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Music Box vs Daydream (108,956) by Jamie from UK
Wow, you're a very angry person.
(Monday 2 June 2025; 16:16)
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Nasty, nasty comment (108,942) by Jamie from UK
I also agree that the whisper voice she adopted contributed to damaging her voice. Not singing how she was meant to might have put strain on her voice. As said previously I think she chose to sing in this way, is it possible in the earlier later years that she forgot how to sing? We heard a return to power voice during [Glitter] but then sling came [Charmbracelet], I don't mind the album but her voice is annoying at times with the whisper and I just think to myself "just sing properly".
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 16:21)
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Happy anniversary (108,931) by Jamie from UK
Nope, Music Box is my favourite.
(Saturday 31 May 2025; 21:52)
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Say Somethin Solange remix (108,907) by Jamie from UK
I love the It's Like That Essentrik Remix. Just done a bike ride with Emancipation playing.
(Friday 30 May 2025; 18:26)
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Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,903) by Jamie from UK
Do you think alcoholism is one of Mariah's issues? I know she likes a drink but never looked at it this way before. It would make sense that this is her vice and what's damaged her vocals. When I think of younger Mariah, she was so much more happier, even though she says she wasn't. You can see it on her face and hear it in both her speaking and singing voice. I just listened to Daydream from Tokyo Dome, I love when she says "thank you guys" to the fabulous four and saying "they are having church up in here" at the end of Hero. She sounds so humble and sweet, and just generally happier, a complete contrast to her personality now. I think Mariah wanted to change herself because she didn't want to be this sweet and grounded person she wanted to be more edgy, which I get, hey we would all like to be different at times but I honestly believe that's who she really is deep down and wanting to change has only led to more problems for her down the line. It's like Tommy said no one was forcing her to write those songs or be the person she was. I believe when you loose sight of who you really are and portray a different image it can only do harm to yourself. Mariah can live her life however she chooses it's not down to anyone else, that is just my gut feeling about her.
(Friday 30 May 2025; 15:38)
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Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,900) by Jamie from UK
Yes it was clear and strong but it had changed from her earlier voice, it’s clear to tell.
(Friday 30 May 2025; 09:36)
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Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,894) by Jamie from UK
Yes I remember reading somewhere years ago that Tommy bought her first boob job for her. How true that is I'm not sure. Sometimes I feel Mariah chose to sing differently from Daydream and that also affected the quality of her voice. But I defo agree the nose surgery didn't help.
(Thursday 29 May 2025; 21:21)
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Eternal 12 (108,888) by Jamie from UK
She's definitely had a few nose jobs which has altered her face from what it was, I preferred it before. It wasn't even big before now it's too small. I've had a couple of nose jobs so I'm not against surgery but a tweak that she had during Daydream was all that was needed for Mariah, now it's far too small.

If you search Mariah nose before and after you can see the huge changes over the years. The tip had got progressively smaller. I was always under the impression as a singer you should never have a nose job, but a lot do. Could this be why her voice changed during Daydream the same time her nose did. I think she kept that first nose job until Glitter then from there you can notice even more changes.
(Thursday 29 May 2025; 01:44)
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Reset (108,877) by Jamie from UK
Can we get back to talking about Mariah and not these silly conspiracy theories? The mafia, Charles Manson. I'm I really reading this crazy talk. She's in a bad place that's it, only Mariah can sort herself out.
(Tuesday 27 May 2025; 17:51)
The return of the voice (108,834) by Jamie from UK
Exactly, if people can't see something is seriously wrong then they are blinded. Do we get to the point where like Whitney people were walking out of concerts while she was straining on stage to be who she once was. And we all know what happened after that. Mariah will want to go on stage, she will want to be an artist and she will still crave to be adored, all stars are the same in that respect, but [you're] right, I'm mad at the people around her saying yes yes yes and not being honest with her. Now we've got this video for the Australian fans (which I'm yet to watch) which reports of bizarre answers and behaviour. Are we now unfortunately seeing her unravel in the public eye.
(Friday 23 May 2025; 09:12)
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Show some humanity (108,833) by Jamie from UK
We're not talking about how she wants to live, we're talking about her health decline and how as someone who's loved her for a long time are upset to see her like this. It is allowed, it's not hate, it's love for someone.
(Friday 23 May 2025; 09:03)
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She possibly had a stroke (108,817) by Jamie from UK
Exactly, some people need to be honest with her, and not just one. As a collective they need to be honest. She's a shadow of even modern day Mariah. I'm concerned something isn't right either mentally or physically. And I think it's got to a level that there's no chance of improvement. I get it, to her she's loosing the one thing that she's known for and that must hurt big time. But putting things like this out is only gonna hurt her even more. I'm reading on line comments like "I love her tone", all these yassss people are not helping. This voice that's on the Mimi lounge is not good at all. I'm just being honest. If she was a new singer and you heard those vocals, nobody would listen. Just because it's Mariah doesn't mean we have to say it's good. I'm very sad to see her this way, I would never have wanted this for her, but there comes a time when you have to bow out, work out what's going on and spend time on yourself. Mariah has had a phenomenal career and that will always be there, but I think it's time to accept that and don't tarnish what you had.
(Thursday 22 May 2025; 14:52)
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She possibly had a stroke (108,815) by Jamie from UK
Something isn't right. She was slurring her words, and couldn't keep up. It quite upset me to see her like this.
(Thursday 22 May 2025; 10:23)
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Karaoke lounge (108,800) by Jamie from UK
I just watched it. I had to skim through, it's quite upsetting, she can barely keep up with the rhythm on the songs, it's like someone on Karaoke not knowing the words and stumbling through it. Oh Mariah what is wrong? Please tell us.
(Wednesday 21 May 2025; 17:35)
Mimi lounge (108,799) by Jamie from UK
I've just seen the clip saying Mimi lounge out now. Was that really the best clip, she couldn't even say the words without slurring. What is going on?
(Wednesday 21 May 2025; 17:27)
Article: Mariah Carey is set to announce Australian tour (108,784) by Jamie from UK
She's touring a hell of a lot. Does she really need the money that bad? Time to strip back Mimi.
(Tuesday 20 May 2025; 14:12)
Just for laughs (108,771) by Jamie from UK
Ok so it's 1994 Music Box is on top of the charts. Mariah is everywhere, America's sweetheart. She can do no wrong and you love everything she does. Then [you're] involved in an accident which puts you in a coma until2017. The last video you saw before your accident was Anytime You Need A Friend. When you awake, I Don't video is playing on the hospital TV. What is your reaction? Answers on a postcard.
(Monday 19 May 2025; 19:56)
Mimi 20 (108,766) by Jamie from UK
Wow, I just saw Mariah's post about the LP version of Mimi. Something is seriously wrong, she can't even laugh properly in that video. It's like she's not there at all.
(Sunday 18 May 2025; 23:10)
Biopic (108,760) by Jamie from UK
Hahaha just howled at your list. That's brilliant.
(Sunday 18 May 2025; 12:37)
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Shenzhen concert (108,714) by Jamie from UK
I didn't think she seemed as bad in the [China] concerts, much better than ones I'd seen before this. And I haven't been happy with her performances of late.
(Tuesday 13 May 2025; 19:42)
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Tommy book (108,696) by Jamie from UK
Yes you're right. And thank you Ed.
(Friday 9 May 2025; 23:06)
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Tommy book (108,688) by Jamie from UK
So I've now finished the book, the last part of the Mariah section finished with him talking about how they grew even further apart after her decisions. He particularly blames the Grammys, he said that if she'd won for the [Daydream] era it could have maybe saved them a bit longer by putting a band aid over the cracks. He thinks the reason she didn't win anything for [Daydream] was because the powers that be were keeping her in check because she was basically taking over the music industry. He says people in her entourage started spinning stories that she was locked in with security guards. Which is what we hear from Mariah herself, he says the truth is that while he was home sleeping after long working days, she was out at clubs and not returning until daybreak and this was when his anxieties and mistrust began to manifest. He says he can understand how overwhelming everything must have been for Mariah coming from a place of no rules or regulations growing up. People making decisions, suggesting and telling her what to do could have been overwhelming and made her feel like she's lost control of her life. He apologizes saying if it seemed like I was controlling let me apologize again. He admits he was obsessive, but he also admits that was also part of the reason for her success. If [you'rr] not controlling things well in that particular job then [you're] not gonna hold that position for long, he says the problem was him being the chairman of Sony and also her husband at the same time. He says things got more tense with them and she became more resentful that in the end he wrote Mariah a little note from lyrics by Elton John. It read: "Butterflies are free to fly. Fly away." Weeks later they were separated. I have really enjoyed reading this book, it has drawn me back to my memories of Mariah from when I was younger. Whilst we all evolve I miss those early days. It's crazy to think I was 12 years old when Mariah first came out. I was 47 yesterday it's been 35 years of me loving Mariah. At times I've expressed my views and disappoints at times but hopefully you can understand why, when she's been part of my life for so long. So Mariah if you're reading this, I love you and thank you for bringing me so much joy. Next time I'm in NYC with work let's hook up. I can all but dream.
(Thursday 8 May 2025; 21:55)
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Article: Anderson .Paak confirms Mariah Carey collaboration (108,680) by Jamie from UK
She scrapped them because she's working with Walter again.
(Thursday 8 May 2025; 01:47)
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Tommy book (108,672) by Jamie from UK
So today I've read the Daydream era from him. He knew which direction she wanted to go and gave her the tools to do. He initially said he was reluctant to put ODB on the [Fantasy] remix but then after hearing it he knew it was a hit. He says Daydream gave her the all round genre approach and finally she got the hip hop audience she so wanted. He says he was happy with this and it had been a complete success. The only problem then came with [Fantasy] remix success was that Mariah was now saying this is the only direction she wanted to go in. Sony and himself were concerned and tried to tell her that she can be all genres she could have everything and have every demographic unlike anyone that's come before her. They were concerned that going strictly down this path would isolate some of her fans and ultimately reduce sales. But Mariah was adamant and this is where the cracks began. I have to agree with him here, whilst I love hip hop Mariah, she has so many layers to her that she can and did appeal to a wider audience. I think she ultimately became too hip hop for her fanbase and ultimately sales did decline. Whilst we as fans know that her late albums still contain some ballads, I think to the general public because she was heavily hip hop and this was the image she was portraying, a far cry from who they thought she was, they turned their backs and didn't know that there were still some ballads on their at least post Butterfly. Whilst Emancipation brought a whole new audience, I think from her early fans and audience the damage was done. Had she not been so focused on the hip hop side and kept her image appealing to everyone I think her sales and reputation would have been more favourable. Who knows? That's just my opinion, I just think it was too much of a fast transition for most. He ultimately says they respect artists intentions but also that there's a team behind them that it's their jobs to allow creativity but also to try and nurture them into a path that they think would be right for the artist and their public image.
(Monday 5 May 2025; 17:46)
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Tommy book (108,671) by Jamie from UK
So far he's acknowledged that she wanted to go in different directions from the start but also that she didn't like [Hero] and didn't want it on Music Box. He said that she said it was too white bread. He felt that deep down she loved it especially when it became such a big hit, but that he felt it was more that she didn't want her fiends to think she was selling out as such. But he ultimately said she was the one writing these lyrics and no one put those words into her head. I personally feel that she knew deep down these were great songs and the right direction but her own rebellious side wanted to distance herself from them. You can't force natural talent and those lyrics. He even says he should never have got involved the way he did, she should have kept it a business arrangement. He said he's seen it time and time again where artists want to move away from their core base. He is very complimentary of Mariah and accepts her upbringing and insecurities but again those early years of music no one was forcing her to write those lyrics, they came from the heart. Also he says that it was Mariah who proposed to him. I genuinely think he loved her and his own insecurities blinded him when she was wanting to experiment musically. Sometimes when people get together it can bring out the worst traits even when they both love each other.
(Monday 5 May 2025; 05:31)
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