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Stacey/Licia (39,830)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
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I think the Facebook message could definitely come off as strange, moreso than the Fallon appearance. Licia brought up some really good points. Mariah is super-sensitive, and with the internet now, unless Mariah lived in hiding, she would know that lambs/fans were not happy with Triumphant, the luke-warm reception to Almost Home (I liked it, but it isn't a song I have had on repeat, I love TAOLG) followed by the controversy of AI and issues with the melody performance, Beautiful performances videos and injury. When I read the message on Facebook post it seemed like a clear case that so easily happens with social media - reaching for the platform without really thinking it through ie "in react mode". She wrote the message at 3:30am after getting news that she knew would bother her. That can come off as way over the top. I think in her own way she was drawing attention to that in the message, knowing that it could be perceived as "Here MC goes off her rocker again." Being a diva and making a big distress call, I think the vast majority of people didn't notice the difference between the two versions. Mariah seems to be the type of person that if for example you hang a picture on the wall, and it is not straight, it would bug her until she went over to the picture and made it straight. It seems to me, something close to that happened here. Whether people recognized the difference or not, she knew about it, and it was going to bug her until she set it straight. I don't know that everything is all hunky dory with the label either. I have felt this way for a while. It will be interesting to aee if she decides to leave when her contract is filled.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 18:29)
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To Tony from Ireland (39,829)
by Carol from Spain
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I agree with you regarding the American fans. I believe they just got lazy and uninterested in her as years go by. Wonder why? Or what do they want from Mariah anyway, bcause the old Mariah everyone seems to love isn't coming back no matter how you put it. Competition keeps releasing trash and even Riri is getting an icon award at the AMA's for a reason unknown to the mankind and American listeners just keep on litening to crap. I understand she changed, I accept you don't have to like everything she does (altough I don't agree with that), but the problem is US fans stopped caring for Mariah. You just did. I'm sorry for that (come on hit me back lol).
(Friday 15 November 2013; 16:42)
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Licia/Stacey (39,828)
by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
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Your response to Stacey was very nicely put. I hadn't thought of it like that, and perhaps you're right. When you think about it, I suppose we all go OTT when one obstacle arrives after another, irrespective of how minor it is. Maybe, that's it. I still think the letter was OTT, and indeed unnecessary, but I appreciate more why Mariah may have done it. I don't want to sound patronising, but can I also thank you for posting such a mature response to those of us who have commented on Mariah's behaviour over the past few days. Rather than calling us crazy, like some deluded nut jobs have on here, you've actually addressed our views in a way which makes me reflect upon my own view, and provoked a discussion. Other people, who I can't even be bothered to address, would rather name call, just because people express a view, or concern for Mariah. Nobody can look at that Fallon interview and tell me that Mariah was not acting beyond quirky. We all love that about her and I'm not surprised by it, but combined with the letter and a few of her comments, I can't help but feel a level of concern. That's all.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 16:15)
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Ms. Giselle (39,827)
by Licia from USA
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She had been to the dentist when she named her dog. That's the other medicine she was referring too. She said that on the Jimmy Fallon interview.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 15:59)
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Crazy fans/ Facebook letter (39,826)
by clueey23 from USA
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I can not believe the people in this site. I think you all are the crazy ones, talking about MC being crazy. I think the interview with Angie and Jimmy were great and honest. Some of you watch or listen to something once and miss the comedy and fun of it and label her as crazy. Calling this breakdown number 2 because she cares about her craft enough to explain that the version on Facebook wasn't the right mix of the song is very dismissive. MC is an artist, music is her life. So if you created a song from scratch and had spent so much time perfecting everything and some rookie engineer uploaded the wrong mix to premiere the song to millions around the world, you would be pissed too. MC is just cool and humble enough to actually communicate with her fans about something like this. The simple fact that the song hasn't even been released to radio and has this much buzz is awesome. Sometimes I think people or fans forget they don't actually know MC and they want her to be what's in their heads, that's not only sick but crazy.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 15:31)
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Ms. Giselle (39,825)
by Will from England
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When Nick got her Cha Cha, she had returned from the dentist and was still a little bit under whatever they gave her. It wasn't anything serious, and that wasn't the first time that she mentioned it. Maybe it was the View or somewhere like that when she talked about the story. Look guys, at 3.30 am, when you're tired, and you've been working hard on the album, recovering from an arm injury that still isn't at 100%, and someone tells you that there was a mistake about which version of the song that was uploaded, I would have flipped a table or two. To have some newbie screw up and release a version of a song that you consider to be incomplete and not finished, along with the fact that the song is very personal to you and you want people to experience the version you consider complete, and not being told until two days later I think is quite a good reason to be "on the floor of the bathroom at 3am". She obviously cares about this song quite a bit, enough to have it released even if it is not a commercial single or whatever and for someone to (in her mind) ruin the moment may have just deflated her just a bit. As for the Fallon interview, I did not see any behaviour that would give me cause for concern. It was Mariah just being more Mariah. I guess over the years she's been more restrained in how much of her personality that to see her going off on tangents may be slightly alarming. Breakdown? I think Mariah knows what to do to avoid that at this point.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 15:25)
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MC's Facebook letter / Fallon interview (39,824)
by Ms. Giselle from USA
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The interview was weird, I blame it for earlier, her "splash" she said it was cider. She should never drink before an interview. When she started to say she named her dog when she was on certain "medicine", I knew it had went so far to the left, I couldn't watch anymore. I felt so uncomfortable. Her letter is weird, The part that has me is the "sitting on the bathroom floor at 3am mad". Really? It's all just weird.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 14:56)
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Erratic, eccentric behavior (39,823)
by B from USA
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Who knows why she was so upset over something that insignificant. Maybe something else was/is going on. Either way, I'll continue to support her.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 14:54)
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Stacey (39,822)
by Licia from USA
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I don't think this is breakdown number 2 (at least I hope it not). I just think she had a moment. She thought everything was going according to plan and once again there was an obstacle. Even though it was a small thing, I can certainly understand her being upset. From nobody liking Triumphant to the bad Beautiful performances and the injury this era hasn't exactly been going great. Yeah I might have flipped a little too. She seems ok now though. She looked absolutely gorgeous and seemed happy in the pics from last night at the Out 100.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 12:53)
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Tony (39,821)
by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
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I don't think those views are limited to just American fans. There just happens to be more American fans on this board.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 10:32)
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Stacey (39,820)
by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
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I agree. See my earlier post. I mean, yes I'd be mad if that happened, and yes I hear the differences, but none of the changes change the substance of the song. Thus, a message at 3.30 am from the bathroom floor seems a little odd, and OTT. Perhaps, she's just so into this project, and the message is a reflection of that. Sidenote, the song is growing on me, despite there being no hook. There seems to be no plan for a video or release to radio, so something tells me that this is not the first commercial single.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 10:28)
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New here (39,819)
by Faith from Uae
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Hey there, I've been following the site for a while now, but what is been happening lately in Mariah's career made me want to post and discuss it with you guys. I hope that this is not going to be Glitter part II. There is something wrong that is happening behind the scenes we don't know about, Mariah is struggling a lot lately and her latest pics in Instagram show her a bit miserable plus that letter on the Facebook is not a good sign. Why she is delaying the album with each single that wasn't successful enough? Is she afraid that if the album didn't debuted #1 people will count her out? Or the truth maybe that they aleardy have counted her out and they are not even playing her new songs as much on the radio in the USA. I have a lot on my mind to write but I will leave it at this for now. 
(Friday 15 November 2013; 10:25)
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The Art Of Letting Go (39,818)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I absolutley love the song. 
(Friday 15 November 2013; 7:46)
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Sales and radio impressions (39,817)
by Edward from USA
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According to my research TAOLG hasn't been properly released to radio yet. Sales should pick up a bit when they start playing it. Unless TAOLG turns to be a slow burner, we shouldn't lose our sleep expecting it to top the charts. I hope radio programmers give this song a chance. It is not only beautiful, well sung and retro, but it is way different from everything playing out there now. I also hope that Mariah and her team would be on point to promote this one.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 5:26)
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TAOLG (39,816)
by Stacey from USA
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It doesn't seem odd to you that MC is so upset at the wrong version being released? I know she is very involved with her music. It's one of the many reasons why I admire her so much. But still, that message seems loopy to me, like we are seeing 2001 all over again. I hope I am 100% wrong. The whole thing just seems odd to me. Anyone else?
(Friday 15 November 2013; 3:42)
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Mariah media storm (39,815)
by RadChad from United States
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I thought she looked uber hot on Jimmy Fallon; the girls were sitting just right in that black dress. Lol. Her behavior as of late is typical Mariah. Now if we were in the Daydream era, then maybe I would think "she's acting different", but Mariah has had this eccentric persona for a minute now. It's really nothing new or shocking IMO. The only thing I can point out is she's starting to care less about what people think and speaks her mind more free and bluntly (Nicki and Idol so deserved that shade she handed to them on a silver platter btw). Back to the music, I literally can't get enough of this new song. Everything from the symphony, to the adlibs, background vocals, the vunerability in her voice, those one of a kind low riffs, and high belting are all giving me everything I need right now. Note: I'm in love with the bridge when she sings with herself in soft voice "baby letting go (baby letting go) ain't easy (ain't easy)", it's been stuck in my head all day.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 2:35)
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This American fan needs lyrics (39,814)
by Trish from USA
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Mariah has a distinct style throughout her career of writing beautiful, thoughtful lyrics, however lately the use of modern technology terms, slang, improper English, inside jokes, and using her own name in songs really just distracts from what could be a beautiful song. The first time I heard Where Are You Christmas, performed by Faith Hill, I knew Mariah wrote it because I was so familiar with her phrase and lyric writing style. I bought TAOLG on iTunes and I love the vocals, I support Mariah as I have my whole life, but I would expect someone so good at writing to get better with lyrics as they go through more life experiences good and bad. These lyrics feel rushed sloppy and silly. The lyrics have always been what separates M from other vocalists who sing songs other people wrote, which is why a return to form has to include a return to timeless lyrics. Maybe lyrics aren't that big of a deal to a lot of people, but I look for a deeper connection to lyrics, particularly Mariah's lyrics, and I have a feeling a lot of fans feel the same.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 2:33)
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TAOLG (39,813)
by Ms. Giselle from USA
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I personally love the song. It's very mature and it brings me back to 1990-1992 Mariah, this would have fit right in with ''Emotions'' era. I hope Mariah looks at her old SNL performances of that era because TAOLG could use a performance like that this era. I really hope she doesn't spoil it with the video, all she needs is to do a great video with a storyline, no vanity this time and the sales will rocket up like WBT. I like that she did something unexpected and new. I've been wanting a throwback old school sounding song from her and we finally have it. I honestly don't care about sales/charts, I'd so rather her have huge success with a quality album from start to finish then #1 songs. I hope she does another unplugged type of thing this era on TV to promote it. 
(Friday 15 November 2013; 1:38)
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Sales and radio impressions TAOLG (39,812)
by Tony from Ireland
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I have to say that I do not get what American "fans" want from Mariah, I mean, everybody was a little bit upset when #Beautiful was released because of how much importance Miguel did had on it. Well, now we, and they, have the most beautifully well executed song MC has put out in years, and the lambs fan base is been falling down by millions, or the American "lambs" do not have a clue how to support an artist. The sales are going down so fast that it seems that nobody is buying. The single is on the radio, there's not sign of it at all. Why I say that about American fans? Because they have in their hands the chance to make her go back to the top and they are doing nothing. And it doesn't matter how much she is selling around the globe, because sadly nobody will talk about it.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 1:12)
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TAOLG (39,811)
by Jay from USA
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I love this song and I'm very excited for this era. I know that term is overused but I'm going with it. The past "two singles", Triumphant and #Beautiful, were songs. They were okay and didn't really excite me as a "new single" from Mariah usually does. To be honest, it's been awhile. I'm always supportive of Mariah but TAOLG gave me a "90's vibe". I mean, I don't remember the last time that I felt so excited for the premiere. It felt like that morning that I set the alarm for the premiere of Honey on MTV. Or the first time I saw the Dreamlover video on VH1. And later when I found the Dreamlover single that featured the David Morales remixes. And of course the night I made everyone watch the Thanksgiving special after dinner while everyone in my family rolled their eyes. I love the song, the lyrics, and trying to decipher who or what she wrote it about. I even stayed up, in my old age, to watcher her on Fallon when usually, I just wait to see it online. I'm liking it all so far, but I really hope we don't have to wait until February 2014 to hear the rest of the album. I do hope we get remixes from David Morales the way he remixed CTTA.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 0:41)
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This sums up my problem with MC's lyrics these days (39,810)
by B from USA
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From a review of We Belong Together: There's no tired "I tried to 2-way you" retorts, no trash-technology love affair "I was at the grocery store and this guy had the same ring tone as you, and I cried." No, there's a classic sensibility to the lyrics and sound.
(Friday 15 November 2013; 0:08)
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High note (39,809)
by Lee from UK
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In my original post on this song, after listening to it on Facebook, I said it could do with a high note. Looks like I was right. 
(Thursday 14 November 2013; 22:37)
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Differences (39,808)
by Lee from UK
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It took me a couple of listens to figure it out, but the main difference between the two versions is in the part near the big climax where Mariah sings "Letting go..." and then it is immediately repeated "Letting go..." And the backing singers go "bop, bop". Well the vocals here are slightly lower on the Facebook version and on the iTunes version they are higher. But the main difference is that on the proper final version on iTunes, Mariah includes a high note during the climax in the background. This is missing on the Facebook version.
(Thursday 14 November 2013; 22:27)
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TAOLG part II (39,807)
by Carol from Spain
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Unlike many, I think it's a big deal to post the wrong version of TAOLG. Not for me, but for her, as an artist and being a person that likes to control every aspect of her work, i understand it's a big deal. Yes, the nuances are very small, but she had a vision to show us the song and it got screwed up but God knows who. I wouldn't like to be the engineer or the person that gave her the news, but I guess I would also crawled up on the floor too if my vision got disturbed by incompetence. Either way, I like both versions. Yet again, here it is another token of Mimi's artistry: she could just let it go and put the right version on the album and don't mention the slip, but she wants us to know what's going on every step of the way. Mariah is always the best.
(Thursday 14 November 2013; 22:07)
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Version 1 vs version 2 (39,806)
by R&B Junkie from Poland
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For some people the differences aren't clear, but for those who are on the higher level of musical sensitivity they are evident. It's the same with files of mp3 or wav format. The latter is considered to be professional. Mp3s have lower quality of dynamics. 90% of listeners don't get that, but it's the way it is. If you want to have an eargasm with Mariah songs, go and listen to her CDS or, if using computer, turn CD tracks into wav format.
(Thursday 14 November 2013; 21:55)
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