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My All (88,048) by B from USA Mariah slayed My All in Vegas. I hope she does this good on the Caution tour. Those adlibs are everything. (Friday 15 February 2019; 04:38)

Re: Mariah sick in Vegas (88,045) (88,047) by Susana from USA I'll be there Saturday for my first time in Vegas. I hope she is feeling better. From the clips I heard she still sounded great. (Friday 15 February 2019; 03:17)

Last comment (88,046) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) With all this discipline and hustling and being on the scene JLo is not doing any better commercially truthfully speaking. But the difference is her team covers her missteps better. On the musically her last release in 2014 sold less than MIAM yet it was forgotten about. Even when she released Dinero featuring Khaled and Cardi the song did nothing. So honestly both women have had their failures but Mariah's are more publicized and always have been. Even when MC was on top of the game she was judged more harshly than some of her contemporaries. But I must admit MC has to take better care of certain things than she has in recent years. (Friday 15 February 2019; 02:24)

Mariah sick in Vegas (88,045) by SM from Citizen of the World I’m surprised nobody has posted about her performance last night in Vegas when she had a cold. All the clips I heard still seemed live, you could still hear the cold while she was singing. (Thursday 14 February 2019; 21:41)

Re: Jennifer Lopez's management / Grammys (88,016) (88,044) by TheOne from UK Has she had successive sold out worldwide tours? In fact, has she ever had a legitimate world tour? (Thursday 14 February 2019; 21:20)

J Lo debate (88,043) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I think we can agree that Jennifer obviously has talents, you don't become a global superstar for decades if not. But Mariah has a more natural born given talent that impresses. I think this debate started after frustration over lack of promotion for Caution, and we are all anxiously awaiting the "The No No" remix. Let's give JLo a break, and let's all start to get exited for the upcoming tour and single release. (Thursday 14 February 2019; 18:13)

Re: J.Lo's "management team" (88,038) (88,042) by B from USA It was officially announced as the second single by Epic and will be serviced to mainstream R&B/Hip-hop and Rhythmic radio on March 4. (Thursday 14 February 2019; 14:06)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey's "I Don't" joins Hot 100 at #89 (88,039) (88,041) by B from USA Not sure. However, with Epic continuing to promote With You at AC and Adult R&B radio and releasing A No to mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop and Rhythmic radio on March 4 one or both might. Fingers crossed. (Thursday 14 February 2019; 14:04)

Re: J.Lo (88,037) (88,040) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines What do these harsh comparisons accomplish, though? The woman is still successful regardless of chart status. Pitting two women against each other is so 2016. One would think #MeToo would have changed most minds about that. And yes, she is a plagiarist, a bad singer, a pawn for Tommy's evil plans with zero artistic originality, but she can still perform and dance circles around most artists half her age and she truly is hardworking - with a laser focus that Mariah has lacked for a decade now. Both women are inspirations and successful in their own right despite their weaknesses. Both have different things they excel at. Some Mariah fans just tend to be bitter for bitter sake and defend their actions as "just being honest", and that is just petty and sad. Well there's fine line between being honest and being a jerk. It makes the entire Lambily look like insecure babies. I mean granted, other fandoms are probably pretty much doing the same, but why can't we be the ones who take the high road? Let us be objective and call things for what they really are, even on a fan board where it's childishly expected to hate your fave's rivals or enemies "just because". (Thursday 14 February 2019; 13:53)

Article: Mariah Carey's "I Don't" joins Hot 100 at #89 (88,039) by Lainsky from Philippines Caution released tracks are way better than this single. How come they have failed (With You, GTFO) to make it into the main chart like "I Don't"? At least this single was able to make a dent and peaked inside the Hot 100. Just wondering... (Thursday 14 February 2019; 11:08)

Re: J.Lo's "management team" (88,030) (88,038) by Hector from Mexico Is official the release of A No No in March, or just speculation? (Thursday 14 February 2019; 07:35)

Re: J.Lo (88,032) (88,037) by Lee from USA Did you see the Grammys? High energy and great work ethic, my ass. If our girl's last #1 was a decade ago, then JLo have not had one in nearly twenty years. You can't pop off on how great JLo is if you are not spending no money, energy and time on supporting her. (Thursday 14 February 2019; 02:16)

Inspirational EP or project (88,036) by IheartMC from USA Hey guys, with Tori Kelly winning her first Grammy's for her pop/gospel album, I was thinking why hasn't Mariah made a record in this format? It would be her chance at another Grammy. She has amazing records in the vein of believing and praising the lord. I would love to hear some unreleased gems and infuse some of the ones we already know. What do you guys think? This is what my set of inspirational records I have been listening to from Mariah. What's yours? Jesus, What a wonderful Child Through The Rain Hero Anytime you need a friend One Sweet day Fly Like a Bird My Saving Grace I am Free Jesus Born on this day So Blessed I Wish you well Make It Happen There's got to be a way Can't take that way Right to Dream Heavenly Bonus There For me (Thursday 14 February 2019; 00:49)

Re: J.Lo (88,032) (88,035) by Hector from Mexico Well said. Is the honest truth. (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 23:49)

Re: J.Lo (88,032) (88,034) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Well said. (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 22:44)

Re: J.Lo (88,032) (88,033) by Dove from United States I'm usually not such a mean girl. I'm old. After I read my comment I even felt bad. I thought about it and honestly I guess I'm just jealous of JLo's success. But I'm over it now. (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 22:10)

Re: J.Lo (88,027) (88,032) by Marissa from USA Thank you. JLo is in excellent shape, an excellent dancer, consistently puts on high-energy performances and is a hustler. She knows that singing is not her strength so shading that is pointless. She is driven, disciplined, personable and has a great work ethic and that is something that has been hit and miss in Mariah's world from 2008 on. When we point fingers at other artists there are usually three fingers pointing back at Mariah. JLo's management? Mariah let her management burn bridges, tarnish her reputation and she has a history of being unstable without good management in place. Mediocre performing songs on the charts? Mariah's last number one was over a decade ago. Flop vocals? MC's live mic feeds anyone? Yes Mariah's more vocally gifted but for years she didn't take care of it, so the point is? If we're being honest, you can't brag about inherent talent because it is God-given and you didn't do anything to get it. You can only take some credit for your work ethic because that's the result of choices you make to develop your talent. The faltering work ethic was a major contributor to Mariah's career decline and the one thing that Mariah needed is what JLo has, whether people like it or not. Our fave has had her fair share of bad vocals, management debacles and questionable work ethic so coming for other artists is like throwing stones from a glass house. Mariah's career/reputation has taken too many hits for someone of her caliber for so much shit-talking. She doesn't have to be your preferred artist but to trivialize everything she does because Mariah doesn't like her comes across as very high school mean girl-ish. They're two different artists who have different strengths and weaknesses. Let's leave it at that. (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 21:12)

Re: Caution track (88,025) (88,031) by B from USA This excerpt from Est.1997 sums up why Caution should be a single better than I ever could. "With a seductive yet haunting beat and pristine vocals, it immediately engages the listener. The song has clear tropical influences allowing it to sound current without overdoing it to sound trendy, a line Mariah has always been able to tread well. Her buttery vocals effortlessly slide atop the slick and cutting No I.D. produced beat. Its chorus might just be the best on the album, it just sticks. Caution is fresh, yet reminiscent of late 90s and early 2000s R&B such as Brandy's Never Say Never (1998) and Aaliyah's self-titled final album (2001), which is also probably why it sounds like something Drake would cook up. Without any specific promotion, the song has managed to become one of the album's most streamed tracks, speaking volumes to its sheer greatness". (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 20:27)

Re: J.Lo's "management team" (88,021) (88,030) by B from USA The promotion will resume in March when Mariah and Epic release A No No. With With You continuing to do well on Adult Contemporary and R&B radio it's keeping Mariah's name out there and hopefully getting casual listeners to stream Caution. She's back in Vegas so she really can't do much at the moment. (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 20:23)

Re: J.Lo (88,027) (88,029) by Dove from United States Good points. Well, since I ragged on JLo now I feel like I have to say something nice about her to cancel out the bad vibes I put out. I mean, it is obvious JLo does work really hard and is disciplined. Even though the Motown tribute still sounded bad (to my ears) it does sound like she's been taking voice lessons and trying to improve. She no longer sounds like a dying animal. Also, it's cool that she was able to break out as a singer when she was almost 30. (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 13:20)

Re: JLo (88,026) (88,028) by Dove from United States I listened to some of JLo's hit songs and the only parts that are pleasant are the parts she's not singing. She truly is a terrible singer. Supposedly she's gotten better but I listened to the Motown tribute and it sounded whiny and monotone. This really does prove that having the right image and people behind you can buy you success. I know that Britney and Taylor and Gwen are not the best singers but they have unique and pleasant (in my opinion) voices. Britney and Gwen have major "it" factor. Taylor writes songs that relate to girls her age. They're not as deep as singer/songwriters of my time (Fiona Apple, Tori Amos, etc) but I still find talent in her. JLo's talent is that she looks good and dresses nice and knows the right people. It's just hilarious to me that she's gotten as far as she has. You proved your point Motolla. Let Mariah have her throne back. (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 12:55)

J.Lo (88,027) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines In any messageboard, it's popular to rag on people who have done your fave wrong. And I have had my share of that and will continue to every now and then when it is necessary. However, I also believe in fairness and giving credit where it is due, instead of just dismissing someone entirely just because they are not of Mariah's caliber talent-wise or did her wrong in one way or another. Sometimes the rants are valid, but half the time they're mostly just pile-ons that only serve to reveal just how insecure we could be as fans. Let's get this straight first - while J.Lo did deserve to be in the opening monologue of the Grammys, there is no way in hell that she was ever appropriate to do a Motown tribute - not today, never on any day. However, it really speaks to her management's savvy that she is consistently able to book these high-profile gigs. And for someone who can't sing, she has done remarkably well in music, having her own catalog of hits (albeit some were notoriously stolen), but one cannot deny that her first 4-5 albums had some great material despite being surrounded by tons of obvious and often awful filler. Sure, one could definitely argue that she is being promoted and marketed as if she were still a newbie, that she still fails to make much of an impact considering that she's practically everywhere, or that she's doing it because she hasn't reached the legendary status Mariah has achieved, etc. All points are valid, but the fact remains that the woman works her ass of. She's even more of a determined perfectionist than Mariah is. She always looks great, she's hella disciplined, and she makes sure all of her bases are covered. Try as much as you want to minimize her contributions to her own success, you'll only end up failing because the proof is in the work - she knows this game really well, she's smart enough to surround herself with some of the best people in the entertainment industry, and constantly plays to her strengths. And while she has made her way to the top with several questionable career choices and moves, she's doing one hell of a job to maintain the level of success she has reached. Promotion and marketing can only go so far. Mariah, on the other hand, is more of a free spirit and as gone way too far with the "eternally 12" excuse, winging performances left and right and poorly lipping in occasions that really matter. She lacks the discipline to avoid the things that further damage her voice and even struggles to keep her figure on top form. True, she has somehow gotten her crap together over last year and it was glorious to watch her finally back to acting like a legend should, but she also tends to rest on her laurels a lot and is likely to feel entitled. Well, she has earned it, but it does come across as her not caring enough, which is unfair when her fans care too much. Like someone here previously said, there's something admirable about someone capable of wearing many hats. It shows a hunger for growth and a desire to learn no matter what age you are. I hate to use social media following as a gauge of popularity and impact, but in 2019, that does mean something. It means you're more likeable and relatable, regardless if it translates to actual commercial or critical success or not. It shows that people care, regardless of what age demographic they belong to. I am happy for both Mariah and J.Lo because they prove that women, especially middle-aged women can run the world when they know what they're good at and keep hustling. Mariah released her best album since 2005 and redeemed herself from what we thought was an irreparable career and public image. J.Lo shows no signs of stopping anytime soon and has been juggling multiple ventures whilst putting most 20 and 30 somethings to shame looks-wise. Let us not unnecessarily drag people down just to put one up. J.Lo is a better business woman, a great dancer and a better actress than Mariah. Mariah is a living legend who can still sing most people under the table on a good day and is still one of the best and most underrated songwriters and creative people around. No point of comparison in the first place. (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 12:32)

Re: JLo (88,019) (88,026) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes, when I watched Glitter in 2001 that was my first thought. Sylk in the movie is J.Lo, there are no doubts. Haha. The actress who played Sylk really looks like J.Lo and the stealing of the song was also in the scene. I'm pretty sure that was Mariah's idea. (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 11:22)

Re: Caution track (88,022) (88,025) by Lara from Middle East Although Giving Me Life and A No No and 8th Grade are my favorites from the album, I find myself humming Caution. That might be a sign it's a catchy tune. Can anybody hear the similarity with 7 Rings from Ariana Grande when the track starts? (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 10:10)

Re: Mariah in the Middle East (88,020) (88,024) by Lara from Middle East She has her fans but definitely not hugely popular. I barely catch her on the radio unless it's the 90s ballads ("Without you my all" mainly). The freshest I've heard from her was #Beautiful and that was 2 years ago. Even during Christmas they don't play AIFWCIY that much. Nevertheless, her concert in 2003 from the Charmbracelet tour 73 was fully booked. I believe she has fans but they just don't show it off. (Wednesday 13 February 2019; 10:01)

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