31)
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Nasty, nasty comment (108,941)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Great post. "I guess we in the Northern Europe drink so much that any American would say we were raging alcoholics." I live in an wine region, we have many wine festivals here (i just went on Friday to one) it's our culture. But yes, who knows what really happened to Mariah's voice? I think it's an combination of everything. "Vision of love" and "If it's over" are one of my favourites. The sound, her voice, the lyrics. Out of this world, pure Mariah magic. She will always be the best, if you look at her 90ies catalogue.
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 14:14)
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Nasty, nasty comment (108,939)
by TJ from Norway
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I don't know if I got your message right, so I wouldn't comment on that one, but some people do have a different sound after some years in the business, and other doesn't. If it is because of alcohol or not, I can't say. I know a few opera singers and they both drink and sing (concerts almost every day) with no problem combining that with drinking. I guess we in the Northern Europe drink so much that any American would say we were raging alcoholics, but still keep singing. Whitney and Dionne Warwick both sounded different from their debut and later in their careers. If that's because of drugs, I don't know. I think Mariah for some years was pushing her voice over a long period of time (1991-1996) and that combined with the whispering voice (really hurt your voice). If you listen to her singing after her debut, her voice was much lover when she sang live than in her recordings. Anyway alcohol or not, we'll never get that sound again.
I think I will be playing some Vision of Love today. And maybe some If it's Over.
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 11:51)
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Nasty, nasty comment (108,934)
by Lambi from USA
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Beyoncé has SirDavis American Whisky. She quite literally made an alcohol brand and sells them. She's so into drinking she made a whole business out of it. Mariah did the same with Black Irish. We can argue Beyoncé is a bigger alcoholic since SirDavis has 44% ABV, while Black Irish has 17%. However, Beyoncé has no vocal decline. If anything she got better. So no it's not alcoholism, your theory is ideologically inconsistent. Mariah simply has a different set of vocal cords, she has nodes and it only gets worse over time. And knowing Mariah's nonstop work ethic, she quickened her decline.
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:32)
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Happy anniversary (108,938)
by TJ from Norway
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I think all have different views on those albums. I for example can't stand OSD. Well that's not the complete truth because I love/like like half a minute of the song (near the end).
On the Daydream album these are the best ones: Fantasy, Long Ago, Open Arms, I am Free, Always Be My Baby and Forever.
On the Music Box album: Dreamlover, Hero, Anytime You Need a Friend, Music Box, Without You, Everything Fades Away and Never Forget You.
If I list them up, it would be something like this: 1. Dreamlover 2. Music Box 3. Fantasy 4. Anytime You Need a Friend 5. Hero 6. Open Arms 7. Without You 8. Never Forget You 9. Always be My Baby 10. Everything Fades Away 11. Long Ago 12. Forever 13. I am Free
I think I need to make this into a play list on Spotify. She has many good songs.
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 11:13)
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Happy anniversary (108,924)
by Randy from USA
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You know that's an interesting premise. And I'm ready to get off this stroke, medication, vocal nonsense. I feel like Music Box and Daydream are siblings with the same highs and lows. Each has monster hits (Dreamlover, Hero, Without You vs. Fantasy, One Sweet Day, Always Be My Baby). Each has a weakness (I've Been Thinking About You vs Long Ago). Each has a club song (Now That I Know vs. Daydream Interlude). Dave Jam Hall, Babyface and Walter make appearances on both. I think the reason Music Box is slightly weaker is Now That I Know sucks as much as I've Been Thinking About You so it has two weak tracks and Daydream has Looking In. There's no introspective, non-romantic love track on Music Box. Looking In is the precursor to Close My Eyes, Outside, Petals, Languishing and of course, the best Mariah Carey song of all time Right To Dream. So yea, to me Daydream is the better of the two but Music Box is no slouch. I still play tf out of Anytime You Need A Friend from Tokyo Dome and the Jermaine Dupri remix of Never Forget You. Oh and I do a nifty sing along to the male part of Everything Fades Away.
(Saturday 31 May 2025; 14:26)
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Happy anniversary (108,919)
by TJ from Norway
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Am I the only one who likes Music Box better than Daydream?
(Saturday 31 May 2025; 10:33)
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Happy anniversary (108,917)
by Tevin from USA
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Happy anniversary to the album that turned me into a Lamb. Even though Daydream will forever be the best album Mariah has ever created, TEOM holds a very special place in my heart.
(Saturday 31 May 2025; 05:18)
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TEOM 20 (108,898)
by TJ from Norway
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Not what I was hoping for, but I hope the rest of you guys finds it interesting.
(Friday 30 May 2025; 07:10)
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Eternal 12 (108,896)
by TJ from Norway
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Cheese fries. How American. Eat carrots and you will reverse the age, darling. I was until this day sure that she had at least one boob job (both left (Dolly) and right (Parton) of course). But nothing dramatic like Pamela in the 90s. Anyway, I don't need new music, but would love some old stuff. Grunge or not.
(Thursday 29 May 2025; 23:38)
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Eternal 12 (108,890)
by Edward from USA
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I agree. I think Mariah had a subtle nose job around the Daydream era, after that, it’s hard to tell because she contours her nose a lot. Aside from several minor touch-ups here an there, a great dose a Botox, some cheek fillers, the occasional honey facial, and her freezer chamber routine, I doubt she's had anything major done.
I remember when people swore she’d had multiple boob jobs, only for it to turn out she was just rocking some serious push-up bras. My sister swears by those too, she buys them every ten years, but her husband says they feel hard as rocks, I don't know what that means. Anyway, I’m getting cheese fries.
(Thursday 29 May 2025; 12:52)
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Eternal 12 (108,884)
by TJ from Norway
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I don't have any evidence on the case, but hasn't some fans here written about her lack of facial expressions and it (surgery) might a reason for it? I don't know. There has been times during her career that I have watched her on tv shows, and I have been thinking that her face looks different since last time I watched her perform. She's 56 this year, has tons of money and work in an industry where it's sadly "normal" to fix things.
Btw: 1 day, 14 hours and 39 minutes left before she release TEOM20.
(Wednesday 28 May 2025; 09:21)
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Eternal 12 (108,878)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I hope not. I can't stand the Kardashians. Naturally beauty is the best. I'm always shocked when I see Pricella Presley. You can't tell her age anymore, but there's no mimic, like a mask. I always think that's spooky. And she was auch a beautiful woman, she didn't need it. Women like Andie McDowell, Sigourney Weaver and Helen Mirren are super role models, they look good and natural.
(Tuesday 27 May 2025; 19:48)
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Eternal 12 (108,876)
by TJ from Norway
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Do you guys think Mariah and Chris Jenner have been to the same plastic surgeon? They have some similarities in their faces at the moment.
(Tuesday 27 May 2025; 14:42)
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Europe (108,873)
by TJ from Norway
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Capri, Sorrento, Amalfi and Positano. Lovely places to visit. Capri is expensive, so start saving money. I just love the scenery in Italy. Have fun.
(Tuesday 27 May 2025; 09:29)
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Europe (108,869)
by Bobby A from United States
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Okay. I am planning my first trip to Europe in 2026. I know I want visit Capri where MC recorded some tracks from Charmbraclet.
(Monday 26 May 2025; 18:54)
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One Heart, One Voice (108,864)
by TJ from Norway
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Hahaha.
(Monday 26 May 2025; 12:18)
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One Heart, One Voice (108,863)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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I don't think Walter sings, so I have no idea if their voices blend in together well.
(Monday 26 May 2025; 09:49)
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The Mimi session (108,807)
by TJ from Norway
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Lovely concert. Well done.
(Wednesday 21 May 2025; 23:24)
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Lol (108,797)
by TJ from Norway
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Like a drag show?
(Wednesday 21 May 2025; 11:36)
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Lol (108,794)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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Mariah is already a multi millionaires darling. She does't need to do voice trainig. This is not the 90's anymore. She can rely on pre-recorded track in which it's still her voice unlike other singer who used other singer's voice. All that matters is that she needs to look gorgeous on stage with the gowns, hair and make up.
(Wednesday 21 May 2025; 02:56)
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Biopic (108,758)
by TJ from Norway
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Hahahah. I love your list.
(Sunday 18 May 2025; 12:05)
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Biopic (108,756)
by Bill from the UK
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Those that know me also know lists bring me joy. For completeness, here is the current most up to date download of reasons why Mariah can't or doesn't sing anymore. Let me know if any need adding I've forgotten.
1. Ear monitor malfunction 2. No humidifiers 3. Too cold 4. Too hot 5. Stage fright 6. Corset too tight 7. Heels too high 8. Preserving her voice 9. Scared of Michael Jackson's casket 10. Didn't want to upstage the Queen of Soul 11. Wanted to respect her peers 12. Bronchitis 13. Stressful divorce/break up 14. Arm in a sling 15. Pregnant 16. Not pregnant 17. Nodules 18. Too many splashes 19. Medicated 20. Backing singers missed their cue 21. Backing singers singing her part now baby 22. Foiled by Dick Clarke Productions 23. Late for the sound check 24. Not enough sleep 25. Too much sleep 26. Bipolar 27. Food poisoning 28. Mic wasn't turned up 29. Shit happens 30. Avoiding wrinkles
(Sunday 18 May 2025; 11:15)
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Deeply concerned (108,737)
by TJ from Norway
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I think the overdose of botox during years makes her face expressionless. I know alot of people that ignore the danger of putting poison into their flesh and how it will effect them when they do it.
(Thursday 15 May 2025; 13:17)
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Deeply concerned (108,732)
by Bill from the UK
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For me, it's pretty obvious that Mariah has some debilitating health condition, and I'm surprised not more people think that or can see it like I can. The evidence is all around us. The truth will come out one day, and probably very soon.
(Thursday 15 May 2025; 01:36)
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by TJ from Norway
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Migrate? Never heard about that one. Is that one of those songs who never made it to the album, and have secretly leaked online?
(Thursday 8 May 2025; 14:02)
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Met Gala (108,678)
by Edward from USA
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It's not only you. "When I Feel It" is not a bad song, it's just an unpolished filler. I never heard anybody claim it was a potential hit. I like it more than "Secret Love" and "Sprung" though. The "Once in a Lifetime" ringtone, had it be turned into a full song, it would've been a great one. There's one song that nobody ever talks about that could've been #1, it's called " Migrate".
(Wednesday 7 May 2025; 23:47)
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Tommy book (108,673)
by TJ from Norway
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Thank you so much. I should read it myself, but then again, I have never opened her own book. It's in the bookshelf, resting for a rainy day.
(Monday 5 May 2025; 19:39)
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Tommy book (108,671)
by Jamie from UK
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So far he's acknowledged that she wanted to go in different directions from the start but also that she didn't like [Hero] and didn't want it on Music Box. He said that she said it was too white bread. He felt that deep down she loved it especially when it became such a big hit, but that he felt it was more that she didn't want her fiends to think she was selling out as such. But he ultimately said she was the one writing these lyrics and no one put those words into her head. I personally feel that she knew deep down these were great songs and the right direction but her own rebellious side wanted to distance herself from them. You can't force natural talent and those lyrics. He even says he should never have got involved the way he did, she should have kept it a business arrangement. He said he's seen it time and time again where artists want to move away from their core base. He is very complimentary of Mariah and accepts her upbringing and insecurities but again those early years of music no one was forcing her to write those lyrics, they came from the heart. Also he says that it was Mariah who proposed to him. I genuinely think he loved her and his own insecurities blinded him when she was wanting to experiment musically. Sometimes when people get together it can bring out the worst traits even when they both love each other.
(Monday 5 May 2025; 05:31)
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Tommy book (108,669)
by TJ from Norway
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I hope that you will bring some updates along the way. I am sure a lot of the readers on this board will call it pure fiction, but please bring the juice.
(Sunday 4 May 2025; 10:05)
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Tommy book (108,667)
by Jamie from UK
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I've just started reading Tommy Mottola's book from the point he met Mariah. Still got some to go but I was loving the part where he went down to the woodshop after Mariah said come down and meet Ben Marguiles. He says when he got there he was faced with Mariah singing. He said she was good on the demo but to hear her sing there in the woodshop studio was incredible and her voice was so powerful. It gave me goose bumps imagine witnessing that. He said it was then that he noticed her flirting with him and he had to speak to his therapist about her as he felt he was falling in love with her. I can't wait to read some more tonight.
(Saturday 3 May 2025; 20:36)
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401k (108,662)
by TJ from Norway
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401K I believe is an American thing about retirement and savings. I guess it was a poisoning reply, that shouldn't been on the board. I might be wrong, because I don't know the system there.
(Friday 2 May 2025; 20:51)
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401k (108,657)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I had to google what does that mean and I am still not sure did I get it right. It is exhausting to read these comments.
(Friday 2 May 2025; 11:11)
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