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About Mara from United States: I'm a Mariah fan since the debut. Been through her entire career with her and may not always agree with every single thing she does, But i will always come to her defense when she gets attacked for being misunderstood. I am not a blind fan and relate Mariah to a sister who I would tell in a minute if something seems wrong or something of that nature. I come to this board to discuss her with people who I feel are true fans and yes, some don't always praise her to the heavens every single moment but we all are here for the same reason and we do adore her.

Shelly (47,262) by Mara from United States Shelly, I think you were the one that mentioned you looked at Mariah as almost an older sister at one point. I feel the exact same way and I do too, get very protective of MC like she is family. There are some really meanspirited things on Twitter right now and when I see them I feel very sad for Mariah. We know she goes on Twitter and there is a photo that someone posted and it's gone viral on Twitter and it's when she had more weight on. Now we know we have all been saying how fabulous MC has looked since she started her tour. That was the one thing I had to say was positive that she is not letting this mess get the best of her physically at least. I tried to post a recent pic of MC and say this was now. But if we all did that I would feel like we didn't let them drag her any more down on the mud. She looks good now, the least we can do is let those negative people know that. The comments and comparisons that are posting are beyond hurtful. Why do they feel the need to continuously try and hurt Mariah Carey? Why is it always her? This woman has been through enough, she has two beautiful children she is another to. I am tired of seeing these people, her weight, her voice, her mentality, her diva ways, her clothes. Mariah never can catch a break. Sorry for the tangent as MC would say, I have just had it. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 18:20)

Second night of show (47,257) by Mara from United States I believe this was the opening of the second show. I am not speculating about whether she is singing live or not, if it's lipped she still probably recorded these vocal in the studio for this tour so I think they are still recent vocals. What I did notice is how fierce she came on that stage. She had some life after those reviews and the way she flipped her hair and waved around her dress, you can tell she had it in her. MC is a professional and knows she still has a job to do. I love that look on her too. Very honey like. She knows what the people are saying and I give her credit for all she is doing. Whatever the reason she is touring, if it's a contract obligation or she felt she needed it with her personal life, whatever. She is up there for all of them to judge. Just yesterday the tabloids were showing pictures of her husband's basically erasing her name off his back and purposely going out without a shirt knowing the world will see. That has to hurt her. She is not a robot and is a human being and still has children with this man so unfortunately cannot totally cut him out of her life. This must not be easy. She needs her fan base to support her now, not bring her down. Constructive criticism is just that, constructive. Not hurtful and mean. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 16:19)

LC (47,236) by Mara from United States Can I just say thank you? Thank you for saying exactly what is on my mind everytime I read these boards. We are not wearing blinders, we know and have known what has been happening. That is all. But again, everything you said is everything I feel. So thank you. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 7:10)

Jazz (47,119) by Mara from United States Mariah please do a jazz album. I have said this in many posts here, that her voice is perfect for jazz. That performance of Billie Holiday was incredible. Jazz is just effortless to her, and suits her voice even now 25 years of singing. I think she needs to be given a little slack, she is going though a life changing public divorce. Her life is pulled through the media daily and she obviously feels she can do the tour and it probably is therapeutic to her at the same time. Can we just take a minute and say, she looks amazing right now. She has lost weight and you can see it in her arms and how her face looks. She is so beautiful. I can't believe how the minute she hits the stage and notes are off, the claws come out and the media and people are quick to crucify her. It could have been an off night. I agree that as she goes on she will sound better. Whoever mentioned the Tina Fey Amy P skit was brilliant. That would have been a nice highlight on the tour. (Sunday 5 October 2014; 4:49)

Tabloids (46,761) by Mara from United States Well the tabloids are at it again. Why does it seem every gossip story that is out there is favorable to Nick? They are all over MC and waitng for a breakdown. It is so hurtful to see. It seems like Nick is doing just fine. If he is not, why wear the statement clothing articles? From the "Saved" hat to the most recent jacket with "Freedom" printed across his back. How insensitive can you be? And no it's not for fashion or whatever he should be smart enough to know the media is watching and will make a lot out of the words "saved" and "freedom". Is he trying to hurt Mariah? It seems he only came out defending when "he" was being accused of cheating with a girl who literally has a photoshoot identical to MC's MIAM cover, outfit and even orange clouds and poses. If I recall he defended other people have lives, family and careers? Who does, this girl? He should have defended his wife before. Where is he now? Now that the gossip once again shifted just to MC. Mariah stay strong and you will get through this storm too. We love you. (Friday 12 September 2014; 19:01)

Nick / Thirsty (46,705) by Mara from United States Not to jump on the bandwagon of the Thirsty meaning, but I have to say from first listen Nick. Let's face it, Mariah was married and married women have many ups and downs with their spouse. She probably had many instances where she was very pissed at Nick throughout her marriage. What do you do when you are Mariah Carey? You write some damn good songs. This song was freshly written. Forget those other people that's names came up. It's about her husband. His working and always jetting off on her and the twins probably made her and still makes her feel pretty bitter at times. Look at the line, "you used to be mister all about we, now you're just thirsty for celebrity" all about we, meaning her and the kids perhaps? Then the boss and "G" reference. I recall a few times Nick compared his different outfits to "all gangster". Then the Tom Fords. As far as her kids not finding out their mom has a song about their Dad, well Mariah never has to "kiss and tell". She can always just take the secret with her. Music has always been MC's outlet and she said herself this album was what she has gone through the last 4 years, so. (Wednesday 10 September 2014; 6:28)

JayCarey / Reuben (46,614) by Mara from United States JayCarey, what a beautiful rendition of Languishing. Your voice is very good. You sound like you can do a lot with it and I can hear you on the radio today. Very smooth and yet strong. I hope MC hears it, she would be proud. Reuben, I agree with you on Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas. That and I'll Be Home For Christmas are the last two Christmas songs I would love to hear her voice to. Oh and The classic "The Christmas Song" she has such a rich tone that can go so low yet hit those notes. They would sound amazing. (Thursday 4 September 2014; 15:49)

GM / MC (46,541) by Mara from United States That would be me that said that. I think George is very similar to MC. I agree with you that Patience is like his version of TEOM. He tried to bring it back with Amazing and Flawless in similar ways Mariah did with ILT after the dark and somber yet incredibly amazing Older. There was so much pain in that album with life changes and acceptance very similar to Butterfly. Butterfly was full of emotions for MC after a dark time in her life. I wish they would come together just once, they would make such an incredible collaboration. If not, then I just wish MC would bring him on stage just once for a OMT duet. Or do something for Christmas, considering they are both known for writing two of the biggest original Christmas classics AIWFCIY and Last Christmas. Then I can die happy. Imagine MC doing something like Symphonica. I'm going to apologize now for rambling. (Monday 1 September 2014; 3:33)

By this_is_qhm / 90's (46,525) by Mara from United States You are not alone in missing the 90's. Today's "music" lacks something. There is something missing. It already started to go downhill or change in the 00's. All those albums you mentioned from GM's Older which is a great gem and Janet's TVR and not to mention all of Mariah's classics and remixes. Now it's all about which singles can top iTunes, get the best views on YouTube or Vevo. Music lost something. Mariah is one of the last to even try to bring that back. And with today being Music Box's anniversary and seeing all those MB era pictures, I am wishing Mariah would go back to that beautiful hair color. Just for the nostalgia. She is gorgeous any way she wears it, but I would just love to see her come out on tour with a "new fresh look". She is so beautiful, she might as well change it up. (Sunday 31 August 2014; 17:07)

Th First Noel / Born Is The King (46,497) by Mara from United States Ok so taking a break from all this other talk, I have been listening to MCIIY the past few nights. Yes, MC is the only artist that always seems to make me want to listen to Christmas music anytime. The First Noel is so beautiful, from the first few lines in the intro which leads to such a relaxing mood to the absolutely hypnotic Born Is The King. She is so beyond the word talented. It kills me how underrated she really is as someone else said. And then there is Christmas Time Is In The Air Again, how many artists now can create a song that sounds like it came out of the Nat King Cole eras of music? It is so beautiful and classy, especially the live version she did at the Tree Lighting. She looked and sounded amazing that night. I still would love to hear Mariah venture in a bit more to jazz. She has such a great voice for it. (Saturday 30 August 2014; 5:05)

I Still Believe (46,496) by Mara from United States One of my favorites as well. I like to say that I was a fan of Mariah's even before VOL since I used to hit record on my tape player every time Brenda K Starr's song came on the radio and sing over it with my "sound machine" lol then come to find it was our Mariah that was a backup singer on that song all along. (Saturday 30 August 2014; 4:51)

TMZ (46,374) by Mara from United States I have to say I think Mariah was trying to tell us something by her appearance out with her nephew Shawn. It was the first time I have seen Mariah really walking in the street like a normal person and dressed somewhat conservative. I think she wanted to show us and perhaps Nick that she is *not curled up somewhere in her apartment sulking over this. She is a strong woman. Also, her comment of I never comment, was a dig to Nick who always comments. It was classy of her. Of course there were people who still attacked her accusing her of thinking she was too good to comment. She was doing what any woman who wants to keep their private life private should do. However, I do think it was intentional and she knew she would be photographed and asked that question. Also, did anyone see her actually out with Roc and Roe in NY? She looked covered up again and looked good. She even had a crossbody purse on. Mariah with a purse? She looked very approachable and less diva like. She needs this time away on tour to remember who she is and get focused again. I hope she does do a show or two in the US though. (Tuesday 26 August 2014; 3:05)

Andrew (46,373) by Mara from United States I'm sorry. It's your opinion and everyone is entitled to one, but no way no how would I want Mariah to have one more era as a goodbye era. I have complete faith in MC and really believe she will come back stronger than ever. She will work on what needs to be worked on and show all the haters that always seem to pick her apart that she should never be counted out. This album was one of her best yet and I only look forward to what is to come. Who knows what other reason she had for not wanting to promote it. Maybe she knew what was to come with her marriage and didn't want to give half of what it brought in away. That's just me thinking out loud. But. No, I sincerely hope the other lambs don't want to see that. (Tuesday 26 August 2014; 2:59)

James Cannon (46,326) by Mara from United States How insensitive can you be? I saw the posts on FB before he took them down. He said some terrible things. Even if they were from his so called book, why choose the day your son confirms he is living apart from his famous wife to post them? I certainly hope Nick did not use his father to get some of his reasons out there since he may have a possible gag. They seem very shady, sorry. To quote Thirsty "the best thing that happened to your a** was me" seems ever so true. Mariah always called Nick the "abandoner" and if the rumors are true and he is using mental health now, why abandon your wife? What happened to better or worse, sickness and in health? If that's the case? Why do everything in your power to take on so many jobs, rather than be there for your wife? Especially of you are concerned for your kids. That does not sit well with me. Sounds like he is trying to be portrayed as the victim that could not take it anymore. Nick Cannon reminds me of a guy in high school that you regret fooling around with and then talks about you. He needs to grow the f*** up. (Sunday 24 August 2014; 2:15)

Mariah and Nick (46,250) by Mara from United States So a certain gossip site is having a field day with this news. It seems like they all forget there is a real family behind it all and that real people are hurting. Some of the comments are beyond awful and it just makes me think how much can one person take. I hope Mariah doesn't even look at them. I did notice since these rumors started blowing up in the last few days, Nick has been more active on twitter again. He did that challenge on the day news broke about his marriage. Don't want to read too much into it. Just hope Mariah is OK. I think the kids are her main focus now and yes she was 3 years old when her parents got divorced but circumstances were differnt then and Roc and Roe will have more stability than what Mariah probably experienced. They are all in my prayers. (Friday 22 August 2014; 18:01)

Sad day (46,213) by Mara from United States I am so saddened by this news. But I have to admit when I heard Thirsty I immediatly thought "Nick". All of MIAM was about her marriage and her emotions she was going through. Someone said we all feel like we know Mariah and I tend to get very protective of her. Mariah has been through a bad breakup before and it hurt her very bad. Now she has them beautiful babies and I think they will help her tremendously. You have to be strong for them and Mariah seems like she is a wonderful mother. She is a strong independent woman who will make it through this. Divorce is a form of a "loss" and I am so sad for her. I saw it through the Matt Lauer interview. She had a sadness about her. That is why the no album promotion. She released something probably painful to her and knowing what she was going through who can expect interviews and performances. Now she will be out of the country with her babies and focus on the tour. She will come back and be better than ever. MC we love you and are here for you. You have come to far from where you started from, you will get through this. (Friday 22 August 2014; 4:22)

Alex (46,172) by Mara from United States What you wrote is exactly what I was thinking. It is amazing how people have a living legend still making music and who has the history MC has and she is not appreciated. God forbid if something happened to our Mariah, all the people would find it "cool" again and sing her praises, including the "other people on the charts" currently that seem to throw insults her way. Appreciate her now. And yes, Mariah will continue being Mariah and doing what only she can do. I for one still love her. (Thursday 21 August 2014; 5:02)

Vines (44,684) by Mara from United States Has anyone else seen the recent vines and pics Mariah has been posting lately? I am really starting to worry about her and feel like something else is going on right now. Not talking about the subway and taxi ones in the blue ball gown, but she just posted another one last night in a black ball gown posing at night in the streets of NYC. She was singing to a friend and pulling her and she even looked a little uncomfortable with how MC was acting. Did anyone see these? I just don't get a good vibe from any of this. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 7:04)

Carlos (44,473) by Mara from United States Carlos you verbalized my thoughts exactly. I could not have said it better myself. When you use something for over 20 years, it gets wear and tear. Period. Everything on Mariah's album is her. That is all I really care about. I wish people would stop over analyzing this subject too. (Wednesday 4 June 2014; 5:09)

Album thoughts (44,249) by Mara from United States I have been listening to MIAM since it was available for first listen and downloaded both versions off iTunes. I have to say I think it is one of her best albums. I think this album is a vocal album. Sure her voice is a little weaker, but she has been using this voice for 25 years, of course it is not going to sound like when she was 19 years old on VOL or the Daydream album. But taking that into account, she still has the best voice out there. The way she layers her vocals, adds the whistle register and still hits those high notes, there is nobody out there that has that sound. I love reading all these posts and different opinions, and all the new faces on here. We are all here for one reason, our love for MC. I have to disagree when it was said there are no songs like Outside or Petals. Camouflage is right up there IMO of course. I think she poured her heart and soul into that song down to all the different layers and vocals. She put time into that song and boy does it show. The song is just beautiful and everytime I listen to it I get something new. It is so raw. It reminds me a bit of Butterfly. The ending is done beautifully. How many artists put that much time into one song with all the different vocals upon vocals? I think if all of us like at least 2 songs, she did her job. MC has such a mixed group of fans, as we all know everyone wants something different and she aimed to please all of us with this record. I don't care if it does not shoot to the top of the charts if it is an album that is a solid piece of work. And that it is. I really think her hard work, time and effort paid off and it really shows. And I gotta say my love for Meteorite grows everytime I play it too. Some think it's too Madonna or GaGa, but it's so different for Mariah and that's what I love about it. It's got this futuristic sound and it works. All in all I think it's a great album, whether it was a contract obligation or whatever. I can get by with new Mariah material and that makes me happy. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 7:38)

The journey part II (43,986) by Mara from United States I have to test some Lambs here, but wasn't this Fabolous song recorded very late and added last minute. I think there were some people that thought it had to be for his album since it was added so late. If my memory is right, it was right around the time VH1 aired the Fabulous Life of Mariah and Nick, and the song is titled Money. I could be overthinking here. Mariah is known for writing about what is going on in her life at the moment. Some of her best work has come out of that. After Money is One More Try. Maybe she is giving the marriage One More Try? She is an incredibly private person and keeps us fans guessing, but these songs are placed strategically by her. It truly tells a story and I listen to this album on a complete different level right now. But on a positive note, the album ends with Heavenly where she is singing how she has come to far to give up now. So I think since it was recorded early she added these songs to change the ending to the journey. I hope Nick does get the message. (Thursday 22 May 2014; 4:22)

The journey / Maurice (43,985) by Mara from United States You hit the nail on the head Maurice. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and as a day one lamb feel like Mariah is more like my sister and because of that I think the entire album is about her marriage with Nick. Even YDKWTD she has a line where you can't even help yourself from playing the fool each time. Something she has complained about Nick doing with his mouth quite a bit. As Mariah has said, this album is a journey and should be heard as a complete body of work. I feel that deep real emotion like I did with Butterfly in this album. She is wearing her heart on her sleeve in MIAM. Even as far as the album title. Some lambs felt Nick was in love with "Mariah Carey" his dream girl. The entertainer Mariah Carey. There is even a line in Camouflage where she says she prays someone loves her for her "please father" you can hear it and I feel it really strongly. I may be wrong but she clearly said this album is where she left off in her story. Said it was for the Lambily and she knows we know her well. Then right after Camouflage she goes right into Money and before money starts off she says "I can't leave it like that". (Thursday 22 May 2014; 4:21)

Stephen and Edward (43,963) by Mara from United States I have to agree on One More Try. I have been one that has been so excited when I saw the track listing with OMT on it. I am a huge GM fan and put him in the same category as MC in male form. I think what we all were envisioning was a soulful rendition. I think if the song was more stripped it would have sounded better. There is too much going on and for some reason her voice is really high in it. A deeper more soulful rendition is what I was wishing for. It's not bad and the album is still in her top 4 to me, but she almost sounds pretty while singing instead of the "pleading sound" GM portrays. I just wanted to feel more out of it. And I didn't think it needed that many vocals. I hope I don't get the hate from other lambs. I still love the album and don't think it takes anything away. Just was underwhelmed with it. Wouldn't it be nice if she performed it live maybe even bringing GM out and letting loose. One can dream. Sorry if it seems negative, I don't mean to. It's just that these are my two all time favorite artists and my dream to hear MC cover GM, and if non lambs can critique why can't real lambs? (Wednesday 21 May 2014; 18:35)

Worth the wait (43,924) by Mara from United States All I can say is "Thank you Mariah" for Cry, for Faded, Meteorite, and for Camouflage and so many more. But those are amazing songs. Camouflage is a signature song only Mariah can deliver. Amazing. I get chills listening to that song. Meteorite is unlike anything she has ever done and I am loving the sound of it. I am so proud of her right now. Faded has a sadness to it and I agree with Marquise that it's about Nick. Listen to the lyrics. I love how you can hear her love and adoration for her children in Supernatural, especially when she says "yes you are dahhhhling" that is a side as a longtime lamb I was not sure we would see. I love the album and hope it gets to number one and she deserves Grammys for this one. Those Katy Perry's and Rhianna cannot hold a candle to Miss Mariah Carey and she is reminding them all with this album. Steller. (Wednesday 21 May 2014; 2:52)

Today show (43,686) by Mara from United States I think she did great. Whatever people may say, TMB was all live. No lipping there. Most of ABMB was live, not sure about YDKWTD, but there is no doubt that song has hit potential. It is catchy and you can't get it out of your head after first listen. Has that rnb sound too like TEOM. Brian Michael Cox worked with her on that so he brought that same vibe. I thought the interview was great too. She had her diva moments but stayed on track with the album and how it was for "us". I really think she tried to please her fans on this one and give her diverse fan base what they wanted. I can't wait to hear the rest. I just wish it was closer to the release. A nice early surprise digital release would be a dream right now. On a side note would, I love to see M go a little darker again. Sorry MC I know you love your blonde. (Friday 16 May 2014; 16:23)

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