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Love what you wrote Marissa, perfect (64,254)
by Anonymous from
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I love what you wrote Marissa, perfect.
(Wednesday 13 July 2016; 11:55)
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Re: When is enough really enough? (64,244) (64,252)
by Lance from Jones
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I totally agree with that. Her image became very cheap when she met Nick and now he has made a 2 million dollar shoe with diamonds on it. I don't know what point he is trying to prove here.
(Wednesday 13 July 2016; 11:51)
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Re: In all honesty (64,240) (64,251)
by THE TRUTH from USA
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Marissa, brava. Brilliantly said. I am ecstatic to see something so poignantly phrased clear and to the point. It renews my faith in this board to see this post, uncensored and hitting home. It is such a shame that mainstream media chooses to obscure this viewpoint and dwell on neo-liberal dribble. I know we would all love to see Mariah take a stand for BLM as we would have loved to see her express her sadness and solidarity with the victims and their families in Orlando.
(Wednesday 13 July 2016; 5:20)
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Social media (64,250)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
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I don't think that Mariah has to be vocal on the social media about current events. There are too many people talking and nothing more than that. I would rather prefer her recording Strange Fruit or facilitating negotiations like James Brown did in the 70's.
(Wednesday 13 July 2016; 4:22)
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Re: Mariah and dem babies (64,233) (64,249)
by RibbonB from USA
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Yes Mimi L., don't you love Monroe as a mermaid? Cute moments.
(Wednesday 13 July 2016; 2:09)
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Re: In all honesty (64,237) (64,248)
by RibbonB from USA
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Of course, but no one should take offense to black lives matter either, yet Rudy Guiliani and countless others have tried to turn it into something negative. Marissa hit the nail on the head with her response. The reason people checked Maxwell was the context not the sentiment. But the real point of my post is people will clap back at celebrities who dare to jump in the mix of current events. It just is what it is.
(Wednesday 13 July 2016; 1:54)
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Re: When is enough really enough? (64,244) (64,247)
by RibbonB from USA
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Oh please Nick is a good guy and he did try to help his wife at every turn. Just because James is rich doesn't mean he is helping her image. In fact look how cheap he and his team are encouraging her to act, reality show and all.
(Wednesday 13 July 2016; 1:50)
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Re: When is enough really enough? (64,244) (64,245)
by Sarah from Netherlands
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I wish people would stop blaming Nick for E=MC2. It went well for a little while, and when she disappeared it was because she miscarried, we know this now. Let it go already. After that she tried to to back to what she does best both with Memoirs and MIAM. I think she really stopped caring after MIAM. This was a very personal album, it tanked. I wouldn't be surprised if she feels abandoned by the fans tbh for not supporting the album. Now she just chooses the tried and true (read: safe) road: that of greatest hits shows and cheap celebrity. But you know, all we can do is speculate about what's currently going on. I digress. My point: stop blaming Nick. At least back then she was writing and still about the music. A little ditzy, but expressed through music nonetheless.
(Wednesday 13 July 2016; 1:05)
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Re: When is enough really enough? (64,213) (64,244)
by John from USA
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I really agree with this. I don't know what's happened to Mariah. I remember she used to be so connected with her fans. I remember she used to leave voicemails on her website back in the day. Now it seems she has people tweeting pics of her just living large around the world. I'm glad she has Roc and Roe and I'm sure she's a good mom, but damn I feel like Nick Cannon had a large part in destroying her career. E=MC2 started off so strong, but once she met him, she fell off the face of Earth and basically abandoned that album. I think her whole relationship and marriage to Nick just really cheapened her image (because Nick's image was never great). What the hell happened to the music? Music seems so tertiary to her "career" these days.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 23:07)
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Re: Looking In (64,230) (64,243)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Well said Natalia. People who are insecure can be easily manipulated. It's the same with playing a role. I remember an interview from 2001 where she says she's like a freaking clown. Best thing to hide insecureness with humor. But something is definitely strange since the last few months. I would be so happy to see an interview where she's just "normal". I mean without those festive moments and talks about music, projects or whatever. Mariah the real person, the musician is missed.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 23:06)
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Re: In all honesty (64,237) (64,241)
by Licia from USA
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All lives are supposed to matter, but in all honesty we both know that's not true in America. All lives matter until they find out you're gay, your racial background, your immigration status, or that you practice any religion other than Christianity.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 22:31)
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Re: In all honesty (64,237) (64,240)
by Marissa from USA
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The statement "all lives matter" is not offensive in itself. The reason people get offended by it is because it is usually said as a rebuttal or clapback to silence the Black Lives Matter movement. All lives do matter, but there hasn't been an epidemic of all lives being taken from police officers, it has been black lives, which is exactly why the statement "Black Lives Matter" is relevant and "all lives matter" gets on people's nerves. It's relevant because right now black lives aren't being treated like they matter, which is why BLM's importance is to serve as a reminder that they do matter, not as a means of being elitist or exclusionary for fun. When the Paris bombing happened, no one said "all countries matter", but they respected the fact at that time Paris needed and deserved the attention. People should apply that same attitude to the killing of black human beings instead of trying to one-up them. I always say that unless you are dealing with a sociopath, assume that people already see "all lives matter" as a given and common sense, thus it doesn't even need to be said. As a black person on the other hand, I can't assume that people will value my humanity, so I will continue to remind them.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 22:26)
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Re: Politics and the opposite of love (64,234) (64,239)
by Giovanni from USA
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Nobody cares dahling. You look for any reason to bash Mariah it's pathetic. Go listen to Eva Cassidy.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 21:52)
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Mimi L. (64,238)
by Giovanni from USA
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I just busted out laughing at your post. I love the awkward sofa and closet moments haha. All that was needed was a talking in the phone moment like in "Shake it off". Mariah mumbling and bobbing her head in a phone. "Infinity" is hands one of her most worst videos. She really needs to step it up.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 21:49)
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In all honesty (64,237)
by Giovanni from USA
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All lives do matter. Anyone who takes offense to that is just plain stupid.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 21:40)
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Re: Brett Ratner (64,232) (64,236)
by RibbonB from USA
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He also directed Hate U, if I do recall. The song was pretty, but the video was weird, especially when Mariah went running accross the beach. Lol.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 21:12)
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Re: Brett Ratner (64,232) (64,235)
by Marissa from USA
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Lmao not "closet bopping" though.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 20:52)
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Politics and the opposite of love (64,234)
by Andrew from UK
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There is no need to state Mariah is not a politician, nobody expects her to act like one. I'm about as interested in Mariah Carey's views on global warming as I am in the Prime Minister's views on music. The point in re: Orlando was that she had just been awarded for being vocal in support of homosexuals and when some of them were slaughtered in her home country even that didn't get her to make a connection. With racial issues, there may be cause to expect her to reach out, also, given that her mixed ethnicity is brought up during every interview and manicure she ever has. These are areas where it is probably natural to expect Mariah to engage with her fans or the wider public in some sort of way. I choose to think that *the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference*. Being moved to a negative emotion doesn't necessarily make you a "hater" or any other silly buzzword because it ignores the fact that you're still invested enough to care, you can be engaged with reasoned with or debated with. When you don't care either way, that's when all is lost. And therein lies the rub, now. Mariah comes across as completely indifferent to anything that doesn't involve how she looks. Indifference where there was once something tangible is depressing and awful.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 20:45)
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Re: Mariah and dem babies (64,228) (64,233)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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That's something where credit is definitely due to Mariah and Nick. I think Roc and Roe are adorable and I love that they are being brought up as normal kids (well as normal as they can be with a superstar mom, a famous dad and multi million dollars in the bank). I mean they dress up like normal kids (unlike the poor North West, who is one of the cutest babies ever but is made to dress like a run way model and is being trained to be a fashionista, wearing uncomfortable clothes and what not), they are all shy and sweet when they get up on stage (unlike some of the sassier kids, who know their parents are big stars and so they take advantage of their privilege), they seem to be involved in normal kid activities and I admire how well Mariah and Nick co-parent. These kids are growing up so fast though, wasn't it just yesterday when Mariah had a huge Easter egg painted on her pregnant belly or when we first got a glimpse of little Roc and Roe in the Barbara Walters interview? I wish the babies all the health and happiness.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 20:38)
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Re: Brett Ratner (64,227) (64,232)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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To be fair to Brett, the only videos he directed after TMB were "Obsessed" and "Infinity". "Obsessed" was cute and they did manage to have somewhat of a cute/funny story line. "Infinity" had good quality and Mariah looked great, what was lacking in the video was a story and logic haha. They could have played up the cameos and extended it instead of the uber awkward closet bopping and sofa moments. I thought the stage shots and the roof shots were nice. But yes, overall they could have done much better. However I will forever remain pissed at Brett for cheapening Mariah's brand by bringing in Stella into the equation. I don't care what people say, her image has never been this trashy and cheap.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 20:28)
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Maxwell All Lives Matter (64,231)
by RibbonB from USA
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So Maxwell has a new cd out this week. He also tweeted about Black Lives Matter in such a way that upset quite a few people. He said something about All Lives Matter, which led many people to think he missed the point especially in light of the Philando shooting in Minn. When getting political goes very wrong. Maxwell has since deleted his tweet and spent some time trying to clarify himself. Either way he got press during his cd release, but not all good. Yet another reason why M. can speak or not speak. Her platform, her risk.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 19:47)
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Looking In (64,230)
by Natalia from Italy
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She is "vanishing away". It seems that she has lost her true self, somewhere along the way. Some seem to think that this is how she has always been, but I don't agree. She seems to be very easily manipulated, and if you look at the past eras, you can see the different influences changed certain things about her image. I almost get the feeling that she is being used and victimized, but I can't say why. I just pray and hope that she will continue to stay strong, and do what is best for her and her children in spite of all of this. Money isn't everything. What is most important is love, real love.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 18:11)
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Mariah's face (64,229)
by Blackground from France
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[censored] How come her face looks bigger now than it did in January when she's been slimming down since then? You'd think her face would slim down too, but no. I used to think that her makeup and the weight was what made her look different since 2015, but the recent pics posted on Instagram got me questioning a lot. She wears very little makeup but still, it doesn't look like the usual Mariah. She doesn't need whatever she's done recently because she's such a natural beauty and she's aged gracefully. Maybe Stella influenced her on certain things, I'm just saying.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 17:58)
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Mariah and dem babies (64,228)
by RibbonB from USA
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I hope they had a pleasant vacation when all is said and done. Roc and Roe are so adorable and growing so fast. I can't wait to see them start riding bikes and to see how they might inspire Mariah to write songs.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 17:12)
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Brett Ratner (64,227)
by RibbonB from USA
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I have never been a fan of Brett and all of his Mariah videos since TMB have been trash. I find it unsettling that he claims Roman Polanski as one of his bff's and mentors though. Eww. On a positive I suppose, his ex girlfriend Serena Williams just won Wimbledon and her 22 grand slam title.
(Tuesday 12 July 2016; 17:08)
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