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Re: I mean no offence, but... (57,981) (57,982) by ADAM from USA
I agree with your observations about Mariah. This latest press tour from her print interviews to Live with Kelly and Steve Harvey have been a snooze fest. Same mechanical answers and lifeless body language. Not making fun of her but I really believe it's because she may be on antidepressants. A common side effect of these drugs are this kind of behavior she exhibits. It's unfortunate but it's true. I'm not judging, I'm stating the obvious for a long time. She's in her own world and doesn't give coherent logical answers or insight anymore to questions. If you compare her 1999 lost interview recording which was discovered earlier this year and her 1999 Charlie Rose interview to current day interviews and you'll see a stark regression in her personality and demeanor. I believe Morgan Carey's account about her mental state and while I'm not sure about his motives for revealing it, I believe Mariah is doing well and I still love her. Just because she may suffer from mental illness doesn't take away my respect for her nor do I think she should be ridiculed for it. At lest she's getting help and living her life. Thanks for sharing your observation on the board.
(Wednesday 25 November 2015; 23:53)
Re: I'm going to reply (57,403) (57,407) by ADAM from USA
Thank you so much for sharing your insight and not backing down from your opinion. I too feel the same way about Mariah's performing abilities. While I am a long time fan of hers, I believe she does a lot of smoke and mirrors when performing live that are no illusions to fans like us in the know. Please don't let some of the blinded fans of here dissuade you from sharing your views about MC. Just because fans express the truth or unflattering things about our favorite singer does not make us haters.
(Tuesday 20 October 2015; 1:25)
Charmbracelet vs Memoirs (56,596) by ADAM from USA
These two albums would be a better point of comparison. I rank CB as my least favorite album primarily because of the way she sings throughout the record. Not a fan of her whistle tone and felt it was a snooze-fest. The only highlights were "Subtle Invitation" (beautiful lyrics and belting) and "Bringing On the Heartbreak" (love she went rock and owned it, I wish she did more). I felt if sang this record in her full voice it would have been more successful because the recipe was a quintessential MC album. Both albums were sleeper records that didn't perform well and looking back had gems, introspective records, and records that should have been left off altogether ("Boy"). In closing, even though it had less variety of styles to choose from and few producers, "Memoirs" is a riskier album to put out and shows she really didn't care about the status quo and made the RnB album she's always wanted. It was very R. Kelly-esque to release a full on concept record from beginning to end while adding a confessional song ("Languishing") and cover song (IWKWLI) to make the album still commercial enough to appeal to existing MC fans.
(Friday 11 September 2015; 14:30)
E=MC2 vs. Memoirs (56,594) by ADAM from USA
This is a great topic for debate. Although I agree E=MC2 had more radio friendly songs that weren't given the light of day, I still felt it lacked the integrity a MC album usually has for me. I guess I became used to having her obscure introspective songs that balanced out the "single" worthy records. Even though "I Wish You Well" falls into that category I still don't like the structure and confessional-church like quality to it. On the other hand, Memoirs while it does feel like one long big song that is monotonous, I really like. I think that record was the biggest risk she took. She really set out to make a concept record with a limited number of producers and I applaud that. It's really one complete arch and I like that. I love the smart clever lyrics and wide use of her lower register. I still get goosebumps whenever I play "IWKWLI" - it makes me nostalgic for the original song and love her interpretation that reminds me of "Anytime You Need A Friend". In closing, E=MC2 feels too generic and uninspired with a cohesive theme vs Memoirs which felt like a concept record with her usual confessional lyrics about her inner life peppered throughout each song. Great topic.
(Friday 11 September 2015; 14:13)
I Don't Wanna Cry (55,209) by ADAM from USA
It's really great to read each fans reactions to fan-favorites and obscures songs alike. I Don't Wanna Cry is one of my favorites songs of all-time. I love the lyrics and production as well as how she belts her vibrato and goes in and out of using her lower and upper register to convey the emotion of the song. Surprisingly, she outdid herself during the live performances in her shows in Osaka and Rotterdam during the Daydream tour 5 years later. This was IMO one of the rare few instances of a live performance eclipsing the recorded song that I prefer. Her voice during that era was really bright and smooth and felt she had even more range than 1990. And the icing on the cake was how she added a closing long vibrato note with the background singers singing I Don't Wanna Cry over and over. Very haunting and very beautiful.
(Sunday 12 July 2015; 16:35)
Songs I would never like to hear again (55,208) by ADAM from USA
Kate I really like this question you've posted to the forum. I really would love it if I never heard Hero performed again. It's funny because I enjoy the album version with her voice really bright and smooth and the piano backdrop however IMO it's a song that as time goes on and her voice gains more texture to it really grates on my nerves and doesn't sound heavenly like the album. It sounds labored and shrill-like. As far as the album cuts I do not like Just To Hold You Once Again, Silent Night, Never Too Far, Did I Do That?, Ex-Girlfriend, I Only Wanted, Migrate, Memoirs Cd (except HATEU, IWKWLI, Languishing, More Than Just Friends). And from the latest album, Faded, Make It Look, and Heavenly I always skip.
(Sunday 12 July 2015; 16:22)
Wetsuits and marriage (54,845) by ADAM from USA
My point was really that she's great without them. Someone pointed out here that several years ago she was a similar size and on vacation in a 2 piece bikini that was sequined in a green ombre shade. Those were my thought exactly. I love how confident she looked with her fuller figure, natural curls and champagne all at once dahlings. That's all. She really looks to be having an amazing time with James and extremely pretty in that picture with the long silver gown. She really is a stunner. I don't know about another marriage so soon for MC but if it's ok by her ultimately then it's ok by me. I love to see her happy and it seems so. Perhaps she's also writing music at this time too so we'll all be the beneficiary of that as well.
(Wednesday 24 June 2015; 13:21)
Wetsuits (54,818) by ADAM from USA
It's clear to me that she's insecure about her current size because she's in wetsuit whenever she's on a beach or boat but to the public its silly. It's silly because it makes her look bigger than what she is and weird when everyone else around her are in bathing suits. She's looks ridiculous and should just own her current size. She has big breasts and is very curvy - we know and so does she. Also having worn wetsuits, it's very hot and uncomfortable so I can't fathom why she doesn't just show off her body, she's clearly not shy about shoving her breasts in everyone's face. Fingers crossed she gets the message.
(Tuesday 23 June 2015; 16:08)
Mariah and James Packer (54,790) by ADAM from USA
It's nice to see Mariah on vacation and seemingly happy dating James Packer. Since none of us know the circumstances how long they knew each other and even if they recently met, is it really anyone's place to pass judgement on whether its appropriate that James be around her children? If Mariah is fine with it and Nick is okay with it, why does it matter to anyone else? I personally think it never makes sense when critics speculate because he's rich and she's rich then it equates happiness. Money doesn't make one happy in the end. She's made many decisions based on money and it's only brought her ridicule and unhappiness. Hopefully she's learned some new lessons but otherwise I think she looks great in her fuller figure and letting her hair out naturally. I love how she looks when she vacations in Europe and wears bright vibrant colors and truly what she wants to wear. I think everyone in the game is so stylized and has no individual style but MC is always true to herself - extremely girly and loves a mule stiletto. I personally like that in spite of everyone's ridicule over her fashion choices (including me at times) that she stays true to herself and never lets go of her inner 12 year old self. A lesson we could all learn when weathering any storm.
(Monday 22 June 2015; 15:04)
Walter on the Music Box record (54,696) by ADAM from USA
Thanks for sharing that article. I've never read it but found it so fascinating. I really love those 2 working together and felt they created beautiful harmonies and records that will always be untouched. I wished Mariah would grow up and move on from her grips about him. He's has been complementary to her in many interviews and appears to want to work with her again. I think its impossible for her to listen to her catalogue of records and not wonder that Walter is responsible for a huge part of her success. Someone close to her needs to break through to her to work together with Walter for a new album. Pretty please.
(Wednesday 17 June 2015; 18:02)
Response to Andrew (54,581) by ADAM from USA
Andrew your comments are on the money today. My sentiments exactly. Mariah needs to rehaul her career. She's been on repeat mode since 1999 in my opinion with Rainbow being a clone copy of all her previous hits - Dreamlover, Underneath The Stars, My All to name a few. Unfortunately she is so bullish about reinventing her material. I want her to stop going back to the same writing partners and using JD and Jimmy Jam. That well is tapped dry and no one wants a rehash of familiar sounding jams. She's got so much talent but refuses to see the light. I personally don't care about her weight but will admit that dressing the way she does doesn't flatter her figure when she's clearly not a size 0 anymore. This is no shade just the truth. If it were up to me she would have signed Clive Davis and worked with partners in different genres like Daft Punk and Bruno Mars to create a concept album. She's lost a lot of credibility in the publics eyes and needs to regain her artistry in the form of a great album that no ones expecting. I know it won't happen but one can wish right? After all she said at one point that she'd never perform I Don't Wanna Cry and Someday and now look at her.
(Friday 12 June 2015; 17:08)
Morgan Carey's story (54,255) by ADAM from USA
I believe Morgan's story. If anything, he's been the oldest and most confident source in Mariah's family who would know those kind of details about her life. I still don't understand how some people on this board try and destroy this man's credibility when he clearly actually knows Mariah personally vs all of us watching from afar. It's clear from his account, that he's voicing his concern for her safety. That's what a brother is supposed to do if he can no longer reach out to her directly. We all know Mariah has a huge ego and cuts anyone off from her circle who even whispers an ounce of truth, so why is it hard to accept Morgan? In the last 2 weeks Jermaine Dupri and Morgan both have revealed Mariah needs help. I believe the only way Mariah will get the help she needs is if she seeks it out. These people really love her and have told her the truth in person and have clearly been shut out so they outed her publicly as a last resort.
(Saturday 6 June 2015; 1:33)
Least favorite songs (54,239) by ADAM from USA
These are my selections of cuts I always skip over/detest:
Others - 100% (boring, old formula), Triumphant (how can she be a feature artist on her own song, barely audible)
MIAM - Faded (forgettable, ugh vocals), Heavenly (too much going on, Fly Like A Bird was better)
MOIA - Ribbon, Inseparable (forgettable), Angels Cry (generic)
E=MC2 - Migrate (nice song but wrong artist), Cruise Control (laughable and corny)
TEOM - To The Floor, Get Your Number, Joy Ride (epic belt but feels empty)
Glitter - skip everything but Lead The Way
Charmbracelet - skip everything but Irresistible, Subtle Invitation
Rainbow - Did I Do That? (jarring and whack), X-Girlfriend (wannabe Scrubs ala TLC), After Tonight (My All part 2)
Butterfly - Beautiful Ones (sleep inducing, uninspired)
Daydream - Long Ago, Melt Away (love the bridge though)
Music Box - Just to Hold You Once Again (yawn)
Emotions - If It's Over (the SNL gig was so much better with the growls and live horns), To Be Around You
Mariah Carey - All in Your Mind (nice belts but corny)
(Friday 5 June 2015; 21:42)
Mariah at Walmart (54,237) by ADAM from USA
I actually loved the Walmart performance. I enjoyed that there was no diva banter and actual singing vs having the audience sing most of the song and/or notes. She sounded clear and confident. Despite the lipped belts in Infinity and ABMB everything was live. I really also liked the dress and makeup/hair she had on today. It was a good silhouette for her and colors looked wonderful on her. She didn't look like a cheap stripper nor someone who is wearing her younger sister's wardrobe. I hope she keeps this type of stride up.
(Friday 5 June 2015; 21:24)
Morgan's story on Daily Mail (54,130) by ADAM from USA
Why can't people realize when sources go to the tabloids or social media to air a grievance or concern about Mariah that's it's probably done as a last result because of all their attempts to reach out to her personally have been denied. I believe Morgan's account of what Mariah is going through. It was too specific and he's always been inside her entourage since the early days of her success. I always suspected she has a drinking problem at the least and suffers from depression. It's more than coincidence her "problems" arised when her voice started to fail her and her trickery started with lip syncing. Whatever the real reasons I feel scared about Mariah's well being. I think any and everyone whose every known or works with her needs to call her out. No more enabling her. No more lies and blowing smoke. I think one day soon if she doesn't take accountability for her action and get cleaned up well wake up to find out she is no longer with us. Overdoses are all too common and are the un intented consequences of bad behavior. If anyone has ever been a fan of Mariah please stop being blind to this ridiculousness. She needs truth tellers around her.
(Wednesday 3 June 2015; 22:10)
#1 to Infinity booklet scans (53,590) by ADAM from USA
Can someone please advise where I can find scans or comments from Mariah about each one of the song's history? Many thanks
(Wednesday 20 May 2015; 16:58)
JLo on Mariah BBMA performance (53,497) by ADAM from USA
Give me a break. JLo gave a respectful round of applause and smile when the camera was on her after MC's performance. There was nothing shady about her behavior. I saw the TMZ footage and what's wrong with scrollling through one's phone during an award show? There was no disrespect. Stop trolling for responses and just let these two women be. Why can't either one of these women attend the same event without fans from either camp pitting one against the other. In reality, they may hate each other however everyone is entitled to their own beliefs but as viewers and fans, why do we have to engage in sexist behaviors that do nothing but reinforce negative stereotypes about women in the industry.
(Tuesday 19 May 2015; 1:06)
Mariah in NY Times review (53,061) by ADAM from USA
I would like to update my previous comments about Infinity. I actually love this song in a way I haven't felt since WBT. I can't get the melody out of my head and really love all the lyrics. It really grew on me and I wanted to share my opinion about it with the forum as a result because sometimes I can be very critical of Mariah. Regarding Vegas, I love the way she sounds on most of the songs and am so excited to see her new costumes and set. My biggest favs are IDWC and LTT. I cringe really badly when I hear VOL and DL. I hope her voice polishes up nicely throughout the run of shows, however I will say I just read the NY Times review and it was harsh. The writer really went in on MC and basically revealed what we all already know - she lips her whistle notes and struggles very badly during all the others. Her even called out her methodical process of her pausing and covering her ear piece to then emit a clear loud whistle note. I'm really surprised that now the mainstream media is catching on to her concealed tricks us fans were only privy too. It's so obvious when she's doing it I'd be surprised if more people don't catch on and speak up as well. Anyhow, I love her Vegas show and am glad to see her perform this setlist even if parts of it are fake. She makes me so happy and I love her voice from the 90s until today all raspy and dry.
(Friday 8 May 2015; 2:16)
Infinity review (52,631) by ADAM from USA
I would rate this song a B+. I really hate how she continues to drown out her voice on her uptempo tracks to overcompensate for her dry thin raspy voice. It makes her sounds robotic. I would rather have her natural voice played over the melody. I also hate the fast lyrics that make no sense (especially the cringe worthy Fritos line). Horrible. I also wish there was a bridge in the song and moments where you can let the melody ride out. The high note at the end feels inorganic and takes out the momentum of the song. Everytime I listen to it I think the song has ended and then bam. Despite these critiques, I do like the song. I just wish it were more polished. On another note, I no longer believe fans should clamor for every release she does to reach #1. IMO she hasn't produced a single record after TEOM that was worthy of a #1 record or hit by her own standards. I think she continues to produce substandard records and has permanent damage to her voice which makes her on her best day sound hoarse and raspy. It was her full smooth golden voice which made her records #1. Those days as well as her voice are behind her.
(Thursday 30 April 2015; 22:17)
Reveal Mariah (51,613) by ADAM from USA
It looks like it's going to be the leaked Sony pic of her from her debut album era. It's a great photo which I love. I just feel like it was a cheap stunt to only reveal a album picture. Should have never been that long of a wait. Still lets wait and see.
(Sunday 12 April 2015; 16:15)
Cindi Berger, adios (51,479) by ADAM from USA
I think the fact that Cindi Berger her longtime publicist has dropped her as a client is very telling and not good. Cindi navigated MC's career from Glitter through Charmbraclet up until today. I am honestly very surprised by this. I think her severing ties shows that Marish not only doesn't care about her career anymore but also is fine with trimming another long lost confidant and friend. You can add her name right behind JD's to people Mariah continues to alienate. I think MC is so far gone in her own head that only she believes her own hype and her payroll of yes people from B. Scott to Rachel to Debbie Allen.
(Wednesday 8 April 2015; 13:43)
Response to Andrew (51,325) by ADAM from USA
Thanks for your post Andrew, I always looks forward to what you have to say about MC's recent events. I agree with you. With the Vegas gig coming up I thought she'd take steps to change the perception of what the public has of her as a has-been and someone whose lost their voice but to no avail. I'm not expecting her to be a size 0 or anything but the totality of her behavior has not changed to deter me from expecting the worst. I stand by my POV that she doesn't care anymore about her image, fans, nor success. I think her heart's not in it and it's been showing for many years. She's completely out of touch with reality and expects her followers to shell out $$$ for her in a month from now. I think she believes her own hype and self medicates with alcohol or food over the pain of her lost vocal abilities, not divorce. Everyone including her goes through heartbreak but I don't believe in this instance it's the root of her problems. She was like this before Nick. The part of all this that hurts me most is her using her fans. The only that still are here are here from her legacy days and when she was genuine. She uses those ties to cash in on our loyalty and I think it's wrong. She shouldn't perform shows lip syncing nor have a diva antic when in public. As a rule this kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated and she should be called out and reprimanded if she does it in Vegas.
(Thursday 2 April 2015; 22:17)
Obsessed with MC's debut album (non singles) (51,300) by ADAM from USA
This past week I have been obsessed with MC's debut album. Especially the no singles. I love her robust vocals over the 80s/90s dance beat undertones in Sent From Up Above, Prisoner, and All Alone In Love. MC is so underrated. I can't believe these tracks get no love. You feel every heart and soul behind every lyric and I just love her rapping over the beats in those songs. You know for many years I didn't recognize that it was her voice. I assumed it was a rapper uncredited. What diva out there in the game spits rhymes and belts big notes like MC does. Beyonce doesn't count as I consider her an entertainer not a notable vocalist. I just love these songs so much I wish she'd perform a concert with all the songs from her debut album. I would love to hear her commentary on each song and how her current voice sounds trying to adapt to these older songs. Does anyone else feel the love?
(Thursday 2 April 2015; 0:51)
Mariah should use social media to connect with fans (50,962) by ADAM from USA
I loved the recent pics of MC in West Hollywood. She is so more striking as a beauty when she's dressed modestly vs cheap looking fashions circa 90s. I also liked her speech before the HRC performance. It was really cute and sincere. I wish she would connect more with her fans directly during the making of her next album. It's been how many years since she answered fans questions online via video or Twitter? Remember when she did the Facebook event to promote TAOLG? I think since her career is down in the dumps that this would be the most pivotal time to re-connect with fans and create the buzz that's she's sincere again. It seems like the perfect solution for her to regain our trust while still protecting her voice. Using the web to communicate, pleases all parties involved. Maybe someone in her camp will remind her that she has loyal fans again that need her connection. Anyone agree or disagree?
(Monday 16 March 2015; 23:12)
Commentary on her HRC vocals (50,931) by ADAM from USA
Andrew I enjoy your posts. Don't be detracted. It was really nice to see Mariah perform Hero stripped down and mostly live. I've accepted that this choppy singing is the best her voice is going to get nowadays. My logic is that leading up to the HRC performance she hasn't had much going on therefore all that down time her voice would be in, the condition it's in now - is the good voice it's going to be in. And about her in the studio lately, we don't know how much she's actually singing vs writing or producing at the moment so I wouldn't rule that as the reason she's hoarse. I can't remember the last performance where her vocals weren't raspy and choppy. I think her instrument is just irrevocably damaged. Let's be honest here, MC knows how to train her voice and she's been MIA for a long time so she's clearly has a lot of time these last several years for rest and tea with honey, so if this is what she sounds like live during Rockefeller and HRC, this is what its going to be. She's never going to be candid enough to tell us what really happened with her voice so at this point all we can do is speculate amongst fans and either root or jeer whenever she decides to perform "live". I'll just say that I'm glad I don't have plans to see her in Vegas sounding like that.
(Monday 16 March 2015; 14:39)

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