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Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,798) by Lambi from USA Monroe has a cute, smiley smirk. I think when you're around Mariah, who has that Hollywood-white, perfectly crafted veneer smile, and you're a teenager with braces, it's natural to feel a little self-conscious about smiling. But give Miss Monroe some time, she'll be flashing her beautiful straightened teeth pretty soon. (Tuesday 30 December 2025; 00:44) this is a reply to message 112,794

Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,794) by MusicfanJ from Germany I think Monroe doesn't look so happy on the pic. Or is it the typical teen look? No smile. Rocky is trying to be cool. Lol. But I'm sure they are not forced to wear the sweaters. But they now have a difficult age. The "easy" years are over. Mariah please keep them grounded. I'm always shocked how bizarre some kids from celebrities are. Mariah's kids always seemed very nice. (Monday 29 December 2025; 17:39)

Was Celine the original JLo? (112,797) by Lambi from USA In his book, Tommy says he had to strongly convince Celine and her manager husband to sing MHWGO for Titanic. Celine did not really like the song and only sang it once as a demo because Tommy insisted. His push for Celine's success becomes even clearer in a quote from record producer Michele Anthony, also included in Tommy's book: "Selling tens of millions of Celine records was really important for Tommy because it proved he had developed and broken another female vocalist who was now outselling Mariah. Being able to replicate what he had done with Mariah mattered deeply to him." Timing-wise, in 1997 Mariah was the biggest star in the world, undeniably the most talented, and should have been the most obvious choice to sing a guaranteed blockbuster soundtrack. The song was essentially guaranteed an Oscar and a Grammy, and with Walter producing, Mariah should have at least been offered the opportunity. But no, Tommy said Celine was the first and only singer he ever offered the song to. Whitney had The Bodyguard. Celine now had MHWGO. Two of Mariah's biggest rivals had massive hit movie soundtracks, and she had none. As a lamb, I know Mariah wanted credibility in the movie world very badly. Do you think this is why Mariah developed such an inevitable, and possibly misplaced, disdain toward Celine? The Divas Live incident only made it worse. I actually side with Celine here. Aretha clearly said "help me lift it", and Celine simply did. Mariah's voice was shot. It feels like Celine had already been chosen over her privately, and now it was being publicly confirmed as to why. I felt her ego was so deeply bruised she had to go on tangents years later about it. I thought it was also unnecessary to include it in her book. Anyway, not really trying to bring in old drama into the New Year, I've just been reading people's memoirs and found these very interesting. (Monday 29 December 2025; 22:28)

Olympics - Nothing is Impossible (112,796) by Lambi from USA It's personal, yet some parts of it will resonate with a lot of athletes, especially "survived a gruesome fall". Many of them have had to endure major injuries before reaching the Olympic level. Then there are lines like "surely, I couldn't find a friend" which feels a bit of a mismatch for what is supposed to be a motivational moment. That said, Mariah takes songwriting assignments seriously. I put her in a totally different category than regular singers. She really doesn't miss the mark when a specific occasion calls for a specific song. She wrote 100% for the Winter Olympics, and she repurposed Through the Rain with Make It Happen during COVID. So I don't doubt she'll come up with something clever. (Monday 29 December 2025; 20:50) this is a reply to message 112,792

Olympics - Nothing is Impossible (112,792) by Terna from Nigeria I sure do hope this song is not the song for the Olympics, and not even her next single. Its lyrics are too personal and very specific to that dark time in her career (Glitter), there isn't anything uplifting about NII, sorry to state the obvious. It is a revisit to a very dark time in Mariah's career and life. Mariah is a songwriter who can easily come up with a song much more in vein, vibe, melody and lyrical content suitable for the Olympics - an uplifting, healing song and moment for this time. God knows the world needs healing right now. And said song is not (all caps) "Nothing is Impossible". Haven't we already been hinted at such a song in the past? I recall "Reach for the sky" being said, was for an Olympic type event. Well, now might just be the time. (Monday 29 December 2025; 13:35)

Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,790) by Lambi from USA Nah they're part of her entourage. Usually the team gets free merch during a tour. I bet you Roc and Roe themselves insisted they get those ones. No need to add new meaning to it. (Monday 29 December 2025; 07:07) this is a reply to message 112,783

Article: Mariah Carey's twins tower over her (112,783) by TJ from Norway Time flies and this picture is a proof of that. I might be very critical, but why on earth do the twins need to wear pullovers with her face on? I find that a bit, what should I say? Narcissistic? Anyway, I also want to say happy Christmas to all of you guys. I hope the Archives will be up and running next year. We are not a big crowd anymore, but it's nice to visit this site. Thank you so much for all that you do for this community, Eric. See you all in 2026, hopefully with a new album full of old music. (Sunday 28 December 2025; 10:45)

IYF vs NII (112,782) by Lambi from USA I'm usually always right. LMAO. Just kidding. And aw that kind of makes me emotional. Mariah always credited Patricia, "This is my mommy and my very good friend and she taught me how to sing, she taught me how to harmonize" and in the same interview, Mariah's face got cut off but you can tell she was so touched when Pat proclaimed, "I think that Mariah was a born singer, I think there are people who are gifted." MC almost got emotional for being praised by a very strict vocal coach and deep inside, you know Pat was very proud of what she birthed into the world. (Sunday 28 December 2025; 01:12) this is a reply to message 112,776

IYF vs NII (112,776) by Bobby A from United States Lambi, you may be right. The main theme for the ceremony is "Harmony" (Armonia). MC might be writing a brand new song with DJ Snake. She probably wants her performance to appeal more on a global stage through a new song with DJ Snake. The melody and instrumentation of Let Me Love You comes to my mind. (Friday 26 December 2025; 13:42)

IYF vs NII (112,775) by Lambi from USA She may use parts of NII that are appropriate specifically, "The spirit lives in my soul, so I'll never let go, I knew deep down inside that I can fly" but the rest of the song feels too personal. It would likely be a medley of Hero, Make It Happen, and NII. Or she may simply write a brand-new song specifically for this Olympics, like she did for the 2010 Winter Olympics with 100%, since writing inspirational, motivational songs comes naturally to MC. I really love 100%, though, and I hope she considers including that one. (Friday 26 December 2025; 09:46) this is a reply to message 112,753

IYF vs NII (112,753) by Zachariah from Croatia NII for sure. It would be perfect for the Olympics. (Tuesday 23 December 2025; 19:11)

Roc and Roe (112,774) by Lambi from USA Rocky has Mariah's face with Nick's facial structure. I always felt he was the more photogenic one of the two when they were babies. But now Miss Monroe doesn't wear her glasses as much, has braces, and is learning makeup. I loved when she did her look like Olivia Rodrigo. She's already very pretty, and once she gets out of that awkward teenage phase most girls go through, she's going to be even more beautiful. Kim Kardashian even said she's the prettiest girl. And with all the funds and beauty resources Mommy has, she's on track to be an absolutely stunning young lady. (Friday 26 December 2025; 09:25) this is a reply to message 112,770

Roc and Roe (112,770) by Bobby A from United States Roc is looking more like Nick as he gets older and Roe is looking like 19th year old MC in an X Christmas day post today. Roc and Roe have really grown up. (Thursday 25 December 2025; 20:45)

One Child fully live rehearsal (112,773) by Lambi from USA Mariah looks like it's 1997 again in this video, what a rare treat. It's so refreshing to see her actually take the singing seriously, fully concentrated on hitting each note perfectly. Once in a long while, 90's Mariah reappears in the 2000s, and this is one of those moments. It's also interesting to note that she mimed the climax during the official televised performance, yet in this rehearsal she was completely capable of delivering it live. There was literally no need to lip-sync. Enjoy and Merry Christmas Lambily. (Friday 26 December 2025; 09:03)

MC super girl group (112,680) by Lambi from USA My goodness. All the girls Mariah birthed in a tribute medley would be amazing. By the way these are the girlies who openly admitted Mariah inspired them: Beyoncé, Rihanna, Christina Aguilera, JoJo, Kelly Rowland, Kelly Clarkson, Jennifer Hudson, Leona Lewis, Ariana Grande, Fifth Harmony, Tori Kelly, Normani, Chloey Bailey, SZA, H.E.R. Obviously Beyonce and Rihanna are too big now. Rihanna doesn't really take vocals seriously. Christina is forever mad about being uninvited. Jennifer and Ariana already came true with Oh Santa. Ariana and Tori also did When You Believe for funsies, but yes I would like a proper cover. I hear Tori Kelly, Ari and Jojo completely slaying Babydoll with a triple harmony. It sucks because this is such a fun idea but I bet all the pop girlies wouldn't dare (even more now) since Muni sensitive Long put Mariah out of context and is forever butt hurt about a comment Mariah made that was nowhere near being aimed towards her. I'm literally so annoyed with Muni LMAO. What the hell girl. (Sunday 14 December 2025; 10:12) this is a reply to message 112,674

MC super girl group (112,674) by John from USA I want a vanity project super girl group consisting of Mariah and the women she's inspired and influenced the most: JoJo, Brandi, Ariana, and Kelly Clarkson. Let them bounce ideas off of one another, create vocal harmonies and arrangements, and make the best R&B/Pop music the mid 2020s can ever come up with. I don't care if it is a hit. I just want it to be so undeniably great. That said, it ain't ever gonna happen. (Sunday 14 December 2025; 01:40)

Rocky's IG story song choice (112,678) by Lambi from USA He cracks me up too. He read Mariah's memoir for sure. He chose Dance With My Father for Father's Day one time and people thought Nick was dead. LMAO. (Sunday 14 December 2025; 07:02) this is a reply to message 112,667

Rocky's IG story song choice (112,667) by Norman from USA That boy just unalived me with his post. He knows what he's doing, too. Hilarious. He posted a story on IG about having some the best fried chicken ever, and the track he chose to play with the pic is a classic 90s cover of a timeless ballad by his could've been daddy Luis Miguel. I lmao just wondering what Mimi's going to say about it. The kid knows his music, though. (Saturday 13 December 2025; 08:27)

Everybody hears except Mariah (112,676) by Lambi from USA Anyone else find it interesting how Mariah seemingly doesn't hear the subtle tone changes in every era? Since she used vocals from 1993 for the 2003 NBA Hero performance. She did the same thing and used '94 vocals for the 2004 Joy To The World performance. It seems she genuinely believes her tone is the same. (Sunday 14 December 2025; 03:26)

Serious question (112,675) by Lambi from USA Hey Matty, I've actually known about some of what happened with JoJo's rise. It truly is a shame. This Deep Dive details everything. She truly does deserve more. She easily could've been Christina's successor and Ariana's predecessor. (Sunday 14 December 2025; 02:53) this is a reply to message 112,656

Serious question (112,656) by Matty from Vancouver Canada You should read up on JoJo's career (she has a great memoir), her voice was literally owned by the business and wasn't allowed to release music, that's why she turned to acting for a while. She came back with some amazing independent albums (Mad Love is fantastic). But JoJo has a lot of anger towards how she was taken advantage of by a bad group of business men at such a young age. It's really tragic because she would have been one of the greats. They originally signed her to be the next Aaliyah. (Same team as Aaliyah. And they also kept Aaliyah's music in the vault for years after her death.) Also JoJo re-recorded all her original albums long before Swift so she could make her money back. Swift took that play from JoJo, she didn't invent it even though she gets all the praise for it. (Thursday 11 December 2025; 19:02)

Serious question (112,640) by Lambi from USA Bobby A, you're too nice. I did the math, if you averaged all of Kelly Clarkson's records. She wrote about 35% of songs on her albums. Objectively, she's nowhere near Mariah's league. MC wrote all of the 11 tracks in her debut. Pretty much kept that same principle in all her records ever since, aside from the occasional covers. I thought JoJo was going to be Mariah's predecessor, she wrote 11 out the 14 tracks in her debut album. That's impressive for a 13 year old. She was innately prolific. And I thought she was going to keep developing her writing and become a solid writer as an adult, but nothing really much came of her career. It's actually kind of hard to think of another artist on par with Mariah's level of prolific songwriting and vocal excellence. (Wednesday 10 December 2025; 13:45) this is a reply to message 112,639

Serious question (112,639) by Bobby A from United States Keith Sweat said nobody. Lol. I think he is right. Celine has never come close in her career because she is not a songwriter. Kelly Clarkson could have been if she didn't start her talk show. (Wednesday 10 December 2025; 11:28)

Serious question (112,638) by Lambi from USA Who is actually Mariah's closest formidable competition in terms of being a complete singer-songwriter? Is there anyone who genuinely matches her combination of vocal prowess and songwriting talent? Who? (Wednesday 10 December 2025; 11:21)

Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,582) by Lambi from USA Idol was a PR move for E=MC2 release. I really don't think Mariah hates covers. She's literally so happy whistling along to Dreamlover when a girl with a simple guitar was singing it to her. I think she hates it when they smurf around with the arrangement too much. Or when producers have the audacity to make her sing with objectively bad singers. Like what do you mean? LMAO. (Tuesday 2 December 2025; 11:20) this is a reply to message 112,580

Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,580) by Bobby A from United States Knowing how she MC feels now, I wonder why she allowed American Idol contestants to cover her songs when she was a judge. Anyway, since MC can't sing her songs like she used to, MC doesn't want videos of others out shining her in 2025. (Tuesday 2 December 2025; 08:29)

Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,581) by Lambi from USA With the exception of I Pray, one she wrote for Paul Robbins. That was an objectively good song but it was basically written just for a dream come true segment on the Oprah show. For one freaking episode. I also like Last Chance, a song she wrote for Allure. Decently good song. Shame the girl group didn't really take off. I guess Mariah did kind of start with giving away somewhat decent songs. But her true monstrous hits are still kept to herself. Hopefully she hits a stride soon on writing for others, now that her voice isn't as good. Give others a chance. (Tuesday 2 December 2025; 11:05) this is a reply to message 112,578

Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,578) by Lambi from USA Female singers are scared to cover Mariah in an official commercially released song. That would be shooting your self in the foot. Ari did Emotions on YouTube just to make a statement on her vocal capabilities, other than that, no other major popstar really dared. The only commercially released cover that kind of stood on its own was David Cook's take on ABMB. But it's because he's a true musician and completely made it Rock Alternative and he did it well. It's like Open Arms in reverse. Soulful RnB to Rock, and Rock fanatics absolutely embraced it. Mariah openly praised it during Idol as well. None of her songs are really "cover-able" anyway, they're all too personal and Mariah crafted the music specifically for her voice only. I can't ever hear anyone covering Inseparable or I Wish You Well or Joy Ride or For The Record. They just won't do a good job. If they do, they'd probably make it mellow and acoustic but definitely would not try to go neck to neck with Mariah's vocals. Filipinos are the kind of the only ones who try to replicate Mariah's vocals in deep cuts but it's solely for tribute and for funsies and not for commercial release. I can see Mariah writing for the up-and-coming Liamani to officially pass the baton. Maybe some ballads for Ariana. But I'm not sure if she'll ever be ready to give away bops just yet. I would have loved for Ari or Tori to be given Nothing Is Impossible or Camouflage or Cry. But again, it is Mariah's story. Her voice 100% deserves to tell it. Hopefully soon she can tailor her songs to be more plain language and give others a chance to express her songwriting. (Tuesday 2 December 2025; 04:44)

Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,578) by Lambi from USA Female singers are scared to cover Mariah in an official commercially released song. That would be shooting your self in the foot. Ari did Emotions on YouTube just to make a statement on her vocal capabilities, other than that, no other major popstar really dared. The only commercially released cover that kind of stood on its own was David Cook's take on ABMB. But it's because he's a true musician and completely made it Rock Alternative and he did it well. It's like Open Arms in reverse. Soulful RnB to Rock, and Rock fanatics absolutely embraced it. Mariah openly praised it during Idol as well. None of her songs are really "cover-able" anyway, they're all too personal and Mariah crafted the music specifically for her voice only. I can't ever hear anyone covering Inseparable or I Wish You Well or Joy Ride or For The Record. They just won't do a good job. If they do, they'd probably make it mellow and acoustic but definitely would not try to go neck to neck with Mariah's vocals. Filipinos are the kind of the only ones who try to replicate Mariah's vocals in deep cuts but it's solely for tribute and for funsies and not for commercial release. I can see Mariah writing for the up-and-coming Liamani to officially pass the baton. Maybe some ballads for Ariana. But I'm not sure if she'll ever be ready to give away bops just yet. I would have loved for Ari or Tori to be given Nothing Is Impossible or Camouflage or Cry. But again, it is Mariah's story. Her voice 100% deserves to tell it. Hopefully soon she can tailor her songs to be more plain language and give others a chance to express her songwriting. (Tuesday 2 December 2025; 04:44) this is a reply to message 112,577

Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,577) by jaker20 from US That is why Mariah is saying she doesn't like other artists to cover her songs, because she can't really block them. That's her intention behind it. So she's pre-emptively discouraging other artists, especially from other artists she feels threatened. (Monday 1 December 2025; 21:53)

The Beautiful Ones (112,567) by Lambi from USA Mariah introduced The Beautiful Ones to me. And I agree, hers is better. Could've been a tad bit shorter but Mariah's voice and interpretation during Butterfly is basically unbeatable. Prince might've been insecure. (Monday 1 December 2025; 02:11) this is a reply to message 112,560

Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,560) by Edward from USA I think it really comes down to taste. Aside from some of his early work, I've never been a big fan of Prince or his style of singing. I've actually played both versions of "The Beautiful Ones" for people who had never heard either version before, including people who don't even speak the language, and Mariah's version has always been the favorite. She and Sisqo did a great job with it. (Sunday 30 November 2025; 15:02)

Prince (112,566) by Lambi from USA The truth is more nuanced than the common myth that "Prince hated covers". He didn't actually hate people performing his songs; what he disliked was loss of control over his work, especially when it involved: ownership and publishing rights. Record labels profiting without his consent and interpretations he felt were exploitative or low-quality. He was basically just protective, not opposed to covering. He's actually really generous. He wrote so many songs for other artists. (Monday 1 December 2025; 02:05) this is a reply to message 112,565

Prince (112,565) by Anonymous from United States Prince recorded multiple studio versions of other artists' songs and included them on albums. All of the following covers he recorded appeared on one of his studio albums (included in parentheses): Betcha By Golly Wow by The Stylistics (Emancipation) I Can't Make You Love Me by Bonnie Raitt (not written by Raitt but still a cover) (Emancipation) Every Day Is A Winding Road by Sheryl Crow (Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic) A Case of You by Joni Mitchell (One Nite Alone...) Crimson and Clover by Tommy James and the Shondells (Lotusflow3r) I think it's totally fine for artists to voice a dislike for other people covering their songs and then turn around and cover other artists' songs. (Sunday 30 November 2025; 22:15)

Mariah is out of the funk (112,555) by Lambi from USA Felt the same right after seeing her annual anointed greens video. She's so enthusiastic. (Sunday 30 November 2025; 05:23) this is a reply to message 112,550

Mariah is out of the funk (112,550) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Wow, I just watched some videos on YouTube from the opening show in Las Vegas, and the sparkle in her eyes is back. She moves more like she used to, it looks like she actually wants to be there, and she's having fun. I think she is officially out of her depression, so happy to see. The show is still 99% lipped, and I am affraid that is just the new standard now. But as Lambs, we know her first shows usually are her worst, she tends to use a few shows to warm up, then she gets better and better every night. But I still don't think we are there that she will try to sing a whole song live, we might never get there again. But it was so fun to see Mariah happy and cracking jokes again, it has been painful for us all the last couple of years, but as a bipolar myself, I know that you will eventually get out of the funk, you just don't know when or how, each time you get sick feels a bit similar to the last time, but there's always something new, different things you have to go through, the road to recovery is never the same. My girl is finally on the other side again, Mariah is out of the funk. (Saturday 29 November 2025; 21:06)

Prince (112,552) by Lambi from USA Prince covered songs all the time though like Just My Imagination, Superstition, and Come Together, but only live and never on record. He did not like the idea of other people making money off his work, and Mariah probably feels the same way. Live performances seems to be fine but releasing them commercially is not. By that metric, she was not dissing Muni at all. I also do not think Mariah is complaining. She was even smiling here. She has always shown love to people who sampled her songs. She appreciated Like Mariah by Fifth Harmony, she approved Emotionless by Drake, she even jumped in on the Big Energy Remix and used Bryson Tillers SIO sample for a transition in concerts. She has consistently been supportive of people who sample her music tastefully. There is nothing inherently wrong with covering songs anyway. Mariah debuted with all originals, but when she was asked to do a cover for MTV Unplugged (just for TV), she then realized she could absolutely elevate a song. And had no problem doing on record: Without You, Open Arms and all that came after. But before I'll Be There, they originally wanted her to cover Aretha's Natural Woman, but out of respect for Aretha, Mariah went to Carole King and asked to write something new instead, and that is how If It's Over was born. She is at the core, a true songwriter, just like Prince, and really wanted make that a statement. And today I feel she really proved it. (Sunday 30 November 2025; 04:07) this is a reply to message 112,551

Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,551) by Edward from USA Isn't it ironic that Mariah is not a fan of other artists covering her songs, considering how much of her own catalog is built on sampling, re-recording, and re-imagining other people's work. Prince genuinely hated people covering his songs, especially when those covers started becoming bigger and better known than the originals. It even got to the point where, at his own concerts, people thought he was the one covering those songs. I can definitely see why that would drive him crazy. Magically, Mariah's attitude toward other artists covering her songs shifted right around the time Prince, the ultimate diva in himself, brushed off her cover of "The Beautiful Ones". I think her take was phenomenal, and if we're honest, with all due respect to his fans, hers outshines his. From that moment on, it feels like she picked up a few pages from his diva playbook and, unoriginally, folded them into her own arsenal, even though a part of her work has always incorporated existing. I adore Mariah, but she really needs to stop with the bs. You can't complain about people covering your songs while you've been doing the same thing for 35 years now, and let's not get into all the sampling. (Sunday 30 November 2025; 02:48)

Prince (112,544) by Lambi from USA Remember when he told Mariah, "I like Honey" and she was like, "I get it, don't sing your songs." She didn't take it as an insult; she just kept it respectful. She didn't react immaturely the way Muni did with such a cut-throat skit, which really can't be perceived as anything other than utter disrespect. That's the difference between them. Mariah just gets it. She was only 27/28 then, yet she was already so emotionally mature. Especially compared to Muni at 37. That was full-on mean-girl energy, and completely unnecessary. I don't think I'll see Muni in the same light ever again. (Saturday 29 November 2025; 11:59)

In Your Feelings (112,543) by Lambi from USA Either a cold or her meds dried out her voice, which they tend to do. It's funny because Mi, My Love, Nothing Is Impossible, and Here For It All are all in the same exact Db minor key, so it's her comfortable range. But it's only In Your Feelings where the whole song sounds a little funky. The belts in NII are a bit dry too. I've grown to love the power belts in HFIA, though. (Saturday 29 November 2025; 11:45) this is a reply to message 112,540

In Your Feelings (112,540) by Giovanni from USA In my opinion "In your feelings" is the only song on the album where Mariah's voice sounds bad. I love her but it sounds like she recorded it while having a cold. It's a shame because it's one of her best recordings. Imagine if MOAlA Mariah sung this song. I wish she had re recorded it when her voice was better. Overall I'm still enjoying HFIA. I would love to hear Bruno cover "In your feelings". (Friday 28 November 2025; 03:29)

Caution (112,538) by Lambi from USA Oh my goodness Bobby A, we're in sync. Blasted Caution for Thanksgiving prep and I love the run from With You, A No No, The Distance, Giving Me Life, One Mo' Gen, 8th Grade, all the way to Stay Long Love You. I genuinely didn't realize how much I love this album. This was her response after the NYE disaster so it's no wonder this record really slaps. She really went in. (Friday 28 November 2025; 02:22) this is a reply to message 112,536

Caution (112,536) by Bobby A from United States Today I have placed Caution on the same level as TEOM. It is just a feel good party record that you can play over and over again. I hope MC is rushed to record MC17 because she produces a party record when she is focused and pressured to put her music out there. (Thursday 27 November 2025; 23:18)

LMAO (112,537) by Lambi from USA Sorry guys I just have to re-share this. It needed its own post. Just to shake off Muni's mess and lighten the mood. I am so thankful for hysterical lambily comedic genius. I'm also grateful I got to join this community this year. Happy Thanksgiving everyone. (Friday 28 November 2025; 01:51)

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