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Re: Butterfly's anniversary (63,280) (63,293)
by Billy from Greece
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Bill, I love Tori Amos and I thought the repackaging of the first two albums was excellent. I don't see Mariah doing something like that, though. Though it is indeed twenty years since "Butterfly" (as unfathomable as that may sound to me) it still is not the time, I think. Not to mention that some albums should not be touched with rereleases, or deluxe versions or anything. Maybe too purist of an approach, but sometimes I lean on this. What I long for is a good boxset someday, down the line. Diana, Barbra and Aretha released their career-spanning retrospectives around their thirtieth year in the business (in the early 90s). Again, I think Mariah is not very fond of things like that for some reason. As long as she wants to be active and current, I don't see anniversary editions coming our way.
(Monday 13 June 2016; 0:30)
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Re: Marian's state of mind (63,260) (63,270)
by Billy from Greece
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Why is there constantly so much concern about Mariah's state of mind? Why is there the perception that she is always in need of help or that she is not capable of taking care of herself or that she is out of control? Why is there so much pressure put on women in terms of how is acceptable behavior? Shouldn't we focus a little bit more on our own state of mind before judging another person as manic? That psychiatrist article is one of the most farfetched and exaggerated pieces I've read about Mariah.
(Sunday 12 June 2016; 11:05)
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Re: James Corden (63,188) / Randy / Mariah karaoke (63,211)
by Billy from Greece
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Randy, while I remember that I used to agree with several of your posts and opinions in the past, your constant nagging about Mariah in the past several months has really become grating. Not only this, but your continuous comparisons between Mariah and other divas who have obviously shown Mariah respect and love is also at this point misplaced. Mariah has never been the spontaneous singer who would just burst into blasting out big notes in contexts other than her concerts. She is constantly musical no doubt, from the way she talks to her phrasing and ingenious melodies on the spot, but she has also always been very "economical" of her instrument when it comes to singing on the spot. That's why it's very unlikely that you'll hear her belting or singing her heart out in a carpool karaoke the way Jennifer Hudson or Adele did, because her style and personality would never go along with that. Mariah has been literally way more elusive than that, which is both good and bad, but is also part of her allure. As much as you rightly hail those other great divas, despite her shortcomings and mistakes, make no doubt that Mariah belongs in the same pantheon. I understand that you want her to just go all out there and be a singer's singer in the old fashioned way and just perform uninhibitedly on the spot. But in your haze of comparing her to other greats, you really miss the point. Sure, I also have felt that Mariah has so much more potential both with her instrument and image than what she has delivered at times, but a closer look shows that the woman has really been unstoppable for 26 years. I also wish I knew what goes on in her throat but if Mariah feels like she doesn't want to belt out her songs in a car, then I trust her. Clearly, she has always struggled with stage/TV fright, even almost 30 years into the business, and yes, she may be unnecessarily insecure about her instrument. But you neglect to acknowledge the fact that oftentimes it also comes down to anatomy and not healthy or unhealthy habits. Patti Labelle was blessed with a huge and durable voice. Does that alone make her the greatest vocalist ever? Doubtful. Mariah is still a force to be reckoned. I've never seen another diva been so creative with her instrument. I'm also sure that there is a very specific mentality behind Mariah not "giving away" her voice in moments like the carpool karaoke (maybe something that Tommy coached her about back in the day?). As much as she can tour around TV shows and do interviews, at the same time she treats her singing as not something to be dispensed easily. Not to say that people should only pay to be granted that reward, but she just is not that type of performer. You saw how well she worked in a setting like the Jimmy Fallon fan surprise a couple of years ago. That's much closer to her idiosyncrasy. For goodness sake though, don't put her down any more. She is a phenomenal musician, who has issues with being loose on stage or on TV. Does that diminish her artistry or status? Hell no.
(Friday 10 June 2016; 13:30)
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"Around the World" vocals (63,208)
by Billy from Greece
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As Vevo has been uploading basically the whole Around The World dvd this past month, I noticed once more that it is probably the only commercially official recording of Mariah where the vocals are most likely not dubbed or polished in after production (like in the Proctor theater performance or 1995 MSG or Adventures Of Mimi). Of course I love that. She had a very specific sound on the Butterfly tour that's unlike anything she sounded before or after, and I'm happy that we have at least some clips that document what she really sounded like then. I love the "Dreamlover" performance a lot in particular.
(Friday 10 June 2016; 12:35)
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"Thank God I Found You" - Vegas (June 7) (63,183)
by Billy from Greece
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Mariah is really a legendary vocalist. Her enunciation, the clarity of her phrasing, the conscious manipulation of syllables while going through the scales recalls only legendary vocalists like Sarah Vaughan. I'm so happy for the way Mariah has developed her artistry, adding so much intricacy into her vocal delivery. Take a look here.
(Thursday 9 June 2016; 23:06)
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MC Vegas - third leg (63,141)
by Billy from Greece
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From the little snippets I've seen, she sounded and looked fabulous, but that "My All" sort of dress was a no-no. The first white dress was beautiful though, and so was the robe.
(Wednesday 8 June 2016; 12:42)
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"Memoirs" voice (63,138)
by Billy from Greece
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I've always felt that Mariah's voice on "Memoirs" was at its most "live-sounding", if this makes any sense. It sounds unprocessed and unfussy (in a good way), with the natural rasp and gut-wrenching resonance you hear when you see her live. I was always seduced by her sound on this album. I'm currently giving it a spin this rainy gloomy day, and boy does it sound good.
(Wednesday 8 June 2016; 11:24)
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"All I've Ever Wanted" (63,100)
by Billy from Greece
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This lady can sang. Great version.
(Tuesday 7 June 2016; 11:04)
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Mariah special 2009 (63,094)
by Billy from Greece
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Do you remember this? I think this is what the upcoming "docuseries" will look like.
(Tuesday 7 June 2016; 0:42)
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Walter interview about AIWFCIY (63,091)
by Billy from Greece
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I hadn't seen this one before.
(Monday 6 June 2016; 23:47)
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Diva term (63,050)
by Billy from Greece
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Can anyone remember a good interview where Mariah explains a little more the term diva? Apparently, I've seen so many interviews of her and diva is mentioned in almost every single one of them, but I can't find the one I'm after. I'mm looking for the one where she says that she heard the term ever since she was a child, with her mother using it t refer to a talented singer. They talked about it with Whitney on Oprah in 1998, but I don't this one for my purposes right now. If anyone can help, thank you in advance.
(Monday 6 June 2016; 0:33)
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Re: Queenlambassador (62,963) (62,976)
by Billy from Greece
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"I'm upset that some of you just want to see Mariah the fake so much." You hit the nail right there. What I've always enjoyed about post-"Butterfly" Mariah, especially, was that she did not care too much about being politically correct, or even when she did not care at all, as much idiosyncratic or incomprehensible as she may have come across because of that. In this sense, I too think that she handled just fine that whole "I don't know her" saga on WWHL. As much as I can see in Mariah a need to be accepted and belong somewhere, I also think she does not care about being all too likable. I mean, the woman is not stupid. If she wanted, she would still be "Mary Poppins". This debate brings to mind those people who ask for a song that is "universal" and "widely acceptable" without too many Mariahisms. They namely ask for a song with cliches, platitudes and something not distinct of her identity. Again, no thanks. Since at this point I've been listening to her post-"Butterfly" output much more than I do her early stuff, I admire so much more all the concepts, musical or image-wise, she has come up with since then. Even if you approach this in terms of album covers, you can see the difference (in a good way). It's similar to what's happening with Adele now: black and white photographs, "unthreatening", anyone can project their own interpretation onto them, they fit more contexts etc. I think Mariah has walked the Prince path. Remember how incomprehensible he came across in the 1990s and early 2000s? It all makes much more sense now, doesn't it?
(Friday 3 June 2016; 18:31)
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Jimmy Kimmel (62,961)
by Billy from Greece
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She was gorgeous. The dress was indeed fantastic. And yet again, MC won't shy away from disclosing something where you might not know: Jimmy, "Maybe I'm a sad clown on the inside." Mariah: "Well, we share that in common."
(Friday 3 June 2016; 11:22)
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Re: Mariah's hand (62,861) (62,868)
by Billy from Greece
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She also has a slight tremble in her fingers. 
(Tuesday 31 May 2016; 0:48)
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O.O.C. (62,681)
by Billy from Greece
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I'll echo only a couple of people here (lamb included): the messageboard has gone totally O.O.C. Bye.
(Thursday 26 May 2016; 0:19)
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Re: Rare studio photo (62,491) (62,493)
by Billy from Greece
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I think it's a voice message she left in her website in early 2001 once the deal with Sony was over.
(Saturday 21 May 2016; 23:06)
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Article: "Abused" Mariah Carey isn't fit for reality TV (62,452)
by Billy from Greece
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"She is very fragile, and she has been through a lot. She has been used, she has been abused. Some people don't have that Teflon sort of thing that I do, so she masks it with this coquettish thing that is hiding her nervousness and her pain and her own family's abuse to her", Daniels said. "She is misunderstood, because she is really, really ride or die. She really, really, really will do anything for you." Maybe this will prove enlightening to certain people, or not.
(Friday 20 May 2016; 19:00)
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WWHL entire show (62,430)
by Billy from Greece
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Here's the link.
(Friday 20 May 2016; 14:31)
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Magazine scans (62,412)
by Billy from Greece
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Now that Mariah Daily is defunct, does anybody have scans of some of the magazines that were featured in one of the websites section? I'm particularly interested in the Mirabella 1999 cover story. The article is available in Mariah Network as well, but I need the page numbers of the original magazine as well. Thank you in advance.
(Thursday 19 May 2016; 23:07)
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GLAAD (62,363)
by Billy from Greece
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Anyone has a link of the video tribute to Mariah they played after Lee Daniels's speech?
(Thursday 19 May 2016; 0:37)
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Watch What Happens Live (62,362)
by Billy from Greece
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Does anybody have a link for the entire show?
(Thursday 19 May 2016; 0:34)
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Current Mariah (62,333)
by Billy from Greece
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Mariah is giving me life lately (not that she ever stopped but you get the memo). I'm so happy to see her more carefree, having more fun on camera, just doing her thing, looking more comfortable with everything. Loved her on WWHL, and how she spinned on the chair at the Madonna question, yet gave respect where's due.
(Wednesday 18 May 2016; 10:19)
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Re: Current public opinion of MC (62,317) (62,327) (62,332)
by Billy from Greece
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I saw the clip last night. To quote my own comment that I left for that video (I know, whatever): Did the lady who quoted Mariah on her wedding being "the most important thing in the history of the world" care to contextualize her statement? No. Anyone with a tiny bit sense of humor can sense that Mariah was clearly joking when she was making that statement in the trailer. On the other hand, the lady panelist transfers this statement with such bewilderment and seriousness that has people thinking god knows what. That's why Mariah has adopted this over-the-top, almost unrealistic version of divahood. When she keeps being misquoted for years and years, why not play with this persona to the extremes? I personally totally understand that, even if I acknowledge at the same time the damage that that may have on her public perception. "What kind of a person do you have to be to believe that this is the most important thing to ever happen in the history of the world?", the lady asks with great mystification. Well, I'd say, a person who actually is smart enough to use sarcasm and irony in the face of an obviously licentious celebrity culture, who though part of it, still manages to rise above. These people...?
(Wednesday 18 May 2016; 10:04)
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Charmbracelet era (62,258)
by Billy from Greece
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I remember this this news report. She looked so glamorous here. I'm so glad she kept going strong back in 2002/2003, being creative, musically or otherwise, despite constant bashing. It was also during those years that she established for good her cult following and became legendary. In all diva narratives, it is the pitfalls that make the divas larger than life.
(Monday 16 May 2016; 21:05)
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The trailer (62,257)
by Billy from Greece
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It's here, it looks excellent.
(Monday 16 May 2016; 20:47)
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