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Predictions (102,628) by T from USA No word on another Rarities. It would be nice but we don't even know if there are enough finished/polished songs to make up a whole album. I for one think Rarities albums are a great idea because there is no pressure for sales or any real expectations. It's strictly for the fans and keeps the lambily active until she does get the inspiration to record again. But then again, Mariah herself never said there would be a sequel and maybe it was a one off to coincide her book. Sort of a track listing to some of the songs she mentions in her memoir. If I could wish something into existence I would want a Remixes II and a Rarities II. (Tuesday 25 April 2023; 00:41) this is a reply to message 102,622

Predictions (102,622) by Tevin from USA Thanks T for the insight. Any word on a Rarities 2 or continuation of MC 30? Granted that means more work behind the scenes for Mariah, but she doesn't have to create new songs or a album since they would have already existed. (Monday 24 April 2023; 15:06)

Predictions (102,621) by T from USA None of these predictions will happen. At least not this year. Her close friend and lamb correspondent already confirmed on Twitter that no SUD and no Butterfly Lounge this year. She also noted that Mariah is a human being who needs time and space and cannot just snap her fingers and produce an album. So she urged patience. I only bring this bad news so to temper expectations. There are no new Mariah songs this years. (Monday 24 April 2023; 14:33) this is a reply to message 102,619

Predictions (102,619) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa I have a feeling that we will get some interesting projects released by Mariah this year. I've a hunch that she has been in the studio with Beyonce. My intuition is that Act II may be an inspirational album, maybe with covers of classics in the culture. If so maybe AYNAF (alternatively this will appear on TBL). Unless Mariah hopped on a remix of Plastic Off The Sofa or Virgo's Groove. And I heard a rumour that Mariah has something coming out with SZA. Did she hop on Blind maybe? Or is this another song for the Lounge? SUD is coming this year too. I hope she includes some features on this project with like Willow Smith or someone else that has a fresh alternative style. And maybe we will see Mariah and Ariana together on Honey this year. I hope The Butterfly Lounge is the project that carries us into the Rarities 2 and jazz album. This next couple of years will hold several "eras" I hope. (Monday 24 April 2023; 01:21)

Legacy (102,609) by T from USA I think there are two things at play. One, is her voice is not there to record a whole album without being bashed that it sounds too chipmunky with the technology used to prop it up. The second is that for whatever reason (maybe reason number one) is that no label wants to sign her for the money she wants. Some of the biggest career missteps after TEOM that could have helped preserve her superstar status would've been releasing Migrate, and also promoting MOAIA to its full potential. So many cancelled business dealings like VH1 Storytellers etc during that era. Her Idol experience and the album that she was clearly forced to make by Island/Def Jam and Barry Weiss at the time were a mess. Very unprofessional. Just by correcting those three little things would've totally changed the game for her right now. Record Labels are very weary right now about signing people to big money. Mariah isn't the most reliable or bankable artist if it's not AIWFCIY related. As a fan I would love one more full length album. I don't think we will see that until at least 2025 to be honest. Writing has always been her cathartic release, I guess she got that when she wrote the book. Now there is no need at the moment. The artist that used to write because she loved it has turned more into a business women who writes when the money is there. If anything, can't she do her fans one more thing and at least finish the MC30 that she started by putting HateU remix and others on streaming? (Saturday 22 April 2023; 14:39) this is a reply to message 102,605

Legacy (102,605) by Randy from USA One of the things that bother me with the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens is the over celebration of AIWFCIY. A few years ago the older Stans were on here arguing what MC's signature song was. We tentatively settled on Hero. But now it's clear what she's going to be known for if this yearly record keeps happening. I think that the noise around that song fades away some of the most amazing singer songwriter compositions ever recorded. Mariah Carey is more than some relic you drag out of the closet and dust off on November 1st. Another damaging thing that the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens celebrate is her whistle register. Yes it is lovely. But that register doesn't make a great singer. I remember in the promotion for Emotions she said she didn't use it more on the track because she didn't want it to become a gimmick. She laid off it quite a bit on Music Box and Daydream but when the voice changed around #1s it was on full display for Rainbow. I think it's a crutch used to prove she can still sing. But if you have lost your belting register, are you gonna whistle your next albums? I just worry that Mariah's career is in a bleak spot and people are shining spotlights on things that narrow her legacy to a whistling Christmas act. Thoughts? (Saturday 22 April 2023; 03:34)

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,597) by T from USA I think at one point Mariah questioned if she should release these niche projects (like the duets, inspirational Butterfly Lounge) or if she should start working on an actual new commercial studio album. Maybe she changed gears and is starting to write MC16. Or maybe like many speculate she has lost her voice and is not doing anything music wise anymore. I actually wouldn't mind if she ended on the high that was Caution. Too bad more people didn't buy/stream it. Then again, if they didn't buy her in 2018 what makes us think the would in 2023? If Caution is the last full album at least I'm grateful that it was quality. (Friday 21 April 2023; 02:48) this is a reply to message 102,595

Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,595) by Randy from USA I do agree that MC is going to lose fans if she doesn't release an album soon, however, I don't know if releasing a studio album is profitable for her anymore. I'm noticing that Cardi B hasn't released her second album. Many other acts wait a long time between albums. We got spoiled by the 90s. Maybe MC could give as an EP or a maxi-single with different versions like I Still Believe or My All/Stay Awhile. It would have to be a killer single though not an Infinity or I Don't. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 23:43)

No new album in 2023 (102,589) by T from USA It's been all but confirmed by some Mariah insiders on Twitter that she does not have the rumored projects coming this year that everyone thought. Not even the Butterfly Lounge. That leaves us waiting until next year, however seeing how 2024 is the 30th Anniversary of "Merry Christmas" I'm sure that will be the priority next year. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 00:02)

Article: Mariah Carey delays The Art Of Letting Go release (102,509) by T from USA Not sure how delaying it added to the experience of the album. In hindsight maybe a July 2013 would've been the best idea. (Friday 7 April 2023; 23:15)

Article: Track list revealed for Mariah's new album (102,508) by T from USA This is interesting and quite accurate except a few points. I wonder who got this information and do some of those songs actually exist? (Friday 7 April 2023; 23:13)

Will the real MC please stand up (102,424) by T from USA I think both Mariah and MC are the real Ms. Carey. Obviously she was more focused at the beginning of her career but she also had something to prove. She was also handled in a certain way. I remember at the beginning she was only allowed to go on talk shows to sing, not talk. Because I think the machine was hiding the fact that she has anxiety but also were scared of her immature qualities to shine through. Her eternally 12 self. Now it's all her all the time. She lost the sweet innocent quality but that will happen after being jaded for 33 years now. Prisoner and Up Out My Face are not that different. The co-producer certainly has an impact on each song. Also, with the changes in her voice she had to compensate, it was also around the time that popular music was Britney, Christina, Spice Girls and Madonna. So a change was needed. She briefly returned to the old Mariah with Charmbracelet in 2002 but didn't have the voice on the record to back it up. The writing was top notch however. After the emancipation there was no going back. I think there are many sides to Mariah and all of them are real for her. (Thursday 30 March 2023; 14:04)

Album delay (102,423) by T from USA Does anyone else get the feeling that all these projects in the works that never see the light of day is really because she's stalling? I wonder if her voice is too far gone? Back in the 90's Mariah could bang out an album every year. Or could it be that she is scared of the commercial performance which is freezing her from putting anything out? She's been talking about the same three projects now for three years since 2020, and it's obvious nothing is coming this year. So that means it will be four years since we first heard about SUD or TBL. And next year will be six years since her last studio album. I personally don't mind if Caution is her last album, as it is that good, knowing full well that her next real studio album will probably be her last. (Thursday 30 March 2023; 13:54)

The duets album is finally upon us (102,265) by T from USA I found this article entitled: Mariah Carey re-signs with Epic after 15 years away from eight years ago in 2015 when went back to Sony and LA Reid and interestingly enough the first project talked about was an updated greatest hits re-done in a form of a duets album. Now we know LA Reid didn't get his way back then and he ultimately was fired and she released a new studio album, but now that she's working with him again it seems like the duets, redo of her greatest hits may actually be happening in the form of the Butterfly Lounge. We already heard Close My Eyes 2020, WBT 2021, and The Roof with Brandy 2022. (Saturday 25 February 2023; 16:29)

SuperBowl Halftime Show (102,217) by T from USA Mariah could do it with the right amount of imagination. Stadium goes completely black, then the flood lights, then a light sprinkling of artificial snow as the opening chords of AIWFCIY starts. Interrupted by a loud "it's time" which leads right into ODB's Fantasy remix intro. Can splice up Obsessed, I Know What You Want, Honey, and It's Like That. Do a little ABMB and WBT and end with either Hero or a hologram of Whitney where she duets on When You Believe. It would be epic. Done right it would showcase her catalogue but also how Iconic she is. Outfit: no dresses, just her black pants and top she had for the Daydream album cover. Slip on a faux fur coat for a song or two but keep it simple. Maybe come out with a Santa hat at the beginning before whipping it off, as a melting metaphor. (Monday 13 February 2023; 16:16)

New songs (102,216) by T from USA Everyone who is saying she hasn't given us anything since Caution need to remember that since Caution we've been given: The Rarities, In The Mix, Somewhat Loved, Fall In Love At Christmas, BE(R), etc. (Monday 13 February 2023; 16:09)

Mariah with UMG (102,199) by T from USA I've been saying for a while that Mariah should sign back up with Universal and continue her legacy from Charmbracelet to MIAMTEC. She's done everything she can do with Sony at this point, including securing AIWFCIY as her 19th #1 hit. This would be a chance for her to work her other albums properly. Also without a major label there will be no appetite for a new album unfortunately. Labels have A&R people who link her up with great songs and producers. (Think #Beautiful with Miguel.) Without a label she has to do all the reaching out and all the paying for it herself. I just can't see that happening. Maybe a whole album with JD and Daniel Moore, but that's about it. A&R departments have their ears to the streets and know what's up. (Friday 10 February 2023; 14:44) this is a reply to message 102,198

Mariah with UMG (102,198) by "MariahHater" from Hell I saw the release credits for IAW and she is partnered with UMG. Let me know if this [is] part of Sony or another label. [I'm] confused with this. (Friday 10 February 2023; 11:45)

Mariah back with IDJ (102,143) by T from USA Now that Mariah is no longer with a record label how would everyone feel if she re-signed with Island Def Jam records? I mean she went back to Sony in 2015 and for the five years that followed until 2020 Rarities she used her former label to build on her legacy with the company. Whilst still releasing one new album, Caution. Could she possibly do that now with IDJ? Use the next five years to build on her Island discography and give us one new album along the way. She could start with a MOAIA re-release now that It's a Wrap is blowing up. Tack on Drake to the track and release the album with the HATEU remix plus Skydiving. Then continue with #MC30. This would be a great route for her and give her some much needed direction right now. I'd take IDJ over Epic anyway. (Saturday 28 January 2023; 14:18)

Merry Christmas to All on MTV (101,956) by T from USA Does anybody know if the concert aired on MTV in any countries? I remember the press release said it would but then I heard that it was taken off the schedules. Did it in fact air on MTV? I really hope so as more exposure for MC at this time of the year will set her up nicely for her next project. (Sunday 25 December 2022; 04:37)

Walter A. sold his rights (101,952) by T from USA He sold his share of rights and then the next year Mariah started to ramp up the promotion like never before. It even went to #1 in 2019. I think she was pleased that he wasn't going to make a dime off the success so she really went into overdrive. Before that she would be working her butt off and making him rich in the process. Just like during the concert she mentions Marc Shaiman for CTIITAA but not Walter for her biggest hit AIWFCIY. (Saturday 24 December 2022; 15:44) this is a reply to message 101,949

Walter A. sold his rights (101,949) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia For those who don't know, Walter sold his rights to a company named Hipgnosis a couple of years back. Meaning that he was paid loads of money, one off, and that's it. All other annual earnings or royalties would go to the company and Mariah. From what I've read, other singers like Justin Timberlake, David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen also sold all their catalogues. I hope Mariah would hold dear all her catalogues and soon pass it down to her children. (Saturday 24 December 2022; 14:08)

Sickick Obsessed remix featuring Madonna (101,624) by T from USA 50 Cent keeps attacking Madonna out of nowhere because of the way she looks and acts on social media. It's very abusive and very obsessive. Wouldn't the ultimate power move would be an Obsessed remix with Madonna and Mariah? (Friday 11 November 2022; 00:48)

MC LA JLo (101,348) by T from USA Didn't JLo follow LA Reid after he was fired from Sony to his own label creation? And nothing happened with her singing career, only a few flop singles and no album to speak of. I hope Mariah doesn't get the same old lady diva treatment. The last thing they worked on together was "I Don't" but also Stella was in the picture. I just hope LA Reid understands that this is probably his last shot at such a big time artist working with him as well so he should throw everything he's got towards it. (Tuesday 27 September 2022; 17:02)

LA Reid is back (101,325) by T from USA Variety has published an article stating that LA Reid is executive producing her new album. He did TEOM, E=MC2, Memoirs. So I guess from the new one we can expect quality material with horrible single choices. (Monday 26 September 2022; 04:36)

I'm sorry, but (101,165) by T from USA I'm sorry but if Mariah can take a day to go to an amusement park then she could've clearly devoted a day to film a music video with Latto for BER. People will say she doesn't owe us anything anymore. However I don't agree, she has a duty to give to the people who continue to support her. She has built a massive fan base and that fan base has to be fed. Otherwise it's time to retire and disappear. But you can't have it both ways. Can't expect us to continue to follow and buy stuff from you and yet you don't put in the effort to your career. (Friday 9 September 2022; 15:00)

Re: The Ballads compilation (101,130) (101,139) by T from USA I always thought it was just a cash in album from Sony. Totally unnecessary because there was already a greatest hits. Unless it was going to go back and look completely at her more obscure ballads to shine light on her songwriting. Personally I'd rather a covers album at the time: 1. I'll Be There 2. Endless Love 3. Without You 4. Open Arms 5. Beautiful Ones 6. I Still Believe 7. Do You Know Where You're Going 8. Against All Odds 9. Didn't Mean To Turn You On 10. Bringing On The Heartbreak 11. I Want To Know What Love Is (new) (Sunday 4 September 2022; 14:23)

Re: Butterfly announcement? (101,137) (101,138) by T from USA Nothing is happening in 2022. And honestly she deserves a break after a long pandemic. We are lucky she hoped on the BE Remix and that she did a little performance at the BET awards. Let's look forward to 2023 and hope there is new original music in the cards. (Sunday 4 September 2022; 14:12)

If it was Whitney? (101,039) by T from USA I think everyone agrees that a legend with the status of Mariah Carey should be getting label investment on her projects, and not just the Christmas projects. Let me ask this, if the roles were reversed and it was Whitney Houston the one still alive, would she be treated like the music royalty that she is? Would she be respected by her label, given a proper push, money for videos, playlists and songs on radio? Would she be getting everything Mariah is not? (Thursday 25 August 2022; 15:05)

Re: The Butterfly Lounge (101,032) (101,033) by T from USA I would be okay with a retirement announcement. (After one more studio album lol.) I think first a Rarities 2 this year. New album next year. Final Christmas push in 2024 to mark the 30th anniversary of Merry Christmas. And then retirement. (Thursday 25 August 2022; 02:59)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey wants to trademark "Queen of Christmas" (101,008) (101,009) by T from USA Her voice is shot. Her brand is over. She made bad decisions both health wise and career wise. Usually based on on money. She always said she learned from the Virgin deal and would never base her choices off money again but of course that didn't last. And neither did her career. What she has left is Christmas and that's what we're gonna get. It's too bad that after her second album she didn't continue in the musicianship she was displaying instead of going the super popular pop route. I know we all love Music Box, Daydream and Butterfly but then it kept going into Rainbow and Glitter and the pop indulgence was to great for her artistry. She should've left that kind of music to the Spice Girls and Britney Spears. Even if she would've completely left after #1's and came back with TEOM in 2005 it would've been better. Roc Nation did their best with little Mariah effort to restore her back a little but what does she do? Fire them after Caution under performs. At least with them we got new music, good music. (Sunday 21 August 2022; 17:00)

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